It might have taken the president over half an hour to get around to pushing health care insurance reform in his first State of the Union address, but it took a senator from his own party less than half a day to push it right back:
Landrieu takes swipe at Obama over health care
(CNN) – President Obama is taking heat from a Senate Democrat over how he dealt with the issue of health care in his first State of the Union speech.
“I think the president should have been more clear about a way forward on health care last night,” Sen. Mary Landrieu told reporters on Capitol Hill Thursday. “I’m hoping in the next week or two he will be, because that’s what it’s going to take if it’s at all possible to get this done.”
“Mailing in general suggestions, sending them over the transom is not necessarily going to work,” the Louisiana Democrat added.
Setting aside the “Democrats in disarray” trope that establishment scribes have been pushing since Will Rodgers wore short pants—and acknowledging that Mary Landrieu has been less than helpful for most of this effort—I’m going to take the Senator’s statement at face value and say, “You know what? I agree.”
President Obama used about six minutes of his speech to once again paint in broad strokes why there is a need for serious reform, but beyond referring to “the plan we’ve proposed” (and which plan is that, anyway?), he did not detail what “serious reform” now—after a year of wrangling—means. Beyond saying, “Do not walk away from reform. Not now. . . . Let’s get it done. Let’s get it done,” Obama did not give Congress any direction on what, where, or how to move forward.
This is not news, I suppose. The White House has spent this last year insulating the president from the grit and grime of the health reform battle, thinking that if Obama stayed above the fray, he would be seen as more presidential—or at least would retain that “new car smell” and those lofty approval numbers.
Of course, that did not turn out to be the result of this rose-garden strategy. Matters were not helped by the fact that Rahm Emanuel and the administration’s political team didn’t even make it to the White House rose garden, opting instead for behind-closed-doors negotiations, and cold-hard-cash political deals cut with relevant industry and union leaders. Rather than looking presidential, Obama was, at best, invisible. And, as America soured on the drawn-out process of getting to “yes” on the president’s signature issue, they naturally soured on the president—and his party—as well.
Now, midterms are on the horizon, and the writing is on the wall. Congressional Democrats are tired of carrying water for the White House, and Representatives are feeling especially soaked. The House sent up a bill, only to see it—and any possibility that their bill might be part of a negotiation with the Senate—disappear, first into the black hole of Connecticut, and then under fallout of an electoral A-bomb a few miles north. The Representatives had put it out there for the president, more or less, and the president left it flapping in the breeze.
So, it is not really a surprise to see a myriad of stories about the lack of urgency felt by Congressional Democrats. Health care reform, right now, symbolizes dithering and dysfunction; after a year of being in what most Americans see as complete control of the Federal Government, Democrats are looking for issues that will provide immediate, tangible benefits for their constituencies. It is not so much that health reform no longer floats, but it is not smooth sailing, and it is without a good tail wind—and the destination is not at all clear.
It doesn’t help Democrats—or Obama’s standing with them—that Rahm is also leaking left and right that maybe health reform is no longer a top priority. Instead, it only underscores for those in Congress, and for voters everywhere, that Rahm’s boss talks pretty, but has no interest in showing anyone his stick.
Thus, it is not unexpected to hear Senator Landrieu asking for a little more visibility on the part of Obama. Her “swipe” could be part of her ConservaDem strategy, but it could easily be seen as an embattled Senator saying “Time to put your neck out there, Mr. President. We legislators have been taking hits for you since last summer. Stop pretending it is our fault that you don’t have a bill. Sack up and get dirty.”
The House is in election-year mode, the Senate has already cashed their health-sector donations, and Rahm thinks if you withdraw from a fight at the 11th hour, then it doesn’t count as a loss. But American voters have a different view; they voted for a president who promised to get involved. If you want to lead, and want to be looked at as a leader, then you have to put yourself out there. If you want health care reform—really want it—Mr. President, stand up, risk some capital, stake your claim, show your flag. . . be seen. Let’s get it done.
Let’s get it done.



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I think for that the most disappointing aspect of this whole presidency (I had low expectations going in) has been the near complete absence of real leadership on his part.
Kwatz!
Leadership just wouldn’t be pragmatic, you know. It’s too much like sticking your neck out.
Obama met with Republicans today and spanked ‘em good in front of cameras. Won’t accomplish anything but gave his remaining supporters something to feel good about.
Style over substance don’t do it for me.
White House:
Damn we’re weak.
Goopers:
Works for us.
So-Called Moderate Democrats:
Score!
I did rather enjoy that, but I still want to see actions, not words, and results, not promises.
Rahman noodles has blinders on as usual.
It is hard to see your way forward with your head up some corporate CEO’s ass.
Yep, he’d have to radically change course to win me over. Not holding my breath.
Buddy Hackett had a joke about a guy with a penis growing out of his forehead. I don’t remember the details but his main complaint was that he couldn’t see because the balls were hanging over his eyes.
In light of Rahm being a total dickhead I think something similar could account for his lack of perception.
If he actually did even half of what he promises or has promised in the past, I might be able to work up a little enthusiasm. Unfortunately, when the best I can say is “better than McCain or Bush,” it does not generate excitement.
And now, for something completely different . . .
For me the problem is not so much that he doesn’t deliver what he promised, that just makes him a typical pol… It is that what he does deliver is the exact opposite of what he promised.
Swell video! That we have a president playing in a similar movie not so much.
Nice, I reference a filthy joke just as the clergy shows up… :-)
Hi greenwarrior. I hope your neighbors son has made good progress toward recovery.
Well, I enjoyed it – it made me laugh out loud…..
I don’t care if Mary Landrieu is right I still don’t like her.
He arrived just in time to save your soul. 8-)
The beauty of having feckless leadership is that you get to take the high ground for all the wrong reasons.
/Democrats in the Senate
He’s home, navigating stairs, making slow progress. Because of the danger of a seizure, he’s not allowed to be by himself, so his friends come and get him and take him out or to their houses for a change of scene. He’s nowhere near getting back to school yet, but he’s got a good prognosis from the doctors. (For those who hadn’t heard, my 16 year old next door neighbor landed on his head skateboarding.)
Mary, Mary, quite contrary needs to get her ass primaried hard.
Anyone can be right once. It’s not like Landrieu makes a habit of it.
Ouch! That is bad news. I fell and concussed myself a few weeks ago, but did not do much damage (too hard headed). I have had several friends who sustained mores severe brain damage and it really has a lasting effect and takes a long time for even partial recovery.
Oh geez, I thought you were talking about me.
And, unlike a stopped clock, she is lucky to right even once a day.
Ooops! I should have made that a bit clearer, though I don’t think you are running for political office?
The one thing he’s not doing opposite is the thing I am most upset about right now. Offering loans for nuclear power. Oh and commissioning a high powered commission to study the waste problem. Worst idea evah! He’s been a nuclear power advocate from back when. The opposite part here is that you don’t go enabling the commissioning of nuclear power plants BEFORE you resolve the waste problem.
I like her brother a little better but only because he has a slight personality.
bass ackwards.
F*cking Rahmbo…! Death by a thousand cuts…! 8-(
Aloha Ya’ll from the mtn. top…! ;-)
So I got that going for me… which is nice.
The parents are still covered by insurance and the boy’s getting 3 hours/day of therapy, but at some point they expect that to run out and then it’ll get much harder for them. The husband plays music and hasn’t had much work lately. She was working free lance as well, but before the accident had to get a regular job. That’s very fortunate about now that they have the insurance for now.
We Fire Pups gots to look out for one another.
Glad to hear he’s coming along. Hope the risk of seizures subsides soon. The meds they use to control those tend to take a pretty heavy toll.
Damn! Good timing, I guess, but that situation really sucks. A couple of my friends took 6 months to a year to get back to anything resembling normal (for them) functioning (a third never did) and there always was some spark missing after that. Really scary stuff.
Leadership wouldn’t necessarily be bipartisan.
So…maybe he ought to rethink the bipartisan stuff.
what kind of toll? what are the side effects? she mentioned that but was in a hurry so i didn’t ask for details.
Leadership in this context would necessarily NOT be bipartisan since the Rethugs have no interest in cooperating. He needs to stick that “bipartisan” bullshit where the sun don’t shine.
That’s hard to hear. I’m sorry about your friends. I’d guess that’s been difficult for you to see and be with. It’s hard to think that could be true for Eli too.
I seen her trying to defend her holdout vote for a backdoor deal for her State on the Senate Bill and justify it by claiming its, “the same as the one we get in Congress” Maybe the pimp phone repair guy knows whats going on.To me, Landrieu has no more credibility than Rahm.
I’ve got a new diary posted…
The nuclear plant near here began construction in the ’70s. The original cost estimates were far below $1 billion. It was completed in 1987, years behind schedule with a final cost of $2.6 billion. I shudder to think what building a plant would cost now. The following is from the plant’s wiki entry. Nice return on the investment (not).
Well, that’s what I think too. But I’m just saying…occasionally, it might be palatable to the other side, and if it’s ok with us, then go for it.
What exactly are you suggesting he should do? Should he push Congress into passing a health care bill that was basically written by the insurance companies and the health care industry?
No, unless he is really willing to “risk capital” and insist that Congress should scrap that and embrace the health care plan he and the Democrats campaigned for in 2006 and 2008, he should just allow this piece of shit legislation to die.
Then Progressives acting within and without the Democratic Party must come up with a plan to take both the White House and the Congress away from Wall Street by electing men and women that will not be bought and sold by these thieving, cynical, amoral bastards.
Let’s get that job done.
Otherwise we remain merely a variation on the same liberal mainstream media narrative that reduces all this down to Democrats versus Republicans.
The Rachel Maddow Syndrome.
Yesterday I posted a reaction to Rachel Maddow reacting to the Obama SOTU speech. It was on a Jane Hamsher thread that just disappeared from FDL.
I’d like to reinstate it here because it encapsulates [for me] the manner in which Progressives must utterly abandon the corporate media in exposing what and who Obama really represents:
Right now on Rachel Maddow, Maddow is deconstructing the SOTU. Her analysis reflects in so many sad [even pathetic] ways the utter limitations of the “liberal” attack against Obama and Wall Street.
Basically, Maddow is embracing Obama’s speech. She sets him up as someone who is truly opposed to “the banks”. She embraces the absurd narrative that all the problems in our country can be reduced down to the good Democrats versus the evil Republicans.
Complete bullshit.
Obama has amasssed sixteen million dollars from the “securities and investment” industry….over the course of a very short political career. He accepted six million dollars from the bankers for his Inaugguration galas. He stocked his economic team solely with men and women of, by and for the big banks on Wall Street.
Why does Maddow refuse to connect these dots?
Now she has Senator Robert Mennendez from New Jersey on to shore up her argument that it is the evil Republicans who facilitate Wall Street and the banks in gouging Main Street.
Here are the top ten corporate contributers to his campaigns:
Lawyers/Law Firms $2,733,877
Real Estate $1,786,146
Construction Services $1,089,649
General Contractors $964,532
Securities & Investment $891,587
Transportation Unions $535,881
Health Professionals $519,869
Insurance $491,079
Business Services $478,524
Retired $382,765
Lobbyists $380,140
How is this Congressman not just another DLC Wall Street Democrat?
I try to give Madow the benefit of the doubt here. I try to convince myself she is as fully aware of how the Bilderberg world works as I am am. I try to convince myself she is embracing Obama and the Democrats now only because she fears a BeckWorld ascendency in the Fall. Something, it can legitimately be argued is many times worse.
Maybe.
But then again maybe not. Maybe she, just like her buddy Al Franken [who just voted to reup Bernanke at the Fed] is just as duped as most other Ammericans regarding how “democracy” really unfolds between New York and Washington
If we want health care reform we can be proud of, forget trying to shame Obama into “doing the right thing”. He doesn’t give a shit about that if it means abandoning Wall Street. Progressives need to organize main street and beat back the ruling class. We need at the very least to elect men and women like Dennis Kucinich from coast to coast. Anything short of that is ultimately a loss.
He’s trying to play basketball, the GOoPers are playing keepaway, and the conservadems and Blue Dogs are playing with themselves.
He might try following through on some of those promises he made to get our votes.
He’ll have to jawbone and armtwist the Senate to get those passed, but he has the gift of speech-making, at least, and it shouldn’t be beyond his abilities.
Being President means having to stick your neck out to get things done.
I think I saw somewhere that a lot of nuclear plants in this country have been losers like that for much the same reasons (come in late and over budget). The Europeans, who use different designs, seem to do a bit better, but I really do not know much about it.
Hi, y’all late niters. Umm, not to be contrary, but I think today was a good day, and it was because the Pres. took on the House Repubs and wiped the floor with’em.
Yeah, you can call itstyle over substance, but the R’s have been winning on style way too long, and it’s been working with the average, too-busy, too-tired American. Have y’all watched it? The arrogant, condescending tones of voice in which jerks like Pence asked questions/framed talking points, versus the calm, intelligent, just-the-facts way O shot them down, was something to behold.
Not just because it was unimaginable that his predecessor could have/would have done any such thing.
It is actually getting coverage, and the R’s are being shown up for whiny ass babies with no ideas and fake “facts.”
Now, I’d like to see the same with the Blue Dogs, but I am going to take this good day and enjoy it. If this Late Nite is gonna be all about the downside, I guess I won’t be staying.
And I hope you know, I have been very disappointed with the Pres lately. But credit where it’s due, and let’s see if we can keep it going.
You mean this one?
The Goopers are playing demolition derby.
It was a good moment and I would like to see a lot more of this, but I still want to see some freaking action. I note that the PBS News Hour only had one Republican Representative on to give his reaction to the whole thing (there aren’t any Congressional Democrats available?).
Hah. When somebody starts a long ranting comment with a conspiracy-like complaint implying “censorship” by FDL, I know I can safely skip the rest of it since it will bs “supported” by more bs.
I don’t know what they use now, hopefully something better. About 30 years ago a car turned in front of a coworker’s motorcycle throwing him headfirst into the windshield (no helmet). He was actually declared dead at the scene but was subsequently revived. He defied the odds when he awoke from a two month coma. He had been a brilliant and talented young man working part time in a fast food restaurant to earn a few dollars while going to college. He eventually was able to return to work but I doubt if he ever returned to his studies, he was not the same person. Anyway, he had to take large doses of phenobarbital to reduce the risk of seizures.
Needless to say, his family was completely devastated.
I’ve often wondered if the drugs were partly responsible for his cognitive impairment and hope he improved in time.
I agree, too. There are only so many shovels…
Yeah, I clicked over to NewsHour a few times, and never saw anything on it. That’s why I stuck with Keith and Rachel – I had only caught a tiny bit of it live. That’s why I never watch NewsHour anymore.
I don’t think the MSM can completely ignore it. According to a TPM commenter, even the MSM tweets were expressing how O blew away the R’s.
Of course, that may not be followed up on their shows, but it’s a start.
I’ve been so upset, and there are still plenty of things to be upset about, that I’m glad to take the opportunity to be happy about something. I can go back to pointing out all the disappointments later.
Agreed.
Time for me to toddle off. Take care all.
Sleep well.
Aloha, Dr. D…!
16 degrees, windchill 1 above (better than last night, so far). Wish you were here, CT?
goodnight dr. d.
Brrrrr. Checked thermometer on patio while taking out garbage just now:
40 degrees. Big brrrrrrr here in So Texas. (Can never remember, ratfood, where are you?)
Tried to persuade the elderly feral cat I feed to come in … she takes a couple steps inside – came all the way in in last night’s rain — then backs right out again.
It’s supposed to go down to – wait for it, northerners – 31 degrees tonight. Shiver.
That’s really sad. I had no idea the long-term results could be so far-reaching or lasting. Thanks for sharing that.
Thugs are sure putting Pence out there front and center these days. Backfired today when he tried the tough presidential pose with Obama. Looked more like James Brolin on West Wing.
Hi, gw – so sorry to hear about your neighbor’s son. I hope he’s one of the lucky ones.
It’s no bed of roses up here…! ;-)
Nice comparison. Yes, one site I saw described Pence as a possible 2012 pres. candidate. My jaw dropped. He’s surely – well, I was going to say – one of the dumbest R’s in Congress — but newer reps like Bachmann and what’s her name with the long rambling talkingpoint question today? and deMint, and oh god, so many, may have raised him quite a bit on the ranking of Congressional republicans.
Not that that’s saying much.
Not my intention to paint a dreary picture for your neighbor. Sounds like his injury while quite serious is much less severe than the one I described. Evidently he has made excellent progress and hopefully a complete recovery will be attained soon. Sending positive thoughts his way.
Is that snow in that top picture????
I’m in central Illinois.
What you are doing for your feral kitty is wonderful. Do you know where she shelters outdoors? Maybe you can add some enhancements to make it a little cozier. Wouldn’t want to alter it so much it puts her off it, though.
That would be correct, however, that’s an old photo… No snow on the ground right now, but, we’re anticipating ‘Frozen Fog’ tonight…!
yeah, Blackburn from Tennessee. If you timed that question, it would come close to two minutes. When Obama tried to answer twice, she just kept rolling. Then he started dissing her by reading the hard copy talking points that orange man gave him. Very funny.
Not to turn this into Caturday, but…yes, her shelter arrangements are less than they used to be (my landlord closed up the entrance to the crawlspace where she was born and used to take shelter). But there are now two disabled cars in the parking area, with walls on two sides, and she hides under one of them, basks in the sun between them.
In the last cold snap, when I couldn’t get her in, and couldn’t afford to make one of the feral cat villas, I got a snuggly cat bed and tucked it under the car. Tried it out by my door first, and saw her get out of it, so I’m hoping she uses it. I’ve found gray fur in it when checking on it.
She also has somewhere else in the neighborhood; couldn’t find her all day today, and the other day she came in from a different direction. She didn’t get to be 20+ yrs old without learning a lot of tricks.
Looks like you have a nice brisk windchill. Freezing fog can be a real hassle.
Oh, yeah, I remember. Could not believe the woman talked over the president of the united states.
She’s a survivor, which means she’s an opportunist. I’m certain she appreciates what you’re doing.
Going to call it a night, best wishes to all.
Forgot my links, if anyone is interested:
http://www.communitycatsmd.org/files/cat_shelter_brochure.pdf
and
http://www.feralvilla.com/
Night, rat. Yup–she’s a sweetie, and has warmed up to me since I took over her feeding. Actually “talks” to me now, lets me pet her, quite friendly. To me. Anyone else approaches, she takes to the hills. So to speak.
Say good night to Bob for us.
Here’s my telescope…!
Wow, those are great ideas.
Impressive.
I love the web. Became a net addict because of stuff just like this. *g*
Aloha, Rat…! Give Bob some pumpkin seeds for me…! ;-)
There’s a red streak at one point that kind of looks like a laser. Is that just some sort of digital capture artifact or are you folks playing real life Space Invaders?
Will do, he loves ‘em. Big fan of chow, period.
With Brown’s win, the democrats lose the supermajority whenever he is seated. The MA seat currently is a guaranteed “yes” on most(all) democratic issues.
The HCR negotiation is pretty much into reconciliation – 51 votes is 51 votes whenever they do it. Doesn’t it make sense to set that aside for a couple weeks and work like the dickens to get as many other bills needing a party-line vote to pass cranking through legislature before Brown is seated?
Heh, that would be the laser… from the ‘Death Star’…! ;-)
Night Rat
Screw that…! Once it’s set aside, that’ll be the end of it…! Btw, as to the upcoming legislation there’s one really simple solution… Make Them Filibuster…! Roll out those cots, babee…! ;-)
Hell with the resident, Barack o’Useless. Now is the time for the progressives in the house to introduce bills banning recission, regulating medical loss ratios, and allowing drug reimportation. The insurance companies are on the floor here, let’s MOVE people!
Fuck you, Rahm!
Yes, now that the Scott election in Mass. has shown Obama just how incensed voters are at Wall Street, he decides to become Obama The Candidate again.
Basically, his narrative now is “trust me. I only embraced Wall Street last year because otherwise the whole economy would have imploded, making things even worse for Main Steet. But now that Wall Street has been rescued by Main Street, it’s time to do right by the desparate folks who write me everyday from Main Street pouring out their pain and hardships.”
Yeah, right.
If he does anyhting at all in that direction it will be because Main Street forces him to. Deep down inside he is of, by and for Wall Street. These are his people by and large. He is one of them. These are the people he se,lected to run his administration. These are the people he sleeps with in Congress.
Regarding economic and foreign policy he is just an extention of Bush.
But if over the next year he seems to genuinely go in the other direction instead, I’ll be the first to own up to it and admit I am wrong.
ES has LLN on tap…!
Yes, that one.
Thursday evening, Jane posted this. I responded to it. Then again. But when I clicked on FDL and went down the different posts, it was gone.
It was deleted to the best of my knowledge.
If the post was deleted, the link to it would not have worked.
It was an “Action” post, and is still available for commenting, as you can see at the bottom.
Mr. Gregg, I think the proof is in the putting, to date.
We will get the best of the corporate interests, and the worst of the people’s interests, for HCR.
If you have any thoughts and proof, other wise, I’d be delighted to entertain them.
Till then, we’re apparently fucked, as Pelosi has dumped us and the Public Option, in every sense, despite the MSM spins.
The PO is dead, the middle class is dead, and fuedalist capitalism and corporate facism is the norm.
Lemme know how you don’t see that. I’ll be interested to hear your points of view.
And yes, I’m disgruntled, more than a bit.
Many of you have have commented how refreshing this was, yes it was.
One of the things I always missed in US politics is how you remove the POTUS from directly confronting political issues despite the reality that he (and its always a HE to date) is a political animal. I know many US Americans wax lyrical about THE written constitution that many foreigners know more about than the average US citizen and throw it back at all and sundry who dare express dismay at US American politics but you have an established tradition of shielding the POTUS from having to take a lead upfront to make clear where he stands regarding national priorities, policies and strategies to confront issues that stand in the way.
This one was good to watch because Obama is intellectually head and shoulders above his opposition and he demonstrated that with the appeareance of never even trying to spin – the spin was there but very modulated in contrast to the ideological ideocies touted by the GOP who really were not that bright.
The world at large appreciates Obama, because it sees Obama as a symbolic coming of age of the MLK dream and an end to a horribly insensible era that a lot of the world watched as Monty Python came alive and justices decreed that ballots cast should not be counted.
I comment very occasionally but I take an interest. You do need to wheel out Obama in publicly available forums because he is a good communicator/talker (he can certainly talk beautifully) and in his responses he, almost inadvertently, enunciates his vision that he does not successfully do behind closed doors but also, in this context, his town hall forums re health care were incoherent – Rahm Emmanuel was not a competent COS.
Also, making him confront publicly his opposition may give him the balls/cojones (you say that in the US because you have a very sexist zeitgeist that is reflected in your linguistic nomenclature) – courage to confront obstructionism
All I can do is relate my own experience. The thread existed. Then it did not. It may have been something I did. If so, I am wrong and I apoligize for suggesting otherwise. I responded to the post. Then when I clicked on FDL later I could not find it. I was able to respond again only becasue I had created an icon on my screen.
You might try clearing your cache. No guarantees, though.
Good luck.
Our situation is that our politicians including Obama are bought and sold by campaign cash from corporations, who are motivated solely by extracting profit from us. Obama is nothing but a sockpuppet for these interests.
They all are the world over and the US is no exception but you do need to have the POTUS confront the issues in public – that does force him to enunciate his policy priorities and establish leadership – you just have to stop treating the office of the POTUS as a simulacram of the chinese and japanese emperors who never took any responsibilities to avoid accountabilitiy.
I am not being too critical, there is Blair (bliar) in the UK who does not convince anybody in a country which is not overtly religious and he can spin beyond reason but nobody believes him bc he was yesterday.
Mnay have suggested in other threads that Blair would not dare to visit continental Europe in case of being hauled to the Hague – they ignore that the EU ambit includes the UK.
Another o/t issue I find disconcerting is that most US Americans are totally illiterate re Parliamentary inquiries and whether witnesses appearing are under oath – they are in that they have to answer to an inquiry instigated by the Parliament. That does not mean that these inquiries/investigations are not politically manipulated – far from it, the investigators belong to a tribal class who are invested in preserving the caste system.
I have spent 6+ years in the US and know its politics well – I am a Brit/Aussie with permanent residence rights in Canada.
Obama does not confuse me but worries me that he will betray his potential to settle to be a token and please nobody – that worries me.
I agree. The political show in DC is just a Kabuki dance, the deals are all made on K street where the bag men deliver the payments.
Obama’s MO is very clear: 1) promote neocon policies behind closed doors, 2) placate your base with speeches and political theater, 3) repeat.
The Chronicles of Rahm, a satyre:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVYugB5uy-o
Term limits would help but you people never seem to want to support that option.