Zedders?

ZED Good evening Fire Dogs how are you doing tonight? More storms for CA Central Coast and North this weekend. The hammer fell on Wall street today and across the global markets. Reason Debt and unemployment.
No surprise just a question of how long can the fat cats make the bad news seem good. Hold onto your retirement funds.

congrats larue — how’s sac tonight?

Hey Suz!

Aloha, Suz…!

hey bb — i’m worried about my calpers pension — you stocked up for the storms?

hey newton — how’s the bay area tonight?

aloha ct — how’s paradise?

Zedbedamned!

LOL!

Hello peeps!

hey kelly — how’s denver tonight?

evening suz, all.

hey sunny — how ya doing? did it warm up?

Hiya Pups!

We’re getting a pretty good soak. how about up there?

hey ce — how’s ohio tonight?

just drizzle and more drizzle

I’ve not heard of Sugarland. But ya got me to look them up!

This Is A Bit More Lively

Sugarland Wiki

I don’t know, awfully poppish to me, and not really country, but hey, I’m an old fart, and thing Waylon is real country, along with the Nashville Outlaws who invaded Austin, and before that, Hank Was Country.

I like pedal steel, but without some fiddles, dobro’s, mando’s and pedal steel, it just don’t FEEL country.

But ya made me look!!! *G*

Perhaps it’s because my iTunes just was spinning this, and I’m FAR removed from present pop.

When The Mac Was Really The Mac.

*G*

I Have Something To Say –

From 2 years ago. And it remains the same.

my oldest girl called me and had me look up the video on utube last night — said i would like it. i hadn’t heard of sugarland until last night.

*looksoutside*

Drizzling steady since 6pm!

That’s a GOOD thing!

Hey, that gal in Sugarland? I like her voice, I bet she’d KILL old timey, trad and new grass, and a less pop side of country mixes . . . didn’t mean to diss . . it was the material . . . my bad.

Wassup, Ya Peep!

Evening all, it’s been cold here in NM.

I was asking this the other night and still don’t know. There are 10 photos of FDL’s Facebook fans on my front page. Same for you? FDL has 7,307 fans. Of the 10 photos on my front page, 2 of them are also friends of mine, I mean people I know pretty well.

Their photos and at least one other of my friends is there among those 10 pix regularly.

My question is, does FB or FDL have some sort of linking that shows those pix to me b/c they are FB friends of mine and do other people get photos of people they know on FB, or does everyone see the same 10 photos as I do?

I need to spend more time being a musician! This has become patently true.

What about you, ya big mook?

Silent, not so cold, but we are expecting snow this weekend.
I think I have a little black cat living under the house ( I am still missing old Elvis).
We will be driving to Philadelphia area this next weekend, returning msce’s car to PA after a ridiculous e-check (Ohio law) on the exhaust system.

hey bg – i think its random. i never see any faces i know when i look at the f/b fans on the front page.

how ya doing tonight?

Well, your daughter has a KEEN ear for a voice, she’s got a voice.

Again, sorry to critiize the pick . . .

There are some women sangers in the grass genres who sound like her, but come to life for me with the instrumentation and lyrics . . . Alecia Nugent comes to mind . . .

I’d sure like to hear her DO some serious grass be it trad or new . . .

larue — here’s the wiki which has more info on her

brrr — hope ya have good travel weather ce

Last two days have been lovely. Forecast not so good.

Well, music!

Working on the dobro, working on sanging and playing the dobro (really, phookin hard for me) or trying to LEAD a song to sing on the dobro.

It’s difficult, to kick a song off in a jam if ya can’t play the melody or chords like a guitar does.

And folks just stare at me, a few times when I announce the song, the chords, meter, and such, and kick it off.

Sigh. Not like keys, hoss, or a git, not at all . .

You play, though, dammit, it’s in you. Keeps ya sane. *G*

N ONE of these days, I’m gonna figger out how to kick off and pick thru Mac’s ‘Sands Of Time’ that I linked above. And just KILL some jammers, who appreciate that rock to jamgrass thang . . . (like doing old Stones tunes such as Dead Flowers, Wild Wild Horses, and more).

more cold?

Me neither until just now. They make good videos.

Hola!

An old love song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Dy5qslsUQo

kelly– there are some messages for ya on the downstairs thread

hey loohoo — how’s socal tonight?

!!!

hey emerson — how’s the east bay tonight?

Hi Suz, we had ward meetings tonight to elect delegates to our state pre-primary nominating conventions. It is a process. Some people get crazy, but it went pretty well for me, despite a couple of moments that were unfortunate.

So, all that randomness, and I know 20 or 30 percent of the people? Weird. I have been clicking on some of the people I don’t know and trying to find out how many degrees of separation there are. I found one person I know who is not from here and knows others I know. He works or worked for Greg Palast, so he has tons of FB friends. I know Greg better than I know Nick, who was the FDL fan. Random.

Heh, the surf board one is kewl . . *G*

Still too poppish music wise . . . everyone wants to be hip hoppish in the vocal stylings to sell records, go figger.

Suz, first time ever. I hate this song and the message it gives. She’s begging…

heh!

are you hearing the same conversations at the ward meetings about the path the d’s are on that i’ve seen here at fdl?

Kelly Hugs. You made me cry, your song is beautiful.

go to the end when she ‘gets up off her knees’ and stands up for herself

Cognac and fireplaces. Hi Suz.

Thanks, I’d posted that above in one of my replies to yas . . . . lotta potential there, but alas, lost to the pop country hip hop nation of sales . . . . they all wanna sound like Mariah Carey of the 90′s or Beyonce of today.

I’d rather listen to and watch Shakira!!! *G*

sweet!

Oh, Lordy. Sounds painful, but okay.

For you late niters who would like to poke a stick in Cheveron’s eye:
From AVAAVZ

Dear friends,

Oil giant Chevron faces losing a historic lawsuit on its dumping of toxic waste in the Amazon — let’s help the people of the rainforest win in the court of public opinion and before the law, by pressing Chevron’s new CEO to clean up this mess and stop Chevron’s dirty lobbying:

The final judgment is imminent after a long legal battle between oil giant Chevron and brave indigenous peoples of the Ecuadorian Amazon, who are seeking redress for the multinational’s dumping of billions of gallons of toxic waste in the rainforest.



If Chevron is forced to pay billions in damages, it’ll be a big step forward in bringing the world’s polluters to account. Staring defeat in the face, the oil giant has launched an aggressive last-ditch lobbying campaign to derail the lawsuit.

But Chevron’s newly-appointed CEO, John Watson, knows his corporation’s brand is under fire and is growing anxious about the risks of a public shaming campaign — so let’s turn up the heat! Sign the petition calling on Watson and Chevron to clean up their mess in Ecuador, and it will be delivered to them, their shareholders and the US media — click below to take action now:

https://secure.avaaz.org/en/chevron_toxic_legacy_4/?vl

(MODNOTE: edited due to excessive length) Aw Shucks Lurk… does I havta get ya some butter pecan icream??

Cause I can’t keep a tune in a bucket?

Yes I agree.

hey nahant — dood – ya gotta break stuff that long up

or just give the link

how ya doing?

Sheriff Joe may be about to get his… Sure wish katy was here to enjoy it with us.

How is the weather in Southern Cal?

Missed it, Suz. I don’t see it.

oh lardy she would have loved to see that

the end of the song she turns the words around and tells him to stay with his wife cause she wasn’t going to live this way anymore

OK Suz it was an email I got and the whole thing is worth reading Suz… Cheveron needs more than a Poke in the eye if ya know what I mean…

No silly, because it’s very moving.

hola!

still exceeded fair use which is generally held to be around 250 words — there was a link — i edited below that link

One can hope, and yes, Katy would have loved to see it happen.

hey cujo — how’s seattle tonight?

snow & freezing rain, dammit fuck

fuck

well guess I will just enjoy my pipe and lurk….

Hi Sunny, Chris, Suz, everyone…we’re getting some weather.
I might have to go out tonight to get supplies, it’s supposed to be icy tomorrow.
Nah I’ll just start a pot of beans soaking.

*laughing*

how’s julie? tell her i said hey

Smooch!

So here’s a bit of “Tenderly” for ya…

The evening breeze, caress the trees, tenderly…

http://www.youtube.com/user/SteeleStreetInn#p/u/20/6qKwzoVFzb4

Well, party activists are the base, so yes, we are saying many of the same things. One of the women in my ward spoke on national TV in Denver at the Dem Convention, the night BO was nominated. She was there tonight and still has hope for our party.

My very progressive state senator is running for lt. gov. We have 5 candidates who are mostly very good. The process for getting on the ballot here is that first you have to get a certain number of petition signatures. Once that is done, the next hurdle is to get 20% of the delegates to vote for you at the state nominating convention. If you can’t get 20% of that vote and you want to still get on the ballot, you have to get a huge increase of signatures. Signatures are hard, so people want to get the 20%. So they really try to get delegates elected at ward meetings who will help them get that vote at the convention. They try to get as many warm bodies there to vote and as many people who are willing to be delegates to the convention there to be voted in. Those people all have to be organized and “whipped” to elect their delegates. Each voter can vote for only one person, so the whip has to make sure to count their votes and voters and get everyone to do what they are told/agree to do. It is not a popularity contest, which is great, and it seems ultimately democratic to me, because the minority is rarely shut down totally.

People who don’t understand the process feel that “the fix is in” because the candidates have their whips there who are orchestrating the vote, mostly of people they have recruited to come. So it is politics, but it is also a lot of grassroots organizing.

hey margot — ham hocks beans and cornbread?

you should diary this bg — explaining the process and how it works.

Report: Shelby Blocks All Obama Nominations In The Senate Over AL Earmarks

i still like my sonata best

MY fav Fogelberg! Morning Sky!

Always reminds me of THIS!

*G*

fucker

Doing great she got home late and is tired resting her eyes next to the wood burner. She was out in the rain teaching..

Always takes a lotta love . . . (que Nicolette)

*waving*

Report: Obama invites Shelby over to watch SuperBowl.

Sunny, are you going to Netroots 2010, July 22-25 in Las Vegas?

Overcast and unusually warm. It’s been the latter for the last two weeks or so. In fact, most of January as I look back on it. I think this has been the mildest winter ever. We’ll see if that continues now that I’ve written it out loud.

makes me worry about the o’s. they start in what, less than 2 weeks and its 50 degrees in the daytime. not good at all.

Oh MAN I hope that asshat gets what’s comin to him . . .

Thanks for sharing that . . . made me look AND smile!

*G*

{{{KATY}}}

Was just remarking in the last thread that Reid ought to look at earmarks in retaliation. Looks like that might be more difficult. Still, I think this can’t be tolerated, or pretty soon nothing will get done in the Senate, no matter which party is in power.

What kind of beans?

My bean soup last weekend was a total bust– and they never softened! And, I’m a good cook! Anyway, we are watching The Shipping News right now, and I love these characters! mrce and I are going to St.John’s NF in November 2010 for a lecture. Can’t wait.

Beans, yum!

It’s gonna be pasta w/ bottled bruschetta sauce here. That stuff is surprisingly good.

O’s?

Well, there are national rules of the Dem Party that have to be followed by state parties, but I don’t know that the states can’t have their own rules for getting on the ballot.

However, the way to elect delegates is by the book, national rules, I think. That would be worth explaining, if people are still interested in trying to make the Dem party better.

We also introduce resolutions at this level. Our ward had three of them, all passed. One was related to the Supreme/corp citizen ruling, one had to to with foreign policy, and one was to try to have our party have some grievance procedure for employees. We have been working hard to clean up our party, been at it since 2005 and still an uphill battle, but occasional progress. I think the party grievance process resolution was introduced and passed at numerous wards all across the county tonight. We started organizing that about 3 PM. . .let me just say how easy it is to organize using the web.. .people are mad about a recent party firing.

LOL

the r’s have shut down the senate using diff tactic but achieving the same result gingrich did back in the 90′s when he had his temper tantrum.

winter olympics in vancouver

i came over here and just started watching sugarland videos. she’s got an incredible voice and the videos are so well done. great choice.

Indeed, that putz Shelby . . .

Does Shelby choke on a chicken wing? Or the sauce, maybe?

Huh? Huh?

Serious mistake. What fun we can have with this pile.

so explain how it is for your state and what you found worked and what didn’t work.

and absolutely explain the national rules. we are always looking for better d’s.

Good call Larue. DF may have borrowed a few chords. Love both songs.

thanks gw — how’s texas tonight?

no, turkey smoked sausage (just a little) and don’t have any cornbread fixings.

congrats emerson

what kinda beans?

i think it’s settling down; it’s been cold and rainy. i think we’re just continuing with cold. i’ve opted for hanging indoors all day, a lot of it sleeping.

I always wanted to be able to play like that! No can do.

Hadn’t though about it. At the moment july in vegas sounds pretty good..
Are you going?

They is keepers, round the camp jams, you betcha . . . after all these years.

i have gotten quite used to hanging out inside. the ever changing views out my living room windows encourage me to lose track of time

Thanks Suz (bows).

I have a package of pintos and one of 15-bean soup, I don’t even know what some of them are.

pintos are my fav — with the aforementioned ham hocks and cornbread — fry up some potatoes in a cast iron skillet and i’m in the comfort food zone

Night!
http://retrogradedesign.blogspot.com/

Poof!

g’nite ce — drive safe

Chris, that happened to me one time. THen I found out I should not have added anything acidic (tomatoes, etc.) to them until they’re really well-cooked. Like almost the end of cooking time. After that they’ve been fine.

Hmm, at 11pm Left Coast, it’s STILL drizzling, harder now, here in Sacto . .

Doppler radars show rain from Canada border south thru to roughly LA.

And snow inland, in the higher elevations.

LOTS of snow, for NorCal watershed . . . from Yosemite north, that is.

Not anywhere near flooding, but stocking up that snowpack, and fillin SLOWLY the reservoirs.

Brang it on El Nino!

YUP!

Very Very True. We gotta tell the Dems to use the Nuclear Option!! Simple Majority can change the rule so it only take a majority to legislate!! This 60 bullshit is untenable in this day and age! No wonder we have the most screwed up Government!!

tis the best corporate money can buy

Suz Ben Lomand got 2.24 inches today!

Beans is beans, for the most part . . . color varies, flavor? I’m not so sure anymore.

Texture, sure. Canned wise, they are packed differently so THAT don’t count.

How ya SEASON them, now, that makes a diffenence!

*G*

Love beans . . . love trying new and different seasonings on them, ways to USE them, and such.

Beans is fun, easy, and always a challenge to find new ways!

I LOVE what the Italians do with different beans . . . especially used as BEDS for various pork, meat, fowl and seafood dishes!!!

most i got in one day was almost 7″ iirc it was my first new years up there

Oh. ;)

Yes, they might be difficult, but it’s usually about five degrees F colder up their than it is here, and they have those mountains. As long as they don’t have an outdoor ice skating event in Vancouver they ought to be alright, I’d think. Wasn’t the last Olympics a bit warmer than optimal? (You can tell I pay a lot of attention.)

Yeah and that rule is nowhere in the Constitution.. Time to tell them to wake up and welcomed to the 21st century. They have a Country to run not fucking fight about..GRRR

Well, nothing works for us if we don’t find each other and work together for change. Our legislature is about half-way through our annual 30-day session. So a lot of political people who would participate in the process are at the legislature full-time now. I can’t even go into all that right now, but one thing we got punk’d on was domestic partnership, again. I will say that Gov. Richardson has been pushing to get it passed, so that is good, but he can’t make people do everything. I don’t know what he can hold over the Senators who are jerks b/c there is no money, so no special projects for example.

We have same-day voter registration for early voting going through the process, and other things, but this is mostly about how to not cut everything, raise some taxes, etc. Tough times.

After 2004, a lot of people got involved and we have been elected as ward chairs, then to the State Central Committee. We have a lot of good people involved, but the party needs money, and people like to give money to candidates (makes sense). The party used to be able to make the candidates come to heel when the party had significant money for campaigns. Not any more.

Anyway, we could have long discussions about it. Suffice it to say that unless third-party people can bring a lot of experience to the scene, it is really difficult to imagine how it will happen, truly.

This is why people still cling to the party, logistically it is uphill no matter what. We just can’t give up. That’s what I think anyway. Even though I want to throw in the towel lately myself.

Howard Dean is coming next week. Anyone have anything they want to ask him?

the winter o’s are the only ones i really enjoy watching — grew up watching abc’s wild world of sports (wtih the ski jump crash in the intro) — but now that i’m older i’m not watching for crashes

Cooking with smoked ham hocks changes the game, start to finish, beans to greens . . *G*

I ever send you my SouthWest Corn Bread recipe?

Here It Is, Archived

oooooh now that’s a question to write a diary about — bet ya get some great ones.

CE…beans are easy. Just soak them overnight in plenty of water. Rinse and cook with your flavorings!

Do you know what kind of beans are used for Navy Bean soup?

have at it, I should be able to see him.

Hope he chokes on a pork rib… serve him right porker… fiscal when the Dems are in but pork away when they were in power.

i like cornbread like my mom makes — with a hint of sweet. not tried it with buttermilk tho… hmmmm

Hmm, I’ve never had a problem with acids in bean cooking, I just keep cooking them till they are soft!

Presoak, cook forever, low heat, season early, often, late.

Any tomato product goes in whenever I want, but has to cook off and out so I CAN skim their acids.

But acids have never impaired the COOKING of the beans . . .

Guess I’m cornfuzzled what you two mean . . .

That’s true of salt too, isn’t it?

This is still one of my favorite songs…! *g*

lets be careful on that slippery slope of fantasy death wishes folks

a classic dood….

They can be fun. For some reason, I still like the bobsled races. Hockey’s better than the NHL version, so that’s a plus.

The crashes are a lot more fun when you don’t realize what they do to people.

So I soak the beans overnight, rinse ‘em a few times at the end.

Saute diced garlic cloves and onion in some olive oil til translucent then add chopped tomatoes (and optional green chile) and cook it together for a while. Add beans with some broth and cook a few hours. Never had any issue with acid.

If you want it fast, get canned beans, any kind, can add corn too, or potatoes. . .

yup — watching the crashes makes my aches ache in sympathy. and bobsleding and luge are fun to watch.

Both you and Cujo are now ignoring the precept that they are all bought, and serving the corporate masters and the corporate feudalism.

There IS no fixing them, or wishing they’d adopt a different procedure, strategy, to save the party, or their own elected hides.

They don’t care.

WE the people, will have to find new ways, other than the ballot box, to influence and change the system.

Yep.

WHOA!!! Wonder what my bro got in Scotch Valley!

*spews*

7 inches, one day????

*glug*

yep, i put in the salt after the beans are already soft and let it cook in about 15 minutes.

on edit: and i also soak them for 8 hours before cooking and rinse off the soak water and i cook them with kombu seaweed for digestability and minerals and whatever other seasonings/vegetables i’m using except i hold the salt til the end.

onions, garlic, beans, water, salt, pepper and ham hocks all n the pool together and cooked low and slow

yup — first winter on the creek and the noise of all that water rushing downhill had me checking the creek with a flashlight most of the night. that storm was my welcome to life on the mt storm

Yeah, I do.

One question, and one only.

“Mr. Dean, why’d the DLCC and DNC and the Dem Party steal your 50 State Strategy, and boot your ass to the curb?”

And the follow would be a comment to Mr. Dean: “So, fuck them, Mr. Dean, we need you back, dammit!”

*G*

me, a veg, so I do OK w/o the ham, though I do use chicken broth sometimes.

Pork rib, chicken wing, hot dog, pickle, donut . . who cares what it is . . just a sign from God that she still cares about us plebes . . *G*

We will def be talking about that. We still have a field rep paid by the nat’l, I believe.

beans and potatoes make a complete protein (as my mother keeps telling me). and ya can use the leftovers so many ways.

Here to tell ya, try that recipe start to finish, and put chili verde, or beans of any type, or anything on it that’s savory.

This ain’t cornbread for honey and jam!!!

*G*

Sigh, salt early, in moderation, but none till the end, yes . . . use sea salt, and TELL the difference in flavor!

i’m sure its good dood but for comfort food, mom knows best

I wish I could put some of the gas to good use, lol. There’s plenty of that anymore. Old fart.

Dang, LOVE that one CT!!! Nice pickl!!!!

Even liked it when Phil Collins sings it!!!

Nice, pick!

I have a couple:

1) How would you overcome the heinous Supreme Ct ruling last week?

2) Is there any way to get a Health Care bill passed that he would sign?

KNEW that would happen, yes ma’am, only thinking about a lil gasp for air, not a full experience . . . ;-)

My bad . . . *atones*

i soak overnight, rinse and cook low and slow or boil for 30 minutes, rinse, add fresh water and the rest of the goodies — seems to remove any gas issues i have with beans.

:) thanks dood

Sunny, I read that but it hasn’t happened to me yet (knock wood).

Another quarter in the Juke Box…!

A more haunting song…! I shall bid ya’ll a fond adieu…! Aloha Oe…! *g*

I’m sure these will come up too. I will report back what I hear and what others hear too.

aloha ct

All that to start, now depending on the beans, and the purpose of serving them, ya got French, Mexican, Spanish, Italian variations of seasonings . . . or SouthWest, or Creole, Cajun, Northern Atlantic Seaboard, and more just within the USA.

Dammit, now my stomach’s growling, and I’ve had plenty to eat today . . . sigh.

Phud Good!!!

*G*

I used to do that too, didn’t have a problem until one time…they were simply inedible, way too hard. Then I read acid causes it. Maybe I had a bad batch?

nope, that’s it. how my mom learned to cook them on the wood stove on my grandparent’s farm in rural kentucky back when she was a kid. simple food.

Wow. We had some worries in ’90 amnd ’92 here, due to ’86 flooding we’d heard about.

But that flooding was mostly due to both 13 days of torrential rains, and the failure of the pump system thru Cal Expo Pump Station into the American River. Same down south Sacto, along the Sac River, I understand.

Power went out, pump station were NOT maintained with back up power supplies, and quit.

Big water backups!

creek and river are real efficient at getting water off the mt — it was down at lower elevations that had troubles with flooding (felton and down into santa cruz proper)

Hey Margot, is it possible they just did not cook long enough? It really can take a long time from scratch, even if soaked.

Take a ton of saved up veggies or appropriate sorts (onions of all kinds, celery, celery root peelings, carrot ends/skins if ya peel carrots, any root veggie trims and ends (not beets), parsley stems, cilantro stems, and more.

Add garlic, whole pepper corns, chiles if ya like, other herbs if ya like dried or fresh, fill stock pot with water, reduce by half, strain . . .

You can get some SERIOUSLY fragrant veggie stock this way . . . . for more flavor, reduce it all to 1/4th!!!

*G*

Bless ya for attending to that, it’s a crime, and as I say, we need him BACK, in our house, on our side.

Thanks for all yer doin and sharing.

Thank you very much.

Also, there have been printed rumors of Rhambo leaving DC this year (Wapo). What do you think are the chances of this happening? How much access do you have to the President? What has surprised him most about Obama’s actions as President? At this point, what are the chances the Dems lose the House and senate in Nov?

oh yeah… tis good stuff

Never mess with moms!!!

*G*

Yep!

OK, ya wiseacre, that’s a heck of a lotta work! I was younger once but older than that now. So I just buy it in a box. Even if I like to cook, I’d rather spend the time on dessert, ok?

especially mine. she’s still feisty at 75 and hasn’t slowed down a lick. i learned a long time ago not to mess with her.

The overnight soaking and next day rinsing is good . . you can SEE the release of products on the surface in the morning.

Yes indeed. I’m convinced soaking is key. Kombu seaweed is new to me.

hmmmm desserts hmmmm

Woo Hoo back to the 60′s I do remember those days well.. People in the street and everything. But now we will be demonstrating against Corporte bought congress and SCOTUS!

There ARE no bad batches . . . spoiled is spoiled flavor, not hardness.

Either undersoaked, or under cooked . . . acids have nothing to do with beans being hard.

30 years in the biz, trust me . . *G*

Sea salt is amazing – so smooth. Totally different product than Mortons :-)

I think they cooked about 8 hours, plus being soaked the previous night. I could have gotten a really old old batch that was rock hard.

i’m resisting the siren call of a cherry topped (no chocolate) boston cream cake surrounded by real whipped cream that’s in the fridge.

So one really cool thing about the good doctor is he is donating all the raised funds to the state party. So he is still on our side. Sadly, the state party bosses are sorta crappy now. But, we are still the boss of them, and we are going to be letting them know. They got a little message from us tonight, something we put together in just a few hours. Give us a week, uh oh.

I’m sure everyone here wants to know and say the same things he will hear from us. I will let you know.

and kosher is different than sea and mortons. i’m enjoying learning about salts (esp since ce started talking about salts)

i’m looking forward to hearing about it

OK, that is not nice. I’m pretty sure my tigers are ready for some snuggling about now. They already wonder why the schedule has gone awry tonight.

So have some damn cake. You really are a super hostess, thanks!

Whelp. China is imposing an anti-dumping tax on American chicken and chicken products. The rate is 105%. I’m curious to see if chicken gets cheaper here now.

But but the pleasure is in the doing and the reward is in the eating good healthful food you make yourself… Been doing it all my life. Right now I have been slow cooking a pork shoulder in onions, garlic and chicken stock and will make a rice dish with it once it all falls off the bones… My Chaplin Friend back in New Hampshire made it for us when we visited them last summer

laughing — thanks bg — back in a flash! tell the tigers thank you for sharing ya tonight — always a pleasure

Is there any way of recording it or is that out of the question?

Oh yeah, I’d like to see him on the air as much as possible-any plans to do more media?

Been there long ago, for simple . . . n for a LONG time now (30 years or more) I have to stretch a little . . . that’s what kept me goin in the biz, and now.

Simple is good, but it bores my palate . . . gotta have flavors!!!!!

*G*

Tuscany white beans, with Italian bacon/ham or smoked Ital Hocks, garlic, onions, rosemary, some white wine, chicken stock (made from scratch), a little EVOO early on . . . simmered down, s n p, a little fresh heavy cream and fresh sweet butter . . .

A bed for some elegant slow roasted smoked pork shoulder, sliced thin, on top . . . a find dice of red onion and fresh Roma tomato seasoned with sea salt, green pepper corns, sprinkle of EVOO and balsamic vinegar and some baked then grilled Polenta cake brushed with EVOO/roasted garlic . .

Madonna mia!!!! Mangiamo dia Bono!!!!

hey fenestrate — how ya doing tonight?

I mean it about the hostess part, really and truly.

So Dean will be here on Tuesday, I will report back.

All those kittehs on the bed say g/night.

See you soon!

We have been using sea salt for years, love to try exotic ones from all over the world from white to red to black they all taste different.

Yes. And relatively inexpensive for the most part.

Yep. I have been told we need the iodine that’s in the processed salts, and NOT in the seasalts, because of goiter.

I gotta believe there’s another way to get iodine in us . . . LOVE my sea salts! *G*

whereas as i’ve aged i’ve grown more fond of the simple fare. used to do fussy cooking all the time (flourless chocolate cakes, greek lasagna etc) but now i’m more fond of the simple.

Hagan Daz Butter Pecan…

g’nite and thank you. i’ll be here tues nite :)

:D Keeping on keeping on. Now snow here in Dayton yet. How are you doing Suz? And big hi to everyone here tonight.

Ok, NOW you got my attention!!!

Wow, that’s just wierd, and beyond anything I ever encountered!

Ever googled that up? That’s incredible, thanks for detailing it out for me!

Definitely too wierd . . my bad to doubt ya on THAT one!!!

Break a tooth that way!!! ;-)

if i didn’t have a mouthful of this great cake i would say not fair but instead i’m just gonna say mmmmm

congrats sunny

Some seaweeds are high in iodine.

They are mad about the US selling weapons to Taiwan!! They play hard ball,, We must play the same game and put a 100% tax on all imports from China… There take that you you Chinese!

WHAT?!?!?!?

Are you CRAZY?

Break that sucker out and let’s get to eating!!!!

*G*

(let’s, notice the let’s)

enjoy!

What’s kosher salts and how dif from sea salts? Besides the rabbi’s blessing, that is . . .

i’m doing well fenestrate thank you. this cake really is yummy

Did I hear Sushi????

sorta in between the two in my estimation. larger grain than regular but not as big as sea.

Well that came out of nowhere, with an insult, no less.

But I got a frig freeze I’d stock full if prices drop and I don’t care why.

There seems to be lots of talk about gray salt of late… perhaps from Belgium?

Nonni used to put this huge board in the middle of the table, fill it with polenta, cover that with thick meat sauce, Meatballs, cubed beef, and pigs feet. Then everyone just grabbed a fork and met in the middle. Now dat’s Italiano!

So, Italian? Mexican? Southwest?

Where’s the seasonings and regional influences?

*G*

Says here hard water might be the problem, or part of it.

’bout time for me to toddle off folks. thank you for the music, food and conversations tonight.

g’nite all

LOL not from me. Even though I spent a lot of my childhood in England, I never learned to like fish. Lobster, crab sure, love it….but not the scaly variety of sea creatures.

You can add seaweed to soups and what not to up the nutritional value and it even helps to thicken it up some.

I’ve not used the red or black, do you know where they come from country wise?

OK, I am going, but I think if he allows it that it will be on line b/c DFNM is hosting it and they post lots of videos. Above at 22 I was mentioning my friends who are often among the FDL FB fans photos, and Barb from DFNM has her picture there often, but not tonight.

We have been in the trenches together since 2004, working on the NM Dem party.

The Salt Works has a list of different sea salts to peruse.. and some sources..

Huh, go figger . . . diversity!! ;-)

And echo what BigBro said, you ARE the best hostess, online, ever . . . *G*

(most tolerant, too) ;-)

Sounds great, bg. Thanks for all the info and give ‘em hell!

Nite Suz, thank you so much :)

This one has Iodine in it

Hmm THAT can get used into some of my Japanese stuff, including Yosenabe, THANKS!!!

Sorry I kinda jumped on ya a few coments ago, my bad . . .

And again, that seaweed thang is kewl and I have a good international Asian store locally . . .

Licks lips, NEW stuff to play with!!!!

I’d rather have cheap chicken!!!!

lol

Thanks Suzanne.

Indeed. Lots of talk about iodized salt and goiters when I was a child.

Seaweed was a major source of iodine before 1959. Seaweed is a significant source for iodine in the diets of many people around the world.

For many of iodine’s uses, there is no adequate substitute. For example, other substances cannot replace its applications in pharmaceuticals, and human and animal nutrition.

Ah, sizing . . . interesting . . . the Kosher thang.

Lord I’m dyin here . . . DIA BONO!!!

*G*

Yer nonni, she knows food!!!

Nice, very, very nice . . .

Wow, that’s some stuff I’ve never heard of . . . thanks!

Thanks :-)

That is a very interesting article.

It was delicious and they let us drink vino cut with water at 5 years old. Very traditional.

Damn, I worked with two good chefs in my time, one French, one Italian.

This was late 70′s and early 80′s.

They NEVER had on hand or talked about salts to this detail!

That’s a great link, Nahant, and bookmarked!

Now to chase some of that stuff down!!!

*G*

Yer such a hoss . . .

I learn so much every time I come to this place!!!

Thanks for the info!!!

I love this town . . .

Ooooh, that reminds me. I want to get some Kimchi (not sure of the spelling) I’ve never had it. I love hot-n-spicy foods and I love sauerkraut so maybe I’ll like it too.

And now I’m getting hungry.

Pentagon to stock health facilities with morning-after pill

The Department of Defense will begin making the morning-after pill Plan B available at all of its hospitals and health clinics around the world, officials announced Thursday.

The decision came after a recommendation by the Pentagon’s Pharmacy and Therapeutics Committee, an advisory panel that voted in November to include Plan B and the generic Next Choice on the list of drugs all military facilities should stock. The Pentagon accepted the recommendation Feb. 3, a spokeswoman said.

Well it is some changes BO are making end an era where woman’s reproductive health was blocked by BushCo!! Pious asses all those Religious cretins that force their morals on the rest of us! Just who the Fuck do they think they are. Maybe we should limit thier brand of religion they sure do deserve it!

In coastal and island greek tavernas, we were always served a pitcher of water with the wine and we diluted it by a quarter or third.

Was a very good thing – dinner lasted for hours and oceans of local wines were consumed. My impression was that children were served wine, but I’m not sure.

Heh, kimchee, pickled hot cabbage, Korean style, comes in all kinds of heatness.

It’s like using chili seco (dried bell peppers), chili passila (still a bit sweet, perfect for stuffing and grilling), chili serrano (I LOVE serrano’s, not too hot, but can be MADE hot), chili jalapeno (getting too hot for me and my wife and loses flavors), or chili habanero (the Scotch Bonnet Pepper), that orange sucker that will make most folks lose hair, choke and spew and writhe on the ground for hours.

Kimchee has degrees . . . I LOVE kimchee!!! *G*

But not the hottest one’s . . . no flavor! Just heat.

I LIKE the taste of a good heat, but when the heat exceeds the taste? It’s a waste! lol

Did ya check out the smoked sea salts Larue?? Make for some interesting cooking.

Gotta admit, at first glance this is a bonus for our women soldiers, but why don’t the MEN get contraception aids?

Ok, fine, condoms . . . sure, ages old for our military.

But how many male soldiers WANT or WILL use condoms?

Again, the women are best off if THEY assume the burden of protection . .

And the damned morning after pill don’t protect against STD’s, much less HIV or AIDS.

Seems good, but at the core, don’t address the male behavior or responsibility.

Yes, better than BushCo . . agreed . . . I’ll let women judge, guess I shouldn’t be talking for their needs and issues.

Yeah, saw that, and I agree just from DESIRE to try them!!!

You used them, for smoking, grilling, or marinating?

Talk to me, make me drool . . .*G*

Thanks for the tip on heat versus flavor. I didn’t realize it comes in a variety. Sorta like chili I guess. I’m a jalapeño muncher but as I get older I tend to downgrade now to banana peppers or pepper-citos.

Now I can’t wait to try kimchee. I feel a new vice coming on. :D

Not a dish to be consumed before changing company… *g*

But your heart is in the right place Larue. We gotta protect the ladies in our lives.And I for one who is sick of some pompous ass tell the women in this country how they can take care of their own body, I mean it IS theirs isn’t it??? I Mean WTF WTF WTF!!!

Yeah, I should have added that everyone is different, and I know folks who can chew a Habanero, pickled or not, and not sweat . . . capsaicin tolerent they are!!!

I haven’t tried the smoked ones yet but…. soon, their prices aren’t too steep. I have been given a sampling of about ten different type many on sale at the Salt Works( funny when I type that I think of the BIG Salt Piles at the old salt works in RWC…

Roger that, start to finish and to infinity, hoss . . .

I think so, Sunny. Went out with a Greek girl and her family gave the kids wine cut with water, too.

Have them try some Caribbean Reds.Dried samples of Caribbean Red measured 445000 Scoville units whereas regular habanero tested at about 260000 Scovilles. This pepper must be used carefully, ….. makes a Habanero seem mild..

I’m droolin at the flavor and possibilities . . . lemme know!

Hmm, high end David Berkeley’s is just down the road, I hate going there cuz of the prices for the shit I read about culinary stuff that’s always growing by leaps and bounds . . . same with Trader Vic’s . . and all the big box boutique gourmet stores . . . create a need and fill it, capitalist fucks . . ;-)

THIS place, is just around the corner from us . . . we’ve been there once, treated by a special friend.

$125 to get in the door, more for wines and such.

AWESOME FOOD, and I talked my ass off to the owner, the chef de cuisine, and others the time we went. They liked me! I think . . . question after question I had on product, procedure to buy, store, prep and use . . staffing, and on and on I blatherd that night.

The Kitchen.

I went back a few times to speak with the Chef du Cuisine, Noah . . . caught him early afternoons out the back door, gave him my homemade pesto once, and a whole FULL baggie of homegrown rosemary I clipped.

He dug that, talked to me about how he got started, and such . . . like me, no formal schooling, learned on the job, moved up thru things and at 25 got a chance to begin work with The Sellands. Took it from there!

Hard work. Damn it’s hard, long hours, no vacation, no classes, no furthering yerself outside the biz work.

Still.

That’s a new one for me, I know of the Scotch Bonnet, but it’s a habanero, for all intent.

I give up!!! Too hot for me!

Gimme Chili Serrano, roasted, for flavor!!!!

Well Nahant, Pups awake . . . I gotta run . . .

As always, Suz the best hostess, and you folks the best Pups to play with on LLN.

Thanks for all the company and chats, be well, and the best to you and yours from me and mine.

*poof*

But what it does for a good Chili!! Just one or two in a 16 quart batch and the heat is on, but I keep the flavor my friends always come back for seconds and thirds.. course they are sweating like pigs..

Nice! & Nite Larue.. I am outa here also.. nite other Pups..

Nite larue and nahant. This has been fun. Just realized nobody mentioned the garlic in kimchee — in korea one must eat it in self defense.

i also put soaked sliced strips of kombu in a heavy pot with a little water and vegetables like parsnips, carrots, winter squash and yams cut into big pieces and steamed slow for maybe a half hour or 45 minutes. sooooo tender and yummy. i add a little tamari (soy sauce) at the end for flavoring.

Larue I once could get kimchi from traveling procesers of the coast of Alaska. We would trade two sixpack of bud for two quarts of kimchi. That was the best mid -mild kimchi that i ever have had. It was home made and ohhhhhh soooo good.