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Wishful thinking, Tanman.
“There’s not a seat in America held by a Democrat that can’t be won. Massachusetts proves that,” Boehner said this morning during an interview on Fox News. [...] “I handed Nancy Pelosi the gavel the past two congresses, I think it’s time for her to hand me the gavel,” he said.
Mmm-hmmm. Because Massachusetts, like the rest of the country, just can’t wait to turn the country back over to the GOP.
GOP policies prove even less popular [than the Obama administration's], with 58 percent of Massachusetts voters saying they are dissatisfied or angry about what Republicans in Congress are offering.
Ouch. But surely MA was a referendum on Obama, right?
Obama also remains popular in Massachusetts. More than six in 10 of those who voted approve of his job performance, with 92 percent of Coakley’s voters expressing satisfaction, along with 33 percent of Brown’s. More than half of Brown’s backers say Obama was not a factor in their vote.
Scott Brown won because the economy sucks and Democratic voters weren’t motivated to vote, for a variety of reasons.
And despite Tanman’s daydreaming about holding Pelosi’s gavel, there is no evidence that Brown’s election indicates Americans are clamoring for the Tanman to return as Speaker of the House, any time soon.
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So now it’s the moronic Dem vs. GOP baloney again? Some people never learn. Vote either way and the same people win. Hasn’t the Obrahma fiasco taught you people anything?
Unfortunately, while BT’s right to mock the notion that Americans “just can’t wait to turn the country back over to the GOP,” BT also points out that the Democrats haven’t motivated their own base to get out and support them.
That leaves us with GOP victories come Nov.
And then there’s this from Politico:
Marion Berry to announce retirement.
Another Arkansas Dem is bowing out, this one in a district won by McCain in ’08. Not good.
But I think what Boehner says is true. It’s not because the public likes the GOP, but because they dislike what the Democrats are doing. As you yourself say: “Scott Brown won because the economy sucks and Democratic voters weren’t motivated to vote, for a variety of reasons” – as this applies not just in Coakley’s district, but every other district as well.
Just who might “you people” be in this instance?
And what are your remedies?
Did you catch what Berry relayed that Obama said about the midterms – talk about narcissism!
If Massachusetts proves that, it also proves that there is not a seat in America held by a Republican that can’t be won. It depends on how intense the anti-incumbent mood is. And whether Democrats field candidates for all seats at stake. (Well they haven’t because they passed on a number of seats in Texas, including Louis Goehmert’s)
Yeah, I’m getting mighty tired of being referred to as “you people.” I’m not real fond of those who like to play authoritarian with me.
I just took a look around to see if I could find it. What did he say?
Yes this is what we are left with every election cycle, a choice between Dumb and Dumber. If we had a major 3rd party it would just devolve as one of the previous parties mentioned or the new one for the title of Dumbest.
I would agree with that too. The voters are unhappy with incumbents of all stripes.
its really more like orangeman. i know he didnt graduate from syracuse, hes not an Irish Protestant or a member of the Dutch Royal familly, he just appears Orange in normal, yellow earth-light
He’s the Great Pumpkin.
This is exactly what the Repubs want us to think – nothing is wrong – no need to look into it – the Massachusetts folks voted for Brown because they really want Obama’s agenda. November is going to be a bloodletting.
I’m not sure kafka meant anything more than that he or she will not support a two-party system.
Frankly, this fiasco has turned me into a skeptical Democrat. For nearly twenty years, I was a reliable voter for Democrats down the line. Not anymore.
Midlife crisis ‘fake bake’. LOL
Let me tell you how 2010 will be;
There’s none for you, plenty for the GOP.
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Yeah, I�m the tanman.
Don’t ask me what I want power for,
If you don’t want to know the score.
‘Cause I�m the tanman,
Yeah, I�m the tanman.
Now my advice for those who get sick,
Declare bankruptcy real quick,
‘Cause I�m the tanman,
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And Blue Dogs are working for no one but me.
Tanman!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=El9RZvbXIj4
I see there are multiple articles related to Berry’s retirement. This is what I was talking about that Obama reportedly say:
“Well, the big difference here and in ’94 was you’ve got me.”
http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0110/Berry_Obama_said_big_difference_between_10_and_94_is_me.html
November is going to be a bloodletting if Obama doesn’t make an immediate and radical course correction…which (it appears) he is not going to do.
If the President (and by extension, the party) wants to mitigate the possibility of a November slaughter, he should immediately accept the resignations of Geithner and Summers. For starters.
Do you suppose “The Boner” gets quantity discounts on his spray tan? I mean, he must go through a few cases a week. Maybe he’s a silent partner in a tanning salon?
What we got that we did not have in ’94 was a wake up call.
It’s properly “We the People.” Republicans have lost sight of that.
AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Blue Texan and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
“And despite Tanman’s daydreaming about holding Pelosi’s gavel, the is no evidence that Brown’s election indicates Americans are clamoring for the Tanman returning as Speaker of the Hopuse anytime soon.”
The American people are certainly not clamoring for a return to fascist control of the Congress but Rahm Emmanuel is a master of the craft of splintering the Democratic Party base and implementing and governing with minority government. ObamaRahma can in fact turn the House back to the Republicans but it will mean the end of the Obama Presidency and the end of corporatism in the Democratic Party.
Make no mistake, Citizen Blue Texan, the politics of healthcare has led us to a game of chicken between Obama’s corporate masters and the progressive base of the Democratic Party in the House of Representatives. ObamaRhama can get the healthcare bill killed and it will cost the Democrats the House of Representives (temporarily) but it will also kill Obama’s Presidency and the structure of the Democratic Party will be far more progressive and democratic than it’s been since FDR was alive. Rahm is tryin ta replay 1994 but this time the elected Democrats aren’t walkin’ the plank for the bastard.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION…THIS IS ALL ABOUT CORPORATE WARS OF EMPIRE!!!
I believe the main stream media folks are “right of center” ;as I hear that term so much these days and really don’t know what it stands for. I think they want to use this moment to move President Obama further to the right. I think the President’s problems are he has allowed the “center right” folks in Congress water down what he campaigned on in 2008. That is why he is losing the independents, because he is not delivering on his campaign promises. He needs to fight the Republicans and not let them get away with the nonsense they have been dissiminating. They are using the big lie technique and are cashing in on it. Harry Reid is not a leader and has problems in Nevada. He needs to give the Majority Ldr job to someone who has backbone and conviction and let Senator Reid try and salvage his seat. I like Speaker Pelosi and she has done a great job and is getting knocked by the main stream media because she is not “right of center” but actually is standing for something. I applaud her.
Well, it does serve as an indicator of how much credence I should give to the corresponding rant.
It’s undoubtedly true. If Democrats were motivated, Brown would’ve had no chance.
…it does serve as an indicator of how much credence I should give to the corresponding rant.
I look at it as a timesaver.
When I read “you people”, I know that I can immediately stop reading that comment and move right on to the next one.
If *Martha Coakley* was motivated, Brown would have had no chance.
I couldn’t believe that, twice, during her concession speech, she mentioned that she had been out campaigning for the entire weekend (!) before the election.
Fierce competitor, she
iswas.Mediocre candidate, too much of the back of the hand to the base, lousy economy, etc., etc.
The economy sucks because of decisions made by the Bush administration. The economy sucks because the GOP fought investment in economic stimulus.
Remind me, what is the GOP health care plan?
very good!
Scott Brown went to great lengths to avoid telling general election voters he was a Republican. Just look at his website, for starters. Try to find the word “Republican” any where on the front page.
No I didn’t–please provide link!!!
Sorry if this has been posted:
Is it possible Scott Brown DIDN’T win Massachusetts?
http://www.bbvforums.org/cgi-bin/forums/board-auth.cgi?file=/8/80830.html
Your right that we got the wake-up call. And the polling is making it pretty loud but the Dems are so tone deaf at this point is seems they may sleep right through it.
We should start calling for a complete boycott of donations to all Dem incumbents and Dem related PAC’s. Boycott all 527′s that do not make clear, unambiguous statements for a real progressive and anti-corporatist agenda. That is the only thing they understand.
(my bold)
Oh, who can take tomorrow, dip it in some shit
Convince all the voters that it’s really chocolate
The Orange Man can, oh the Orange Man can
This is a chapter in a Regency romance novel.
The Senate Democrats are the clueless hero. The voters are the offended/neglected heroine. The Republicans are the villain.
The hero has repeatedly ignored the heroine and actually risked injuring her. The final straw was at the latest ball when the hero danced with her once, for show, then spent the rest of the evening talking to other people.
Then he expected her to smile and look beautiful for him while he dances all night with the villain’s daughters.
In a huff, the heroine decides she’ll show him! She goes home with the villain’s rake of a nephew. To make sure her point has a sting, she actually sleeps with the guy!
Will our hero wake up to the error of his ways and win her back?
Maybe, maybe not. But this is a romance. The heroine will never, never, never end up with the villain.
John Boehner is delusional.
And Obama? Like Prinny himself, Obama stays above the fray, appears from time to grace his subjects with his presence. Oh, and he’s a snappy dresser.
You people are mean!*G*
Not motivated?
How about fucking sick and tired of the spineless corporate dinos and president breaking nearly every election vow and being Wall Street’s lapdogs?
This post makes me wonder if Blue Texan himself is dimissing the significane of MA, or emoting on wishfull thinking?
Here’s a hint: the GOP is fucking clueless and evil. The only thing that makes them standout compared to the clueless evil dems is that at least they have a fucking spine.
Really what was missing was not her being motivated but rather her being motivating.
If she had said: I want to go to the Senate to strip the corporate givaways from that HC bill and force through a real HC bill, I and many many others would have been working for and supporting her. Instead, she said: I want to be the 60′th vote the the latest attempt by the Dem’s to sell out the American people to the corporations.
Very inspiring.
I couldn’t find Republican any where on his site…
Typical RePuke… everything they say is a lie!!
MA voters still support Obama? Yeah he’s a real personable guy that can string together several sentences making him sound like a genius compared to the Decider but his policies are an abject failure. He’s more marketing and messaging than anything of real substance. With time perhaps the MA voters and others throughout the country will see through the facade, but then what’s the alternative?
Yeah. You’d think that if “Republican” was such a hot brand, Brown would have been soaking in it. Instead, he went out of his way not to utter the R-word, except during the primaries when he needed to get past the state’s GOP primary voters.
HEY BONER………….GET OFF THE GOLF COURSE
your tan is fading
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/44/John_Boehner_golf.jpg
Every time I see “Marion Berry” I think of the former DeeCee mayor, who was among other things, a druggie, IIRC.
I’m sure he has a tanning bed in his home.
MA seems like a correctly applied rejection of both Republican and New Democrat, Chicago School market fundamentalism.
Angelo Mozilo versus John Boehner.
Two tans go in, one tan comes out.
B-b-b-bad to the Boehn.
Hello, Brother greybeard, I’m redbeard (for the moment at least). With all due respect, elder brother, shotgunning Fred Hampton in his bed, blowing kids’s brains into the laps of their fathers (as happened at Nissour Square), and our drone attacks on wedding parties and the funerals for drone-attack victims, are more exemplary how we let blood flow by the bucketful. Unless paper cuts count, no legislators will spill any blood come November, that’s what we, the cannon-fodder people, are for.
Can we please tone done the apocalyptic bloody language? It’s distorting reality beyond even metaphorical recognition. Metaphors matter. Please choose wisely.
In the DFA post-election poll, one of the questions asked of the swing voters and the stay-at-homes was who represented their interests better, Coakley or Brown. The overwhelming choice was “neither”. Someone wrote a diary about that question the other day with the particulars. Perhaps he will come by and point it out.
go to blackboxvoting.com
Mass. is starting to smell like another stolen election.
My 84 year old mother asked me if I new who paid Martha Coakley off to be such a “shitty candidate.” She is a 30 year resident of western MA and been a Democrat for at least that long.
WORD! That’s how it looks to me.
Extra points for style. Accurate and concise, which we all know to be the soul of wit.
Since I opened my big mouth, let’s look at “bloodletting” as a metaphor for November’s elections.
* catastrophic military defeat with great loss of life and blood
For the Dems to reap what they sow, I’m saying, while at home and around the world we are letting real blood flow by the bucketful, isn’t a bloodletting, it’s poetic justice.
Maybe if they promoted our general welfare, instead of just shitting on us and calling it good, just maybe there’d be something there for them to harvest in the fall. As it is, both parties expect not to grow or earn our consent from within us, but to manufacture it with advertising etc.
* leeching blood to withdraw poisons or humours from our body politic to restore a healthy balance
The historical precedent for putting this into practice isn’t good. But at least this is an organic view of being human, as opposed to “jump-start the economy” etc.
Ruh-roh, giantscauseway, that could change everything. Thanks for the tip.
That is to say http://www.blackboxvoting.org I assume.
I don’t like either party, and I don’t think it matters which one wins.
Texan and Boehner- you’re both wrong. Texan, your explanation of why Scott Brown one is oversimplified. Sure the economy (or lack thereof) has something to do with Brown’s victory but lets give credit where credit is due. Obama has really screwed things up and Democratic disenchantment is finding its way from the approval ratings to the voting booth.
But Boehner is wrong too. Surely not EVERY democratic seat is up for the taking. If Republicans want to turn the tables lots of strategic and targeting campaigning must take place. Eventually, it won’t be enough to rely on people’s frustration with what has been a lackluster first year in office for Obama and good old politics will come back into play. Fortunately for us, the G.O.P is ready.