Where would we be without dirt–well gosh we wouldn’t be. Mud is matrix of life, it grows our food, it can build our homes. Man and microbes share paragraphs of the same DNA..ashes to ashes, dust to dust, we are dirt.
Creation myths from around the world have Man being made from the earth. Adam means dirt or clay. The ground is what you experience when you drink wine, and a glass of water is really dinosaur poo.
My grandma used to say that to be healthy you need to eat a peck of dirt before you die, but now we are destroying the nutrients in the ground, polluting it and stripping it away by over paving, industrialized monocultures crops, over using nitrogenated fertilizers, strip mining, logging, wars…Oh Mother Earth, what have we done to your rich skin? One third of world’s top soil has disappeared and with that deserts grow and algae blooms. And its place 100 million trees are turned in 20 billion mail order catalogs.
When humans arrived 2 million years ago, everything changed for dirt. And from that moment on, the fate of dirt and humans has been intimately linked.
And as the soil disappears, life disappeared. In India over the last decade over 200,000 farmers have killed themselves–many by drinking the pesticide they can no longer afford to buy in order to grow the industrialized crops required by the marketplace.
Dirt! The Movie makes the strong point that there is a clear link between human degradation and environmental degradation. Floods, drought, climate change and war are related to how we treat dirt. Lack of arable land is at the root of conflicts in the Sudan and foot riots in Haiti, the roots of starving children in our inner cities and in refugee camps.
We need to build an agriculture as sustainable as the ecosystems we have destroyed. But how? If all of Ethiopia turned to sustainable, biodiverse agriculture, the nation could feed the entire African continent. In area of the United States farmers are working towards that goal as well. Community gardens, planting native plants in our gardens, “green roof” gardens on top of urban buildings, composting: All of these can help our dirt.
Dirt gives kids hope as they grow gardens and plant trees; working in gardens helps prisoners find rehabilitation. Dirt heals our souls, nourishes our bodies. Support dirt. Get dirty in the dirt!



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Welcome…I loved Dirt! Microbes are hot. And they make electricity
Hi Lisa,
Great post. Makes me want to see the film. And I made it! along with my co dirt lovers…. delighted to be dishing the (real) dirt on FDL!
Gene Rosow
It’s soil! –mercy! my dirt teacher would have a fit if he saw this title
What an important movie to make. I hope it gets widely circulated, we take it for granted at our peril
Overall people don’t really seem to appreciate dirt, the soil, until it’s gone, as we learned in the Dust Bowl and as we see now with expanding deserts. I work hard to improve my weird California clay with coffee grounds and earthworm casings and I don’t rake around my plants preferring them to mulch themselves
Welcome to the Lake.
What inspired you to take on this worthy topic?
You can buy the DVD at http://www.dirtthemovie.org/pages/all-about-dirt and you can look for–or arrange–a screning in your area.
Hey Elliott… we chose the title for a few reasons. Film is inspired by the great book: Dirt: The Ecstatic Skin of the Earth by William Bryant Logan. We stuck with dirt rather than soil to be provocative and wake people up to how important it is… and fun and really amazing.. some soil scientists have had that reaction but most see that our efforts are aimed at making those who really know about the soil.. the dirt.. the ground beneath our feet — heroes of knowledge…
And Gene have you eaten dirt? Hatian mud cakes?
very effective!
Great to be here… coffee grounds, earthworm casings and mulch. Music to dirt’s ears… or microbes… we were inspired by the book mentioned above and also in realizing that dirt is the ultimate natural resource…
Fire Dirt Lake!
Welcome Gene.
Haven’t eaten Haitian mud cakes.. but as a kid I ate a lot of dirt playing around… and since then I’ve tasted it in my community garden plot… the Haitian dirt cakes raise a whole issue of how a real recovery in Haiti has to take into consideration soil issues… more of which in an upcoming blog at http://www.dirtthemovie.org (next week)
Earlier today, KarenM said her father called rocks young dirt
He’s right… maybe rocks dream of becoming dirt… cause dirt is alive…
I kinda want to adobe-fy my clapboard house after watching the natural home builders.
Former farm/ranch kid here.
I love dirt. I worry about dirt. It’s fun to play with dirt. Yep – I’m dirty!
So glad to see this here on FDL!
Me too.. there’s a whole world of very cool natural building techniques which will offer green (make that dirt!) jobs and sustainable buildings.. the natural home builders are some of my faves in the film because it points out that dirt is not just about food..
Let’s hear it for farm/ranch kids… you guys are the one’s that will help figure out how we’re going to survive
A friend’s stepdad did adobe building for the family home and his art studio in New Mexico, it was awesome. For me here LA, I have native plants and just let things happen, right now fennel is growing out of my lawn..and one day both lawns will go away and be replaced by native grasses.
It utterly bmmed me out ot learn that 100 million trees die annually to make those damn mail order catalogs. thats what the Internets are for! Shop on line, save atree!
We hope that people will walk out their front doors and see what’s growing.. check out the condition of their dirt.. and begin to feel and think that it’s alive…
Also how soon will those fuel cells be available that run on dirt..and Gene, canyou explain those for our our guests who haven’t seen the movie?
What’s amazing to me is how quickly earth changes; better and worse, depending on conditions.
My partner and I have been rehabilitating this very clayish soil (Denver, creek channel drain pan) and the results are amazing.
My neighbors have this hard pan soil. In my garden areas, we have fabulous black loamy soil. I can take out our tiki torches (Yes, I love those, and dammit Chris won’t let me have Pink Flamingoes, but that’s another story) in spring, and merely by hand push them easily about 10 inches deep. This is not the case for the neighbors and they just don’t get it.
You Must Play With Your Dirt – and Feed It Well.
How does the movie start out?
How technical do you get?
And also plant a few trees while we’re at it… there are tree planting groups across the country.. feels really good… eg. check out:
http://www/treepeople.org -
Dirt! is super playful and fun and cool–it’s kid friendly and adult smart.
What is the projection of soil loss in the US for the next decade, if we lost 1/3 in the last century?
my township actively promotes composting,
the soil where I live now is to clayey and the drainage is relatively poor so it was pulled from farming.
The house I grew up in had a wonderful duffield loam, I loved that dirt.
Sounds like a valentine to dirt! play with it and feed it. Dirt could not be happier and you know what you’re doing..
The film starts out with the idea that earth is the only KNOWN planet that has living breathing dirt… and humans. We have some technical experts sharing knowledge but we’re trying to reach out to the widest possible audience so we also include humor, politics, joy, and music… not to mention wonder. The film is not the Nova version of soil science.. tho that would be cool too!
There are so many benefits. We are the Robin Capitol of the neighborhood because HELLO there’s tons of earthworms.
In any of the dirt cultvated areas, I can ram my hand in the ground and in a handful of dirt get at least 3 earthworms.
The birds keep the insects down so my pepper and herb yield is better than the other neighbors. Since the soil is healthier, we actually water LESS than others. Much less. On and on and on…
I love dirt!
I appreciated that you go into international issues, and farming/rehabilitating in different temperate zones. Biodiversity is important.
One problem we have in California is marijuana farming. Unscrupulous growers go in public land and hide the farms after clearing out native growth, then dump heaps of nitrogen fertilizer into the crops, there’s run off..
Good question… we’ve heard various estimates but all agree that it is accelerating in very scary ways… through agriculture systems that are killing the soil, paving over dirt in cities… mowing down trees.. and blasting and removing soil to get to energy resources in a really primitive way… we will have to evolve on all those fronts… or not..
one more reason to revisit drug laws
The link between our health and the soil – studies that show that kids now are too clean, do not get “dirty” – have allergies and conditions because they never interacted with the environment.
I’ll cease rhapsodizing – just happy to see this tpoic and I bet I can get my partner to see this movie with me. Chris is an artist in dirt!
Question for you Gene – what was the most unusual, interesting or intriguing feature from a cultural or technical perspective you found among other humans when you were making this film?
We are topsoil
We are dirt clods
If it weren’t for us there wouldn’t be a garden
oh definitely, too clean is unnatural.
True.. and the studies are proliferating.. soil/food/health/water… it’s all inter connected and once we alter the balance the effects pop up in all kins of weird ways. Mowing down rainforests in addition to all other problems is also a matter of destroying the most amazing lab on earth where medicines and the real biotechnology is being worked out.
Politically, who are our friends? Who can we look to in Congress for support? Organizations?
Making this film has been and still is a total brain dump… every one we interviewed or subject was eye opening in some way… and really encouraging.. whether inmates in Rikers Island who were in the Green house program learning skills that rehabilitate urban environments as well as themselves… or researchers literally harvesting energy from microbes in the soil… to people re inventing agriculture… and audiences are having strong reactions to them as well…
How can we get schools to teach about how important the soil is? Do you have a teaching package? Is the film shown in schools?
And how cna we encourage schools to ccreate more green spaces/vegetable gardens, etc?
How long does it take for a playground that’s be de-asphalted to be rehabilitated enough to grow veggies?
Tell us about your Partners listed on your website? (http://www.dirtthemovie.org/pages/our-partners) How can we support you and them?
And I love Tree people..they are LA-based and goodness knows we need trees here
Side note, after the Griffith Park fire there was actually debate about whether or not the city shold plant native flora! As opposed ot say impatiens and pansies?
For us the film is important as part of a wider educational and public engagement campaign to raise soil awareness, and urge soil protection, and educate policy makers… we are working in partnership with a number of organizations to do so..
If people sign up at our website we will keep you posted about upcoming legislation and actions to help dirt!
Here are some links to get started with:
http://www.dirtthemovie.org/ that’s us.
http://www/organicconsumers.org always a good source re food and soil
*http://www.nrdc.org a number of campaigns re soil issues.
http://www.ran.org very active in mountain top removal and rainforest protection.
http://www.nrcs.usda.gov this is the 75th anniversary of the Natural REsources Conservation Service which started out in the Dust Bowl as the Soil Conservation Service.
There is a soil caucus in the House.. but education about campaigns needs to be focused in the most effective way.. stay tuned. Farm bills promoting organics, green jobs in cities, real farm aid designed to help family farmers stay on the land, urban reforestry and ag.. these will be happening and local, state, and national levels. Stay tuned…
Kelly–on the Dirt! website there’sa section caled “Tell us your stories about Dirt!” You and your partner should def contribute!
And Gene RE: Tell Us Your Stories About DIRT! What type of responses have you gotten? Written? Video?
Edible schoolyard programs are fantastic and spreading across the country. If you are interested in participating in an outreach project using the film, related educational materials, and an active program to help the growing network of these projects please let us know.. at the website.. We will soon post educational links in the All about Dirt page. (later this week in fact)
We’ve received mostly written stories. As we grow the site we expect and welcome more video and pix too. We are in the planning stage of a nationwide soil testing (is your dirt alive and breathing!?) and mapping project which will help link people with dirt stories to tell and share. We’re expecting this to build as we get closer to our PBS Earth Day Special nationwide broadcast on April 20… which we would love to see declared Dirt Day across the country by proclamation.
how long did it take to film? And how many countires did you go to? I counted three plus the US..?
And please fill in our readers about the situation in India, wiht the suicides of 200,000 farmers in the past decade.
Will the PBS special be the movie and/or more/different?
Those suicides aren’t limited to India; they’re happening here in the US too, but since we’ve chased so many family farms away, the volume is not as appreciable.
I know specifically, and painfully, of a farmer up near Sundance WY, who took his life since the farm was in foreclosure in November of last year.
His family, like mine, had been farming/ranching there since 1858.
And how did Jamie Lee Curtis get involved? (side note we went ot the same high school)
tragic
How can anyone host a screening? And what new projects are you working on now?
And gene, tell us about YOUR dirt…
Sorry, I just have to say a few more things about MY dirt.
It’s funny that when you feed your dirt, it will hack up some most interesting things it’s held back.
My house was built in 1915, and since we’ve been working on the dirt (1999) it has hacked up some crazy things from that time. I have pennies from 1909 to 1915, an old hammer, some most excellent marbles, and horse-shoe nails.
Dirt has personality!
The film has taken 6 years to make. But that’s just a start. As film makers (actually film is like yesterday — multi/mixed eco media people — considering we’re out on DVD, in cinemas, broadcast, soon to be streaming.. involved in web chats (yea) and other media.. we’re still going at it. In a globalized world which seems to be shrinking we had to try to be as complete as possible. Having said that we only hit 5 continents on the road… and there are so many stories that we wanted to tell that just didn’t have resources to include — China, Japan, etc. etc.
The situation of farmer suicides in India is one that is global in scale. You may recall the Korean farmer who committed suicide in Cancun in protest.. Basically farmers cannot compete in a globalized economy based on the current industrial model of agriculture. They grow food for a market that is really a big casino in which finance shifts so quickly they wind up unable to survive. The pain and shame of being unable to support families and keep land that is the only way of life they know leads to desperation. In Brazil that desperation has lead to farmers seizing land (Landless Workers Movement) that is owned by absentee landlords who do nothing with the land. At first they start to farm using the industrial model but quickly discover that doesn’t work and wind up growing food in a local, organic system that is sustainable. Cubans have done the same thing in a remarkable story. And it’s not a question of left or right. The Cubans had practiced the same sort of industrial agriculture developed by the Communist system in the USSR as that of the capitalist system. Time for new thinking all around. And in India that’s what Earth Democracy as articulated by Vandnaa Shiva offers. Local, organic, biodiverse agriculture. Sorry for the longish answer.. you got me started.. the dark irony of farmers drinking the pesticide they can no longer afford that you mentioned is upsetting.
The PBS special will be a 53:30 min version of the film that is 79 mins
True enough. The tragedy of American family farms is a story told in several excellent films… and needs to be widely known.
To host a screening please go to the website for details.
http://www.dirtthemovie.org
and go to host a screening. We invite people to use the film and to organize around their local and particular issues as well. We provide the tools to hold successful screenings and they are picking up steam.
Come work on my dumps. That’s what they did on farms. I have a big one and a couple of small ones that I know about. The big one is at one of the prettiest spots on the property, a steep bank leading down to a stream. Easiest place to just throw it over the edge. Got stoves, washers, bed springs, lotsa lotsa barbed wire (I’ve cleaned up the rest of the barbed wire that was all over the property), and cans, jars, bottles, dishes, pots, pans. You get the picture.
My house was built in 1817 but I’ve never found anything interesting in the dirt around the house. Only pottery shards and oyster shells.
Gene–your dirt! what do you dowiht it?
We have a tiny yard at home. My wife is a garden designer and every inch is blooming.. different experiments… pushing native species. I also have a community garden plot two blocks from the office. Was there today testing, compost pulling off the lower leaves of brussel sprouts, and thinning out winter spinach and arugula. Picked some snow peas and got back here in time for the chat. When I got my plot it was clay and suffocating… I tested… it needed everything… I started digging… found some cool stuff.. ancient pipes.. I laid out beds, double dug, and added amendments. Organic compost. Started planting… kept amending. Here come the worms.. I tasted it.. mmmm. and the winter veggies are looking good. Definitely getting richer, and the worm and critter count going up… Feels really good to dig after typing..
Okay, I am going go dump coffee grounds and deleted tea leaves..and hope you al do the same!
Gene thank you so much. Mother earth thank you and firepups-thanks for getitng dirty with us!
Looks like we’re comin to the end of the chat time… Just want to say thanks a bunch… almost as much fun talking about dirt as working in it and filming!
See you dirty people later!
Gene
Thanks Gene, very much; and as always, thanks Lisa!
Thanks Lisa! Stay dirty yourself..
Oooh, junk is tough. Dirt just can’t seem to eat metal things and so forth, regardless of how good it is at eating so many other things.
Considering your dump appears to drain to a creek, I wonder if you might want to consider planting some bamboo?
I am thinking about it; contemplating a “contained” area so it won’t spread. (For bamboo, you have to make a retaining wall of some type, I’m thinking sheet metal guards, down to about 3 feet so the bamboo won’t “run” and become invasive.)
Then you cut and chipper the bamboo, and spread it between the dump and the creek. Phylostacchus is the genus. You might consider species aureaulscata (sp?) or Bissetti or Nuda for your Zone.