So that’s it? The Republicans can’t govern, and the Democrats don’t want to govern?
The worst is that I can’t help but feel like the main emotion people in the caucus are feeling is relief at this turn of events. Now they have a ready excuse for not getting anything done. While I always thought we had the better ideas but the weaker messaging, it feels like somewhere along the line Members internalized a belief that we actually have weaker ideas. They’re afraid to actually implement them and face the judgement of the voters. That’s the scariest dynamic and what makes me think this will all come crashing down around us in November.
Well, maybe so. After all, anyone who lets Joe Lieberman push them around in public runs a terrible risk of looking like an absolute pussy. (To employ the not-prime-time working class vernacular of my ancestral homeland.)
I suppose the most despondent (despondentest) response to the decision of Massachusetts residents to elect yet another sociopath to the World’s Most Asinine Deliberative Body is from Mr. D. Aristophanes of Sadly No. The Cerulean Cherub is not much happier, though he wanly extends the vague hope that just maybe the sleepyheads will awake and find their ass with both elbows.
Myself? Well, I don’t actually have an anything remotely resembling and enthusiasm or optimism gland. I hoped the Democratic Party would make use of their historic victory to, you know, do things. But then I also hoped the Mets would make the playoffs last summer. I knew they wouldn’t, no matter what I said or did. But I hoped! Even after I saw David Wright get dinged in the head, I hoped. What can I say? It’s the condition of the hereditary Democratic voter. I knew better, though.
That said.
Let me yell at everyone now, though, for a moment. Remember the bad old days of Bush/Cheney, back when the progressive blogs started — and that was all there was? I do! In that dark backward and abysm of time, when things got really bad, we all used to turn to each other and say, “remember, it’s a marathon, not a sprint.” Meaning, what, did you expect to “win” in less than, say, a generation? 30 years or so, at least? Looking at the dysfunctional corporate/media cesspit that is DC, and how messed up the Democratic party is, how fast did anyone imagine serious meaningful change could be implemented?
It is a long haul. Always was. The electoral cycles tend to obscure this point, but if anyone ever thought transforming America so as to make it actually progressive wasn’t a generational project, well, think again.



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Yeah, it’s still a marathon.
I just didn’t see the frikking tripwires on the track.
Thersday!
Well said sir. I think this calls for a Blutarsky moment. The idea that we must fold our tents and go home because they won one fucking seat, while we still hold huge majorities in both houses and the White House, is insane and stupid. I for one shall not go down without a fight.
bush pushed through his tax cuts and a lot of other shit in his 1st year, with a lower majority than the democrats have had this year.
the dems just didn’t even seriously try to push through progressive legislation
All hail Thers!
Although I first typed all hair Thers. That works too.
Hell, Bush pushed through one of the most destructive agendas in the history of the Republic with only a fraction of the majority we have. If there was anyone in the congressional leadership or White House with balls, guts, a spine, or whatever else it takes, all of this would have been passed six months ago.
Great read Thers! Thanks.
LOVE the video, too!!! *G*
I like you attitude.
Maybe they thought that if they punched the hippies in the face enough times they would fight harder on their side?
Tripwires are part of the deal.
Electing a Dem majority was a win, sure, but winning the Dem party was/is the fight that needs to happen.
Howdy ‘puppies.
Hippies just look like masochists.
Dr. Dick, my colleague, I believe we really do need a Blutarsky moment.
And I got a haircut today too.
Went to SuperCuts with the 10-Year-Old. I paid, they gave me a receipt.
I honestly never got a receipt for a haircut before. Thought it was odd. What the hell am I going to do with it? Take the haircut back for a refund if it proves defective?
Don’t want to govern? God Tip O’Neal must be spinning in his grave.
Absolutely. The party leadership has drifted relentlessly rightward since the late 70s, lured by the sweet scent of huge piles of corporate cash. It is time for a party insurrection. The leadership may be center-right, but the people are center-left.
Amen. We need to get rid of the Blue Dogs — they can go join the remaining rational GOoPer (if such remains) and become a conservative party.
We need a real liberal party in this country. Corprophagist and Corprophagist Lite just doesn’t cut it.
I am certainly one for stupid and futile gestures.
Probably for their accounting purposes, Thers.
The IRS looks carefully at salons and barbershops.
Thankee!
OT-Thers, hope ya don’t mind . . . but the deadline is tonight/tomorrow morning on a crucial Supreme Court decision regarding Campaign Donation Limits, and REDUCING THEM!
Rep Alan Grayson Has Petition, Sign If It’s Right For You. Timely!!! Tonite!
A fuller article is at HuffPo . . . .
Coupons! There are often discounts on the slip.
I use em all the time.
Whose head goes on the front of the Continental? Bushie or Cheney?
Stewart’s on fire tonight…
A lot of those places also have a satisfaction guarantee. If you do not like the haircut, they will fix it free within a certain period if you have the receipt (I get mine cut at a similar place).
Fuck it. I’m joining the AABA.
(scroll down)
Done did. Thanks.
That would be the best way to get them out of politics. The Gop has purged the party of anything that resembles a moderate. They’d be like moths in a flame and good luck to them
Lieberman’s.
Grazie! I hadn’t seen that till now.
*scampers off to sign*
Cheney’s head goes on the gas guzzling land yacht. Then you put Bush’s head on a horse’s ass where it belongs.
Saw that last night. That is too stupid and futile even for me.
I don’t know what things are like in Helena, but here my barber (a local shop) charged less and did a better job on my hair. Of course, he’d been cutting it for 20 years. He’s on chemo for Burkitt’s lymphoma now, and I’m hoping he’ll be back soon.
Hiya BCT. I left you one more comment after you left last night.
This was a highly retweeted tweet on Twitter last night:
At first blush, this is just funny. But as the thought sinks in, it resonates more and more. The fact is, the Democrats are going to be a lot stronger — a lot more Democrat-ic — with fewer than 60 but more than 50 Senators.
The minute the Senate Dems lashed themselves to the mast of the Good Ship Supermajority, they put themselves in bondage to the most conservative members.
They can’t get 60 now, so they have to do what they can with 51. They don’t needs Lieberman anymore. They also don’t need Nelson or Lincoln or Landrieu.
For those who like baseball mythology (apt here, I guess), Oakley’s loss was a sacrifice play. Her candidacy died to free us from the conservadems.
I would have said up a horse’s ass, since it contains what he uses for brains anyways.
I don’t know what things are like in Helena either, but here in Missoula we don’t really have any actual barber shops (I think there are like 2-3) and they charge the same or more than the discount places.
Stupid, certainly. Futile remains to be seen.
Indeed, astrophysicists estimate it will be another four and a half billion years before the Sun burns out!
That still gives Progressives time to actually elect Democrats who are not appendages of Wall Street.
Or maybe even convince the average American voter that Wall Street doesn’t necessarily have the interests of Main Street first and foremost in mind.
Lordie.
I like that proposal better. Do you suppose that one potential consequence of Senator Brown’s election will be the long-awaited discipline of Senator Lieberliar (Fellator, Aetna).
As long as we agree that a horse’s ass is part of the solution.
Nope. Ain’t nothing different going to happen. They are gonna hand the power back to the big boys in November. I wonder how many we can primary.
They need to tell Jiltin’ Joe to go fuck himself. Then they need to tell Ben Nelson, Bayh, and the rest of the obstructionist caucus that if they attempt to block voting on key Democratic initiatives they loose all committee appointments and seniority and that they will receive no money, assistance, or endorsements from the party come election time.
Good thought, RF. Her regimen hasn’t changed much (and she’s not on much medication anyway) but I’ll look into it.
All of them?
We should, but I doubt it will happen. Wouldn’t be collegial you know.
Thank YOU!
Speakin of sprints and marathons, any Pups got thoughts about how long the House is gonna take to come up with their response to the Senate Bill that’s on their table?
Obviously, that’s gonna tell us what the WH/Reid/Pelosi have been doing in secret the past week or so.
And that will in turn, tells us what the Senate is LIKELY to do, and we’ll learn if Obama has had any changes of heart.
Anxious!!! I am . . .
I’m Irish, so I have no sympathy for stupid and futile gestures.
Oh wait. Yes I do.
Amen.
Amazing you get a paper receipt for a haircut but can’t get a paper receipt for a vote.
Rat…I am playing straight man for you here…*G*
Disipline in the Democratic ranks? You have got to be kidding. Then again, Harry is up for relection this year. Think it might be possible to send him a message?
AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Thers and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
Oh me oh my, whatEVER are we gunna do??!!! Oh no oh no those big mean Repub…oops, I mean those tough progressive Demo…oh shit whatever are we gunna do our leader just fucked us without even takin’ his pants down, we are doomed I tell ya there must be somethin wrong with us!!!
Good Christ, if I hear anymore of this bullshit about not bein able to do anything about the mess ObamaRahma and the corporate bosses want to keep us in, I’m gunna pop my last remainin brain cell!! And I read that quote in TPM and I got sick to my stomach…for the love of Zeus, Coakley lost because she didn’t want to be held responsible for winnin’ and ObamaRahma pissed on the people of this country and expected that we’d all lay down and do what we’re doin’ right now which is give up and go quietly.
Let me say this one more time…Coakley losin’ was the best thing that could happen for the people of this country because ObamaRahma showed that they can’t handle the job and Obama can’t get anyone elected except himself and if he doesn’t come up with a healthcare solution or doesn’t pull the fuckin’ bill and announce that a jobs bill and EFCA are gunna be law before the end of June, he won’t be able to get his own ass re-elected.
Don’t whine and cry and turn on your brothers and sisters Firepups, ORGANIZE God damn it!! Sister Hamsher has showed us just a glimpse of what is possible with just an organized blog-group and a few courageous politicians. Obama has left the room and there is space for a few progressive politicians in safe districts to fill the room with air again and take charge of the agenda from a White House that is increasingly removed from governing. The Democratic Party is leaderless and the Congress still has Democratic majorities that can undress the fascists in both the White House and in Congressional leadership.
Don’t be afraid of losin’ majorities in the House and Senate…the only way Rahm gets rid of the Democratic majorities is if the progressives in the House of Represntatives let ‘im pull what he did in 1994 and beyond. And if the Democrats lose the House they won’t lose the Senate and even if they do, the fuckin krypto-Nazi Republicans couldn’t get a bill past the White House if they wanted to…
Obama has abdicated so now go out and kick some ass and find some Democrats who want to lead!
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, MAYBE OBAMA NEEDS TO CONTEMPLATE EARLY RETIREMENT!!
Collegial, my bleedin’ a**. I really do believe in being collegial, but I insist on being treated collegially in return. The GOoPs have been anything but collegial, and the Lieberliar has aided and abetted their misbehavior.
Pussy motherfuckers.
Somebody who will remain nameless, Cough Cough, Harry Fucking Reid , should have used a convenient golf outing to stomp on the balls of one Joe Lieberman and feigned surprise two fucking years later that poor little Joey is a back stabbing little sonofabitch.
Kiss my ass Reid, you would have to have been Helen Keller not to see what was happening right in front of your own face. The weak assed lie that you were surprised is what really pisses me off.
Harry, if you don’t see what a shit storm is coming your way sooner than later?
I want to sue for reparations.
Rahm Emmanuel is the anti christ everyone thought Obama was, get yer heads out.
Maybe. But still, phooey, I say, phooey.
The Mets? Hah. You should try being a Phillies fan – now there’s optimism.
Most of them.
Yep. What goes around comes around. Besides, when it comes to the core issues, fuck collegiality entirely. If you are a cryptofascist corporate whore who is trying to rape the American people to enrich yourself and your buddies (aka the Republican Party platform), I reserve the right to say so publicly on the floor of Congress.
Pikers. Cubbies fans have you all beat. If the Cubs ever get the job done, we Royals fans will hold the futility record.
I used to live 5 blocks from Wrigley.
You should run for the Senate. Then you could do exactly that, and not get be sued for definition [sic] of (lack of) character.
A marathon or a treadmill? We run but are we getting anywhere or is our understanding simply deepening? We knew how corrupt and useless the Republicans were. Now we are realizing how corrupt and useless the Democrats are. That may be a change but is it movement?
Yea. And I heard Howard Dean tell Tweety that he actually won elections for candidates when he headed the DNC. Tweety tried to talk over it but it got through.
Hey Pups, I diaried that Grayson Petition at Seminal, it could use some clicky’s and recommends to come to the FDL front Seminal list, so more people might see it? Lil Bloggy Love, for the cause, perhaps?
Thanks!
There are times when someone like Reid has to be able to say to folks like Lieberman “You’re either a part of this caucus or you’re not.” I understand about trying to get the best deal you can and all that. Hell, I might have even written something or other along those lines, but there really are times when you make it clear that a vote’s going to happen.
Otherwise, you end up with disasters like the health care bill.
Hey, Dick (and EDP, if the cat’s got the ears on),
What course management software are your institutions of higher learning using?
Just win baby.
I am an agnostic socialist in Montana with a fucking graveyard in my closet. Don’t think that would work out too well.
? Not sure what you mean there.
Citizen Mary McCumin:
Bless your heart, Sister Mary, I heard that too and that’s what I been sayin for the last month here. Kill the healthcare bill if they can’t get it fixed through reconcilliation and get an insurection goin’ in the House of Representatives…take back the DNC because Obama has given up leadership and put Howard Dean back in the saddle…that’ll scare the shit outta those whimps in the White House!
I know what you mean. I was thinking about running for Denver City Council in ’12; atheist homo here, which means the skeleton is fully fleshed if you get my drift.
Anyways, had a very well place friend run the idea by a consultant here, and his response was “Who the fuck is he? Did he write a book or something?”
Needless to say I’m rethinking the idea.
Well, I think they do now. The Phillies were utterly terrible for the first hundred years of their existence. It’s really only been in the last few decades that they’ve had much success, and even then we’ve had our share of despair. 1964 is a year that Phillies fans anywhere near my age will never forget.
Today over at EW,there was a discussion about comity-extending professional courtesy with the expectation of like in return.
However, comity and appeasement are not the same thing.
As such, here is a quote I posted:
The truly and deliberately evil men are a very small minority; it is the appeaser who unleashes them on mankind; it is the appeaser’s intellectual abdication that invites them to take over.
When a culture’s dominant trend is geared to irrationality, the thugs win over the appeasers. When intellectual leaders fail to foster the best in the mixed, unformed, vacillating character of people at large, the thugs are sure to bring out the worst. When the ablest men turn into cowards, the average men turn into brutes.</strong>
“Altruism as Appeasement,” The Objectivist, Jan. 1966,
good of you signing Grayson’s petition!
oh, you mean party discipline?
An alien concept, I know.
WebCT, Blackboard, etc.
Begosh and begorra, lad . . . .
Are you a Bushmills or a Jamison man?
Shoulda linked to your diary in the comment man. Have I mentioned that I am lazy?
As a follow up to my last post, I don’t think we need to go as far as the Republicans do, but there need to be real consequences for consistently voting against key Democratic initiatives and for EVER voting to filibuster any Democratic initiative.
Sometimes, just feeling the wind on your face is enough.
I’ve wondered this, too, lately. The way I’ve looked at it is that if we get enough good people in Congress, eventually things will change. I might be too optimistic there (and I’m at my most prophetic when I’m being pessimistic), but I think it’s getting better. If nothing else, we’re getting better. It takes a lot of rethinking of things for some people to realize what’s really going on. The whole Obama cult of personality being a case in point. Maybe next time we’ll be smarter.
Yeah, I know, fat chance.
But that’s why I write many of the things I do. I want people to realize the mistakes that were made, and to try not to make them again.
Jameson’s.
A dangerous question BTW, in some parts of the world.
Dude!
Yeah, that’s the “Catholic or Protestant” whiskey question iirc. Yes? And I never remember the answers.
Ahh. We are currently using Blackboard, but it is under review and we may change next year (apparently the next upgrade radically reconfigures the system). I am not sure when they will make that decision (I have no part in the discussion).
heh heh DrDick,
I agree with you! We saw the Blutarsky moment in Paris in 1978 — the French translated the title to “American College.” What a hoot!
No such thing anymore as WebCT. And BlackBoard bought Angel, too. So much for competition.
I try to live by the golden rule: treat others as I would like to be treated. On the other hand, once someone has shown that they aren’t able to disagree without being disagreeable, I don’t feel any particular need to more than polite.
And I’m afraid that The Objectivist doesn’t cut it as a source of anything other than comedy for me. Ayn Rand should have been drawing comic strips to go with her comic book philosophy.
62% of all MA voters, given a real choice, would not have voted for either candidate.
Crystal ball says civil disobedience coming soon, because these fucktards in DC just won’t get it.
What IS it with them, besides the mascot, I mean . . . ;-)
Richie Ashburn, Schmidt, others I can’t recall without lookin it up . . . Robin Roberts? Best Curveballs pre that other guy, the lefty . . . sigh . .
Thers and I duke it out over this one occasionally.
Jameson’s pure Pape, Bushmill’s Prod.
Order carefully in Belfast, Boston, or the Bronx.
Ayn Rand should have been begging for spare change on skid row.
Blackboard is still selling WebCT to those who want to buy it, but all development has ceased.
We switched to Blackboard this AY (statewide, K-20) and I’m not terribly impressed so far.
Southside of Chicago as well.
Ahh. Then local beers it is, ‘cepting the Bronx. I’ll stick with martoonis in NY.
Blackboard has consolidated the market, ate its last major competitor, Angel. Angel’s only supported for a couple more years, and then your school and mine will enjoy the wondrous freedom of the free market, namely, take this POS with crap customer service, or piss off.
I have no basis for comparison, but have used it for several years now. There are a number of things that annoy me, but I do not know how other systems work.
I’d get another consultant, one who will meet and interview you, for no charge, to learn of your skills and assets for the position, and then to weigh your chances and sketch out a type of campaign money wise you’d need as an unknown . . .
This consultant sounds like an elitist hack piece of shit, but that’s just MY opinion.
Development AND support. It’s dead, IOW.
Oh, goody. I just love the efficiency of the free markets (which inevitably trend to monopoly or oligopoly).
Carlton? They had Jim Bunning, too, don’t forget, before he lost his fastball and his mind.
Incompetent management, and what eventually became a bitter fan base. Until the 1950s, they shared Philadelphia with the Athletics, but once the A’s moved on (speaking of incompetent management – good move) the Phillies had one of the largest baseball markets in the country to themselves. They just kept messing up. They traded away great players (Dick Allen, for instance) and got really bad ones in deals no one could believe.
Anyway, there was a change of management about, what, twenty years ago (?) and things have been much better since.
Fortunately for me, I didn’t encounter Objectivism until I’d actually had some experience of life and a decent understanding of literary values. When I finally got around to looking at The Fountainhead it was a laugher. Cardboard characters, stilted dialog… and a whacked-out theme.
You’re right, she should have been a panhandler. It would have been a better waste of a life than what she actually did.
“INDIVIDUALISTS OF THE WORLD, UNITE!”
-Ayn Rand, 1943, writing from her irony-free redoubt.
I would agree. City council elections, especially if they are by ward or district, are a place where a nobody actually has a chance (all you have to do is impress your neighbors). With at large elections, especially in a bigger city like Denver, it is more difficult.
A pussy is a cat, across the pond.
They’re very good at that, particularly if the markets are unrestrained, as they should be.
Dood, that’s what political consultants mainly ARE! There’s a few good ones, but rare, as they tend to be opportunists.
Hell the Repub Party head dude in CO is named DICK WADHAMS. Yes, that’s right DICK WADHAMS!
Anyhoo, the dood that the comment came from was used by Jared Polis and a local luminary, gay billionaire Tim Gill.
I read Rand at 14 and found it dull, insipid, and puerile then. My opinion has certainly not improved with time.
It’s really aggravating. The whole SUNY system was against Blackboard, for a lot of reasons. But now it’ll be frickin’ subsidized.
The Free Market sure does like taxpayer dollars, yum.
When New Mexico was looking for a system, there was an open source alternative. It was down-checked for lack of support.
I guess 10,000 pencil-necked geeks going through the code with a fine tooth comb ain’t good enough.
Rand (paraphrasing): “Altruism is the greatest evil, because it requires the sacrifice of the competent to the incompetent.”
Well, I guess that rules out parenting.
Markets should bound, gagged, and locked in closets in my humble socialist opinion.
Yeah, Ulster, Belfast . . . it’s the ole Protestant v. Catholic thang . . . ;-)
Only thing worse than DFHs are PNGs.
Richie Allen was a HOSS!!
Wasn’t Steve Carlton a Phillie, or was he Cincy?
Dear “Thers”
I was there back then too, and we didn’t say ‘it’s going to take a generation to get this done.”
I can state for a fact, as a witness to the very birth of the lefty blogosphere that no one said it would take that long. Literally, no one said that. So you saying that is outright a lie.
It didn’t take a generation to remove Republicans-in-perpetuity from Congress or to reclaim the presidency, regardless of their timidity this first year out.
And it needn’t take more than another year or two to force Democrats to re-identify with their constituencies and deliver beneficial results.
When you all (all you clever lefty bloggers) started this seven or eight years ago (time flies) none of us knew how effective it would be.
Now we know.
In eight short years (granted, hellish years) we’ve gone from Republican goons stealing an election to …
We’re not backing off. And none of us are waiting another generation for progress.
Or just about everything else that makes us human. The willingness to care for those who cannot care for themselves is the hallmark of humanity and only emerges a few hundred thousand years ago.
The support is, if you’re a reasonably big organization, you hire someone to maintain it who can also be a system administrator. If you’re small, flip that around. At least find a person who can work with open source projects. Managers are willing to spend tens of thousands on support from a vendor or some third party, but not to hire someone to do it in-house. In-house support is like communism or something, apparently.
You know, in my original post at EW I stated that Rand was one of my least likely sources to quote.
But in this quote I found her description of intellectual and moral abdicatiion to be VERY much an accurate description of MANY in positions of power-especially in the WH administration.
Cardinals, then Phillies (for a long time) and then San Francisco. I don’t think he ever played for Cincinnati.
Nobody’s backing off, but we may wind up waiting.
New around here?
Where ya gonna get groceries, man?
Evening, Thers & FDL’ers
No evidence of such behavior in other primates?
Still, as Dr. Dick suggests, a city council seat is WHERE newbies go to become known.
I’d get an intelligent second opinion, for free, too.
Internet. :-)
That comes under the blind pig principle: Even a blind pig finds an acorn now and then.
Howdy PPDCUS.
Grow them in the back yard. Beef and pork are going to be a bit more of a problem. Time for me to toddle off. Got to talk about modernity and globalization tomorrow. Take care all.
All I can say is, around here “it’s a marathon, not a sprint” has been a mantra for quite a while. I’d say bring your lunch, or you’ll get hungry waiting.
Copy that. Gimme all of two minutes, I can disembowel Randianism. Irks the fuck outa me that she continues to get any traction whatsoever, her schtick was so shallow..
So Rand is the basterd child of Niccolo Machievelli and Ayn Rand?
Sorry Thers, but I refuse to use “pussy” as a derogatory term. After all, a “pussy” serves a useful function.
g’nite Doc. Soft landings to you.
You could try a consultant who is young, knows the basics of politics, is well organized and who is willing to work 23 hours a day. That’s where they hone their skills.
Gee, I thought Blind Pig was just a bootleg record label.
We used to have a bar here named the The Blind Pig that booked good live music. Alas, not much of a music scene here these days unless it slipped in without my noticing since I don’t go to bars anymore.
I should let the anthropologist answer this, but my understanding is that there is some evidence of it in chimps and bonobos, but not a lot. Certainly nothing like we see among humans.
Not except for with juveniles, though some much more limited degree of altruistic assistance to other adults. Nor in human ancestors until the emergence of Homo sapiens. Even with Homo erectus, when you could not support yourself, you died. Probably why the seldom lived past 35. With Archaic Homo sapiens (Neanderthal and the like), we see the first signs of this. Several individuals had been crippled or incapacitated for years before death.
Considering you say you live by the Golden Rule, may I assume you are referring to Rand as the pig-and not me? *G*
Nighters.
Good night, Dr. D.
I read “the staffers” email and i dont think Voters arent “acting exactly “as they did in 94″. there really was a rush to the right then, becasue of the rights pox on both of our houses mssg. after the rise and fall of newt, and delay, after the 8 years of bush people who voted enthusiasticly for a dem majority arent going back over to the right. it sounds its as if we feared it was. the people we elected are just to self interested and timid to act the way we need them to act. they are right to be afraid of the voters, the problem is the dont seem to get what the voters WANT. how can they be taught?
Frikking Ayn Rand!
I don’t know if this was anybody else’s experience, but mine in Jesuit Prep School was that “Atlas Shrugged” was ‘beyond’ our AP English curriculum yet encouraged.
I read it, and when the AP teacher asked me if I was going to do the follow up paper I laughed in his face.
Shocked, he said “why not?” I said “there are so many blatantly selfish people here, I see no need to write a caricature of them.”
Bingo!
RUN KELLY RUN!!!
I’d read about it in Neanderthal and Cro Magnon and such.
Too bad there’s no such thing as evolution. :-)
its a religion, packaged as a philosophy, or even a “school of thought”. they call it objectivism, apparently, because everything the old bag ever wrote or said provides an “objective” reality from which to evaluate all being. thats a religion.
Ayuh. Actually, I wasn’t necessarily referring even to Rand as a blind pig. Well, okay maybe I was. Objectivism is so thoroughly full of holes as a moral and ethical system that the fact that it occasionally generates something coherent is purely accidental.
Kind of like Windows running useful programs. It’s really a viral OS.
People like Ayn give chain smoking Benzedrine fiends a bad name.
“Objectivism”
LOL. Nice fucking try, b****.
From the Even A Broken Clock Is Right Twice A Day School Of Epistemology.
Awhile back, I read a book by Michael Shermer, an agnostic and skeptic. In it, at one point, he explained how wrong Rand’s interpretation of the Biblical phrase “Judge not lest ye be judged” was. But, yes, people still think she just had the whole world figured out.
It was on our suggested reading list when I was a HS senior. I was struggling with Tolstoy and Doestoyevsky at the time.
The Catholic nuns threw me out of Kindergarten, in Saigon, Vietnam.
Forget what year . . . how old is kindergarten? 3? 4?
Round ’57 or so . . .
I’m STILL proud of that one.
I know! Some of my best friends are….oh never mind. *g*
Damn near every fucking Republican candidate for thr office of the President now being a paid consultant/ coomentator at Fox news, the ENTIRE print media being owned and manipulated by some fucking asshole called Rupert Murdoch and a majority in the House and the Senate, a Dem President and about as much testosterone as examplified by the common Earth Worm.
I have literally seen Russian Immigrant women at Good Will who will rip what you want out of your hands.
Maybe some of these elected officials need a first hand view of that, out of necessity.
It would certainly not break my heart to see some of these multi millionair assholes digging for bargains.
Yeah – wasn’t “The Brothers Karamozov” a better use of your time? Was mine.
Most notably including one Alan Greenspan.
He should have forgotten graduate school and remained a bad bop jazz tenor player. We might be better off if he had.
With fiends like these…
I have a foggy recollection of a Simpsons episode where a letter “r” had fallen off the church sign so it read, “What a fiend we have in God.”
Anna Karenina, Brothers Karamozov, Crime and Punishment and One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich. I got started with AK, and Mrs. Wolfe led me into other Russian novels. It was very kind of her to let me get stuck in Russia when we were supposed to be doing world literature.
Well, isn’t this special?
McCain’s wife, daughter back gay marriage movement
I’ve heard (or read) that dolphins exhibit that behavior. Interestingly, they and their genus (porpoises, narwhals) are the only species besides humans whose encaphalographic (sp) quotient (basically, a measure of how big the creature’s brain is compared to what’s needed) is larger than homo habilus‘s.
The marathon would go a lot quicker if the damn runners didn’t spend 20 minutes out of every 10 asking me for more money.
Yes.
If they ever develop opposable thumbs we’s in a whole heap o’ trouble.
Better late than never. I wonder if John knows?
That’s another keyboard ruined! Luckily I have a spare.
We can still outrun them on land.
Has Big John’s head blown up yet?
Blew MY mind . . . .
Nope! It’s part of the “rehabilitation of Goldwater” just starting earlier in McCain’s case.
You see, the younger generation of the Goldwaters, McCormicks, Sheas, Zanzukis and McCains all know each other. And Ty Goldwater is out and HIV+.
He’s a bit younger than me, not much, but he and his sister Allison have been influencing the Paradise Valley Country Day School set for some time now. It’s just catching on with Megan, and now her mom.
Can’t shop in Scottsdale/Sedona without a decent homo in tow!
Whoopsie! Was it something I said? :-)
As an (at least) fifth generation Masshole, I offer these thoughts:
The antipathy to the Kennedy Era in Mass. is real and is very complex. Some of it is just angry white suburban jocks who say “I’ve got mine, so fuck you.” Some of it is blatant and underlying racism, cuz Ted championed poor people in Mass, ie. darkies. Some of it is the concept of it being “Ted Kennedy’s Senate Seat” and all his relatives’ as if it were a Duchy of Saxony, which the Boston Globe has always helped push by trying to turn them into Royalty to sell color supplements. Some of it is just typical Yankee stubbornness about not wanting to be told who you “will” vote for. And some is that the Democratically-controlled Mass. Legislature is one of the most profoundly corrupt and backward festering masses of patronage on the Planet, thus making a vote for a Republican a protest vote against the whole rotten, entrenched system.
But angry white suburban jocks does account for at least a third of it.
Here’s my problem:
The Democrats and the Republicans are identical in every way that matters. They’re ALL whores and none more than Barack W. Bush, who ran on a pack of lies from stem to stern.
ANyone who thinks Barack W. Bush is ANY DIFFERENT than Joe Lieberman just has refused to pay attention.
We are in Iraq with NO END IN SIGHT.
We are in Afghanistan with NO END IN SIGHT.
Health care reform in this country is as dead as Buddy Holly, the Big Bopper and Ritchie Valens.
The US is now, and will be until the latter-day Visigoths conquer us, an oligarchy, and a feudal one at that. There is only one answer and I am not allowed to write it on this blog, but those of you who know me, know what it is.
We are done, until more of you realize talking is losing.
Yes, and thank you for it. Needed the laugh.
An indecent one won’t cut it, huh?
Guess that blows our scene. :-)
Raises my opinion of Cindy somewhat. She could raise it a lot more by belatedly kicking John to the curb.
can’t shop in scottsdale/sedona…
you’re a stitch Kelly. If I ever get to the other side of hills I’d love to have coffee with you
‘night, ‘pups, I’m headin’ out to cover a show…
I think she has basically already done that.
Heppy to be of service.
Cue the band, I’m tappy-tap dancin’ out of here.
Splendid evening to all.
You know EXACTLY what I’m talking about; Cindy McCain wouldn’t be caught DEAD at The Borgata without a $5,000 purse.
And neither would Ty Goldwater. :)
nighters rat!
Ta ta rattykins!
Agreed. Otherwise, what is the meaning of party?
On this same topic, a piece I put up a few minutes ago:
Does Obama want to be President anymore?
http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/25358
thx.
Only through hearsay. My brother has clients who can’t buy new bathtowels w/o asking him!
Night rat, hi Chris!
See! Their shop-fu is WEAK!
Good night, pups.
Hiya Margot!
I’ve been lurking, but here tonight. See Thers at 182! GO THERS!!!
Uh, not any more. I’m confused, perhaps there were edits…
A principled mod methinks.
(((MOD)))
Not an easy chair to ride these days; tempers are a wee bit high.
Indeed. Tempers are a wee high EVERYWHERE, yes? At work, on the road, in families, in general. I weep.
Yep – the stressors are not just political – they’re real.
Ruling class is not getting that, and people are getting more and more pissed off.
This is inappropriate. Find another way to express yourself, other than calling someone a liar.
thank you.
Egregious,
Thank you.
And the banksters decided that as long as the serfs aren’t grabbing pitchforks, they can do whatever they want to do.
True. I don’t know what to feel right now.
Watch; the price of gas will go over $3, $3.25 again by May and then who knows in the summer.
This will make the squeeze before the Fall election cycle. Pitchforks!
Maybe, but riots and general strikes and the like are very bad for bidness.
Non violent (aside from anarchist plants we know will be there) mass demonstrations in DC, a million at least, and a million in every large city. Repeated on weekends.
Work stoppages.
Boycotts.
If bidness is been bad to us, we need to be bad to bibness to make our points.
It IS corporate feudalism/facism that’s the enemy.
Gas and interest rates will rise right before the election. When Repukes are in charge they go down right before the election.
The United States will be an openly fascist country before it’s ever a progressive country. Fascism will prevail when the next bubble bursts and there is no progressive alternative/organizations for the people to rally around leaving the right the default choice. The media is driven completely by conservative memes and the American public has been so dumbed down they really don’t know any better. They are truly marionettes. It will be at a minimum of 1 generation (40-50 years?) to create an informed electorate. The economy will collapse before that happens and that’s when the right will make their final move.
Never give in. And don’t let political hacks from either party mislabel corporatist government policy as being somehow progressive.
The public denounced the Bush years by strongly voting for change. That’s a win.
And it seems that they are now voting based on the lack of change they are currently witnessing.
I don’t cheer Coakley’s loss to Brown, but I do cheer the fact that a needed wakeup call has been delivered to Democrat leadership.
How many times must the math be pointed out?
Brown vote was the same as the McCain vor Nov 2008 – there were no new GOP votes.
The Democratic vote was down by 900,000 – the base sent a message by staying home. Corporate welfare check bills are not what we signed up for.
The only thing the base loses by sending a message is the ability to have the next corporate welfare check bill passed by Congress wrapped in a passed by Democrats gift wrap.
If this message from the base is ignored, more messages will be sent.