Jane, Ben Ray Lujan represents northern New Mexico.

jane, with you on how pathetic palin is, etc., but let there be no mistake, dear; the tea party folks may talk a lot of economic bs, but most of them don’t know any more than banks got the dough and we got screwed. then they try to snit fit their way out of the bigger gubmint tangle this puts them in cuz they secretly wanted the gubmint dough the banks got.

no, this is just the wedge issue du jour that the handlers have cooked up. what really really pulls these people together is their ‘christocrat’ leanings. that, and the obvious deep-seated racism.

which makes all the ‘divine intervention’ noise palin was making even scarier.

There was a lot of pushback because of the price of the Palin tickets, and many of the rank-and-file tea party activists see her as a symbol of the establishment GOP’s attempt to co-opt their nascent movement.

You wouldn’t know it from this Liz Sidoti puff piece.

I think you are mistaking crediting the Tea Party with an ideology. I think they are more of an emotion. That is one reason they will never organize under a platform.

If the economy wasn’t so bad and Obama wasn’t so notwhite, teabaggers would likely stay home.

Is she bringing Palin donuts?

That is one reason they will never organize under a platform.

They have no ideology, no beliefs. They will all fall in line and vote Puke on election day. They are nothing but authoritarian kiss asses.

Conservatives deploy sinister campaign tactics and a network of professional political strategists and think tanks and industry groups that manipulate information and mislead the public.

Republicans tap into white prejudice against blacks and immigrants.

I still find her ability to garner attention and admiration quite scary.

She’s a best selling author. I heard that on the tv.
And I’m Princess Di.

good morning, Your Highness :)

The anger is real, though.

Hey ya, Twain. Are you one of those who throws socks at the tv? The man who was on WJ I think Saturday morning, a tea bagger was listing all of her great merits, and when he talked about her best selling author status, I was ready to break the tv all together.

” But you have to wonder why they invited her there in the first place. ”

First, you have to wonder, who is ‘they’?

‘They’ is a for profit organization set up by a married couple of lawyers who are starting a PAC they lead and want the people paying $500 plus room and board to donate money to aggrandize their political views. ‘They’ consider as a plank that candidates must be ‘in favor of national security’. Well, fine. Ron Paul is in favor of national security. He just doesn’t think paying billions to stir up foreign hornets nests and interfere in other countries benefits our national security. I don’t think that is what ‘they’ meant, though.

Tea Partiers are of a variety of people — from the wholly unorganized first timers to semi organized semi libertarians, to fairly well organized established socially conservative or libertarian groups. The big divide is on military hawkishness. However, the big unifying factor is on government staying out of individual affairs and cutting spending. To the extent part of the group addresses foreign policy, they necessarily are only speaking for their part.

Sarah Palin is a favorite with the social conservative side of the tea party movement, and as someone believing more localized government, where individuals can better impact it, is better and constitutional, Ron Paul supporters agree with her, as well. But those in Tennessee were her supporters. When Ron Paul draws equal or larger crowds, he doesn’t get nearly the same coverage. It is unfair, and I’ll sulk loudly where people care, but there it is.

The tea party is not pro interventionist foreign policy. A really good way to get libertarian factions to disassociate would be to make that a plank of some of the groups. But no one convention, leader or organizer speaks for the group, either, and anyone who says they do is simply delusional.

Palin is nothing more than a political pole dancer who is proud to take the money.

Unfortunately, the pole dancing is, uh, pulling voters in.

I can only hope that Palin has shot her mouth off once too often, by opening stating that declaring war is good reelection strategy. I can only hope that military families stand up to reject this cynical and egregious use of their blood and loyalty.

Whatever the ideological rift among the tea partiers, the religious, authoritarian faction will win the spoils of political representation, and the libertarians will again be left in the cold.

Of course, one could argue that this is the way libertarians like it.

Heh. Sarah the political pole dancer. So true, so true.

I really shouldn’t let Palin bother me so much, but the problem is that there just aren’t enough thinking people to combat all the lies – and I do think calling her a best selling author is a lie.
The woman has to write notes on her little haney to remember Anything!

Many people only heard the “kill muslins” [sic] part of what she said, while the part about electoral consequences was surely lost in the dog whistle.

Agreed.

And also note that her ‘ability’ is enabled by a scary MSM who are more than happy to help out.

Maybe I’m too forgiving, but I see the writing on her hand more like tying strings around her fingers–just as a reminder.

But what do I know…

That, too, is something that most sane people would reject, but her fans will see it as another sign of “hey, she’s just like us!” God bless her!

It might be telling if the baggers actually had convention. I doubt that they will ever be able to pull their ranks together because there are so many different factions. And Sarah is dragging some along in a direction I’m not sure they want to go. You can’t blend a group where one side wants constant war and the other side doesn’t. They are interesting, though, and may, in the end, have brawls over policy.

We can all have our different takes on that, but I just think she’s stupid. And, ignorant also.

That’s odd; I see the writing on her hand as more like a grade school kid’s test trick. On second thought, that’s exactly what it is. Too bad the tactic is being employed by a full grown mother of five.

You are probably right. I’ve never claimed sanity anyway : ) However, I do write down almost everything, and I have been known to write on my hands.

I live in Palin country surrounded by these people; and you absolutely nailed it.

So, “Palin Gives Teabaggers A Wedgie”. Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of folks.

For what it’s worth, Palin’s little palm trick surely sent shudders down the spines of every establishment Republican contemplating Mitt Romney for President.

She may be the Mike Huckabee of 2012. Little chance of getting the nomination, but a force the GOP will have to reckon with. Or she will merely flirt with a presidential run to continue to boost her public profile and profitability.

But you have to wonder why they invited her there in the first place.

It’s 2008 all over again: A lot of conservative/libertarian-leaning indies were amenable to listening to her, until she opened her mouth. Now it doesn’t matter how high she slits her skirts and how much she winks, she’s still done for as a force for anything other than driving wedges between the various parts of the GOP base.

Maybe Palin wants to be another Oprah so she can give the world the benefit of her wisdom.

“…she’s still done for as a force for anything other than driving wedges between the various parts of the GOP base.”

I can see a lot of value in that.

Palin’s chances of running in 2012, and having a damn good chance at winning, improve every day. She’s everywhere. She’s the 2012 America’s Next Top Prez candidate. Media loves her. Blogs love her. All this attention means one thing. Look out America.

That was indeed the case in 2000 — Ralph Nader took seven times as many votes from Al Gore as Pat Buchanan took from George W. Bush. However, it’s starting to look like the people who’ve sowed the wind are now reaping the whirlwind.

Somebody is in the background guiding this woman’s hand and voice like a puppet. She truly doesn’t know anything and will become the perfect manchurian candidate for the Repubs. If you listen to her comments she is trying to appeal a little bit to everyone in the Republican party while at the same time staying away from immigration and minority related issues. Example, she mentions supporting Israel or keeping church and God in everything politicians do. My advice for progressives and liberals is don’t underestimate this woman or whomever is pulling her strings.

She needs a reminder to say “Tax Cuts!” and “Drill, Baby, Drill!” ?

Indeed.

…and I actually do tie strings around my fingers as reminders.

and may, in the end, have brawls over policy

Given their penchant for coming armed, it might be more than brawls.

Uh no, Jane. Their primary message has always been racist.

Nah. If she actually cared about winning, she or her handlers would have known to avoid pissing off a key voting bloc this badly. She’s in it for the speaking fees — she’ll bail when it gets serious, just like she bailed from the governor’s mansion just as the probes of her gubernatorial career were heating up.

She might as well have said “let’s burn the constitution and expand the Fed.”

Hasn’t that already happened?

she’s still done for as a force for anything other than driving wedges between the various parts of the GOP base

You neglected to mention her greatest asset – marketability and profitability. It’s often said that although Rush Limbaugh only appeals to a tiny fraction of the overall population, that fraction is enough to make a fortune. Limbaugh is to radio as Palin is becoming to an even larger constellation of right-wing outlets, Fox News being just one of them.

Politically, I don’t think she’s much more than an experiment in development. As the time approaches, she and her handlers will evaluate the cost-utility balance of her running. For now, there’s millions to be made.

She needed to remind herself to say “cut taxes” instead of the more highfalutin’ “budget”. I can’t defend her stupidity, just the use of writing down ideas (on hands) as a reminder.

I agree. If she is the nominee she will draw a lot of votes from the Rs, maybe a few indies (doubtful) and zero Ds. She won’t be the nominee because the powers-that-be simply won’t allow it…..they can’t. It would be the end for them.

She’s definitely in it for the money. How long do you think Fox will keep her around if they see that she is alienating large blocs of voters? Yes, she can probably get ratings, but if she ends up splitting the wingnut vote, they’ll have a decision to make.

Someone might also point out to Ms. S. that Obama is not constitutionally permitted to “declare war,” that only Congress has that privilege. Interesting how people who have obviously never read the Constitution enjoy trying to foist themselves off as constitutionalists. Government assisted universal health care for all is “unconstitutional.” Like for example. Also.

I put up a couple of headlines at my blog yesterday that blew some AK Palinbots out of their knickers. Now they’re threatening to have me fired or disciplined at my job as a UAA Prof. One is claiming that I wrote that I would have any student who put speech notes on her or his hand expelled for that. Good grief – kids don’t give speeches in my class, but they do take a lot of exams.

And this headline drove a bunch of Palinistas nuts:

More Palin Handjobs Surfacing.

My first response today will probably be to reprint this essay of Jane’s.

They did manage to get Jesse Griffin fired from his job last summer, but my employer has stuck up for me in the past when I was even more controversial.

She will dutifully throw her support behind the annointed GOP candidate when the time comes, and that will be enough for her followers (and for Fox News).

Before that, if she becomes a candidate, she will direct 99% of her fire at Obama – as will most of the other candidates. It will be a competition to see who can most visciously attack Obama, with a few side skirmishes over who is more feverishly devoted to religious dogma, anti-intellectualism, and jingoism.

holding political office is hard work. Palin is in it for the ka-ching and being a pundit pays, as Huckabee discovered. She is the next spokesmodel for the party, whatever shape it’s in.

added bonus: no accountability for pundits.

Palin wants Obama to “declare war on Iran” for what?

What has Iran done to us?

Are we to conclude that if Palin were president, she would take our nation to war against other countries just because she thinks it’s a good idea?

And, never mind the stuff about being menacing to Israel. In what way is Iran menacing to Israel? What aggressive military action has Iran taken toward Israel? Or toward any country, for that matter?

Yes, yes, I know, Ahmahitlerjad is a Holocaust denier and he has made some menacing statements toward Israel. He is, many accounts, a hideous person. Is that a reason to go to war? How can anybody take seriously a public figure who says it is, especially one with presidential aspirations?

Upcoming on MSNBC, report on Washington State soldier who waterboarded his daughter. His 3 year old daughter. [Prairie correction: 4 year old daughter]

Just in case we forget just how deadly serious getting the Rethugs out of power and keeping them out really is.

Give ‘em hell, Tell!

A mystery to me is why a small gathering of certifiable nutcases gets any attention at all. Hell a few hundred people come out to the winter farmers market here in NH and nary a reporter turns up to wonder what the hell we are doing.

This country, it seems, is celebrity obsessed whether it be Brittany with no panties, Sarah with no brain or Tiger with no restraint. A few hundred frigin nutfucks in the middle of the country and the media goes gaga. WTF

Did Palin really have notes written in the palm of her left hand the other night at the Tea Party convention? Seems so. She can be seen looking at them during the faux Q&A.

She will dutifully throw her support behind the annointed GOP candidate when the time comes, and that will be enough for her followers (and for Fox News).

I agree and disagree. I agree that that will be her role, to endorse, not run. But I do love the fact that she “goes rogue” and off script quite often. She’ll probably initially endorse the wrong candidate, do a mad scramble, then get with the program. True Fox entertainment.

I’m thinking of putting up a poll:

Sarah Palin is a:

Saint
Slut

(choose one)

U can count on the anti-abortion crowd to take this whole thing over and push for more War against adults everywhere. This is an infantile rant not a movement. They will get even less traction against the Corporatist war machine then we will in our party. They’re basically being pumped up by a rt. leaning media to offset our real numbers but lousy messaging and weak $$ positions. The rt. wing has few people but massive funding and it shows in how they are presented.

Clearly we must declare war because Iran is muslim and olive skinned. There need not be another reason for Sarah Palin.

Makes sense. She gets to keep the gravy train rolling, and Fox (and the party) get what they want…

you rock, mr. dood!

*g* see me at #15.

Britney with no panties is so much classier than Sarah Palin.

She’ll probably initially endorse the wrong candidate, do a mad scramble, then get with the program. True Fox entertainment.

Ha ha, probably right about that.

By the way, only partially OT, would someone please give Andrew Sullivan a paper bag to hyperventilate into?

If you’ve managed to piss off a few PalinBots enough to make them threaten you, then obviously you’re on the right track. Go EdTell…

Yeah, I saw that story when CTut linked to the Daily Mail in his diary last night.

Nice that a US media outlet is finally picking it up nationwide (I assume some of the local papers/stations did cover it)

Four year old daughter.

Waterboarded.

Several times.

Live with that one, George W. Bush.

What. All he did was “splash a little water” in his child’s face.

I do like that metaphor. Or is it a simile. Have to check my hand notes….

Are we to conclude that if Palin were president, she would take our nation to war against other countries just because she thinks it’s a good idea?

If Palin were to become president, she’d easily beat Bush for worst U.S. president within a couple of months.

Progressives tend to believe that reason is trump in politics and policy formulation. Unfortunately, it isn’t always so.

Clearly, Palin is making a connection with a lot of “folks” at an emotional level where reason is not trump, but a damn rumor.

Mocking her lack of knowledge and goofy ideas, will not defeat her.
Rather, it will strengthen her.

To defeat her is going to require battle at visceral level, that I am not sure progressives have the the ability to wage or stomachs for.

One advantage of Palin’s incoherence: making it that much harder to identify the blatant contradictions in her many rambling statements.

http://www.dailykos.com/tv/w/002551/

ET
It is real interesting that because you are in a profession that teaches youngsters, you are not allowed to have opinions on your site especially against dear Sarah Palin. What is that meme about stifling free speech?

David Dayen has a fresh cross-post already in progress: Begala Wants A Vote On Republican Budget – Which Democrats Forced Last Year, With No Discernible Impact

Sarah Palin knows she is a joke.

Sarah Palin is just looking at ways to make some extra cash.

Sarah Palin does not want to be president, it would be a huge pay cut for her.

Sarah Palin is doing what a lot of Rs are doing these days, taking advantage of the poor and down trodden followers of the tea party.

I will be very, very happy when the day comes that I no longer have to pay any attention to, or hear about, this way over-hyped grifter con-artist. That said, IMO we need to keep an eye on her and call out her utter b.s. at every opportunity. Taking the so-called “high road” just doesn’t work, and thinking that “sane” people won’t buy this is being naive.

That she is now advocating for war against Iran (with what troops, Sarah? with what money, Sarah? Oh, are you gonna donate your $120k+ speaking fee to the war effort, Sarah?? Ya think that’s enough?) should be pushed out there for all the libertarians to see. Nutty.

I noticed during the SuperBowl yesterday (only watched part of 2d half) that there were a number of “rah-rah, go-go” ads at least for the Air Force (I think). If nothing else, our military is stretched waaay too thin, but this is a FACT that the Queen of Babble-On, and her slavish devotees will totally ignore. If their “god” told them to “just do it,” then it will “miraculously” happen.

Keep our eyes on this bint, whether we want to or not.

And why did this idiotic “convention” of less than 600 attendees get so much attention?? Because the corporate-owned, rightwing media deemed that it was in their interest to make this seem “important.” It plays into what the corporations want; it has absolutely eff-all to do with whether it was “newsworthy” or not.

Palin as political pole-dancer!!! lol… me likey! ha!

Agree with you completely. Cannot just mock and point and laugh. Her minions will gain strength from that and just cling to Palin all the more.

agreed. any suggestions for the visceral attack?

I think her achilles heel, politically, is the fact that she’s a quitter. We could stoke abandonment issues in the tea partiers…

I also wish that people would make more of the fact that she always always bites the hand that feeds her. You can take that bet to Vegas. I just wonder how we can use that to advantage more.

Kleinheider, blogging at the Nashville Post:

And when did the tea party movement get a foreign policy? I didn’t put a clock on it but the first portion of Palin’s speech seemed very heavy on the neoconservatism.

Listening to the speech, I wondered the same thing. None of the Tea Party rallies had anything to say about foreign policy.

she’s still on the kristol myth, I see.

Hopefully this tips her hand on her real agenda “for the people.”

It’s like swimming.

The Tea Party folks were first brought out by Fox News and Dick Armey’s Freedomworks astroturf shop to try to stop healthcare reform (as if Congress needed help on that score). The folks who came out were told that they were a spontaneous movement, and they believed it. Now, they’re worried about being co-opted by the Republican Party, whose leadership has gone out of their way to build them up as the force that will overturn Democrats.

So the GOP front groups get together and set up this super-hyped Tea Party convention of 600 who pay $350 per in order to see GOPer Sarah Palin. You don’t get the sort of media hype they got by being a political insurgency. And they are worried about being co-opted? And Paul pere-and-fils are making the same libertartian overtones as before but remaining within the GOP. Are they running against the GOP establishment? Didn’t think so.

Just because several hundred who didn’t go to Nashville actually believe the anti-tax, anti-government message doesn’t mean there is a real movement there. They should wake up; they have been co-opted from the beginning. The GOP media machine has inflated the image of their power and importance. There is no there there except for Dick Armey’s clients.

There is a populist reaction going on, but the Tea Partiers and Paulistas are not them. Both of those groups are tightly linked to the GOP establishment.

The first presidential showdown in 2012 will be the Iowa Caucus.
This headline in yesterday’s Des Moines Register suggests there is trouble ahead.

Iowa Poll: 33% of Iowans support ‘tea party’ movement

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20100207/NEWS/100206011

I am wondering what the one or two% of americans who own 99% of it think-say-wld do.
I have stopped listening to pols,clergy, media, ‘educators’ long time ago.
For the last 40 yrs or so[before that i was much,too much, semanticly blind to notice the reality]i rely almost solely on my two good eyes to guide me in this world.

An explanation is in order ab the meanings of semantic blindness.
One is blind when one has s’mhow-s’mwhen-s’mwhere acquired a preconceived notion that prevents one to see reality or truth.
EG, a child who’s told by parents or a priest that there is a god and who’s ‘mind’ they know, might not ever discard the notion that no one can know any god; one can only guess. These truths are self-evident. But as i sed……
Ok enough teaching sfor now. tnx

Declare war on fucking Iran? Is this woman COMPLETELY FUCKING INSANE? Jesus Christ what a total freaking imbecile.

She is one of the greatest of political gifts, a worthy opponent. Think of her as a fulcrum on which to apply a lever.

Suggesting cutting the budget at an event where the biggest expense was her fee was probably not the message she wanted to send.

So she is trying to keep the christianists in the neo-con camp?

Can u say GW BV$H in skirts. I’d like to know what BIG guys and Corps. lurk behind those skirts. She’s just another smiling puppet like Obama and BV$H etc. The Corporatist elite only wants PR types since Reagan.

She should replace Michael Steele, she is actually qualified for the job!

Palin Writes On Her Hand, Obama Uses A Teleprompter: Big Deal? NPR poll, tell them what you think.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2010/02/palin_hand_notes_obama_telepro.html

EXCLUSIVE: Palin’s Tea Party Crib Notes
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stefan-sirucek/did-palin-use-crib-notes_b_452458.html

I found this so hilarious I snagged the picture for my Huffpost icon. It took hours and hours for them to OK it, but I got it. LOL

It is part of a culture, they use expressions like “hold your feet to the fire” too.

I never understood that until I read a book on child abuse. Some people actually do such things, they think it is discipline. In Salt Lake City I saw bill boards with a picture of a hot stove burner and it said, “this is not a discipline device.” On billboards. I saw four of them.

They haven’t shown much of it yet.

Sunshine – (if you happen to check back here later in the day)

I read the article about that at DU earlier this morning…….how did msnbc cover it?

I see you don’t believe in me.

Right on Jane! Sarah Palin is a neocon war monger. She is one of those Betty Jane evangelical Judeo Christians who have fallen for the lie that the Israeli’s are Gods Chosen people and America must fight all of Israels enemies.

The tea party has been hyjacked by neocons like Glen Beck, Dick Armey, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Gov. Perry and Palin. These morons are pro Wall Street and pro Israel. Just like Bush and Cheney.

The libertians do not want anything to do with these neocon jackasses.

I find a lot of the comments here really irrelevant, and some downright sexist. (You know who you are.)

The point of Jane’s article is that Palin made yet another tactical mistake. Which means she is NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT. No matter how many crib notes on her hand or history lessons this woman pays to have crammed into her brain, there is no way to be able to bring this woman’s IQ up enough to enable her to make good decisions. And even if a Rove/Cheney puppetmaster were to take on Palin 2012, her blotchy history and resume preclude this from being viable. The GOP already sees this. It’s only a matter of time before the Tea Baggers do too.

That giant lipstick makes me gasp and cover my eyes. What is wrong with me? LOL.

I’m glad she’s driving libertarians out. These freakazoids NEED a strong association with libertarian well-meaning constitutional purity. So I hope that can’t get any of it, ever. It’s time more people realized, teabaggers are not libertarians, they’re giant lipstick waving clowns.

And as the MSM would say…keep watching the clowns, don’t look away.

I think she garners ratings, and that’s why she gets so much attention. As soon as the media notices a drop in the viewership who come by to watch the trainwreck, she will fade into the background with those who invoked emotional responses before her.

Neoconservatism isn’t supposed to be socially-conservative. It was borne out of the liberalism of the 60′s, and accepted social progress on civil-liberties, but saw the hedonistic culture that rose up with it as making the United States weak and docile, at a time when they thought we should be using our strength and hegemony to push democratic liberalism around the globe.

The central plank of neoconservatism is to embrace civil-liberties by globally expanding them through militarism. Yes, it’s completely asinine, and creates the obvious conflict between military interests superseding civil-liberties, but nonetheless the first step of the ideology is embrace progress on civil-liberties, which is great so long as you ignore that step to is the de facto suspension of them due to the method of embrace.

The sentence,

There’s a tension within the conservative movement right now between the more social conservative, neocon wing that Palin represents, and the anti-tax tea party libertarians who have stronger paleo leanings.

doesn’t really make sense. It was the neoconservatives that decided in the 70′s that they were going to have to glom onto some other political segment to get into power, and at the time their only real option was social-conservatives. The rift in the conservative movement is between neoconservatives, social-conservatives, and paleo-conservatives. Essentially socially liberal military hegemonists vs. religious fundamentalists vs. free-market libertarians.

the real peace movement resides in the libertarian movement– clearly both parties are warmongers. dems and repubs monetary policy does not change foreign policy does not change–wake up fools

She pulled a wedgie right between the GOP and the TEA parties? You betcha!

Way to go Sarah!

Rand Paul can’t be a true Libertarian if he’s aligning himself with Palin who promotes starting a new war with Iran. As well as the fact that Palin prides herself in the knowledge that she made big business (the Oil Industry) give everyone in Alaska a welfare check. His dad Ron Paul would have never agreed with either. And if that is not enough she’s endorsing big government politicians like John McCain and Rick Perry It makes me wonder if Rand Paul is just a shield for the GOP?

Now I hear newly elected Brown is also backing McCain; seems like a shell game to me with same old GOP politics as usual.

Yeah, the teabaggers are pretty much an angry anti-big government mob. No real policy of any kind except anti big government.

I think the original teabaggers were libertarians who are very much anti interventionists(oppose involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan etc..). But FreedomWorks quickly hopped on the teabag bandwagon and muddled things to the point where the only thing they’d all agree on is opposition to the bank bailouts and opposition to taxation.

Oddly, a fair chunk of teabaggers(the non-libertarians) are anti tax, anti big government and pro military spending. I guess they never bothered to check what the biggest line item on government spending really is.

As for Ron Paul supporters, they want no part of Palin and her war with Iran.

FWIW, the Alaska Permanent Fund (where the state provides the bucks to all the residents) has been in existence since ’76 and providing pay-outs to Alaska residents since ’82. Palin may have gotten a little sweetner into it but she is not responsible for its existence.

My disagreement is not in the origin of FWIW, the Alaska Permanent Fund (where the state provides the bucks to all the residents), but that Palin is not just a strong proponent, but also as you stated sweetened the pot. The Libertarians, even when least liked stood strong on a core set of beliefs. Libertarians had ethics, morals and didn’t waiver on its values. It bothers me deeply that Palin is all over the place in thought, going against Libertarian beliefs, trying to co-op the Party for her own gain.

Don’t confuse the Ron Paul-Alex Jones “Infowarriors” with the Limbaugh-Beck-Coulter brownshirts.

They are mortal enemies.

The Ron Paul types are liberals who think that government involvement in the economy leads to massive theft (crazy, I know…)

Actually it’s the confusion in the message by the messengers that bothers me. In that although I know the difference, it seems that all to often politicians are trying to use to their advantage the murkiness of the conversation, following Palin’s lead of talking much, but telling the people nothing.

Sarah Palin is like a Piñata her only purpose was to be the center of attention and get the media as she was just propoganda bait for the cameras and served no other function for the tea party except to be noticed. The government and big businesses have been exploiting Americans throughout time, even when the constitution was just in it’s infancy. The only difference from back then and now, is back then if you protested the government shot you down in the streets while the politicians and business men pocketed the money. The only Americans guranteed anything are the rich and those who have influence on the law, the rest are pretty much left for dead. You do not have any rights unless you are wealthy or work in some sort of government branch that influences law, do you understand me, you are a nobody. You have no rights, the constitution serves the few, the people who are rich and control and enforce the law, you are weak and will always be weak. In time even talking about those who have wealth and power will be your death sentence.