Jamie Dimon, the CEO of JPMorgan Chase (JPM) testified at the hearings held by the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission that JPM acted wisely and well for the most part. Don’t make us get smaller, he says. Then JPM issues its results for 2009, and it’s what we have come to expect. Profits are up and loans are down. Loss reserves are increasing, and bad loans are increasing. But, profits are up.
On the revenue side, about 30% comes from the investment banking business, including trading for its own account, gains on securities held, and investment banking fees. This last category includes underwriting the sale of securities for others, and JPM is holding its own there: it claims to rank number 1 in most categories. Page 10. Net interest income dropped steadily quarter by quarter, decreasing 11% from 4Q 08. Charge-offs and non-performing assets are up.
Consumer lending is down about 11% over the same period 2008. JPM bought a bunch of troubled loans when it acquired Washington Mutual and Bear Stearns. It reports these loans separately from its internally generated loans. For its own loans, JPM reports that home equity loans, subprime mortgages and option ARMS are all down, which is to be expected, since these categories have serious charge-offs. Prime mortgages are also down about 7% over 4Q 08. There are several possible explanations for this, one of which is that despite its vast reach, it isn’t lending into this market. We’ll have to wait to learn the reason when the 10-K comes out.
This report doesn’t provide much information about the swaps portfolio, or the operations of JPM in that area.
So what did Dimon tell the Financial Crisis Inquiry Board about his company?
While the last year and a half was one of the most challenging periods in our company’s history, it was also one of our most remarkable. Throughout the financial crisis, JPMorgan Chase never posted a quarterly loss, served as a safe haven for depositors, worked closely with the federal government, and remained an active lender to consumers, small and large businesses, government entities and not-for-profit organizations.
It was an active lender, if reduction in loans counts as active. Dimon says that small business loan applications were down 37% in the third quarter of 2009 over 3Q 2008, a fortuitous choice of periods. The great recession began at the end of 3Q 2008, and wiped out a whole lot of small businesses, including many which couldn’t get loans or had their loans jerked.
Dimon argues that huge financial conglomerates are necessary to handle the needs of enormous corporations. He says the diversification of JPM made it easier for the company to survive the great recession. His solution is to set things up so that failure of a giant won’t put taxpayers or the economy at risk. He thinks shareholders and unsecured creditors should bear the risk of failure, as if something has changed, and the financial elites will just accept their losses and not demand taxpayer bail-outs. He is arguing for tweaks to the current system which failed so dramatically. He makes this explicit when he says that regulators did a bad job. I like this one: “…insurance regulators were essentially unaware of large and growing one-sided credit insurance and credit derivative bets by some companies…. (p.9)
He also says he supported proposals to move towards clearinghouses for credit default swaps and other derivatives. That’s not quite what he told the NYT. He told them that requiring all derivatives to trade through clearinghouses would cause a material loss in revenues to his bank.
Historically, financial markets fail to control stupid excess. In times when there was no regulation, such as the 1890s and the 1920s, financial markets crashed. In times when there is serious regulation, like the 1950s, the economy goes up and down, but the financial markets don’t crash. When regulation is shoddy to non-existent, as in the 2000s, financial markets crash.
But that’s just history. Mr. Dimon is sure it won’t happen again.




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What is the best way to launder money?
Trade it through a system of collateralized debt.
Consider this:
Drug money saved banks in global crisis, claims UN advisor
http://www.guardian.co.uk/global/2009/dec/13/drug-money-banks-saved-un-cfief-claims
Are you starting to understand why we are occupying Afghanistan?
And why toxic pharmaceuticals are FDA approved while marijuana is not?
And why President Barack ‘Bankster’s BFF’ Obama isn’t going to do anything about it…
other than escalate these inhuman atrocities?
Dimon should be in jail with the other MOTU. These reports are worthless. The books are cooked. Banks are allowed to mark to model and write down debt. Various other exposures are held off the book. The truth is we have no idea about JPM’s financial condition, except it can’t be good if they have to lie so much about it.
JPM continues to be, as far as I know, the largest holder of derivatives in the world with something like $90 trillion in various kinds of swaps. I have often wondered if another systemic event happened how these would really net out in real time. And too you have to keep in mind they only net out if the counterparties stay intact. If they collapse, there is no off-setting side to net against and the loss is total.
This is pure bullshit. JPM survived because the government backstopped it. Other than breaking up the TBTF and regulating and limiting the activities of the descendant entities, there is no way in the world to prevent such risks being dumped on taxpayers in the future.
Phil Angelides was a residential real estate developer in the Sacramento area during the real estate bubble, back when a permit to build housing in California was a license to print money. He specialized at sprawl, clearcutting agricultural areas for tract subdivisions.
Anyone who operated in the supply chain that fed CDO serialization should have been automatically disqualified for serving on the commission that is investigating what happened and suggesting fixes. That the Democrats are putting forth a developer who got his clock cleaned by Schwarzenegger, designated satan, is a signal as to what’s happening here, which is nothing but show.
http://www.mercurynews.com/internal-affairs/ci_14205471
I read the story on JP Morgan Chase earnings in the NY Times. The Times article said that JP Morgan Chase had profits of $11B and some. This compared to their ‘record’ bonus pool of $26.9B.
If I were a stockholder I think I’d for sure be asking why the folks who helped create the mess in the economy should be rewarded so handsomely in comparison to those who provide the underlying money.
Dimon should be in prison.
And it would be wise to put him there posthaste before Obama tires of Timmy and decides to make Jamie Secretary of the Treasury.
On the other hand, someone like Angelides that has first hand experience with bankers, mortgage lenders, appraisers, escrow firms, etc. is keenly aware of the fraud that was perpetuated that created this bubble. Without this pervasive fraud, Wall Street would not have a had a worthless product to slice and dice and pawn off on investors. Let’s remember, that the root of all this was complete deregulation that encouraged a system of free money to anyone with a pulse to generate fees for everyone in the financial food chain. It got so bad between 2000 and 2007 that if you were in real estate in any form (lending, appraising, escrow, inspecting, etc.)and you had any ethics at all you were steamrolled by the crooks and squeezed out of business. These crooks provided product to the crooks on Wall Street who were given cover by crooks in the rating firms. The honest people were long gone by the time the bubble burst. If you encounter anyone that was still in the business by 2007, you can pretty well assume they had shed their ethics and embraced deliberate ignorance of what was going on for some time.
The vast majority of their swaps are interest rate swaps, which are pretty vanilla, boring instruments that don’t expose the party to much in the way of notional risk. The contract increases or decreases in value, but there’s never payout on the notional amount the way there could be w/ a credit swap.
If I were a shareholder, I would want to know how they can rationalize a bonus pool more than double the reported profits, especially considering the rising tide of losses not yet realized still on the books which surely question the validity of the profit figures reported?
Yes, I know, but I have become cynical. The notional amounts on the interest rate swaps are larger so even a percentage of that could still be a very large number. And again I wonder about how supposedly offsetting swaps time out against each other. If there is a discrepancy, that could amount to a significant risk as well. With currency swaps if the international system becomes unstable, these could become problematic as well. My point is that we have been told before that market sectors are solid and low risk, and then we have seen a precipitating event which has shown this to be untrue. What I would like to see is a fair and true accounting of what the value of assets are, what the risks are, and how they really offset each other or don’t.
That is worrisome to me as well. Wall Streeters say interest rate swaps are safe, over and over, and when you hear it that loud and often, you get nervous.
Elizabeth Warren: TARP Oversight Report Says ‘Implicit Guarantee’ of Future Bailouts Hampering Reform
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/elizabeth-warren-tarp-oversight-report-say
Elizabeth Warren “yesterday was informative if nothing else” “how much do you plan to change your practices?” “I heard a mention loud and clear we don’t plan to change”
“Mr. Dimon is sure it won’t happen again.”
But, but, but, Mr. Dimon also said this: “My daughter called me from school one day, said ‘dad, what’s a financial crisis?’ Without trying to be funny, I said it’s the type of thing which happens every five to seven years.”
So, is he trying to be an oracle or a comedian? Where do they find guys like this, anyway?
I had a bank rep, in trying to get me to move my account, assure me that our current financial melt-down was just a normal thing that happens every 7-10 years. As I looked at her in disbelief I had the sinking feeling she was simply parroting words delivered to her from on high.
What a insulated, parasitical group of people.
Really? I thought Angelides’ specialty was developments that encouraged community – no cars in large parts of the developments, greenspace, grey water systems. Angelides also has been an anti-corporatist all his public life, attempting to go after the bad guys years ago, when he and Spitzer worked together in 2002 to try to reign in Wall street. He tried like hell in 2004 to stop the merger of Anthem and BC/BS in California, claiming that it would bad for consumers.
I don’t agree that Angelides can be painted with the fox in the hen house brush.
Cynical?
Maybe LTCM (Long Term Capital MAnagement) rings a bell?
The brief summary:
1. Hedge fund with two economists who won the ‘Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences’ in 1997 for their previous work. (Fund founded in 1993)
2. Huge bets are placed with a high degree of leverage.
3. Bets turn bad, fund in trouble.
4. The Federal Reserve Bank of New York organized a bailout by major creditors.
This occurred back when a $3.6 billion dollar bailout was a BIG bailout.
At the time many questions were raised concerning the bailout, and whether it could encourage similar risk taking in the future.
We really should not be propping up investment banks. Let them fend for themselves.
Bring back Glass-Steagall.
I wonder if Dimon was listening to THIS yesterday?
President Obama goes after Wall Street over bailout in his weekly address
Source: The Hill
President Barack Obama vowed to recoup billions of dollars in bailout money paid out to prevent a major crisis among large financial firms in his radio address Saturday, declaring, “We’re not going to let Wall Street take the money and run.”
Obama announced his plan to levy a new fee on large banks and similar institutions earlier in the week, seeking to reclaim the rest of the nearly $1 trillion distributed to prevent a collapse of the financial system in 2008 and 2009. The federal government already has regained a substantial portion of the bailout money but Obama insisted the banks were obliged to offer up more.
Obama described the bailouts as “distasteful but necessary” and indicated that generous bonuses being offered to executives — which he previously described as “offensive” — were a sign that these companies are in good enough shape to contribute more to the economic recovery.
“We want the taxpayers’ money back, and we’re going to collect every dime,” Obama said. “If the big financial firms can afford massive bonuses, they can afford to pay back the American people.”
Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/76497-obama-…
NOTE: WHY is Obama, just NOW saying this?
The vultures are ALWAYS the fattest where the carrion is the MOST plentiful.
You know, Gitcheegumee. I know this is rhetorical. But for those who don’t, here it is:
2009 was the year of deals and bipartisanship
2010 is the year of populism and tough stands — and a November off-year election. If he gets the money back, the onus for TARP is back on George W. Bush and Obama is the guy who prevented it from being another corporate giveaway.
Just wait. Obama will increasingly rediscover his inner FDR.
Read with the hope that comes with the appearance of an oasis in the desert. I hear ya, brother, and boy do I wish this were true. I’m so skeptical at this point, though…
Obama said:
Perhaps it’s because he is seeing signs (bonuses) the banks are now sound enough to begin paying back.
However, the idea of the ‘bailout’ being a ‘loan’ was inherent in the original TARP legislation.
He doesn’t seem terribly comfortable in that role, but the public demand it.
Likewise, this could be a good year for more Liberal Dem political candidates…if the economy gets back on it’s feet in time for the elections.
Phil’d have been a damn sight better than Der Gropenfuehrer. He would not have taken the first, worst step in repealing the vehicle license fee that started us down the road to massive deficits and shock doctrine remedies.
At the very least, Phil’s competent.
God bless ya,TD, but I just cannot see it,or him saying this:
We had to struggle with the old enemies of peace‹business and financial monopoly, speculation, reckless banking, class antagonism, sectionalism, war profiteering.
They had begun to consider the Government of the United States as a mere appendage to their own affairs. We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob.
FDR Madison SquareGarden Speech,1936
The ENTIRE speech is well worth reading-and is astonishing in its relevance to today.
Thanks, masaccio.
For additional reading that I haven’t seen cited yet, though almost a week old:
Anti-Regulators: The Federal Reserve’s War Against Effective Regulation, Monday, 01/11/2010, by Bill Black.
Some of us remember Bill Black from his interview on Bill Moyers’ Journal.
At the risk of pedantic self-promotion, I’ll also mention my diary on the FCIC hearings, which included a semi-live blog of the 2 days of hearings.
Bob in AZ
@#24
FDR Madison Square Garden Speech 1936
They had begun to consider the Government of the United States as a mere appendage to their own affairs. We know now that Government by organized money is …
history.sandiego.edu/gen/text/us/fdr1936.html – Cached – Similar
A TARP that BIG can cover up a WHOLE LOT of stuff…..
What’s MOTU?
Master Of The Universe.
Accompanied by a huge ego.
Bob in AZ
Correct, Phil Angelides can do basic math. Arnold has NEVER demonstrated a grasp of numbers, to him anything is possible, even when the losses are $20+ billion.
@30
Thanks Bob.
I suppose one could also use that acronym for Mistress of the Universe.
Oops, that could open up a whole ‘nother can of worms……..
JPMC is cooking the books just as Enron did 10 years ago.
In 2008 JPMC acquired WaMu with $34 billion in toxic assets (bad mortgages) for only $1.9 billion in equity. The value of WaMu portfolio dropped another $17 billion in the last year. How could JPMC declare a profit?
Apparently JPMC does not have mark-to-market, that is, even though they’re holding mortgages on which nobody is making payments, and more mortgages on homes declining in value, until the PROPERTY SELLS Chase doesn’t have to write down the asset.
Jamie Dimon and crew are making about 30% of their profits on what they call treasury – trading bonds and derivatives. Less than 20% of their profits were in mortgages and mortgage servicing.
Dimon is world class at bluffing, AND he owns a lot of politicians from state houses, governors, House, Senate and dare I say White House.
I was on a town hall call with my congressman yesterday and many people were voicing concern that something be done – both R and D voters.
I would like to say that Obama is realizing the need to reign in banks, but I have zero confidence he is prepared to overrule Rahm or his treasury team.
If we could convince the Iranians where to best put their first Nuke, would we advise Wall Street or Washington D.C.?
Niether were to stupid.
masaccio, I hope you are still reading comments on this topic
jp morgan acquired washington mutual in a most unusual and in my opinion criminal manner;
they acquired the assets and did not assume any of the liability associated with those assets
for instance, if I bought 50,000 dollars worth of bonds, jp morgan acquired that 50,000 dollars however I washington mutual held the liability
in other words, my bond lost complete value, washington mutual became insolvent and the people who acquired those assets cannot be sued for compensation
this needs the light of day and you are just the person to do it