Yeah sure. And pretty soon some retired general will tell us that bombing and invading them creates terrorists. Yawn.

Unilaterally supporting Israel against the Palestinians and arming it as it commits war crimes and crimes against humanity is the major act taken by the US government which helps terrorism.

The impact of the chattering classes is negligible, and who would trust Bush “terror officials” on anything anyway? I thought progressives and liberals opposed the worldview that these criminals represent?

Rapidly, any discussion of “terror” devolves into a discourse eerily reminiscent of Kennedy assassination conspiracy theories.

The fearmongers (King, Hoekstra, the Cheneys, etc.) aren’t just helping terrorists–in a very real way, they are terrorists, in the sense that their speech is intended to promote a political agenda through the engenderment of fear.

Unilaterally supporting Israel against the Palestinians and arming it as it commits war crimes and crimes against humanity is the major act taken by the US government which helps terrorism.

Well, the Underwear bomber didn’t say anything about Palestine – and I’d say – at this point, our own actions in Muslim nations is more than enough to motivate the faithful…

It is The Cheney Crime Family raison d’etre to promote terror. It creates customers for their “security” business/profits.

It also pays to have built in obsolescence to continue the perceived need for your services, but in this case, if you haven’t provided security, you may eventually lose the contract with your customer case.

At least, that’s what I’m waiting for. Someone to cancel Cheney’s contract.

I wonder if Al Quieda is using Liz Cheney’s comments to fundraise? Getting testimony from the exVIce Presidents daughter about how Obama can’t stop al Quieda would be very effective.
After all I always look for statements against a person’s interest judging such statements to be more sincere. Al Quieda fund raisers would assume that Liz’s interest would be America first.
They of course don’t know that Liz is a Republican first and an American second.

Excellent point.

Yes. what you said.

So sorry to go OT, but I was looking for the ‘debate’ between Nate Silver and Jon Walker and can’t find it. Did I simply miss a thread? I’ve had a busy week at work and haven’t been around here a lot.

Liz Cheney is the nicest, warmest, most effective ally we have.

– OBL

Its been rescheduled

And the best fundraising tool al Quieda has since Bush left office.

OBL

Oh boy.

I agree, wholeheartedly, but I sure as hell hope none of those morans read this thread.

I can already hear the 24/7 whining over all the airwaves now. “Those EVIL libruls claim we’re terrists!” “Just look at the guy’s name that said it!” “Are you gonna let those EVIL libruls get away with this?? We’ve GOT to take our country BACK from those EVIL libruls, they’re the real terrists!”

I’ve never in my entire life seen any organization that’s better at fake outrage and whining than the right wing of this country, and they own all the airwaves to get that fake outrage and whining drilled into everyone’s brains at least 3-5 times a day.

Assholes.

Terrorist Assholes. (There I said too. An EVIL old fat guy)

YUP!!

Terrorist Assholes
There I said it also.
They truly are working for OBL all the way!! I mean what is the definition of terrorism… “spreading fear” in a nut shell that what it is.
And boy oh boy do those REPUKES aid and abet those factions that are committing Terrorist acts!!

They all should be in a deep dark cell that is 6x6x5 no window!!

I doubt Liz Cheney even, sincerely, cares about terrorism.

It is all about keeping the general population afraid and manipulating that fear for political aims.

Cheney has yet to convice that:

a) the former administration was unaware of the 9/11 plot beforehand

b) the former administration did not allow the attack to happen

c) 9/11 was not intended as a pretext to attack Iraq.

The whole thing with Liz is not about caring or even terror but pure raw power. They’ve had it for a long time and don’t want to give it up.

The whole pt. of terrorism is to use terror for political aims in the 1st place , so anyone who uses such acts to further their political aims are themselves terrorists whether they are the perpetrators of the act or not.

My thoughts exactly. It’s the same old playbook from ’02 and ’04 that the Republicans hope will lead them back into the majority this year. No wonder they’re telling Steele to STFU-he can’t help but go off message.

But fear is all they got. With economic recovery even just barely glimmering on the horizon, the R’s chances of a sweep this November become smaller and smaller. If people aren’t scared of terrorists (which they’re not-look at Obama’s polls) and they believe the economy’s gonna get better, people won’t show up to “vote the rascals out” this fall.

If somebody told me that Dick Cheney was the mastermind behind 9/11 I would say….”And…?”

And why in the HELL does that whiny little beyatch get to be on the teevee all the time spewing this total bullshit??

What the hell has she ever done?? Because she’s the daughter of a criminal former Vice President?

WTF? Where’s Chelsea Clinton all over the airwaves??? Did Gore have any kids??

GOD DAMMED THE RIGHT WING OWNED MEDIA IN THIS COUNTRY IS MADDENING!!

ASSHOLES!

The only mild disagreement I might have is about O’s pressers – given the new poll (sorry no link) that shows a majority of Americans think the Admin is handling the “terra” outbreaks about right, it might actually be because his appearances have reassured people.

Not pressing the point; just a thought. Everything else you say – absofrigginglutely.

At this point, I’m beginning to wonder if the Cheneys are on the terrorists’ payroll? They do most of the work for them.

Isn’t that the truth.

Heh. Mastermind? Cheney lacks competence to mastermind much of anything.

The right wing owns it, but the CIA controls it.

A comparison I’ve been making that I wish a frontpager would pick up on is with the Battle of Britain. In six months of 1940 23,000 British civilians were killed by bombs and missiles, including 3,000 in a single day. That’s more than seven times the casualties we’ve had in the last eight years, and Britain had about a quarter of our population.

The British were angry, but mostly they were determined, and mostly they did what they had to do. If they’d behaved like we’ve been behaving, there wouldn’t have been a pair of clean underwear on the whole island.

Part of it is that they keep saying “We’re at war! we’re at war!”, but in a lot of ways we aren’t at war. If you’re at war, casualties are expected, and when they come, you suck up your guts and continue what you’re doing. You don’t start shrieking. Obama is the one who’s doing what has to be done, and the Cheneys are sabotaging him for partisan reason, trying to demagogue military strategy from the outside, and damaging morale.

For the British, the Battle of Britain deaths were only about a third opf the civilian deaths for the war, and only 5% of the total deaths. And compared to many other nations, including France, Britain was lucky. 16% of the whole Polish population was killed one way or another — almost 6 million people.

So people should suck up their guts and quit peeing themselves.

It’s time we shit canned the Bush–Cheney rhetoric of mind control and panic. The War on Terror needs to be seriously round binned. Guys who commit suicide for religion are Religious Fanatics pure and simple. Let’s clean up our foreign policy, concentrate on improving the lives of millions and millions of Americans at home and address the issue of Religious Fanatics and Religious Opportunism and Religious Delusionism…you know , straight jacket, or at least marginalize, those who think they are “part of God’s plan”.

A suggestion:

Instead of putting up real pictures of Liz (the mere viewing of which pisses me off), could we substitute a drawing of an evil-looking stick figure?

how about her dad in a wig?

This is the type of thing that creates terrorists:

A scholar, Mohammed Taqi Khalaji was grabbed yesterday by goons from the government who arrested him, ransacked the house, carted off his computer and personal items.

As usual in these matters, his whereabouts are unknown.

Oh behave. LOL

Glad to see you got the pointless shot at Obama in at the end, there. Wouldn’t be FDL without it.

But, unfortunately, it looks like you have to be out of government to have a sane perspective on it.

Dick Cheney is out of the government and he doesn’t seem to have gotten the message. Neither has his offspring, any of the talking heads on Fox or Limbaugh or any number of idiots out of government.

I’m for that. Seeing Palin carted off in a straight jacket would be one of the best things that every happened. And do you really think that there is enough room in the asylums for Robertson, Falwell, Perkins, and the rest of the multitude of religious fanatics that are wandering around loose here in the US?