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Early Morning Swim

By: Blue Texan Monday February 8, 2010 4:49 am

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66 Responses to “Early Morning Swim”

RevBev February 8th, 2010 at 4:53 am
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NOLA Saints, DATS WHO!! (Couldn’t help myself)

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Marion in Savannah February 8th, 2010 at 4:57 am
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In response to RevBev @ 1

Laissez les bon temps roulez! Seeing as Mardi Gras is in 8 days that town may just be one long party until then…

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RevBev February 8th, 2010 at 4:58 am
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In response to Marion in Savannah @ 2

Right….thanks. Really a joy.

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RevBev February 8th, 2010 at 4:58 am
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OT: Cat owners degrees smarter/more educated than dog owners. Who knew?

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eCAHNomics February 8th, 2010 at 5:00 am
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In response to RevBev @ 4

Trying to start a cat & dog fight early in the morning? *g*

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RevBev February 8th, 2010 at 5:02 am
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In response to eCAHNomics @ 5

O why not? When I got divorced a thousand years ago, I said the best part was not having a fight in the am before work….Maybe Im out of practice…..

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eCAHNomics February 8th, 2010 at 5:03 am
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In response to RevBev @ 6

Best part of living alone is not having any fights at any time.

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Marion in Savannah February 8th, 2010 at 5:05 am
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In response to RevBev @ 4

As long-term cat staff I’ve always thought so… (G)

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RevBev February 8th, 2010 at 5:06 am
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In response to eCAHNomics @ 7

True, DAT…

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RevBev February 8th, 2010 at 5:08 am
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In response to Marion in Savannah @ 8

You’re clearly right…..Ooops…just hearing Sarah Baby was speaking with Guv Good Hair on Sunday….saying people in TX & ALA. alot a like. Ugh. Time for her to go home.

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eCAHNomics February 8th, 2010 at 5:10 am
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Michael Pollan is the guest on democracynow.

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twolf1 February 8th, 2010 at 5:15 am
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The pile of shit known as Morning Joe is especially stinky this AM.

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RevBev February 8th, 2010 at 5:15 am
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Brees is an Austin, TX young man and folks say he is a really good kid.

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msmolly February 8th, 2010 at 5:16 am
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I would rather have my fingernails pulled out than watch football, but I am curious about “Who DAT” and where it came from. Rachel was practicing saying it with the correct inflection on her show on Friday, and I’ve seen it here and heard it elsewhere. What does it mean?

As an Indiana resident with lots of Colts fans in the family, I was sorry about the ending, but I think it is a good thing for NOLA to have a Super Bowl crown.

My 9 year old granddaughter made a poster that read, “Go Clots!”

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eCAHNomics February 8th, 2010 at 5:19 am
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In response to msmolly @ 14

Clever granddaughter.

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RevBev February 8th, 2010 at 5:20 am
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In response to msmolly @ 14

It means Who is that? The history is mixed, but there is a similar phrase from NO that = the YATs that means Where ya’ at? from a certain part of the city….NO just has that very odd accent/inflection, so it picks up on DAT. There was a dust up/maybe short lawsuit about who owned the rights just this week before the game….short lived.

Others will know more of the details/history.

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mocha February 8th, 2010 at 5:22 am
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Morning! Cats Rule!

As far as oh please oh please for Palin to run. I think she is a dangerous and mentally ill woman with a rabid following. She should never be allowed to come even close to being the Republican nominee because you never know what might happen. People laughed about Reagan and Bush Jr running, and look what we got? Hitler was elected by the people. Mussolini was elected by the people. We do not want Palin to run. What we should be hoping for is for one or a combination of her scandals to bring her down permanently.

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Jim White February 8th, 2010 at 5:29 am
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In response to msmolly @ 14

Adding onto RevBev’s explanation, a few years back, most of the NFL teams decided that they needed pep songs. For New Orleans, they came out with a song with the lyrics “Who Dat say de gonna beat dem Saints?” So, Who Dat is a short, local version of “Go Saints” or “Geaux Saints”.

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Prairie Sunshine February 8th, 2010 at 5:30 am
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Sarah oughta hopey changey that Tina Fey doesn’t decide to reprise her act…

Scarborough nailed it mocking the over-the-top “skit” Saturday night.

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msmolly February 8th, 2010 at 5:31 am
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In response to RevBev @ 16

Yes, I figured “who is that?” but I’m just curious about the origin regardless of the pronunciation. I had never heard it, or heard about it, before Rachel was saying it on Friday.

I think “go Clots” is a reflection of how kids are taught to read and write — they write phonetically without attempting to understand the vagaries of English spelling and pronunciation, and evidently learn correct spelling as they read more. It must lead to mixups in letters for awhile, because I’ve seen my youngest granddaughter do the same sort of letter reversal. The letters are all there, just not in the proper order.

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realworld February 8th, 2010 at 5:32 am
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In response to RevBev @ 4

We are equal opportunity hosts. The cat bosses everyone around so I would suggest they are the smart ones, not us owners.

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msmolly February 8th, 2010 at 5:32 am
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In response to Jim White @ 18

Ah, thanks, I think that explains it.

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realworld February 8th, 2010 at 5:34 am
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In response to Prairie Sunshine @ 19

I see a Palin candidacy scary and not to be hoped for. Given the way the Dems insist on being republican-lite, she could win and would be more dangerous then even Shrub.

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Raven February 8th, 2010 at 5:34 am
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In response to msmolly @ 14

Here’s the original WHO DAT with Arron Neville from 83

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Indie February 8th, 2010 at 5:36 am
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The President’s invitation is nothing short of an admission that the GOP was in fact locked out of the negotiations and are indeed more than the ‘party of no.’ Paul Ryan (R-WI) was quoted as saying to Ezra Klein that he has ‘a lot of respect’ for the Wyden-Bennett Plan. “…if Ron Wyden and I were in a room, we could hammer out a deal by tomorrow.”

No doubt this type of talk perked up the ears of the WH.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/02/rep_paul_ryan_rationing_happen.html

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Raven February 8th, 2010 at 5:37 am
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he chant of “Who Dat?” originated in minstrel shows and vaudeville acts of the late 1800s and early 1900s and was taken up by jazz and big band performers in the 1920s and 30s[citation needed]. Later, the New Orleans Saints, an NFL team, adopted the chant “Who Dat?”, similar to the saying of the Cincinnati Bengals, “Who Dey?”. (“Who Dat?” would translate into standard English as “Who is that?”)

The first reference to “Who Dat?” can be found in the 19th Century. A featured song in E.E. Rice’s “Summer Nights” is the song “Who Dat Say Chicken In dis Crowd”,[1] with lyrics by poet Paul Laurence Dunbar.[2] A common tag line in the days of Negro minstrel shows was: “Who dat?” answered by “Who dat say who dat?” Many different blackfaced gags played off that opening. Vaudeville performer Mantan Moreland was known for the routine.[2] Another example is “Swing Wedding,” a 1930s Harman-Ising cartoon musical, which caricatured Fats Waller, Cab Calloway, Bill “Bojangles” Robinson, Ethel Waters, and the Mills Brothers as frogs in a swamp performing minstrel show jokes and jazz tunes. The frogs repeatedly used the phrase “who dat?”

In the swing era, “who dat” chants back and forth between the band and the band leader or between the audience and the band were extemporaneous. That is, there was no one specific set of words except for the two magic ones.

“Who Dat?” lyrics from 1937:

Who dat up there who’s dat down there
Who dat up there who dat well down there
Who’s dat up there, sayin’ who’s dat down there
When I see you up there well who’s dat down there
Who dat inside who’s dat outside
Who’s dat inside who dat well outside
Who’s dat inside, singin’ who’s dat outside
When I see up there well who’s dat out there
Button up your lip there big boy
Stop answerin’ back
Give you a tip there big boy
Announce yourself jack
Who dat up there who’s dat down there
Who dat up there who dat, well down there
Who’s dat up there, singin’ who’s dat down there
When I see you up there you bum
Well who’s dat down there
Who dat

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SouthernDragon February 8th, 2010 at 5:40 am
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Mornin’, BT, pups.

Howse about we tells Sen Shellface that he gets his tankers and GWOT center when hell freezes over. Petty little bastard.

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twolf1 February 8th, 2010 at 5:46 am
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In response to Indie @ 25

Thank you for explaining it to me. I was wondering what it was.

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dakine01 February 8th, 2010 at 5:53 am
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In response to Indie @ 25

Senate’s ‘Gang of Six’ key to healthcare reform – 3 Dems, 3 Reps

Obama Acknowledges Republicans Working on Bipartisan Health Care Compromise (YouTube)

GOP Health Care Talking Points

Obama Reaches Out to Republicans on Health Care, but Bipartisan Bill Looking Unlikely

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msmolly February 8th, 2010 at 5:53 am
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In response to Raven @ 26

Thanks, Raven! Wow, lots of history to Who DAT!! I had no idea

WRT Shellface’s hold, I was fantasizing that Reid could just declare a recess, let Obama make recess appointments of all of these individuals, and then call the Senate back into session. I’m sure that has no basis in reality of the process, but it would be very satisfying to see that happen and watch the pukes and Shelby sputter helplessly from the sidelines. I would pay real money to watch THAT!

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alan1tx February 8th, 2010 at 5:56 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 27

Dem = Rep = Dem = Rep.

WASHINGTON — Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev., is increasing pressure to have one of his aides confirmed to a top post at the federal agency that will decide the Yucca Mountain Project.

Reid confirmed Monday that he will put a blanket hold on all of President Bush’s nominees for executive branch positions except for judges and defense appointees.

Reid’s move could delay nominees awaiting Senate confirmation for executive jobs in the Agriculture, Education, Commerce, Interior, Justice, Labor and Energy departments, and at the Environmental Protection Agency.

Senate records as of Monday show 48 nominees pending for those departments and for government advisory boards that require confirmation.

Senators have the ability under the chamber’s rules to place holds on bills and nominees, a tactic that is used for leverage.

Reid employed the same strategy last year, blocking Bush nominees for more than a month last fall until the White House agreed to put forward Jaczko, a physicist, to become one of five NRC commissioners.

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SouthernDragon February 8th, 2010 at 5:58 am
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Off to swim in the great capitalist cesspool.

US KIA Irak: 4,375

US KIA Afghanistan: 984

Iraki and Afghan casualties: estimates vary to over 1.5M

US MBS 2010: 4,712 and counting

Be good to yourselves, and all other living things.

Namaste

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RevBev February 8th, 2010 at 6:00 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 32

And also to you and to all…Thanks again for Caturday and for those sharing the Saints Success….”My heart is full…” Cheers.

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dakine01 February 8th, 2010 at 6:00 am
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In response to dakine01 @ 29

Rep. Joe Barton: Republicans Will Repeal Health Care Reform If It Passes

GOP Has Health Care Ideas but Prefers Attacks on Obama

Republican Health Insurance Reform Bill Insures Almost Nobody

Mike Enzi, Gang Of Six Republican, Admits He’s Simply Blocking Health Care Reform

House GOP Health Group Stacked With Health Sector Campaign Cash

Yeah, those mean old Democrats ignored all those “good faith” efforts by the Republicans.

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realworld February 8th, 2010 at 6:01 am
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In response to alan1tx @ 31

How about we take up a fund for Harry’s rethug opponent this summer. In his current position he’s doing more damage to the country than any Rethug.

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Indie February 8th, 2010 at 6:09 am
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Mickey Kaus writes: “Something is Killing the President’s Approval Numbers (especially on Rasmussen): Is it his budget? Or the failure to pass health care reform, his #1 priority, and the ensuing strategic flailing, which is creating the impression that he’s … well, a loser? Nice guy. Knows all the arguments. Can’t get it done.”

It’s the budget. And the out-of-touch condescension.

Left to its own devices, there is no way our political class would stave off the financial collapse if we do not cut federal spending and if nothing is done to reform federal entitlements. If there is any hope of avoiding fiscal disaster, it is only because of the Tea Party movement and related grass roots efforts.

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Raven February 8th, 2010 at 6:10 am
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In response to msmolly @ 30

That is what is so ridiculous about the NFL trying to claim the rights to it!

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dakine01 February 8th, 2010 at 6:13 am
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In response to dakine01 @ 34

Broken Promises: GOP’s “Health Care Solutions Group” Admits It Won’t Have A Solution

GOP health-care strategy: Stall

The Republican Party’s health-care hypocrisy.

Senate Republicans plan attack on Obama health care bill

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Praedor February 8th, 2010 at 6:14 am
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Sheesh. I could save Obama a LOT of wasted effort on this whole “bipartisan” thing on jobs and healthcare:

On jobs the GOP will suggest:
1) Making Bush’s rich man’s tax cuts permanent.
2) Demand elimination of the inheritance tax.

On healthcare:
1) They will demand “tort reform”
2) They will suggest useless subsidies for insurance coverage for the poor.

That’s it. Of course, they will also somehow wiggle making Bush’s tax cuts for the uber rich and eliminating the inheritance tax into the healthcare “reform” meeting too. Apparently those two idiot ideas will pretty much fix ANYTHING.

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twolf1 February 8th, 2010 at 6:15 am
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In response to Indie @ 36

lulz

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dakine01 February 8th, 2010 at 6:16 am
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In response to Indie @ 36

Ah, another call for the “Elderly Eating Cat Food Commission”

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twolf1 February 8th, 2010 at 6:18 am
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New post up top…

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Indie February 8th, 2010 at 6:19 am
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In response to dakine01 @ 34

Good strategy by the GOP to attack the Dem plan. How else would their plan even have a chance of being discussed?

The majority of Americans prefer to start over on health care reform. Progressives can push for single-payer. Conservatives will push to end employer-based health care. GOP moderates will keep it but seek to lower the cost of insurance policies through legal reform – which will reduce the expensive practice of “defensive medicine” – and also create interstate pools.

Let’s have the debate. The question, at the end of the day, is who’s going to be in control of this system. Is it the individual or the government? I don’t want the government more in control of the system.

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Shoto February 8th, 2010 at 6:20 am
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In response to RevBev @ 4

Linky?

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Shoto February 8th, 2010 at 6:20 am
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In response to realworld @ 23

Palin makes Shrub look like Einstein…

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Shoto February 8th, 2010 at 6:22 am
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In response to realworld @ 21

My two kitties never fail to remind me that it’s their world. I’m just living in it…

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dakine01 February 8th, 2010 at 6:24 am
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In response to Indie @ 43

Did you even read the links where the Rs admitted that obstruction was all they were interested in doing? Even after they HAD been involved? And that their so-called “plan” was pretty much doing nothing at all to actually help people and provide coverage?

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Phoenix Woman February 8th, 2010 at 6:29 am
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In response to alan1tx @ 31

What, Harry Reid actually didn’t roll over to a Republican on something? Astonishing.

Oh, I see — he only did it for a little over a month at his longest. Meanwhile, Dawn Johnsen and several other Obama nominees have been held up for over a year. What was your point again, Alan?

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Shoto February 8th, 2010 at 6:30 am
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In response to Indie @ 43

How else would their plan even have a chance of being discussed?

What plan, exactly? Details and specifics, please.

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Indie February 8th, 2010 at 6:45 am
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In response to ShotoJamf @ 49

Yes, I see you swallowed the party line, hook and sinker. To get up to speed:

http://wyden.senate.gov/issues/Legislation/Healthy_Americans_Act.cfm

http://www.roadmap.republicans.budget.house.gov/Issues/Issue/?IssueID=8516

http://kirk.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3642&Itemid=88

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Indie February 8th, 2010 at 6:52 am
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In response to dakine01 @ 47

The political landscape is shifting beneath your feet. The only way to get GOP plans ever had a chance of being considered was to run in elections against the Obama plan, end the supermajority in the Senate and wow…look at what has happened.

GOP plans are out there. I linked to them above. Along with Wyden-Bennett and Ezra Klein’s interview with Paul Ryan. Obama WANTS SOMETHING and he will get it. Progressives will be the obstructionists now.

Popping the popcorn.

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Indie February 8th, 2010 at 6:58 am
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How Obama Got Keynes Wrong
http://money.cnn.com/2010/02/04/news/economy/meltzer_keynes.fortune/index.htm

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Rayne February 8th, 2010 at 7:00 am
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In response to Indie @ 51

Hope you don’t have dental work. I’d hate to see you get a big fat kernel stuck under your bridge.

The Republican plans produced to date have been a freaking joke.

Ryan’s looks little better than this graphic produced months ago by the GOP.

Reminds me of a classic cartoon.

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Rayne February 8th, 2010 at 7:03 am
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In response to Indie @ 52

And Fortune Magazine is the last place I’d look for an expert on Keynesian economics; it’s completely against their raison d’etre, which is supporting Friedmanomics.

You know, the Shock Doctrine.

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dakine01 February 8th, 2010 at 7:06 am
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In response to Indie @ 51

Yeah, and I linked to the analysis of the GOP “plan” before you linked to the plan. It does nothing.

BTW, how was Nashville this weekend?

And to answer your previous question, neither the individual nor the government will be in charge; the way things are going, it will be the corporations.

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Indie February 8th, 2010 at 7:06 am
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In response to Rayne @ 54

Yes. Insert fingers in ears and begin chanting blah, blah, blah, blah. So don’t even bother reading opposing viewpoints that may put a crack in your insular world view.

LOL

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Indie February 8th, 2010 at 7:07 am
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In response to dakine01 @ 55

No, it does NOTHING to advance a progressive agenda. There is a difference there.

I thought the corporations were ALREADY in charge. You make no sense.

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Rayne February 8th, 2010 at 7:09 am
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In response to Indie @ 56

Read them. Stop making false assertions.

Ryan’s also suggested privatizing Social Security.

Now there’s a real vote getter.

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Indie February 8th, 2010 at 7:10 am
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In response to Rayne @ 53

Again, another intelligent response. If this is what passes for debate the progressives are in bigger trouble than I thought. Ad hominem attacks are the last refuge of those who cannot effectively advance the debate in their favor.

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Indie February 8th, 2010 at 7:13 am
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In response to Rayne @ 58

What do you not understand about the word ‘unsustainable’? Social Security will NOT be around for me when I retire. Nor Medicare or Medicaid. Outside of ever expanding government control, historic deficits and increased spending of MONEY WE DO NOT HAVE, the Dems offer no solutions that are appealing to the majority of Americans right now.

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joelmael February 8th, 2010 at 7:15 am
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Digby is so on it again:

”
Certainly, if the people of this country are to understand what radical right wing ideology is really all about (and, conversely, what liberal ideology is all about) this dialog needs to take place”

If only our eloquent president, as he brags about listening to repug ideas, would describe what he hears. ie, one of their ideas is to get rid of medicare, another is…etc etc…

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Rayne February 8th, 2010 at 7:16 am
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In response to Indie @ 59

Don’t like the concern about your dental work? Then don’t get all smug about the popcorn.

Using crap to support a weak argument like an interview with Fortune magazine’s editor is baloney. As a managing editor I’d have refused to print garbage like that because there’s no real work involved in stating an opinion. That’s exactly what you whipped out as proof Obama has problems with Keynesian economics — Fortune’s opinion, not that of actual economists. Hell, Paul Krugman actually does a better job of making the case, but conservatives can’t ever been seen as using Krugman — a former economist for the Reagan administration — as a source.

Bring a better game.

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Rayne February 8th, 2010 at 7:20 am
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In response to Indie @ 60

You need to do your homework about Social Security and Medicare, and how they are different from the rest of the federal budget.

Really. Go read. We’ll be waiting.

And by the way, if you’re planning on saving personal cash to supplement the Social Security and Medicare you don’t believe will be waiting for you, may I suggest finding something other than the U.S. banking system run into the ground by the Friedman-esque system advocated and promoted by your conservative peeps.

I can’t even begin to imagine what kind of debacle it would be to take Social Security and Medicare monies and put them in the same privatized system which has set a global recession and localized depression into motion.

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tjbs February 8th, 2010 at 7:32 am
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MONEY WE DO NOT HAVE,
We do have the money it’s just being uselessly hoarded by the richest 1%/2%.
A change in the tax code would solve a world of imbalance.

unsustainable’? Social Security

For those who paid into this system stealing a combined 15% for forty years, find the money.

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Rayne February 8th, 2010 at 8:04 am
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In response to tjbs @ 64

Look, read this piece I wrote a while back. It explains the problem about federal spending (as well as why Ben Bernanke shouldn’t have been re-nominated and re-approved for Fed Chair).

We have been pissing away — nay, hemorrhaging money — on military spending, and for rather ineffective results based in some cases on illegal reasons. Every time you hear a conservative whine about entitlement programs, remember that the biggest sucking drain on the real budget is defense, and that the whining is a redirection away from this fact.

We could instead be whining about a surplus if we hadn’t gone down the road of exercising hegemonic militaristic power while continuing to believe the nonsense of trickle-down economics a la George W. Bush’s tax cuts.

But no. And as long as we allow the military bleeding to continue, well, we get the government we can afford and deserve.

By the way, the lock box — a progressive candidate once campaigned on it. Sounds pretty good right now, huh?

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Shoto February 8th, 2010 at 9:42 am
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In response to Indie @ 50

Yes, I see you swallowed the party line, hook and sinker.

What, precisely, leads you to this conclusion? Be specific.

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