Oh, dear! Message to the lady with the I don’t want to press one for English:
Put down the donut, press one now, and no one gets hurts.
Good grief, I’m sorry to be mean about it, but that vision is ripe for snark.

Press “12″ for a dozen donuts.

There was someone waving one of those signs around here. I suggested to him that he should therefore learn Spanish and press ocho.

Boxturtle (The suggestion was not well received)

Ha, ha.
There are so many important issues to deal with. Maybe she’s just mad that the pretty girl of color edged her out of her pole dancing job.

I’ll just bet.
(shaking my head)
And, what’s worse is knowing that some of them actually are raising children. Know what I mean?

Two-thirds of those identifying themselves as “strong Republicans” in the poll voice approval for the tea bag activists, versus only one third of those less intense in their loyalty to the GOP.

Overall, 35 percent of those surveyed expressed favorable views of the tea party movement,

and 40 percent saw it unfavorably. About 25 percent expressed no opinion.

http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/archives/194193.asp?from=blog_last3

My bold

The percentage of Americans holding a favorable view of former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has dipped to 37 percent, “a new low,” in the latest national ABC News/Washington Post opinion survey.

My bold Sarah’s numbers seemed to have dropped after she spoke at a Tea Party.

I was thinking that this might be the Coalition of the Chubs against the Skinny President.

I apologize for seeing this.

How ya doing, Things? Just letting you know I saw your ps the other night.
We’re good.

I know what you mean. And, it does feel bad to see that, and they can look however they want, but it’s like the people who live in glass house, isn’t it?

What about the tens of millions who showed up to receive the wisdom of Alaska Governor Palin in Nashville, huh? Ross Perot and John Anderson are green with envy.

(no enviro-yism intended)

In hypothetical head-to-head matchups, President Obama tops each of the Republican candidates tested.

By 47 percent to 35 percent Obama bests former Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney. The president has an even wider edge over former Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin (55 percent to 31 percent), and former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich (53 percent to 29 percent).

Finally, twice as many people say they would vote for Obama (48 percent) as would back a candidate from the Tea Party movement (23 percent).

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/01/21/fox-news-poll-voters-split-congressional-elections/

Mitt can beat Sarah against Obama 35% to Sarah’s 31% I’m not buying it. Outside of political junkies like us just who has heard from Mitt at all?
And even among us political junkies just what has Mitt done since the Presidential Primary?

BT

WIth the GOP defending 18 open seats and the Dems defnding only 14 open seats–it would seemthere would me no time, money or attention left for targetting incumbents?

32 open seats, I wonder if that is some kind of record?

If the Dems are in disarray, the GOP is in crisis. Wonder if tthe MSM will bother to report how much worse off the gOP is, in the mind of the American voter?

Cool Trying to sell the condo nobody’s suppose to come before 11 and I just got a surprise early visitor. $##^^ place could have looked cleaner:(

Very possible.

How does he do against Petreaus?

In my opinion, that’s one of the hardest parts of selling. Best of luck.
Maybe you need to put a sign on the door: Knock once if you expect a sparking clean place. Knock twice if you’re realistic.

not filling the NLRB vacancy is a total chickenshit response to what the goopers did.

OB should issue a statement:

“We have majority approval in the US Senate, accordingly I am appointing Craig Becker to be chairman of the NLRB.”

Normal programming may resume.

As if!
(I’m from the Valley, doncha know?)

18 seats open but how many GOP seats have primary challenges from tea baggers eating up potential GOP cash for the campaign.
Still corporations can now give all they want. Can money buy an election for the probusiness part with 10% unemployment?

Obama would have to retain the vast majority of States he won – being kinda liked by a larger percentage of people is not enough.

No mention of him in the poll I guess he’s not Fox approved for some reason.

Taking off now to look for a nice red dress to wear to a Sweethearts Dinner Dance tonight. Unless the birther in the photo would consider lending me that shirt.

Lots of speculation that Petreaus want to be prez, but don’t know if he’ll run in 2012.

The Likely voters problem our side is not enthused. The Fox poll could have mentioned and separated likely and non likely voters… except then Sarah and not Mitt would have one big in the poll.
Say what you want about the Tea Baggers they will show up to vote. Fox fixed this poll for Mitt!

I can’t see this as really good news. Saying that Obama is popular compared to Republicans is like saying that eating dogfood is more popular than eating out of the latrine.

Given the stark choice, people will choose the reasonably intelligent, corporatist Democrat over the wingnut Republican. But choosing the Democrat is nonetheless not going to solve the nation’s problems, which is all I care about.

Even from a narrowly political point of view, the Democratic Party does not endear itself to the voters by giving the people this kind of choice. As soon as the Republicans field a reasonably intelligent corporatist Republican, the Party loses. And in the interim, it suppresses the Democratic and independent vote so thoroughly that the wingnut vote counts for more than it should and makes the races seem closer than they really are.

Every day that our Party continues with candidates like Messrs. Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Mark Udall, and the various Blue Dogs is a lost opportunity to do the necessary for the country and cement the future of the Party.

He might want the job but running on losing two wars that puts him at an even level with Sarah’s speaking skills and Mitt’s business success.

I don’t think you guys need to worry about Palin, Patreaus, or any of the other conservatives that are coming out of the wood-work in force to run against democrats. Don’t even bother showing up to vote in 2010. Some interesting reading:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/the_president_reality_problem_WMuCZTkNKv10LAtLG9DLqK
http://www.journal-news.net/page/content.detail/id/531726.html?nav=5003
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&sid=a4hIeftRVyvE

But the U.S. won the war in Iraq. Spencer said so yesterday.

Nobody said it was good news however we need to stop the Dems from caving in to the GOP because of the lie about the GOP’s political popularity.
We need to strip away this meme bipartisanship is the will of the voters thing.
10% unemployment and Obama beats the GOPers why not because of anything Obama has passed yet.
Nope its because the majority hates the GOP’s ideas.

We can point fingers all we want, but the fact still remains that the Democrats, (with the WH, the House and the Senate) don’t have the unity and the spine to push through the bullet point campaign promises we voted for. These teabag lunatics have taken to the streets for whatever perceived complaints they have and we as progressives should be putting the same kind of pressure on the weak or turncoat DEMs that have let us down too. If you loose big in November, it is just as much our fault as the DEMs in office that aren’t representing our will. How often have you called and written your reps?

Her numbers drop nationally every time she opens her pie hole.

*G*

Unless the birther in the photo would consider lending me that shirt

A bold fashion statement for your dance.

Declare victory and go home yes I read that. And I admitted the General has the same level of weakness as Sarah and Mitt however really what are his strength’s Mitt has money and Sarah has the tea baggers.
Petreaus looks good if Iran invades Iraq provided we don’t blame him for attacking Iraq in the first place or if Ossama attacks America again provided nobody wonders why the General invaded Iraq instead of Pakistan.
Yes the Media will try their best to push him but this is a lot of failure for voters to ignore.

And who does the party brass put up for the Veep?

As soon as the Republicans field a reasonably intelligent corporatist Republican, the Party loses.

And does Petreaus fit that bill? I can see that, and with a Veep candidate who appeals to “the base”…well…maybe…

As for fixing the country? Only a tiny handful of people in DC appear to be serious about the task. The rest of them? Not worth…(expunged to save the Mod some work)…

You’ll have to ask him. I’m too far down the chain of command to know. *g*

She’d better rake that dough while she can. Ailes might begin to think she’s too stupid even for Fox…well, maybe not “Fox and Friends,” but definitely for “Prime Time.” On the other hand, she does have her TelePalmters. Two of them.

Maybe talking to the Tea Baggers a group even more unpopular than she is dragged down her numbers? Reagan was all about stealth racism and lies with no fact checking.
Birther, Secret Muslim, Socialist etc all these lies remind me of Caddy Driving Chicago Welfare Queen eating steak the Press never checked the welfare queen story.
The press reports crazy Obama rumors but never debunks them until later if at all. Glen Beck I don’t think has retracted a single crazy rumor since the campaign.

You can’t be a Reagan with the Net fact checking you. Reagan’s Welfare queen story

Macaca controversy

On August 11, 2006, at a campaign stop in Breaks, Virginia, near the Kentucky border, Allen twice used the word macaca to refer to S.R. Sidarth, an Indian-American, who was filming the event as a “tracker” for the opposing Webb campaign. Macaca is generally used in francophone African nations, which led to speculation that Allen may have heard the epithet from his mother,[40] a Francophone who grew up in French-colonial Tunisia. Allen apologized and later said that he did not know the meaning of the word.[41] In 2008, The Washington Post speculated that, were it not for this single utterance, Allen would have been a strong candidate for the 2008 GOP presidential nomination.[42]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Allen_(U.S._politician)#Macaca_controversy

Political controversy ensued following remarks Lott made on December 5, 2002 at the 100th birthday party of Sen. Strom Thurmond of South Carolina. Thurmond ran for President of the United States in 1948 on the Dixiecrat (or States’ Rights) ticket. Lott said: “When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we voted for him. We’re proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn’t have had all these problems over the years, either.”[3]

Lott resigned as Senate Republican Leader on December 20, 2002. Bill Frist of Tennessee was later elected to the leadership position. In the book Free Culture, Lawrence Lessig argues that Lott’s resignation would not have occurred had it not been for the effect of Internet blogs. He says that though the story “disappear[ed] from the mainstream press within forty-eight hours”, “bloggers kept researching the story” until, “[f]inally, the story broke back into the mainstream press.” [7]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trent_Lott#Resignation

My Bold If the GOP can’t lie without getting fact checked if they can’t appeal to racism with the blogs forcing the Media to cover the story the GOP is left with their ideas/s and Corporate money to win elections.
November should be very interesting.

BT at the Seattle Town Halls I recall several Tea Baggers saying Read the Bill however there was no bill at the time. I assumed they like us thought there would be a Public Option. They thought it cost to much but never said a word about war spending.
I think Glen imagined he saw the bill. It would be nice if Fox didn’t make up the news.

She dragged down her numbers with one hand !

Meanwhile — A Republican lawmaker has discovered the sinister plot behind the push for Gay Marriage.

Corporations can give unlimited amounts to political campaigns. Fox News however was doing that before the Supreme Court ruling.
However NewsCorp’s second biggest shareholder is from the same country that gave us Ossama

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Waleed_bin_Talal

I’m thinking foreigners should not have any access to our media as well as our politics.

A good article by Paul Blumenthal in HP on how Obama has lost all credibility because of his back room deals.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/

READ THE BILL!!1!1!

Meanwhile, none of those bozos had.

I still suspect the Democrats will suffer major losses in November but I was willing to suspend my disbelief until the final line in this post.

Yessiree. They got them libs right where they want ‘em.

Sorry BT, you can’t use “libs” as a synonym for Democrats and expect to retain any credibility.

I’d agree if I thought that the lie about Republican popularity was what was driving Democratic Party behavior. Corporate donations and opportunities for personal wealth are what drives this.

Your assumption is that the Democratic establishment adopts Republican-style corporatist policies because the members of said establishment are afraid of losing their positions to Republican candidates with popular Republican ideals. Nothing is further from the truth. The Democratic Party now has the bulk of the corporate financial backing that once went to the Republicans, backing that our Party now views as the crucial factor in winning elections. They are confident of winning hands down against Palin and the other political pygmies.

This confidence is WHY these Democrats act like Republicans. So as long as Democratic apparatchniks like our President feel that they can get re-elected, they will act more not less corporatist and more not less Republican.

Lying about Republican popularity does Republicans no good–after all, such lies are always exposed on election day. The lie is, rather, of value to the Democratic establishment. THEY profit by playing up the strength of their opponents to the extent that we believe the lie and turn out to vote against the alleged lesser of two evils.

But the real lie is not the strength of the current rump Republican Party. The lie is the claim that there is a real lesser of two evils. The corporatist Democratic Party is the Grand Old Party that gave us the Bushes, Reagan, and Nixon. It has sloughed off its back-woods-Barby and Bible-thumping fringe and left it with the Republican name. It has abandoned some of worn-out politicians it used to use. But the Grand Old Party is alive and well under its new name.

What our Democratic establishment fears andis prepared to lie for is us, the Democratic base. We are the threat, not the Republicans. So our task is to be worthy of that fear and oppose the corporate takeover.

I missed the time out.

My last line should add that what the Party actually fears is us, the base, not the Republicans. With the Republicans coopted or turned into a joke, the only threat to corporate dominance comes from within the Party. So we need to ignore the Republican boogey man that is being waved at us and go after the real threat. We need to retake the Democratic Party for the people or destroy it in the attempt.

Lies, Damned Lies, & Poll Numbers, from CBS News:

The Tea Party Movement and Americans Overall

A majority of Americans still say they do not know much about the Tea Party movement; 55 percent say they have heard not much or nothing about it.

Even among those Americans who say they have heard about the Tea Party, four in 10 still admit they know little or nothing about what it stands for.

The Tea Party movement gets mixed reviews from those who have at least heard of it, but 55 percent are still unsure about it. Forty-two percent of Republicans who’ve heard about it have favorable views of the Tea Party movement, but 56 percent are still unsure.

Among those who’ve heard of the Tea Party movement, only a third thinks it reflects the views of most Americans while 42 percent say it does not.

Overall, 18 percent of Americans considers themselves a “member” of the Tea Party. (This is a self-identification not related to whether they have attended any rallies or events.) Tea Party ranks are dominated by Republicans: one-third of all the Republicans in this poll identify themselves as Tea Party members, as do one in five independents.

Yep BT none of them had read the bill a fact we can bring up to show manufactured outrage.

Uh, that’s how Republicans talk.

Lying about Republican popularity does Republicans no good–after all, such lies are always exposed on election day. The lie is, rather, of value to the Democratic establishment. THEY profit by playing up the strength of their opponents to the extent that we believe the lie and turn out to vote against the alleged lesser of two evils.

Thats we we need to take down these lies.

Back when George H. W. Bush was in the Republican primary for Pres., in a debate he called Ronnie’s “Supply side, trickle down economics” — VOODOO Economics.
Ronnie made him VP(shh,play along) and they have been trickling on us ever since.

55% haven’t heard much of it

Leaving 45% ~ of those 40% (presumably of that number) don’t know what it stands for.
Which means only 27% (of the total # of Americans) do know what they represent.

Or, of that 45%, “only a third thinks it reflects the views of most Americans” (i.e. 15% of the total). Now…we get about that percentage in those (18%) that consider themselves a Tea Party member). Even in the Republican Party they are a fringe group…only 1 in 3 considering themselves a member. Given that Republicans make up about 1/3rd of the electorate that would mean about 11% of the population are “Republican Tea Baggers”. Presumably the remainder (7%) comes from Independents and a few odd Democrats.

Ya the “Tea-baggers” are nothing to worry about. A nice view:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nEoW-P81-0

Sure it is, BT.

But how about “us”, have “we” (whoever “we” are) got the “libs”/dems where “we” NEED them to be?

I’m not talking about lesser weevil-hood, BT.

Crowing about how wrong the tea-party crowd is of little use to those of us who don’t think the current massive failure to do what is necessary and desperately needful is entirely the fault of the Rethugs.

The Rethugs are not running the place, in spite of Dimocrite whining that the bad REthugs are the problem.

I agree with ratfood.

Otherwise, I had intended not to bother commenting.

I’m certain you could care less.

But ratfood and I are trying to tell you something.

Are you gonna be like Obama?

Or might you consider the “why” of our concern?

Let the friggin’ tea-party crowd speak for themselves or use BIG snark tags.

I assumed you were “quoting”, but it doesn’t change the “concern”.

DW

Well stated, and I couldn’t agree with you more. As aggravating & annoying the mostly racist teabaggers are, they’re not the “problem.” Republic think tanks & Dick Armey made short work of co-opting/astro-turfing them into almost total irrelevance. The TN convention put some more nails (not the final ones) into the coffin.

I also agree that the former GOP “brand” is the new “brand” of the neo-liberal “Democrats,” as led by ObamaRahma, and likely to become even more corporate dominated since the Citizens United SCOTUS coup de etat in January.

As much as I’ve some respect for KO and esp for RM, I am increasingly finding their shows almost irrelevant. Their focus on mocking the likes of teabaggers & GlennSeanRushBillo, while relevant at one time, has become a big waste of time. I turn them off when either wanders into that territory. Their not the issue. Rush & Glenn are being paid handsomely to blurt out racist claptrap while babysitting the rightists. So what?

The bigger issue is the marginalizing of true progressives (or whatever we should be called) by the coporate-run neo-lib DINOs, as exemplified by Rahm’s infamous outburst calling us all “retards.” That is the real story now.

These stats about Republics are of some interest, to be sure, along with the info about more Republic’s quitting office, but the question is: who is going to dominate and run the country? At this point, even with a “D” next to the pol’s name, it is the corporations – Big Daddy WarBuck$ – calling the shots. The astroturfing of all gov’t if you will.

I agree: that’s the story that requires more focus.

Pressing the numeral “1” takes, even for the most numerically challenged tea-bagger, somewhere around 2 seconds. Making that sign probably took well over 2 hours, probably longer for the average tea-bagger as a few of the words are actually polysyllabic. So that lady could have hit the numeral “1” 3600 times in the amount of time it took her to create a sign that merely displays a depth of ignorance that would challenge the US Navy’s most reliable bathysphere.

I know European nations have people just as dumb, but are they organized into an official political party as they are in the US?

Sorry, I’m simply not going to make every one of my posts a variation of “why the Democrats suck and are exactly the same as the GOP.”

How else will the Democrats change, or even consider change?

I don’t see mocking the horrific state of the GOP as being inconsistent with getting the Democratic Party to be more progressive.

And if you really think the country would look exactly the same under President McCain and Vice President Palin, you need to put down the crack pipe.

Not askin’ ya to, BT.

Just see little value in making fun of the reality-challenged ‘set’ when, closer to ‘home’ we have more than enough disfunction.

Our problem, at the moment isn’t the right, it’s the so-called middle and the paucity of courage therein.

You are a dem partisan, which is fine, I am not, which I hope is acceptable to you, but we are in ‘this’ together, you will agree?

DW