The GOP is going negative?

C’mon. This is a joke, right? Since when?

And the Dems will turn the other cheek.
Because it worked so well for John Kerry.

a top secret “strategy session” circle jerk.

Fixed it.

Will probably be effective given there is no fight in Democrats. They had an opportunity to neuter the Republican party for a generation but Obama decided that he didn’t care about accountability.

That’s why every election, they bash Democrats. It’s all they’ve got.

It may be all they have, but it works. I wonder how long it will take a bunch of people here to realize the system is irreparably broken and we must think of alternatives. We mock Sarah Palin for good reason, but she sops it up and gets stronger. If things don’t get better by 2012 we may be calling her Madam President. That should be enough to persuade us to move away from business as usual.

always good spending very little time on your own ideas when your own ideas are always just give more money to rich people and it will trickle down.
just destroy the entitlements and it will trickle down.
just destroy the social fabric and …..

The reason it might work? The dems are slow to react and when they react, it is usually too late or very weak.

they hate to pull the curtain back on their own corporate enablers.

I agree ekunin–Americans are cannibalizing each other while the kings and queens in Washington (both parties) and K Street—keep living it up. My mantra continues—until the greed, graft and corruption in Washington is taken care of–nothing will be done for you and me.

These Politico guys are about as perceptive as Morton Downey, Jr.s version of Sherlock Holmes.

Oh wait…that was Robert Downey, Jr. But it actually is more sensible in the original line for Politico’s scrills.

big whoop. They will go into the mud. And the sheeple will respond by voting for rethugs. Why? Because the idiot dems will not get their thumbs out of their asses and fight back. The rethugs treat politics as a bare knuckle fight. The dems seem to treat politics like a british tea party. The dems won in 2006 and again in 2008. I am begining to believe that those wins were all due to Dr Dean. Because, for damn sure, the dems have done nothing but f**kin cry in their damn soup while the rethugs make charge after charge, WITH ZERO RESPONSE FROM THE FREEKIN DEMS! Who will lose and lose big this year because the dems have gone back to sleep.
Question, who is the person in charge of the dem party?……I have no idea, have never seen or heard from this person. Now, who is the rethug party chair? Steele.I know this because he is all over the MSM.-make all the jokes you want to, but he is keeping the rethug brand out in public, granted the MSM is acting like the rethugs own them, but still. We need to take this sheet seriously.
If the damn dems don’t wake up and get off their dead asses then 2010 is going to look like 1994 all over again.

Not only that, but the dem “leadership” cough cough. Reid, is totally damn useless. The senate dems have no spine. They have no leaders. They are going to get their asses handed to them this year due to mass dumbassedness.

This breaking news will startle Democrats, who won’t know how to respond.

“…that shit …tells you all you need to know about the GOP’s…” media outlet: POLITICO…your prime source for propaganda, misdirection and disinformation.

I am so over ‘the media.’ Gimme a blogger and some on-the-ground research any time, please. Do not dare to tell me what I should think.

What I read on the blogs is so far superior to the drivel that passes for journalistic scholarship.

The thing no one has picked up on is the outright amorality & hubris of the powers-that-be. Their unethical morass, nihilism and utter moral wasteland leave laws and regulations unenforced, truth turned into outright lies. The perverted decadence and corruption shot through the establishment is a miasma that blankets the world.

However, Republicanism, in all its forms, is far worse.

We have to think of ways to do it ourselves. If we wait for some sort of savior, (i.e. a Dem with his head on straight) we will be screwed yet again.

It’s beginning to look like Republicans will take the Senate seat in MA. This will be a stunning rebuke of Obama and his 3rd Way, guaranteed to destroy the Democratic Party. Independents are flocking to Brown because they are disillusioned by Obama’s lack of leadership and his seeming lack of any real convictions. That’s what happens when Dems try and govern by moving to the right, they lose independents and the “base” is completely demoralized.

As digby said,

“Pick up your muskets, kids, or STFU.”

We have a little document from 1776 as a guide.

“It may be all they have, but it works.”

Yes it does and it will continue to work until the democrats learn how to govern. Their ‘fillibuster proof majority” proved worthless as they abandoned the promises they were elected on and trampled the ideals and principles they have historically stood for in the dirt.

You are right—cant count on them. But we can keep voting them out—both parties—- so the crooks dont get too comfortable. And it will cost the lobbyist more money to keep buying their votes.
As Oscar Wilde wrote “We know what you are; now we are just haggling over price”.

Democrats will see the loss of Teddy Kennedy’s seat as proof that their strategy is working. Don’t know how they will get to that conclusion, but history tells us that they will.

No need to bash Democrats…just point out what they are doing to our once great country. You have BeeOOh attempting to transform our democracy into socialism. Then you have the cryptkeeper Pelosi utilizing every clandestine trick in the book to keep their stench from coming out in the open.
Of course lets not forget the newly crowned racist Harry Reid..

It may come to muskets, but not yet. We need a network that includes everyone, perhaps an “our space” instead of “my space”. We need to be able to get lawful, peaceful, credible nationwide demonstrations going. How we manage this I’m not sure. It’s something to talk about.

Gotta vote R in 2010. They’ll repeal HCR.

If the Tea Party people can amass the numbers that they have, it can be done. Just read that Harry Reid and Joe Biden cancelled a fund raising trip to Texas. The assumption was that the Tea Party planned to come out in huge numbers to greet them when they arrived and they didnt want the visual optics. But, Im thinking it could have been that they are focusing their attention on MA.

Tea Party has corp organizers, just the thing we want to get away from.

Maybe the Democrats will blame the loss of Kennedy’s seat on Ralph Nader.

Heh. Great way to bring the carping & complaining to an end.

And bashing Democrats is often all the GOPers need. You only have to look at the Obrahma WH to figure out why. Sure the Democrats have ideas – shitty HCR, escalation in Afghanistan, torture coverups, bankster bailouts, etc. Folks, sniping at the GOPers won’t solve our problem because our problem is with the DEMOCRATS.

Yeah, well…if they’d listened in 2000…yada yada yada.

If the Democratic Party was a lab rat, it would have shocked itself to death long ago.

And what does that imply about all of us who kept voting D?

All whine, all the time.

I’ve voted for a lot of D’s since 2000, too. Obama even.

IMO it implies that no progressive strategy for reform of the D Party has worked yet. The status quo of vote for the D because s/he is a D just doesn’t work.

I don’t drink, actually. But I do enjoy cheese.

You may be right and I agree there is a certain amount of that but I often wonder if that is a talking point to try to minimize their impact. It seems to me that with the numbers they have all over the country it would be hard for a corp to organize them. Their views are conservative and more in line with what the Rs purport to believe. To be sure—the Rs would love to coop them. Not sure they have if you look at some of the Reps they are after—Lindsey Graham, John McCain. MHOO but I dont think anyone could get them out in these numbers unless they were truly mad about this health care bill.

For those of us who want to know, Emptywheel is at it again: Liveblogging the Prop 8 Trial: Day Five Friday AM (19)

Memo to Cheney’s bitch stenographer…

This constant vilifing of women from fellow Democrats needs to stop, it is highly offensive.

And this is different from Coakley saying “Vote for me because the other guy is George Bush” how?

I know she can’t come right out and say, “Ted said I could have his seat! It’s not fair!” But in coming up with something else, she needs to try harder.

touche

It would probably help the dems cause going forward if they did a better job of vetting candidates. The whole strategy of wooing “moderates” to join the democratic party has been a disaster. There is no point in bringing people like the blue dogs into the fold if they are going to oppose their own party every step of the way.

You’re just calling Reid “useless” because he told you the truth and you neither wanted to hear it nor admit it was true: there are not enough votes in the Senate to get what the progressive Democrats want. Reid came out after the first whip count on the Health Insurance Reform bill and told you, “There aren’t enough votes in the Senate to pass a public option.” He came out and said the same thing after every whip count thereafter. Even so, he put a public option in his manager’s markup of the bill so that the senate would have to argue the point, and what that showed was thanks to the Republicans – and especially the Blue Dog Democrats and Lieberman – he had been right all along: the votes were not there to pass the bill the progressives wanted. What would you have had him do?

Stop blaming Reid for telling you things you don’t want to hear and start blaming the people who insisted on the bill that eventually came out of the Senate – and doing something about replacing them with progressive Senators, if that’s even possible.

The GOP could learn a thing or two about bashing Democrats if they’d just read FDL.

Politico is always first with the inside-the-beltway “news.” They must have had a awfully big news hole to fill today to publish this piece – a cut and paste job from the middle of the last decade.

So, you are saying that there are fewer than 50 votes in the Senate for a strong public option? Otherwise, it is Reid’s choice of strategy, NOT the lack of votes, that led to the removal of the public option from the Senate bill.

Hey Sue–right on about Blue Dogs and Lieberman but the Rs dont have enough votes to stop anything if the Ds stayed together—Maybe I am missing your point.

Well, here’s the Moderator’s chance to tell me, AGAIN, that I am heading down the wrong “path” for accurately observing that it will take [edited by mod, sigh] to bring about any meaningful change in the status quo. Those with the power are willing, nay gleeful, at the chance to kill those who threaten to take it away, so those who want it must be equally willing. History could not be more clear on this basic truth.

OR, things will just stay the same and we can continue our intellectual masturbation.

“Internally, Republicans call it the “80-20 strategy,” which, loosely interpreted, means spending 80 percent of the time whacking Democrats and the remainder talking up their own ideas.”

So when do the Republics start doing the 20% bit, where they tell us their “ideas”?? I haven’t heard one yet, other than to reduce taxes for the obscenely wealthy.

The Tea Party movement does appear to be picking up steam, which gives me pause. I know that they have corporate backers, although many of the “feet on the ground” don’t see it directly (and, hence, won’t acknowledge it as such). Still, the “boots on the ground” are willing to get out there and do their thing. Where are progressives?

Yes, I know: I am very weary from all of the organizing, including protesting, that I’ve been for years (seems like hundreds at this point), but seriously: where are we? I am speaking to myself, as well as to others.

I am as guilty as the next person of bashing Dems (who deserve it), but we’d better get organized, or, as usual, we’ll be left in the dust.

Democratic constituents & progressives have lost out big time this time around because their elected reps in no way did what we voted them in to do. It doesn’t even LOOK like they made much of an effort to follow the “will of the people.” From where I sit, it just looks like a bunch of entitled pigs at the trough, who really should know better but clearly do not.

I believe that the Dems will lose, and lose big, next time around, and they only have themselves to blame. Despite the whining that goes on at FDL and elsewhere, we have at least been speaking in a coherent fashion and making demands that make sense. No one can say that we haven’t offered reasoned opinions and expressed intelligent demands that *could* have worked. For better or worse, bloggers on the left tend to be thoughtful and have some sound advice. It has been totally ignored, and the vast majority of us contributed a lot (within our limited means) to the Dem success of the last election.

We’ll be stuck once again with ReTHUGS in charge, and it’ll be no one’s fault but Dems in Congress and the Whitehouse for radically and blatantly ignoring the will of their constituents who paid big time to get them elected.

In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell

Viva la revolucion!

Great post BT!!!

Love it!!!!

Joke ‘em if they can’t take a fuck . . . bastids. *spits*