For those ninnies who think New York City is not brave enough, strong enough, or organized enough to manage a competent security arrangement around the Khalid Sheikh Mohammed trial, I offer you this:
New Year’s Eve in Times Square, only one week after the underwear bomber (around the FDL water cooler we now call him Fruit of the Loom bomber) scared the poop out my Congressman Pete King, the rest of metro New York went on with life.
NYTimes is reporting that despite cold rain and heightened security, a million people went out and partied in Times Square on New Year’s Eve. Yo, Petes King and Hoekstra, are you paying attention? A million people DEFIED AL QAEDA and went ahead with life as planned.
One of the ways we beat Al Q is by ending national policies that cast us as “ugly Americans” and winning the hearts and minds of the Muslim world. The other way we win? If we stop giving Al Q mad props every time they try to scare us. You see terrorism doesn’t work if nobody is afraid of you anymore.
Which is why it’s such a good idea to try KSM in NYC. Treat him like what he is, a common criminal. Not a great boogeyman, not an arch criminal, not a martyr, just a guy who could not make a success in life living within the social contract and resorted to life on the wrong side of the law.
Or in other terms, a failure.
Really, you guys have got to give up the Cheneyite notion of “exceptionalism”. Cheney uses the idea that the US is exceptional to try to justify the destruction of all the best features of the US — like separation of powers, adherence to the rule of law, belief in civil rights – that might give our nation a claim to being exceptional.
Cheney the draft dodging coward also spread the false notion that Al Q is somehow exceptional, different from all the other ragtag groups of disaffected malcontents who cannot hack it in civil society – the loners, the guys who don’t have friends and can’t get a date, the guys who twist beautiful religious ideas into something dark and unholy, the fuckups in life who need to take revenge for their own failures by trying to literally blow up and destroy regular folk solely to punish them for leading normal, happy productive lives – are somehow elevated into comic book arch villains that no regular law enforcement effort could possibly deal with. Got the Joker? We need Batman!
There are no special criminals, there are only people who break the law and people who don’t; people who keep the social contract and people who won’t.
Al Q is not exceptional. They are no different than any other international organized crime syndicate. Fortunately, we “get” that here in NY, even if one of our Congressmen does not. Thank you to the revelers who flooded Times Square on New Year’s Eve, proving once again that New Yorkers know better than anybody else how to deal with criminals who try to scare the planet with large scale acts of terrorism, treat them like what they are, pathetic losers who could not hack it in the real world, and against whom, the NYPD and FBI are the most effective tools for keeping us safe; not pre-emptive war.



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Thanks Cindy!
Echoing the epic August 2006 Kung Fu description:
I remember before 9-11, watching New Yorkers out in force for the Millenium, despite all kinds of dire predictions from all fronts.
There’s a reason why the cameras come to NYC to usher the New Year in – lots of celebrations, lots of places, but eyes turn to NYC.
LOL – sippy cups a 20 paces? Scary.
These people do not wear uniforms they have no allegiance to any country ,they are not soldiers they are not warriors they are criminals. Cowardly murderous common criminals .
They should be tried as the criminals they are ,they are not soldiers or warriors, just low life scum
Oh I hope all the folks that ignored the current nazi regime warnings were knowingly unafraid just like we were safe in the 1960′s by learning to duck and cover under our little school desks! lol It is ashame that the fearmongering seems to be winning in most of the country. I wonder if the people in Wyoming hide under their beds whenever Cheney invokes the muslim bogeyman? Do they take their favorite sheep with them for companionship?
Unlike the brave souls who rain death from remote-controlled aircraft.
Amazing that 58% of Americans want the Froot of the Loom Bomber waterboarded. Absolutely amazing.
he is talking. and, as said here a few days ago, that stuff about not being able to question him.
that aint true.
they can question him all they want and do.
they just cant use what he tells them to prosecute HIM.
the gooper booga booga machine should watch law and order, not 24, if they want a better view of how the CJ system works.
A dork with a dysfunctional crotch rocket like what’s his name can’t defeat America. Cheers to the good people in NYC for not surrendering to the terror of terrorism.
Stepped away
think how easy killing becomes ,when it can be done by remote control from thousands of miles away.
talk about a disconnect from your actions
Eg, thank you, I did not see that they first time.
It was very funny, and spot on!
Actually, the Millenium Bomb plot is a perfect example. It cost a ton of Moolah to keep Times Square safe, but the NYPD had their act together and got the job done.
Bravo, Cindy.
1 million New Yorkers conduct massive strike against al Quaeda.
Just by not being afraid.
Exactly.On.Target
Tell Spencer
Too easy.
Ex-Gitmo detainees help al-Qaida in Yemen.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34646439/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa/
Rasmussen Survey: 58% Favor Waterboarding Christmas Jihadist
http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2009/12/rasmussen_surve_1.php
Guess who spent much time and effort to convince the people of the US to let any Gitmo detainees go almost as soon as they are captured? And guess who hammered away at waterboarding throughout 2009 to the point our intelligence community was severely crippled when it came to dealing with terrorists?
I guess you people can’t be right about everything.
Happy New Year Pups (:>))
Now back to the Winter Classic @ Fenway Park!!
And Billy, they should be mocked.
They could not hack it in the real world so they had to go off to play GI Joe. special forces edition–at some makeshift camp run by the black sheep of a rich family.
They are channeling all their action figure fantasies and revenge fantasies (that are usually worked out playing video games ferchristsake)
If these dweebs had anyting happy or worthwhile going on intheir own lives they would not be willing to to commit public suicide. Nor would they be willing to live in caves or do any of the other crazy shit OBL wants them to do.
Snap! I wasn’t that keen on my post title. I should let you be my headline writer.
what have we become?
they and their leaders should be mocked , not feared, they are clowns and nothing more
Ah, Tinman? Those two moochs were released by Bush Cheney, to go do “art therapy” in Saudi Arabia. The Bush’s are supposed to be so super tight with the Saudis, how was it that they could not release them to Saudi for proper, legal internment there? The Saudis clearly did not hold these mutts in a proper manner.
That’s on Shrub and his puppetmester, not progressives.
The guy is already cooperating, what good would waterboaridng do? It is more likely to make him either clam up, or to invent false information to get the torture to stop.
WATERBOARDING DOES NOT WORK to get usable info.
spent about 10 minutes over at the rASSmussen poll factory. You cant find the wording of that question, or the cross tabs over there.
As to the wisdom, you can find this:
Five-four-three-two-one … It’s 2010, and 39% of Americans say they plan to make a New Year’s resolution.
According to the latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey, 54% will pass on a first-of-the-year resolution this time out, but seven percent (7%) haven’t made up their minds yet.
Among those who are making resolutions, 93% say they are at least somewhat likely to keep it. Fifty-three percent (53%) insist they are very likely to do so.
THE HEDLINE SAYS 93% SAY THEY WILL KEEP IT.
SO KEEP YOUR POWDER DRY ON WHETHER WHAT IS GETTING OUT IS REAL. THE TINMAN LINK WAS TO SOME RIGHT-WING SITE, IT WAS NOT TO HEAD-UP-YOUR- ASS POLLING
Although women are slightly more likely to make resolutions, men claim to be more likely to keep them.
Let me get this straight… some incompetent clown gets on a plane and burns his butt and weiner off so we should torture him for information…. that’s one giant WTF!? to the nazi morons proclaiming such a thing… please stay in the midwest! lmao
“A dork with a dysfunctional crotch rocket”
I like that description!
It’s the “you people” phrase that is the wingnuts’ dead giveaway for their contempt for people, ideas, laws, etc.
Of course the problem with the trial is the wrong perps are being accused of planning 9/11
Ms Kouril are you prepared to file an amicus brief with exculpatory evidence?
if so contact me, I have loads of it.
Doubt that he has any info. I don’t imagine they blow up their best operatives – just some lowly, slightly dumb person.
Does the Rasmussen poll say why 58% are for waterboarding the guy? My understanding is he’s been a regular chatty Cathy since he was arrested. What need is there for such measures if the subject is giving up what he knows without them? Just for the hell of it? What are we, advocates of the Spanish Inquisition, now? No progress in centuries, or worse, backsliding, would indicate a certain retardation in our society.
Btw, it was the Bush administration that let many Al Qaeda out and sent them to some sort of re-education camp in Saudi Arabia because they said they knew the cure for extremism. It was not Dems, Progressives, or Liberals.
And lots of surveillance videos being taken by the NYC PD and the joint terrorism task force.
“A dork with a dysfunctional crotch rocket”
any reject willing to roast his junk, has more than a crotch rocket that’s dysfunctional
Excellent post, Cynthia. New York, LOVE YOU!
I think we demonstrated our “exceptionalism” with the Massachusetts Bay Colony’s massacre of the Pequot in 1637. Of course, the Sand Creek massacre occurred after our exceptionally rich founders wrote the constitution institutionalizing government by their kind, proven by the Ludlow Massacre.
tinman is just that.
I think the underwear bomb/burner was completely obsessed with the fame of Jeff Dunham’s puppet character ‘Achmed the Dead Terrorist’. Dunham should be brought in for questioning IMMEDIATLY! lmao
happy new year cynth!
happy new year pups.
eCahn, you were working on a good buzz wehn I left last night. how’d that go??
There’s little doubt that holding an innocent guy for years at Gitmo will, indeed, radicalize him. I’m pretty radicalized myself, watching my civil liberties shaved away by Bush and Obama.
Blue Texan’s regularly scheduled post is now available: “Looking Back at National Review’s Predictions for 2009 (Hint: They’re All Wrong)”
Sorry, dude — the Gitmo recidivism number-citers are notorious for spewing bogus numbers. Repeatedly. Frankly, I’m astonished that there aren’t more Gitmo inmates who have turned to violence — if I were wrongly arrested and jailed for years on end, I know I’d be wanting revenge against the people who did it to me.
Oh, and Rasmussen is not exactly a trustworthy pollster.
Tinman likely doesn’t care — he just gets excited to think about torturing brown people. Better than Viagra for him, I guess.
New Islam terror title to all would be suicide bombers- ‘Wait’ll we get our Hanes on you!’. wahahaha Seriously folks, wouldn’t jamming a couple of sticks of regular old dynamite up someones ass be easier and more effective than burning underwear and shoes? jeesh what maroons. Now all TSB people checkers will have to search and sniff every one’s underwear before we get on the plane! I can hear them now ‘All shoes and pants off please! Is that an M-80 taped to your genitals or are you just happy to see me?’ Or maybe ‘Did anyone put anything into your underwear prior to boarding that you don’t know about?’. Yeah we’re sure safer now. lmao
Exactly! You make these guys literal martyrs by inflating them to be dangerous monsters — it just gives their tactic, terrorism, even more power.
Indict ‘em as common (but violent and dangerous criminals, just like the hundreds of others we have around here), use sensible security but give ‘em fair trials and all the trappings of real justice and what happens? We stop being afraid of them — and this is how you beat terror.
Not by being more afraid, but by being less.
Ann — the reason for those numbers is because those 58% are using ‘information’ as the excuse, but the reality is what they want is retribution and bloody revenge…and there’s a distinct current of outright sadism, unfortunately, that’s infected our society.
Yep. Our society is THEORETICALLY based on Justice, but too many Christians are all about teh Vengance. It’s all through the Bible, after all. Maybe with a non-dysfunctional MSM we could overcome that, but I’m not holding my breath. Welcome to 2010! Things are going to KEEP being interesting…
Agreed!
I say go by the book, it will make it easier to execute him. However, if he wants to be a martyr maybe Super Max would be better.
Both Mark Shields AND David Brooks just called Cheney’s “Obama does not admit that we are at war” OpEd silly
Woot!
Dick has jumped the shark with the MSM.
Oh, sorry, it just happeneed on PBS’s NewsHour