Hey, remember when the Washington Post had that brilliant idea to host a “salon” at the boss’s house where lobbyists could pay to mingle with government officials and WaPo news staff? Ever wonder what happened to the guy who took the fall for it? Well, TPM found him:
Still, it doesn’t look like Pelton has any regrets. Today, he’s out with a post at Paid Content headlined “How To Turn Journalists Into Profit Centers.” And here’s one of several of Pelton’s suggestions for how to do this:
If a media organization has a reporter covering the healthcare-reform debate, it should host a sponsored health-care seminar, and that reporter should suggest the speakers, program the event, and lead that seminar.
In other words, pretty much exactly what got Pelton and the Post into hot water this summer.
Awesome! This is pretty much the theme of Pelton’s entire post: Journalists should start peddling their services as hosts and event planners to hustle up extra cash for their employers. I mean, what could possibly go wrong?
Many organizations still believe that merely assisting in such a program would compromise reporters and editors’ professional ethics.
That’s balderdash. What counts is honest disclosure about such relationships, and holding reporters and editors accountable – just like sources are held accountable – for what they produce. In my view it is silly to anguish over the nuances of attribution rules, i.e., whether material discussed at a seminar by source-participants should be on- or off-the-record, or not-for-attribution. (This was an issue that arose with respect to The Washington Post’s canceled “salon” dinners this past year, while I was briefly at the paper as the General Manager of Conferences and Events.) Journalists spend countless hours in background conversations with sources. If they need or want to drag a source onto the record, they should not hesitate to do so….
Ah yes, of course. The problem with the WaPo salon idea was potential quibbles over disclosure and attribution, not the fact that corporate lobbyists would be paying the newspaper large sums of cash for access to reporters and members of congress.
This “journalists must monetize themselves” idea disturbs me on multiple levels. The most obvious is that that instead of generating revenue by charging for access to content (subscriptions) or access to customers (advertising), Pelton is actually encouraging media enterprises to make money by charging for access to the people who create their content. Unless the dollars are insignificant (in which case why bother?), the potential for conflict of interest seems pretty high. Pelton’s solution is for reporters to simply… not be influenced by their benefactors.
That seems easier said than done. But even if a reporter does manage to maintain perfect objectivity, how many readers are going to trust a health care story by someone who discloses that they just hosted an Aetna-sponsored health care seminar? Or worse yet, doesn’t disclose it?
A further concern is how this would skew the way media organizations evaluate their news staff. Instead of being graded on the quality of their analysis, the clarity of their writing, or their ability to sniff out a scoop, reporters would instead be graded on how much money they brought in last quarter. A sloppy hack who excels at schmoozing becomes a star, while a diligent bloodhound gets pushed out, or feels pressured to modify his or her reporting to curry favor with sponsors. (I’m not entirely convinced that this isn’t happening already.)
And then there’s the question of how much time and focus journalists will have on their reporting if they’re constantly scrambling to host and organize events. It’s hard to believe that that wouldn’t take a toll on the depth, quality, and quantity of reporting – perhaps open the door even further for newspapers to accept content from the likes of Fiscal Times.
Ah, who am I kidding. I already think most news media are in thrall to their corporate parents, so why am I worrying about whether my shit sandwich is on the wrong kind of bread?




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Eli!
Egreg!
I can’t think of anything…
CraigsList:
WaPo for sale.
Furnished.
10% discount for cash.
“If Democrats want to avoid this headache, they could follow the recommendation of my American Prospect colleague Paul Starr. Instead of fining those who go without insurance, Starr has proposed this: “For five years they would become ineligible for federal subsidies for health insurance and, if they did buy coverage, no insurer would have to cover a pre-existing condition of theirs.”"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/12/AR2010011202770.html
Yes, that sounds awesome! Instead of paying a fine, you get to play Russian roulette!
Seems to me there’s another profession that “peddles services” – same thing.
They can call it “Postitution”.
And why the hell didn’t I think of that when I was trying to come up with a title.
WaaaaaPooooo, you don’t have to put out your red light.
This scheme sounds like the same scheme that politicians are involved in. Spending way too much of their time schmoozing and raking in the almighty buck, instead of ‘Doing their f’g jobs’. So “reporters” or “journalists” will/have become Garbage in/Garbage out. Just like politicians! Yeah!
Is this any more complicated than pay-for-play? Am I missing a cosmic money making opportunity that does not involve pimping? ‘Scuse my ignorance.
Except, of course, the reporters would be hustling for the benefit of their employers, while Congress most emphatically is not. (Of course, they might disagree about who their employers actually are)
Perfect. LOL
SILENCE PEASANT!
;)
No, no, no – it’s called “monetizing”, which makes it completely different.
“Presstitution”
Even without salons, the mind-numbing incestuous echo-chambering of the MSM
is killing journalism, and our political discourse. Listen, if you can, to Bob Schieffer, Mark Ambinder and Jan Crawford riffing on the Heileman-Halperin masterpiece.
Haha! oh my I’m so glad I just put down the coffee cup. LOL
Journalists should start peddling their services …
Start?
heya Eli.
That works too, but the Post deserves some kind of recognition for their attempt to pioneer this exciting new field.
Um, no. Prostitutes earn an “honest” living, in the sense of victimless crime.* Suggest substituting pimping. Unless someone can inform me how pimping is an honest profession.
*Psychyatrists might dispute this.
Heya jayt!
I worked on Wall St. Have some familiarity with monetizing. Seems like it inflated some bubbles. But I digress …
Off topic, but……
What the hell did they do to Rachel Maddow?!!!!
Praising Obama as if he’s got the sun shininh out of his ass?!
Blabla fed profit (lie), jobs losses getting less (yeah right), wall street up (bailout bubble anyone?), ‘getting things done’ (like…what?!)
Sorry, give me the old Rachel back, did she bloody sell out to something we have not figured out yet?
Jeeeeez, that leaves only pbs and c-span then, bye-bye Rachel……
I like the “balderdash!” and the part where it’s silly to anguish over attribution…
In other words, we’re creating our own reality here, don’t bother us.
Exactly my thought. Prostitution.
Well, technically not an honest living except in Nevada. But you are correct that they don’t have quite the same kind of social responsibility and obligations that journalists do. And everyone knows that they’re faking it.
Rachel and Krugman may have been taken to the woodshed. Just guessing.
poifect!
Oy, faking it. Is that how they collect from their “clients?” Gee, if so, I missed a lot of opportunities.
What a load of BS. Quoting anonymous sources appears to be the current industry standard.
You must be referring to the Stepford Maddow.
tis a pity
It veally is.
Yeah, they’re good at finding people who apparently were found under cabbage leaves, since they don’t have names.
evening, demi!
How was your courtwatching today?
What do we need journalists for, now that bloggers are doing their jobs for them. newspapers have become “paid content” anyway. they’re all lobbyists and this butthole pelton confirms that every time he opens his mouth.
I wonder how much of this is done ‘privately’ so to speak? Simply bribe a journalist with access, parties, stock tips, or simply cold cash. Makes sense that it happens a lot, here we have the paper formalizing it. They just want to make sure they get a cut of the action. It’s cronyinsm, the money comes out of our pockets in insurance premiums, taxes, cancer research charities (Hi Ms Leiberman), corporations and PACs. It’s nauseating.
what happened to maddow is this is her big fat new tv career. thats what, she dosent want to be frozen out and she knows that will happen if she dosent tow the line. she dosent want to be marginalized as a “radical” “far left” “extremist” isnt that a laugh? if theres a radical far left extremist in america id really love to meet that guy, have chat, find out how hes managed to stay alive and out of jail.
Hence the phrase “access journalism”. They don’t necessarily get paid directly in money, but they get the privilege of being the first to get the insider spin. The insider gets their talking points out, the reporter gets a scoop, everybody wins!
Well, everybody who matters, anyway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na2W38tLp_Q
Ah ha. Just here like everyone else. :O
Regarding Rachel. Who just did a Great piece with Ted Olsen and David Boise?
I rest my case, pups.
Bribes not necessary. Anyone who has ever graduated from kindergarten knows how it works. No one needs to outloud it.
“Pelton is actually encouraging media enterprises to make money by charging for access to the people who create their content.”
That’s a good idea becuase Newspapers are dying. The political media can dip into the lobbying trough. All he is doing is applying the lobbying model of congress’ compensation to the media.
God forbid they’d have to do a Daily Kos, HuffPo, or FDL and live on advertising revenues…and he’s probably too ugly to go on TV.
In the print media I would consider that the jury has hung. In TV, there is no doubt about it.
GOOD EARTH going on……bid you all good eve
Rachel doesn’t read juancole.com. He’s pretty favorable toward the Afghan war, but his analysis on the fact that the Afghan polls don’t sample relevant populations is the key.
Left out a word earlier: I know a monogamous, married, interracial gay couple. With kid.
(Fill another square on that bingo card ….)
sorta like AMERICAN IDOL print edition
You win. My neighbors who are a monogamous, inter-racial gay couple only have four legged children. But, are they ever cute! Parents and four leggeds.
Isn’t this Faux Spew’s business model…? Aloha Ya’ll…! ;-)
Seems more efficient that way to me, envelope of cash is a lot less screwing around for both parties. Ooh a party? Sorry can’t make it, but jeez I really need to get a new laptop, ya know? You know, the deal Gruber got.
Margot – I always think of Eddie Murphy when I hear that song.
Hey, CT! You’re such a dude. Always have been.
A stellar dude at that.
Oh, I don’t know, you guys are bein’ kinda hard on Pelton.
Afterall, even HE admits the importance of FULL disclosure—-unlike Jonathan Gruber./s
*shucks* I try…! *g*
Oooooh. Sandra Bullock is on Tavis Smiley.
Another stellar.
Yeah, CT, you and Sandra on the same page.
“Spin to Win”
Krugman’s lame defense of Gruber has been quoted around the other librul sites and unsurprisingly used to attack FDL. A typical comment is something to the effect of, “He’s a SCIENTIST, not a politician, so naturally disclosing his relationship to the Obama Admin. wouldn’t have occurred to him.”
Evidently, a scientist who can’t read the contracts he signs prior to publishing op/eds.
Eli, you can bake or buy the worlds’ most heavenly artisan pumpernickel dark seeded bread, smear it lovingly with the world’s GREATEST German whole grain dark mustards, marinated and hard wood grilled sliced portabello’s, layer bermuda onions and generations grown heirloom orange striped tomatoes, leaves of radiccio, and if shit is the meat of the sammich, it’s still a shit sammich.
Sadly, our present feudalist corporate owned and operated MSM in any form lacks everything except the shit, which makes it a stand alone entree, without seasonings. No sammiches.
LeSigh.
And a mountain man to boot.
“It’s hard to get a man to understand something when his living depends upon him not understanding it.” Upton Sinclair
NOTE: According to a graph of Gruber’s contracts* bewteen 2000 and 2009,totalling $3 million dollars, it is hard to believe this was his first “rodeo”, and that he was unfamilair with the “drill.”
*See Rayne’s Seminal diary entitled “Follow the Money” posted this pastSunday
The Postulates Of Positation?
Oooooooo! You got yer chops back! Good one!
third picture down.
I really do love that quote. It explains so very much.
Good gawd… This obliterates all the facades about why we have the shitty HCR bill we have…
Obama received $20 million from healthcare industry in 2008 campaign…
Almost three times the amount given to McCain
Any more questions…? *gah*
I don’t consider economics to be a science.
If it were, their models would be more predictive, and they’d be able to see bubbles before they burst.
Just think of it as a science where a lot of its practitioners are spectacularly wrong and never pay any professional price for it.
Why would the health care industry have wanted to donate a lot to McCain?
He was going to lose. They really prefer backing winners.
Ah, voodoo ‘science’.
“Journalists must monetarize themselves”. This reminds me of the system in third world countries where jailers are not paid, and must live off the
tips sent by the relatives for the service of not beating their incarcerated loved one……..
Pelton’s notion could be extended to the judiciary. Judges hearing cases could simultaneously conduct sponsored seminars with the parties and interests involved.
Proceeds could be used to support the judicial system – the judiciary could become a profit center.
“Nice talking point ya got there, Senator. Be a shame if somethin’ was ta… happen to it.”
And by “seminars”, of course you mean “duck hunts”.
you didn’t know that?
Ya know, I was just ruminating with someone about my own education and experiences WRT writing, journalism, broadcasting and such.
In ’78 I had a guy teaching me junior college Newswriting for Print/Broadcast who was a reknowned KCBS (San Fran) News Director . . . teaching US worthlings what it was all about. Sourcing, attribution, integrity, how to fuck up a career in one moment, how to preserve a career, and how to write.
I also had great instructors and experiences for broadcasting on air at the College’s FM/TV Stations, all of whom held jobs in the industry around the SF Bay Area, if not in SF itself. Pro’s, all of them.
I got SUCH a great immersion in it all . . . and I can’t fully express without using foul language exclusively how I feel about where print/broadcast journalism, reporting, and the business of same have gone.
Such a toilet bowl. And all part of the de regulation of media ownership under Reagan and Clinton as consolidation eliminated jobs and automation eliminated jobs.
And so, here’s to FDL, and all you Eli’s and more here, who honor the tradition.
And not to go too OT, but hey, can we get a little bit of a SALUTEE for Suzanne, and how she just BEAT THE SHIT out of her first Book Salon Hosting? I mean, she nailed it front to close, and all inbetween. She honored the tradition, in her first time out . . . ya gotta love it, that the tradition ain’t fucking dead, it’s only dead on the public airwaves in in the publics print . . . .
Ok, back to the thread at hand . . .
Matching shirts? Also cute.
All children deserve loving parents. A lot don’t get that advantage. But, that’s another advantage when gays can legally marry. Potential for more fabulous families.
And, as Tavis says, Keep The Faith!
Really?
Not to that extent…! ;-)
I’m reasonably certain in failing to disclose his role as a paid consultant of the admin Gruber was following instructions from his employer. The White House was planting stories they could then cite as independent validation of their assertions. No different from what the Bush WH did to gin up support for invading Iraq.
Just as a general observation, I tend to distrust professionals who can “sell themselves”. Most professional people have to devote much of their time and energy to doing their jobs, or learning things related to them. While there are people who can do that and still have time to schmooze, the usual thing is that they do one or the other.
I want to read the work of journalists who spend their time doing their jobs, not selling them.
From all I’ve been reading of and about Krugman, he’s definitely adopted the WH modus operendi.
I don’t have cable so don’t watch Rachel unless someone posts or suggest a clip, then I hit the site and view it.
This would be quite sad if she had been reined in . . . quite sad . . . .
I can’t even imagine what the current era must be like for journalism students and reporters who actually take the craft seriously. It frustrates the hell out of me, and I have no personal stake in the profession.
If/when you watch the piece, she touts Obama’s accomplishments for contrast to past and soon-to-come Republican criticism.
She is a long, long way from being bought off.
oh, what’s the old joke, “we’ve established what you are, now we are just haggling over the price”!
Economics involves the scientific collection and analysis of data. Unfortunately, the theories posed by economists do not have to withstand the same level of scrutiny as theories pertaining to hard science.
That would be a scalandal.
I’m not free… but I’m reasonable.
No shit, I mean people get all fucking bent out of shape at the slightest thing that they don’t agree with. Take a deep breath ya’ll.
Did you catch this piece of BS…?
WTF…?
As long as we are gonna be there we damn sure better be making sure they have what they need.
Different president, same shit.
Always separate from the federal budget too but the same people getting left with the tab.
Gay is kewl and hip still . . . White House and admin policies and such, not so much.
I don’t watch her show daily, no cable in our cave, can’t afford it.
But it don’t surprise me to hear of her being muzzled, no more than the muzzling of KO.
‘Cept that’s not what most of it will be spent on. The money we spent in Iraq could have armored the entire country, didn’t stop soldiers from getting blown up… or electrocuted in subcontracted showers.
Their top priority is the Reaper/Predator program…! That’s sure to win the ‘Hearts and Minds’…! *gah*
Ok, I’m not going to get into an argument about this. see ya
Welcome Aboard, Lt. JG Tuttle!
Aye, SIR!
No argument, Bro…! *g*
i can’t go quite that far, but it certainly seems possible. even likely.
Got ya, it’s late.
How much is going to State. Is that off-budget too?
Saw awhile back where the average cost of a gallon of fuel used by U.S. forces in Afghanistan is $400. That was averaging all types of fuel (including aircraft) together. Mostly due to the expense of transporting it by truck over harsh terrain, sometimes under enemy fire.
As far as dictating who gets rich, who profits, and how, the science of economic prediction is doing quite well for the 1%. Spot fucking on, I’d say.
And THAT’S predictive as one can get, doncha think . . . . ;-)
See my #106.
Never thought about that, I would assume funding for the State Dept. is included in the budget, although it would not surprise me if it is separate. They have a million ways to cook the books.
Lose or not, he’s a Senator of great reknown within that augested body.
Worth every dime they dumped on him, too . . . .
I still want to know what happened to the $13 Billion in $100 bills, shrink wrapped on pallets, that was airlifted into Baghdad and then *poof*… No one has a clue where it went…!
I don’t think I have it here but if it should turn up I’ll share it with ya.
I must be getting old, I can remember when $13 billion was a lot of money…
I wonder, now you brought it up . . how do the instructors even look them in the eye whilst teaching it all. It’s just a paycheck anymore, the instructors can’t have any souls, or heart for the trad business . . . great point, thanks.
Thanks . . . guess we got a divergent POV from someone . . . . I trust your take, that I do . . *G*
I wrote about that in a diary a little while back… Yep, it does average it out amongst the types and it was given by DoD personnel in testimony to a House subcommittee… $400 a gallon…!
I wouldn’t blame the instructors, the employers are the problem. Infotainment is the order of the day.
What leverage does WAPO have left in America?
To thoroughly embed itself within the Ministry of Truth, that’s it, period.
And they’re particularly good at propagating Ignorance is Strength.
Hey, do you remember The Rendon Group that was imbedding reporters in the Iraq war,and was keeping running a list of reporters that were NOT writing “cheerleader” stories about Bush and the war?
Supposedly, Obama rescinded the government contract with Rendon,but I am unclear if that is true.
BTW,John Rendon is married to Sandra Libby,Scooter’s sister.
Strange how when I read this story about Pelton,the first thing I thought about was if he had ever worked for Rendon’s outfit before going to WaPo.
By all means, don’t.
Watch her intro. It’s infuriating and, from a Progressive public policy stand, difficult to swallow.
But it is in no way incorrect.
Aloha, Raven…!
And they use a shitload of fuel. One of the biggest expenses involved in sustaining the occupation.
And what should really catch people’s attention is that war funding is budgeted for $50B in – wait for it – 2015! Obama makes big speeches to get elected and all that, but whenever he moves his lips, he lies.
Hoss, if yer referring to me, I’ve heard this rumor of her muzzling in many places, don’t usually talk about it here unless it’s the comment of the moment and topical.
Seeing at least one comment in this post, and others at FDL in the past few months, that drew my attention.
I ‘spose I shoulda asked “Hey You Regular Pups, Any Truth Ya Think About Rachel Being Muzzled?’
Next time this comes up Raven, I’ll phrase it that way . . . so’s I don’t annoy ya or something . . .
I wouldn’t wanna annoy ya, ya know . . . . as Kelly might say, “yer such a mook” . . *G*
Holy Monty Python — no one expects the Spanish Inquisition!
I swear it’s those cocktail wienies…! The FDA really needs to analyze ‘em…! ;-)
Sounds like a bad case of — they are what they eat, dude.
james galbraith does a good job of ripping his own profession. i recently listened to an entertaining and very interesting talk he gave about their “colossal failures.” he starts with paul krugman’s article “how did economists get it so wrong?” and then rips that too.
http://utip.gov.utexas.edu/
scroll down to the link at:
Obama supposedly rescinded the contract after he got caught using them himself.
Rescinded and awarded to someone else, most likely.
I’m wishin they didn’t need to BE there . . .
As to give them what they need, how does one calculate that when the priorities and needs for BEING there are so fucked up in of themselves?
Money can’t save them from the politicals that PUT them in harm’s way.
And Raven, don’t go off on me . . . I say what I said because you and I both know NONE of that money is gonna help the grunts on the ground in any way, shape or form.
It’s all going to our contractors, and then to AfPak government officials who distribute to others based on what our govt thinks is a good distribution.
Missing pallets of billions of dollars, missing pallets of munitions and arms, paid for intelligence that’s corrupted and our govt KNOWS it but acts on it and STILLL sends troops into shit sitches into harm’s way without rhyme, reason, or equipment?
‘K. I’m done, have at it . . .
I wonder if they have rebranded themselves a la Blackwater/Xe?
Anyone within cable or broadcast range of northern california PBS?
They’ve been picking up contractor tabs. And, presumably, footing the bills for the world’s largest embassy.
A local cop went to Iraq to train Iraqi police. He was compensated by State. Generously.
S/ Amongst my weapons are fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope. /S
Rat, if yer teaching journalism/radio/tv broadcasting, at a private or public school, and you don’t talk about the shit job opportunities (there are none unless someone dies, for the most part and in general, are VERY limited in any sense) and you don’t teach about the fully and completely controverted jobs and employers in the biz then yer complicit in the dumbing down of the tradition of the 4th Estate, and our public airwaves.
Just sayin hoss . .. *G*
Joking? Or are we just suffering from an irony deficiency tonight?
comfy pillow?
Eventually all journalism will be constrained to 140 characters to accommodate Twitter.
It’s full employment, full steam ahead for twittering hacks like Chuck Todd.
O/T — Don’t miss this program airing tonight on PBS — check your local listings.
http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/
Awww shit, did I miss a trolling right under my nose?
Dang, slow AND old . . .
AND the twits? *blink*
Snark is strong in yas tonite, Rat . . . . ;-)
Good one.
Yeah, sure, but for every Chuckie Boy, there’s thousands and thousands who never make the show.
And ya gotta ask yerself, why did I consider a school for journ/bc when there’s no jobs, and why didn’t them tell me in my first semester? I coulda taken economics!!!!!!
thank you for your kind words up thread larue — wow (picking jaw up from floor) thank you very much
lisa has late nite upstairs
Ya earned ‘em, Sistah . . . every font of it. ;-)
Thanks for the heads up, movin on out . . . .
no. i was just trying to remember the rest of the python dialogue. sorry for being so obtuse.
Actually, I think that something like what this guy is proposing could be done in a way that it works as a public service. If everything’s public and on the record (perhaps released after a short delay), fees are reasonable (like what you’d pay for an “Open University” course), and it isn’t an opportunity for big money people to schmooze journalists, it could be a contribution to the community for reporters to have an opportunity to go more in depth about what they cover.
However, I would never trust a guy like Pelton to put it together; he’d go for charging a lot of money and putting it off the record, which would turn it into an opportunity for moneyed interests to influence coverage.
I can see that, but if the goal is to raise money for the paper, and if there’s increasing pressure and competition on reporters to bring in more, the dollar amounts and resultant influence would inevitably rise.
Well, it was a summer afternoon wedding. And one of the grooms was born and raised in Hawaii.
Unexpected, I’m sure.
*g*
I assume everyone read that Orszag dated Katherine Weymouth.