Sorry, kids, but Sarah’s getting everything she could ask for: lots of money and lots of attention. She ain’t cancelling this one.

My question really is: do teabaggers REALLY think that these are for-real “grassroots” organizing?? I can’t get my head wrapped around the cosmic disconnect here. And now they’re disappointed to learn that their “grassroots” organization is gonna charge them out the yin-yang (in a down economy) to worship at the feet of their batshit crazed/dumb superstars, Palin & Bachmann 2012?

Does anyone else hear the Homer Simpson “Doh!” but me?

Mebbe these fools will wake up to reality, but then I pinch myself to make me face reality. These fools have been mezmerized for years, so I don’t count on ‘em figuring out that they’ve been FOOLED AGAIN, sucka! And probably many of them will suck it up and fork over the big bucks to listen to the golden pearls of swinedom from their supernova goddesses. Boyohboy, the more things change, the more they stay just the same.

We’ve noticed that lately Sarah has been having a lot of problems, and she’s been going off for no reason, and we’re afraid she’s going to hurt herself. So we decided that it would be in her best interest if we put her somewhere where she could get the help that she needs.

Upside: Palin’s image might start to tarnish a bit with the everyday wingnut types who can’t afford the high ticket prices. (The new gig on Fox should take care of that over time, however.)

Downside: We don’t get to hear the wingnut speeches by Palin and Bachmann.

So who’s got money on Beck being one of the “selected journalists?”

I love it that this is all coming back to bite the parasites in the ass
May the wrath of teh teabag be upon them.

The teabaggers are figuring out that they are being played by the Republics? Quick! Marshal the resources of Faux News and get them back in line!

We’d get further by showing sympathy and understanding.

Dear Teabaggers, we support your unhappiness with the staus quo. Here are some issues on which we agree….

Federal Deficit, Let’s explore defense programs, we can agree some of these are unnecessary.
Big Ag Subsidies. We agree small farmers may need help. Big ones?
Environment for our Kids & Grand kids. We want healthy kids & grandchildren, correct?
Subsidies for Big Oil & Big Coal?
Jobs?
Education?

and so on…we are not so different.

I just finally had a chance to watch “Milk” on DVD. It dawned on me who Sarah Palin reminds me of:

Anita Bryant!

Good catch. Anita Bryant Jr.

One. Hundred. Twenty. Thousand.

She really should ask for more…

Especially since Todd gets half for doing nothing.

This can actually be seen as good for Republicans, in several ways.:
Charging this much money keeps out the rabble, who might otherwise expect their idealistic populism to be taken seriously.
It sends a message to the establishment wingnuts that they do not need to fear the Tea Party movement, since they’ll be working for the same old monied bosses.
It enables disaffected Republicans to disavow them as a scam, giving cover to those R’s being targeted from the Right.
If I’m a Republican, I see these as positives.

Of course Sarah doesn’t come cheap! She’s a “business woman” with her eye on the main chance. There are many many teabaggers who would pay twice as much to get dipped by her!

Doesn’t she? Hadn’t thought of that!

She’s more of a “bidness woman”.

I heard Ron Paul on with Ed Schultz last week, and it freaked me out that I actually agreed with several thing he said…. but I just can’t get my head wrapped around him.

Good catch.

The tea baggers are finally figuring out that the rethug party is attempting to coopt them. The 2010 election esp the rethug primaries are going to be very interesting. The tea baggers believe that party purity means much more than anything else. So if rethugs who they consider to be anything less than pure conservative get the nod then you can expect that a tea bagger will enter the race against the rethug. It will be NY 23 over and over

Snow machine Todd is lucky he hasn’t fallen through the ice, under that bridge to nowhere.

Over at Talking Points Memo some readers have “joined” Tea Party Nation to get a look at the web page as it is closed to all but registered members, and then only to those who maintain an appropriate bizarre and whacko demeanor. Without giving away how or which of their many whackos I am, let me say that the site needs to be off limits in the same way as a hospital for the criminally insane should be off limits” to polite society. The hosts, members, contributors, chat sessions, etc. are filled with lies, vile hatred, illogical arguments and pure filth. If this is what Michael Steele wants to merge the GOP with, well, that’s the best news the Dems have had in a very long time.

There are two types of teabagger:

The Ron Paul / “Infowarrior” types

and

The Rush Limbaugh / Glenn Beck “Dittoheads”.

I saw somewhere that they’re already primarying a dozen or more. I’ll see if I can find it.

The number is 16 and here’s the link.

Not exactly nothing. There is that matter of..um..placating Greta Van Susteren.

What’s wrong with Sarah pallin’ around with secessionists?

sandbagged teabaggers. tragic.

BT any chance we can get a local FDLer to attend maybe someone in the High Command could give them advice on how to hide a recording device and get it past a search? Because Sarah and Michele talking and they don’t want people to hear what they are saying gots me very interested.

Tea Party Nation, the for-profit company putting on the convention next month at Gaylord Opryland Hotel, is charging delegates $549 a pop for the privilege of attending. Politico reports organizers are asking a whopping $50,000 for corporate sponsorships. According to one insider who’s talked to Pith, Tea Party Nation hopes to clear $300,000–and he says that’s after paying Palin’s hefty $120,000 speaking fee. She doesn’t come cheap.

Even no recording device a head count to see how much the Tea Baggers take in would be good. That and I’ll trust any FDL regular to relay the gist of what was said.

The Front Pagers should post on this!

Wonder how many DLC/Blue Dog type Democrats will be facing a primary challenge.

I haven’t heard of any.

Very interesting. How long (would you estimate) before content starts leaking out? Should make for some good comedy…

I can tell you how to get it pass security.

Rig it up inside your AK 47!

I can’t recall any, offhand. Where do they get the money and resources to mount primary campaigns? Sixteen legitimate primary campaigns isn’t chicken feed, and it looks to me like the average teabagger is no better off than we are.

As a Ron Paul/ “Infowarrior” type, I can tell you that most of my ilk want nothing to do with these closed-door/astro-turfed, GOP co-opted tea partiers. Their rhetoric is offensive and non-productive. Most of Bushco’s 29%ers probably fall into this new Palin/Beck/RushPillbaugh category.

Thank goodnes FDL has commenters that can tell the difference.

Given the polling unless unemployment drops to 7% or less between now and election time the Blue Dogs are in trouble many Blue Dogs are in close races thats why their excuse for voting like Republicans.
However in a close race if only 3% or more of us stay home, don’t contribute or volunteer we can throw a race.

Small as they are nowadays, you could cram one up the handle of your Glock.

Talk about fooled, I was listening to OFA and rallying for a public option and tabling with info and petitions for the same, months after Obama had sold us out in a secret deal! I was out there with my grassroots Progressive friends and neighbors and didn’t have a clue I was just being kept distracted and being used!

Well of course a “movement” for more capitalism will be a “movement” to be suckered by the organizers. Donations to the “make me rich fund” will be accepted at the gate.

What did you expect?

I got a cell phone into jury duty when they weren’t permitted by putting it inside a lead crystal vase, which the xray can’t see thru. But they’re probably onto that trick now.

Several “insiders” do leak out stuff at TalkingPointsMemo. But Tea Party Nation traced the quotes to readers to bogus sign-ups and the “violators!” were “banned” until they could sneak in again under another flap. So quotes are avoided unless they are SO good you need to blow your cover.

We’re the Left we try not to do violence besides unless you really live in a bad neighborhood you probably don’t need a gun.
But yes if it looks like Sarah is going to win the Presidency that policy will change fast. Heck I’ll buy some gun maker stock.

Sarah is X Raying People Cripes she’s as Popular as Bush! Whats next preselected for loyalty crowds?

So quotes are avoided unless they are SO good you need to blow your cover.

Sarah and Michele competing for Queen of Crazy trying to out do each other I see allot of covers being blown. Still its good to hear we probably got people on the inside.

I don’t expect that you own an AK-47.

I was simply pointing out that TPN will probably allow guns in the sessions, but not recording devices. They are that kind of people.

Thanks for the idea. I’ll ask TPN about their policy on “carrying” at the convention sessions. Do you think Palin would attend a session that allowed guns?!

Todd’s dingbat meal ticket makes her debut tonight…

when Egos collide

Actually, staying home only counts as half a vote. If people are really angry, they should vote for someone else.

There’s no point in having an AK 47 when even states like NY will let you own a 50 cal, unless you want it’s reliability. Of course NY and a few other states won’t let you buy the serious armor piercing rounds for the 50 cal so a person would have to drive across the state line for that. Dang isn’t anything easy.

A supernova of wingnuttery. The full employment act for Jon Stewart…

I was simply pointing out that TPN will probably allow guns in the sessions, but not recording devices. They are that kind of people.

My memory of Cheney speaking to the NRA was that he didn’t let the people listening have weapons. People should only have weapons when Democrats speak. I seriously doubt they will allow people to have guns when some of the more interesting people speak.

I suggest a shoe camera al la Get Smart.

You have to love this. On the one hand you have the free enterprising Almighty Buck Republicans who see everything as, above all else, a chance to make money; on the other hand, you have the Power To The People grassroots folks—the Real Americans—who want Sarah and all the national leaders to be Just Like Them.

The genius of BeckWorld has always revolved around how multi-gazillionaires like Glenn and Rush and Sean and Bill and Sarah have managed to dupe the largely working class dittoheads into believing they’re all “just folks” fighting against terrorist loving socialists.

Meanwhile, the crony capitalist Republicans inside the beltway have got to figure out a way to co-opt this potentially disruptive faction in the conservative ranks.

Place your bets.

Maybe she’s just crazy bait, like Hal Turner.

tea baggers are mostly upper middle class, so I don’t think they will have any problem affording the tickets.

then you have to start responding to the outreach of Progressives who are tired of Obama’s business-as-usual, government of, by, and for the rich.

Folk like Jane Hamsher took enormous personal and career risks in reaching rightward, response? The chirp-chirp-chirp of crickets.

Let’s see some reciprocation from the Infowar types: the hand is out there, grab it, or see the window close and the neocons win with simpleton tactics.

I’m not getting across to you all just how looney these people are.

The issue of allowing “carrying” at the TPN convention and the sessions would be an issue of extraordinary importance to the TPN. If they don’t allow “carrying,” they will alienate NRA members, who actually believe a gun is a good thing anywhere, any time. But, OTOH, the speakers must realize that anyone with a loaded gun could make themselves instantly famous by assassinating a prominent teabagger.

I feel that this issue needs to be presented to Tea Party Nation and its full membership. A ruling is needed.

The genius of BeckWorld has always revolved around how multi-gazillionaires like Glenn and Rush and Sean and Bill and Sarah have managed to dupe the largely working class dittoheads into believing they’re all “just folks”…

The same thing can be said for the gazillionaire televangelists who dupe their flocks into sending in that CA$H, day after week after month after year.

This is a very entertaining dilemma. Um..I mean, a very thought-provoking issue.

the ditto heads and tea baggers aren’t working class. Their self reported demographics were taken down and purged from the way back machine, but the gist of the results were reported in this article.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/11/18/805783/-The-tea-baggers-arent-working-class

Wonder how many DLC/Blue Dog type Democrats will be facing a primary challenge.

Marcy Winograd is challenging Blue Dog Jane Harman in CA-36. Lynn Woolsey, co-chair of the Congressional “Progressive” Caucus, is endorsing (and raising funds for) Harman.

I spend the vast majority of my online time doing exactly that…lurking and talking with people on both sides who are a) unsatisfied with the status quo and b) willing to listen to reason and discuss issues. Getting hate spewed at me from the right for not being ideologically pure and from the left for being a “teabagger” are something I am used to at this point. I feel like an underpaid youth soccer ref trying to explain the game, but also why the game is worth playing at all. FDL has been a welcome change from the left/right blogging paradigm that most people want to corner you into before they classify your comments as “worthy of discussion”. Thanks for being so open-minded everybody.

Keep up the good work!

A lot of working class folks may join them once they find out Obama is gonna mandate insurance and tax those with health care plans.

They sure as hell ain’t joining the Orange Satan Brigade.

No, not so different unless you are brown, yellow, black or not white and want to move in next door to them, work with them, go to school with them, co-exist and breathe the same air as them.

Ya know?

The difference is huge, the commonality ever so slight, the chasm too broad . . . they will NEVER accept you if you are not fully vetted and one of THEM . . . they don’t DO ‘reach across the aisle’, and they never will.

What they want is their OWN little America built on THEIR beliefs, which don’t ‘play nice’ with others.

Spot on RodD . . . well done.

I suspect they will join left third parties, to get medicare for all. Why would they join the right satan brigades who are even more greedy!

Teabag High Command consists of a few players working for the corporate overlords.

That’s big money interests backing what is a ‘pseudo’ Teabag Effort.

It’s one that will appease the ‘lil teabaggers’ to SOME extent but not let them be actively involved in the ‘real action’ of influencing any outcomes.

Lil Teabaggers won’t be allowed to put people up to run, but WILL be allowed to vote for the corporate stooges.

This is all a very cleverly crafted effort/movement to corral a lot of votes, create a ‘mythical’ engagement for the Baggers, and at the same time continue the disenfranchisement of all the little people, their incomes, and their taxes, savings, etc.

The Tea Baggers masses will never know what hit them . . . but as others are saying today, they ARE being played to the max, and they ARE already being marginalized within their own ranks . . . fiendishly clever plot and being executed flawlessly.

It’s taken me a while to figure some of this out . . . despite all the info on corporate sponsorship of the whole Teabagger Movement and it’s birth last year . . . .

And it’s definitely negating and impairing efforts of any progressive sorts to move things along in any progressive manner, on all fronts . . . . hence the beating we are taking on healthcare. We are being negated, at each and every turn, step and in every manner on every issue.

Clever bastids they is.

The tea bag reform movement has been hyjacked by Glen Beck, Dick Armey, Sarah Palin, etc. This is the majority wing of the Republican party and they are NEO CON warmongers and pro Wall Street. They are dangerous Globalist just like W. Bush.

The true reformers are the Libertarians and smaller sector of Republicans who are against the warmonger NEO CONS and want to abolish the privately owned Federal Reserve Banks. This includes Ron Paul and former congressman Jim Trafficant.

There is common ground for the Libertarians/Republican types and the left wing Democrates. Both these groups should unite as the new Libertarian party and defeat the corrupt main stream Republicans and Democrates. What do you say?

I don’t seen any difference when it comes to issues of ethnicity, misogony, homophobia . . .

Of those three issues the baggers and the libertarians are of the same accord . . . it may be more well hidden and subtle amongst libertarians, but it’s full on embedded in the group and culture of libertarianism.

Both are still waving the Confederate Flag . . . .

Maybe it’s because of where I live but I know quite a few libertarians that are much more liberal than you describe.
I also know a few people that call themselves liberals and think failing to follow the current Democrats is akin to treason.

The confederate flag isn’t all that popular in a good chunk of NY state except among the relocated southerners. We were mostly on the other side.

I don’t want to eliminate social security. I want medicare for all. The Libertarians want to get rid os social security, and don’t want national heath insurance. We can unite on some issues, like auditing the fed, but our interests and are demographics do not mesh on most other issues.

Instead why don’t we both split from the main parties simultaneously and eliminate the spoiler effect. Progressives join the greens and split the dems, and the paleocons split republicans and join the Libertarians.

Oh, I see. Thank you for pointing out my hidden (even to me!) bigotry, misogny and homophobia. Those broad strokes that you just used to fill in my entire ideology were just the nudge I needed to keep working toward this coalition against the status quo.

So without asking me a single question, you dismiss my entire presence here? Do olive branches have thorns?

There are all sorts of folks and all sorts of views presented at FDL. Sometimes we’ll agree sometimes not. Hang around and we’ll find what common ground we may.

Can we agree that these NEO CON crusader wars need to stop? What is more important than that? Next, the Federal Reserve needs to be abolished and the US treasury nationalized. Once this gets done our nation will have trillions of dollars is surplus revenue. Your income tax will be stopped, inflation will stop and social security will be solvent again. The reason why we are not getting medicare for all is because Wall Street and the bankers do not want it. If jobs were plentiful, like they used to be and inflation was low, Americans could save for their retirements and health care would be affordable. You need to realize that the insurance and banking industries and an unregulated and bloated government take wealth out of your nation, because they do not produce anything.

the “orange satan brigade”. by that, i think the ignoramuses on the right mean daily Kos, and if thats the case, im gonna start calling Kos the “orange satan” too cause its funny. whats even funnier is i googled “orange satan” and it linked to a goony wingnut blog the “Jed report” which is even waaaaaay funnier, and very apt.

Glad to hear there’s a small pocket of rational folks in NY State . . . .

I was speaking of the group at large, I think I made that pretty clear, and my points stand to the group at large.

As to YOUR own particular flavor of libertarianism I have no clue . . . . I REPLIED to your comment, I RESPONDED regarding the group at large.

Your welcome.

I realize that they don’t produce anything, and we can unite with the Libertarians on those issues, but I don’t agree with the Libertarians on social security, welfare, minimum wage, global warming, or medicare for all, so there is no basis for me joining their party or supporting their candidates. I support the green party.

Who is the coward behind the curtain that is censoring me at this web site. You must be a racist just like Larue because you allow her to do your dirty work. I have no respect for you or this Website. You just want to continue with the Dems. VS. Republicans and no third party. You are no American, you are Loser with a capital LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL !!

They haven’t been any more sandbagged by the people behind the teabag revolution than we’ve been sandbagged by the people behind the Obama revolution.

Lawrence Mishel is upstairs!
Employer Health Costs Do Not Drive Wage Trends

The silence was deafening wasn’t it? With all of MSM looking for dem. wars under the covers and around the corners. Then when one really happens on the nets. nothing. Kos pulled off the attack dogs after it became known that FDL was getting a lot more play.So funny.

Hey…I am for a third party too. First thought was Peoples Party before I realized the name had been taken. All I’ve got is a slogan…No Taxation Without Representation…all else is tyranny.

But of course, Obama’s time is not up. I still like candidate Obama.Seriously.

That’s a good idea.

Ooooh, that hit’s ‘em right in the hypocrites.