Destiny’s Child — Say My Name.
On December 12th, I wrote President Barack Obama a letter and wrote a Seminal diary about the letter and my frustrations with his adminstration. In my letter – sent via the White House website – I checked the box that I wanted a response. If ya haven’t read that diary, scurry on over and take a gander at it so we are all up to speed.
*humming Jeopardy think song*
Ya back? Great – ya didn’t miss a thing.
On December 23rd, I received a reply. I gotta say, any good will the White House intended in its response was lost in the salutation:
Dear Friend
I gave my full name in my letter and it is not in the salutation. I was a legal secretary before I joined the force. I used macros in correspondence in the 1970′s to personalize form letters. I know how much my input was valued when the White House phones it in and doesn’t even bother to use my name in its reply.
Let’s see what that response was:
Thank you for writing to me. I appreciate hearing from you and value your input.
Each day, I am moved by the messages I receive from people across the country. Far too many Americans are struggling–falling behind on mortgage payments, coping with illness, or losing a job without warning. My Administration is working to address the serious challenges our Nation faces. I am committed to taking immediate steps that generate job creation and economic recovery, and I am determined to make investments that lay a new foundation for real and lasting progress.
To build this new foundation, we need health care reform–this year–that reduces costs, protects health care choices, and assures quality, affordable care for all Americans. I encourage you to visit www.HealthReform.gov to learn more about my commitment to enacting comprehensive health care reform in 2009.
I am also dedicated to building a clean energy economy that creates millions of jobs, helps us achieve energy independence, and reduces pollution as we tackle the effects of global warming. Please visit www.Recovery.gov to read about the more than $60 billion in clean energy investments my Administration has made to jump-start our economy and build the jobs of tomorrow.
To prepare our children to thrive in the global economy, we must guarantee every child a complete and competitive education. For information about my education reform agenda, please join me online at: www.whitehouse.gov/agenda/education.
At the same time, we have an obligation to rein in our budget deficit by cutting wasteful spending and ineffective programs. We can do all this, and change the way business is done in Washington, by building the most open, transparent, and accountable government in our history.
While we repair our communities, we must also recognize the important contributions of our service men and women in Afghanistan, Iraq, and other nations. Our military and their families have borne an enormous burden for their fellow citizens, serving with honor and succeeding beyond any expectation. For those who have been injured or lost their lives in pursuit of our freedom, we owe them our undying gratitude. I am committed to assisting our servicemembers, veterans, and their families and honoring our debts to them.
Information on jobs, health benefits, housing assistance, and other public resources for those in need can be found by calling 1-(800)-FEDINFO or by visiting: www.usa.gov.
The only way to solve the problems of our time is to involve all Americans in shaping the policies that affect our lives. I hope you continue to explore www.WhiteHouse.gov, which is regularly updated and more interactive than ever before. Thank you again for writing.
Sincerely,
Barack Obama
To be a part of our agenda for change, join us at www.WhiteHouse.gov
You see anything in there that specifically responds to the issues raised in my letter? Me neither. I got a generic form letter that is probably sent to anyone who isn’t a somebody and writes the President.
As Beyonce sings in the video, I’m not one to sit around and be played. Barack Obama had no trouble saying Suzanne when he wanted my money for his Presidential campaign. He knows my name when he wants me to organize locally for OFA. He knows my name when he wants something from me but not the other way around.
Did you get a reply? Did he say your name?



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Suzanne! Happy new year
eg! happy new year
Suze!
Hey, at least you got a response, which is more than I have gotten to the dozens of emails I have sent over the past year.
Suz, sad fact is –
He’s just not into us.
Well, I got a response….oh you mean from President Obama :)
hey dr dick — i wudda been less pissed if it was ignored instead of this generic form letter. really left a bad taste in my mouth
Well, “Dear Friend”, although neither is appropriate.
Hey Suz!
hey kelly *sigh*
hey newton — no shit. talk about getting the brush off
Yeah you’d think they could make a little more effort and get the name on there. Is that so hard?
Sounds like the same bleeding form letter his Senate office used, which is same one my lovely senators use. Morons.
Dayam, Suz…! Are ya pulling double duty tonite…? ;-)
Yeah. Generic form letters are all I get from Mad Max and my worthless corporate Rethug Representative. It is rather annoying when they obviously have not actually read your email and fail to address any of the issues in it.
not at all — i was using macro’s back in the 70′s on legal correspondence…. just plug in the name and address etc into the program and presto chango a form letter is personalized
But I liked your letter.
No. Especially for as tech savvy an administration as this one.
I still can’t help but wonder how fast the response would have been if you had said you had a 100K in bundled campaign contributions.
Later you could inform them that the contributors had all changed their minds because they think your administration SUCKS.
hey gregory — we are their forking bosses — ya would think that we would not be brushed off so easily
Sort of like those stupid letters from DiFi. Obama is as responsive as DiFi.
Shit.
Dear Suzanne,
On behalf of the president happy new year and thanks for all your support!
Your vote is in the mail.
hey ct — es has lln duties tonight…
And yanno, FDL is a much smaller, less well funded outfit than OFA, and I ALWAYS get a “Dear Kelly” when there’s a call to action, and not all of those are about money either.
Dumb and tonedeaf and incompetent to SOMETIMES use yer name, and other times not. And I thought “competency” was supposed to be a hallmark of this administrations much vaunted pragmatism.
Harumph!
I have to give Max and (*gag*) Rehberg credit for having different form letters for different topics (from the drop down list on their congressional email page).
“Stand by, one of our trustees will be there in 20 minutes…”
mary mcc — at least difi’s stupid form letters were sorta topical… this one is a wide net to cover all their asses and doesn’t provide any cover at all
hey mac — thanks (laughing)
hey rat — guess it confirms my status as a nobody to this administration
All your contribution are belong to us
The message is different when the dood is already in power. How he is going to sweet talk us next time is a mystery.
“Come over here and sit by me. I will make sure you get a social security cost of living raise next year, baby. I will fight for universal health care just for you, baby.”
Universal bullshit. What is that old saying? Fool me once, can’t fool me again?
was dayam hard to write this without all the swear words i uttered when i first read his ‘response’
Hey EG, I didn’t bother sending a letter. I’m trying not to boil over and writing a letter would probably not be wise.
Careful you don’t travel to Ireland anytime soon.
Something like the PBS Pledge Enforcement van in the Simpsons episode “Missionary Impossible.” Tried to find a video but no luck.
hey margot — the response i got sure as hell didn’t encourage me to write again
:)
There’s a signature line of a DKos poster, can’t remember who exactly but it goes like this, snarkily challenging the 60 vote Senate meme:
November, 2010; Sorry We Just Don’t Have The Votes
Also begs the question, why’d you have to wait so long for a freaking automated response?
The only people the administration thinks they need to pay any attention to are the ones to their right. We DFHs simply do not count (I am not sure that we even exist in their world).
now that i finally convinced the gov’t that i’m a real person and they issued my passport i’m gonna have to try a border crossing this spring.
“Climb out onto the roof, and a C-17 will swoop down to collect shortly. Watch for the humongous butterfly net.”
We’re just a flock to fleece.
11 days is way too long for an automated response
Blackwater is on their way to help you find your checkbook.
doesn’t encourage me to vote again.
Howdy Mac!
We are as disappointed as you are…thanks for always trying and for sharing. We love you Suze…
I have been waiting more than 9 months for some of my emails on the stimulus.
Call.
Him.
Out.
Very well said, Suzanne. Too long to wait for too weak a response. It’s the 21st century for crissake — WANG machines had mail-merge in the 1970s. And as you rightly point out, OFA and the DNC know your name and call you by it when they ask for money or favors.
Get it together, White House. This way lies disaster.
Howdy Boy Friend!
Wonder how they’d react if you said you were planning to take him to court for unpaid child support?
Conversely, Florida Goober Charlie Tuna Crisp sent my employee Bill Data a card like this:
Dear Mr. Bill Data,
Congratulations on your new management position. You are a gentleman and a scholar. Your strong work ethic, handsome good looks and lively personality will be a great benefit to the Jolly Rubber Company.
Sincerely,
Goober Charlie Jesus H Christ
Signed in blue with an autowriter. Brilliant marketing.
aw thanks ocean1
That barely qualifies as phoning it in. It’s about the same as I got from Anna Eshoo in response to biosimilars questions.
I’ve been writing to politicians most of my life. Lee Hamilton was helpful. Richard Lugar’s staff actually engaged in informed correspondance, read books I sent to them on drug policy and responded showing they had done so.
Lately I’ve not had anyone in power feeling that engaging with informed constituents is worthwhile. The triumph of appearance over substance is nearly complete.
I have been writing and complaining to Obama for the last five or six months. I haven’t received jack poo but I didn’t request my own special non-response.
I read somewhere several months ago that there is one person in the WH who looks at actual letters – not e-mails – and chooses 10 every day for Obama to read. We might all try that and see if we can light a fire under them.
hey teddy — thanks — high praise from someone who calls folk out far better than i ever could
Even Newt Gingrich used my name before his canned replies to my letters.
I have unsubscribed to as many as possible of the Obama lists and each time given the reason. You have betrayed the trust of the people. Of course no response expected but I hope they are keeping track.
WANG Machines!
Those were 10 inch disks I do believe.
Just saying…
that is just so forking wrong dr dick
Is that like a Jack Russell/poodle mix? Sounds cute.
arson shall get you nowhere
hey wmd — yup — i’ve always gotten back a response that at least faked being a personal reply.
hey twain — i like that! and ask them to say your name in reply (laughing)
They would just stamp our letters with a big DFH and throw them in the decontamination bin.
Or we could send him a t-shirt.
“I voted for change but all I got was another lying asshole in the White House.”
I like the subtle approach… :-)
hey talkingstick — they had better be — there are a lotta pissed off folks who are asking the same questions
I have the feeling that Pres. Obama won’t be breaking any fund-raising records next go round.
heehehee.
I actually have a jack russell/doxie mix. Insane dog. Cute though.
hey susand — he sure as hell won’t be getting any $$$ or volunteering from me with this kinda attitude
Pretty safe bet Wall Street, Aetna, and PhRMA will make up for any drop in grassroots support.
Sure he will.
It’s always “the most expensive election in history” and it’s a bit of a lie that MOST of his donations came in small denominations from “the base.”
He’ll get more money, just from fewer sources, wink wink.
Rockin’ New Years on TV, Carson Daily said we have health care reform (to be thankful for the new year).
Carson daily is a tool.
I think you linked to a picture once. Looked like a sweetheart.
And “the suits” will appear at your door and you will be disappeared. Poof !
Said it before, sayin it again.
Just like Obama in the Senate.
Great campaign, inspiring speeches, mediocre service.
Still beats the pants off the other options which were available and the previous 8 years, but not by so much as one would hope (TM).
Not another dime from this re-jaded cynic.
Hey Suz, pups.
HAPPY NEW YEAR ! ! ! !
Well Suz, I guess I don’t feel so bad now not getting a response, even though I sent mine the very day I read yours. You’re right, getting that worthless piece of shit IS worse than nothing at all.
They probably don’t even read it, which is a shame, because yours so well written that I could feel the passion in it.
Assholes.
Wow, I didn’t realize the “enemy combatant” bar had been set that low… yet.
Happy New Year, OFG!
She is. A bit neurotic cause Suki came from an abusive first home. They locked her in a crate all day and couldn’t figure out why she ate the house at night. She still hates being picked up. Wally the Best Dog Evah takes really good care of her.
hey mack — i’m so tired of voting for the lesser of two evils — i really was hoping that pbo was a positive change
hey ofg — you shudda gotten a response dood. that is just forking rude. happy new year dood
Hell, I never had very high expectation for Obama as I knew he was a DLC-lite centrist, but he has even disappointed me.
She did get a website to visit, that’s 21st century right there…! ;-)
Rush Limbaugh got the Palm Beach prosecutor off his back for $30,000. (By agreeing to pay $30,000 for a legal excuse the prosecutor came up with).
Obama will get us off his back in the same way with the aid of Big Insurance, Big Pharma, Big Nukes, Big Coal, Big Oil, etc.
A lot of people crate their dogs all day. Breaks my heart, I try not to think about it.
When I get mad about our non-president I think of all of the people who attended the inauguration. I wonder how many have lost their homes or jobs or lives.
I know the “big guys” have more money, but they don’t necessarily have more votes. For example, if Corporation Really Wealthy donates, say .. a million dollars, that still doesn’t guarantee that every employee they have will vote for “their man/woman”. A million dollars won’t necessarily bring in a million votes.
You know that movie “Daybreakers” or something like that, where the vampires are panicking because they’re running out of humans to feed on? I feel like we’re the humans. They (corporations and politicians) will keep us just alive enough to feed off us. They’re not willing to invest more than the bare minimum in us. And when they figure out how to get by without our votes we’ll get nothing from them.
If you cannot take proper care of an animal then don’t get one.
Hey Obama’s workin on it. Its in the letter. ;)
hackworth — ya really need to get a new goober — sorry didn’t see ya come in
Thanks RF!!
Gotta say, haven’t posted today but did lurk. Your brought me to laughter once again with your retort in the thread about that the program the Brits and some others are using to control crime from junkies.
Literally LOL’d a lot.
Nothing new from you though, I’ve had to clean up several spews as a result of you. Hope you have a great New Year too, and thanks for all the laughter. It’s worth more than you’ll probably ever realize.
They are working on it to be sure. How much further can it be to declare a state of emergency and shut down elections?
.
Am I paranoid?
They got the money from us and bundled it and put it in Switzerland. They will send Obama some bundles for tv ads. Obama is making laws that will let them steal more of our money. We are at a breaking point already. No jobs.
I don’t think they will go that far. It has to be clear to the powers that be that they will always get their way, no matter what the people think or want.
Interesting. The response was a PR message they are trying to cover their shit with.
Hope for change is gonna happen just you wait while we give the farm to the corporate cronies. Fooled you once shame on you. Fooled you twice shame us. Send it to Kos!
Are you paranoid? I don’t think so. But when you ask the question this way:
Are we marginalized?
The answer is Yes, in my opinion. And that’s the exact point of Suz’s post.
If we start be uncooperative en mass who knows what they will do. Maybe they are paranoid. Sort of like the Goldman Sacs people arming themselves.
hey bb — not even good pr
yep.
Hey Big B!
I voted for the lessor of two evils for the first time to put PBO in office. Made a lot of phone calls, donated $$.
FISA Amendment cloture vote made it clear he wasn’t going to walk the walk he was talking. The prospect of President McCain got me back to supporting BO during the general season anyway.
We have to do better.
I’ll say it again – this year state legislatures. Decennial redistricting. 2012 Congress (and presidency?).
The ‘illusion’ of a representative Democracy is the last thread they have to hold the populous together. If they abandon it, they are asking for that which we are not yet willing to do – stop the country’s remaining industrial capacity in its tracks.
never happen
holy moly — almost 100 comments in 38 minutes
To politicians we are statistics. Hi everyone spring is on the way time to start those seeds if you have a greenhouse.
I think you struck a chord.
My son crated his for awhile when he was a puppy, broke my heart too. It’s too bad he lived so far away or I would gladly watched him during the day.
Got to keep him a week this spring when he and his significan other took a cruise. Goddammed fell in LOVE. Cocker Spaniel, with eyes that’ll melt hell, IMO. He used to come over when I was on the computer, lay his chin on my knee, and just look at me with those eyes…. it was over. Any attempts at defense were done. He got what he wanted.
Speaking of which, I didn’t get to see my son over the holidays, but he sent me a link with photos that he and the “family” took for the holidays. Gotta say, even though he’s my son and I’m bias, damned beautiful family.
If it’s inappropriate to post here, the mods can delete, but here’s the photos.
Damn having a kid TOTALLY redefines the word love. I used to look for excuses when he was young to pawn him off on my parents to do things I wanted to do. Looked for opportunities to get rid of him. Then when they’re grown and gone and you’re lucky to see ‘em once a year… you wish for opportunities to see ‘em all the time.
Funny old world.
i guess so. and to think i was nervous about this prime time front page time instead of my usual hidden in the dark lln (laughing)
need the password to see those photos dood
I think one of the ways to make the point is not to actually protest Congress or the Whitehouse.
Imagine motivating over a million people to show up at Wellpoint HQ and Regional HQ’s after this healthcare abomination passes. Cnadles and Chanting. Much less the CEO’s house.
That would shake their shit RIGHT up. You wouldn’t need gun one, just a bunch of humans appropriately placed, and asking for what they want.
HOW INSULTING!
Back to read comments.
I like that idea. Maybe we can get Windel Potter to go.
I guess they felt it wasn’t worth the effort, no effing WAY possible they’re fooling me again.
But I did check that box that requested a response.
Assholes.
Ah, that warms the cockles… of my heart that is. :-)
Yeah. Sort of like the Igbo women’s old institution of “sitting on a man” to get justice.
hey loohoo *waving*
OH!
Shit sorry. Didn’t know that. Sorry, I have no clue what the password is, all I did was click the link they emailed me.
*shrug*
Just in case you missed my Obama gift idea.
no problem — sorry i couldn’t see what a fine family they are
At least you received a response. I got nada.
OFGuy, I have the same reaction. Be so mad and pissed off about something and then, I’m cracking up…makes my day.
Nice try anyway…more than most I bet. FDL could start a list for forlorn Obama/rhama letters. Titled “What they did not read.”
I think you’re quite rational , Mary. Informed, even.
Dammit, another spew!!!
This one beer too! Smell will be around for….
Oh well. Still worth it.
Would so LOVE to have that T-Shirt though.
Would love even more to be able to wear it.
Interesting! I never knew about that, but that’s why you’re the Doc, eh? :)
Anyhow, the idea I wrote about is mostly Spocko’s, in this iteration.
He and I had traded some emails a while back, and the gist is, “Look, if it’s the Corporations that are as much a problem as the government, why not hassle the Corporations even MORE than the government?”
(((Margot)))
Thanks,emerson. I needed that.
hey emerson — how was your new years?
Me like Margot, too.
Now if you said you worked for Goldman Sachs, they’d have sent a limo to pick you up for a private chat in the Oval Office, brunch included.
crap — that is just so forking wrong tbsa *sigh*
Most awesome gift idea everrrr.
Do you know how it is that I don’t know the password, yet can clink on it and it shows up?
Just curious how they do that. Another spooky reminder of a Big Brother, or Big Something.
Same here. Did you check the Response Requested Box? (Or whatever the hell it was)
I expect the form letters – my rep does that as acknowledgement that my mail got to his his inbox. I don’t as for anything else, because I know I won’t get anything else.
My senators aren’t any better. And I don’t even bother to check the ‘reply wanted’ box at the WH; that way they don’t have to lie any more than they already are.
I expected at least a form letter. When I write Boxer, and Sci-Fi, I at least receive a form letter in return.
If I was more entrepreneurial there’s probably money to be made. Doesn’t infringe on any copyrights.
Too lazy, though.
hey pj — we should be able to expect the people who work for us to respond. however i would like to receive a topical response instead of a generic canned response that goes to everyone.
probably something in the link they sent ya in the email
I would second that. Or third it. Or whatever it.
Response are flying by so fast I have no clue what number I am.
If we were, what kind of socks could be made from that fleece?
(probable answer: they’d be full of holes.)
Yes, I did. I honestly didn’t expect a reply. The letter was pretty direct. What can they say really? “Oops we didn’t mean to fuck you and your family over”
Could be easier than you think, RF. Have you ever looked at http://www.cafepress.com/ ?
Start checking so they can rack up the Bad Karma points. Plus, you deserve a response. You paid for it. Or will, if they have anything to do with it. I am surprised they haven’t mandated a service charge for the damn form email/letter.
i object to form letters that do not at least address the issue writen about. i didn’t expect pbo to actually dictate and sign his response to me but do wish they had taken the time to read it instead of sending me this crappy go look at these sites letter.
I like that shirt.
Maybe we ought to get a bunch made up for fundraising?
It seems like they want to lose this year. Fuck over your base and see what is gets you. You’d think they would learn.
Unfortunately even FDL which I have been a member of from the first few months have never answered my emails… that applies to Jane and Christy.
Can’t touch them…
That’s life.
You’ve got a cookie set that lets you in.
a family getting fucked is exactly what our respresentatives are supposed to pay attention to.
Ditto. ut in my wildest dreams never thought the sellout was to be so humongous. The future has been sold.
The first email he sent me had this link with only a few, instead of the whole album. It was flikr, IIRC.
Does that one require a password too?
i sure as hell hope that is not there plan drouse — but it is the message they send when they tell me that i don’t even rate the use of my name in a reply
Well, Jane can spend her day answering the 1,000+ emails that she receives, or she can go out and kick butt on television and bring down the wrath of the progressive blogosphere onto Congress. Your choice.
I made screen printing art as an occupation for decades. Wouldn’t be a problem. Print out a vellum positive and give it to a screen printer I know.
But… too lazy. Feel free to use it with my blessing but if you strike it rich you gotta buy me dinner… Okay, lunch. Well, at least a soda, anyway.
OK, time for me to toddle off. Too much wine last night and am coming down with a cold today. Take care all.
i can’t speak for them but i can say that i do reply to the email i get — i’ve had to spring some from spam filters for some reason (hope i got them all) but i do reply
of course, i don’t go on tv and i don’t have anywhere near the amount of emails they get
I’m pretty confident there is a growing market.
Maybe they have a maximum quota of lies a day??? Because that would be another fucking lie.
They meant to fuck each and every one of us “little folks.”
Assholes.
G’nite. Hopefully the cold is just a mirage.
In front of Congress would be better. I’m game. Just waiting for a game plan.
Exactly. You should get a staff member that can at least send you the relevant response. Any boilerplate in the response should at least be relevant to the points in your letter, a generic canned response is insulting.
Happy New Year’s Suz! Well. I was going to stay in, but decided to get off my azz and go to a party. Good Choice.
Electric music house party complete with guitars, bass, drums, organ, mariachis, three microphones, 3 crazy people I knew and 12 (even more) crazies I didn’t know. What a riot! Party broke up at 4 am. I sang mainly Bruce, Beatles and Dead.
You woulda loved it!
Read your LLN today.Looks like I woulda had fun there, too. Congratulations to all of us for the spike through the heart of the 2000′s.
that worked.. ohmystars…. thanks ofguy
HNY!!!
Oh, Suzanne, I had to laugh at the “response.”
I used to work in a Congressional office answering mail. I can still compose letters like the one you received in my sleep.
I keep posting about how the Congressional “mail receipt” scheme works, urging people not to put a big bunch of effort into composing works of persuasive art — ’cause they’re just not read by the member of Congress.
I don’t think it’s going too far to imagine that the WH works the same way.
Evening good sir.
Be well.
I guess POTUS thinks he doesn’t owe us any explations for his actions. Or our questions do not merit answers.
Happy New Year, pups!
On January One, on a Friday Night, you guys just put up 161 comments… in sixty minutes…
It’s going to be a Hell of a year
Holy shit, even the more-or-less form letters I got from my Reps and Senators had my fucking name in it.
Wow.
This is not the kind of “transparency” that I thought we were going to get from this administration…
sounds like a blast dood
Happy New Year, Suzanne, Late Nite pups
Yeah, I know. Day late an’ a dollar short.
exactly thejoz! not the change i voted for
Well, my rep wants zip-plus-four, because his district includes only part of this one. I don’t mind that, it’s the only place I use it. He’s usually too busy to come back from DC, and when he does, it’s not any place on this side. (frigging gerrymandered district)
hey sd — hippo gnu deer to you and yours
The question is;
Is There Enough Chocolate For The Work Ahead?
I’ve gotten one from Christy, but you have to remember how many they’re probably getting.
Any idea how I would get the cookie though, since I never knew the passord to begin with?
It’s really strange, or it is to me. I opened up the email he sent, clicked the link, and saw the photos. Would the email have included a cookie that I was unaware of? And if so, what else might be in there?
Guess I really don’t know even about computers. Gonna talk myself right out of opening up any more emails in a minute. Won’t be long till I won’t surt these toobz either, I guess.
Happy New Year to you and the tigers, SD!
That would be particuarly galling to me as well.
Hell, no!
Needs More Chocolate.
And two minutes later a fundraising letter.
That depends on you.
Hey SD!!!
Happy Happy to yah!
see what happens when ya bogart all the chocolate
karma has a wicked sense of humor lurk
Sounds like a cool party!
Hope you got a chance to hear the version of Auld Lang Syne we found last night.
They don’t even bother reading them to the point of discovering the subject?
So THAT’s why we have to pick a subject first huh??
Goddammed Assholes.
Yeah…it just…wow.
You’re right though, they are real good at knowing my name when they want my money. But if I were to write to them? I just become a “Friend”?
I would write him back, mail his letter back to him and say “If you can’t even get my name in your form letter I am not your friend” or some such verbiage.
Generally I have to say I like the idea that Obama swayed some Republicans to vote for him. It shows that not every Republican is a batshit insane Teabagging moron.
Remember, you may want your vote back now…but I have, since 2004 (first year I could vote) never for a Republican. And I want my vote back too at this point.
Welcome aboard, wherever that may lead us.
Bob make a lotta noise for ya last nite?
You my fren, honey.
Not a big fan of the Boxer briefs?
I’m starting to wonder how many emails they receive. I sent my letter the day I read Suzanne’s diary. So far nada. Not even the response Suz got.
Yes, forgive me, for I have sinned.
~~~nom-nom-nom~~~
Goddammit! Gotta go.
The assited living joint just called and talked to belch and said that they sent my father-in-law to the ER at Lutherans via ambulance.
Yep. I’ve gotten pretty good at translating. Something like, “Why the f*ck are we up so late?”
Happy New Year, SD. So enjoy your peaceful Caturday stories.
i’m a former livelong registered republican (as i told pbo in my letter). i switched over to the d shortly after i moved up here last year.
i’m not real happy with the d’s either at this point but they are better than the r’s. i’ve always been an issues voter and not a party line person
There is NO such thing as enough chocolate.
(((Kelly & FIL)))
Good luck. Sending best wishes to belch and family.
Dang, OFG! I can see why you fell in love with that cocker. What a doll! Your kids are wonderful too!
I gave up trying to email DiFi. Never got a real response and then she just spamed my inbox with her miserable newsletters.
took 11 days before i got my reply — i’m hoping the holiday is the reason responses are delayed
Well, I received a fund raising request via email today and they used my first name in the salutation…The letter was so awful that I wrote back asking how stupid they thought I might be and that I would never, ever donate to a neoliberal who so far had impressed me as being the third term of Bush.
word, bro
Neither of them have the balls to send me fundraising requests after the letters I send them. Haven’t voted Sci-Fi the last two times she was up, and I won’t be voting for Boxer this time around either. I’m done with these sell out assholes.
Hi eg! No, I didn’t . Got a copy still around?
hey mauimom — didja use the writer’s name?
That reply is now against the law in Ireland.
(((kelly)))
*hands on monitor*
Some friends told me they went skinny dipping in the ocean this afternoon in the buff,,she was combing out her wet hair. I was tenpted to say…yeah we watched you on NSA satelite. BigBrother is watching you,
I thought that was funny until I noticed a video cam on this laptop. I thought I heard Hal say turn on the camera for me friend.
hey royaloak — they know my name when they want money but when i write them….
ooops.
Here ya go a very Scottish version.
Here is my version of the Obama T-shirt
HNY to you, Lurking Mod!
heh funny you should say that. Little Nagi just pinned big Feurae and was kickin’ his butt. They lurvs to play kitteh.
All good thoughts, Kelly.
You should be able to see it under privacy settings – look for a cookie associated with the site.
Probably not helpful for very long as most cookies have a short shelf life.
*standing on chair clapping wildly*
Hi Mary. I can use the video cam for online board meetings. Glad to hear the song in your chirp.
Know you won’t see this, but best of luck.
(((Kelly, belch and dad)))
We don’t register by party here in Virginia, so I am not a registered anything.
I have voted for only D’s in the past 5 years because quite frankly most of the Republicans that run around here, at least in my district, are generally closer to (though not necessarily in bed with) the super-Christian really conservative types, and that’s not who I want representing me.
Hell, the guy who ran for our state House of Delegates as a Republican…his platform for voting for him was simply that he used to be in the Navy, had a family, and was a God-fearing good Christian man.
That’s it. I have no idea what he stood for. That was it.
Needless to say, he lost by about 13 points…and then immediately, apparently and allegedly, skipped town and the country. He owes media outlets here tens of thousands of dollars and the SBE has fined him $250 for not doing his finance reports or something. Yeah……..
I voted for Glenn Nye (VA-02) last year because Thelma Drake was as good a Bushie Rubber Stamp as you would get, so I was sick and damn tired of her. I did not even know what the Blue Dogs were, let alone why Nye’s joining of said group might matter.
Needless to say, I want that vote back too….
Lately I’ve either gotten a lot of emails soliciting donations, or pols patting themselves on the back for voting in favor of the corporations. I just hit the “unsubscribe” button. Used to let it go just so I’d know what they were up to, but enough already.
Precisely.
Know our names, understand our plights and problems and are sympathetic to them…IMO no one should donate to any politician who obviously responds to a corporate master versus the citizenry. Let corporate money carry them.
chirp.
I am glad to be back from the Big Easy.
Same for me. Never bought the promise, but did not know there werer so many gullible people. Aftereward they always say well I tried.
LOL, that one works too!
yikes thejoz — bet you are not the only one
Tom Campbell might be worth voting for in the GOP primary. Unfortunately you have to register R to do it. He at least has had good views on the War on (some) Drugs.
Second that emotion.
Barbara is fine. She’s better than most senators by far. DiFi, on the other hand…
drouse — congrats on getting the 200 :)
I’m trying to remember how much stink he threw up during the recall.
Hugs and best wishes for Kelly and family.
Yeah, that what it seems like. If you can’t write a check that has at least six zeros on it, you might as well be shoveling shit into the tide.
And a heart of gold as well as a long list of assets and talents.
Just discovered I can spell check by r clicking mouse!
When I dropped off one of the Democratic Party mailing lists, about four years ago, I got a mail asking me why I’d left. Of course, I’d never been asked my opinion about anything before then–not even a checkoff form. All I got was requests for money. I realized that this was a classic “clueless soon-to-be-ex” moment, where they guy suddenly realizes that his wife is about to leave him and asks why. Well, guy, you might have asked before I was so unhappy I was ready to leave.
Not that it matters but you could just call me “joz” for short, haha. It is a little weird seeing “thejoz” typed out over and over is all =)
Anyway, this district is actually R+ something PVI, so it’s pretty conservative on the whole…military presence here is big, blah blah blah. But Nye won on the “wave” by like 3 points or something, so. I was thrilled cause he sounded intelligent and moderate – and I don’t mean the MSM type of “Centrist” type of bullshit but I mean someone who did not sound like an overly partisan ideologue one way or the other, someone who was going to try and – gasp – vote based on what he thought was going to be beneficial to most of his constituents.
Not sure I know that that’s the case anymore…which is a damn shame because other than the anti-progressive part he really does seem to be a genuinely nice guy.
hey raven3333 — very valid point.
Barbara is better than DiFi, was responsive to my former partner on Pediatric Brain tumor registry. DiFi didn’t bother to write back to a constituent with a son with a brain tumor. WTF?
I don’t remember what Campbell did during the recall.
if you call me suz i’ll cal ya joz
Here’s how it works: each Congresscritter [Senator or House member] divides up issues [environment, health care, etc.] and assigns them to particular staff members. The “upper level” staff member [usually termed a "Legislative Assistant"] follows his/her assigned issues — seeing & evaluating what bills are being introduced on those subjects, talking to other staffies of a similar level, preparing the Congresscritter for hearings, etc.
For “important” correspondence on the staffie’s issues — e.g. from NRDC or Planned Parenthood — the upper level staffie will compose a respose. Initially this response will be reviewed & okay-ed either by the Congresscritter him/herself, or by the Chief of Staff. After a while, as the Congresscritter gains confidence in the Legislative Assistant’s judgment & writing ability, he/she may be allowed to compose & send out these letters without “supervision.”
Now, for letters from the lowly likes of you & me: these are handled by a series of “legislative secretaries,” the folks on the bottom of the staff totem pole. Either an LA or legislative secretary will compose the “form letter” that’s sent out for various issues.
Basically at this [your & my] level, the Congresscritter doesn’t give much of a shit what you think or what your reasons are; you [and I] are not important.
They will keep a tally within the office, so they can see that 26% of their mail on health care is opposed to Obama’s “plan” or in support of it or whatever. All they really want to know is the “numbers” — like polling – so they can figure out which way the wind is blowing among the few in their state/district who care enough to write.
And their only purpose in writing back to you is to try to “convince” you that they’ve “heard your concerns,” that “your concerns are very important,” that some stupid list of things is being done to address your concerns, and that they “will keep your comments in mind as this issue comes before us.”
So yeah, short answer: in a minimally competent Congressional office, they will have different form letters for different issues. But no one — either in Congress or the WH — is slapping his or her head after reading your letter and saying, “shit, I never thought of THAT argument. Now I’m changing my mind and becoming less of an asshole.”
I can only be blamed for the male in those photos. The female and the dog were totally someone else’s fault.
I swear.
*g*
Mr tbsa and I have been trying to figure out what we’re going to do in the next election. I changed my registration to Decline to State. I can’t vote for anyone who would sell out a woman’s right to her own body. I also can not vote for anyone who has consistently sold my family and this country down the river.
so forking sad
Not true for me.
Can’t tell, are you sayin’ you’re fer or agin him? “g”
LOL. Sure thing suz!
I am curious, have you gotten a lot of crap from people you know from your switch to the Dark Side?
nope — more like a buncha what took ya so longs
I’m DTS myself at present. Voted R in 2000 to vote against W in the primary. I’ve been independent my whole life and usually “throw away my vote” by voting for third party candidates in general elections. 2008 changed that and I finally cast a cynical lessor evil vote in the general.
I can’t see supporting Whitman or Fiorina, so trying to keep them out of the general makes sense and I may be registering R to do so.
So his response is below a acceptible level. Either his staff is clueless or they really don’t give a shit.
Nite Dr. Dick
Thank you, eg. That’s the most poignant version I’ve heard. It’s nice to be reminded not only of those who’ve gone before us, but also of the emotions we are still privy to experience.
So true. What is worse? Selling out the country like the repugs do and we expect that or selling out the country like the dems do and we are surprised, then we feel a little guilt, then anger, then depression, and then we accept the fact that we have years more work to get rid of the crooks and bastards.
i spent some votes trying to keep out bad apples in r primaries
I agree, just a flimsy excuse for the incredibly lame Boxer briefs joke (comfortable, yet secure).
Thanks emerson. Was responding, as all the late night pups do, by offering a song, realized this one was good enough to share.
Unfortunately, that’s probably gonna limit your choices to zero. At least of those on the ballot.
That makes alot of sense. Thanks for the insight.
oh shit — sorry dr dick — didn’t see that you were leaving
g’nite and g’nite to any other leaving sleepyhead i may have missed
Reposted from my own blog:
“It may be better for you, but it will be better for the super-rich,” is not exactly a rallying cry.
Thanks!
Right on
I am part of Peace Fresno. The group is very fractured at present. Half of them are establishment people. The other half is trying desperately to figure out what to do in the next election. I’m so done with these bought and paid for politicians.
I’m going for the 300!
woohoo loohoo — ya think we can hit that elusive 300 in the 20 minutes left before es posts late late nite?
*heh* Buckle up and enjoy the ride…! Btw… I hope you’re all given the same kevlar-nomex apparel that Suz sports…!
*g*
yes we can!
? What
roger your last
I am sure we can.
Well, your son has wonderful taste in women and doggies!
Here’s one closer to aid the way.
tic toc mary mcc tic toc
Just a reference to Hal.
Be nice if our ballots included an option to vote for “none of the above.” The write in is not the same, since people don’t write in the same candidate. If a majority of votes were cast for “none of the above” the parties should then be required to start over and nominate new candidates.
5 above here, windchill -13 below. Supposed to get really cold tomorrow night. Thinking of making the official transition to long pants. If I keep procrastinating though it’ll be Spring.
Heading out, splendid evening to all.
I think a tactic we might have is to do a massive, left-blogospherewide switch to independent from democrat on the same day.
i think we can
D’oh…! ;-)
“It may be better for you, but it will be better for the super-rich,” is not exactly a rallying cry.
It’s more like I’ve got mine, fuck you.
Good night Mr. RF
g’nite rat — stay warm
Ah hell, I should stick around til 300.
Night Rat.
that’s the spirit rat!
Evening RF.
Same here too.
Niters to everyone, and to everyone a Happy and SAFE 2010!
Peace.
That would be REALLY good. Perhaps some of the assholes would notice.
g’nite ofguy
Sounds like a promising new years resolution
good evening and happy new year to all-
A race to 300? I’m in.
We need you. Write quickly. Think quickly.
hey rond — always good to see your fonts
Nite, OFG.
I have a feeling we will get past 300.
I made a late return to an earlier thread and came across “ratfoodism?”
g’nite OFG
Yes.
Ordering a blue one
Like the anime!
Is it 300 yet?
And a pleasure to see your threads, ma’am!
What is ratfoodism?
Yes again.
300! woohoo
yay rat!!!
evening, everyone {watching A Tale of Two Cities)
*RATFOOD!*
We have us a winner!
ratfoodism-quips from a famous commenter on FireDogLake know for his lighten fast wit and funny-nis.
hey ppd
With 13 minutes to spare
Hafta ask Mary.
The phrase “Fuck me to tears” has been a part of my standard lexicon fot years. I never expected my own party to take it to heart.
Hello RonD! HNY to you and the Queen.
NOTA.
instant runoff voting.
Both make voting more meaningful. IRV in particular does away with “wasted” third party votes.
I campaigned on both of these in ’94 and ’98.
Looks like it’s 300 tonight, Suz — another battle at Thermopylae
Aw shucks!
(((Mary)))
is what i thought of immediately but you said it much nicer
We need a big push to get it into the UrbDict!
not ratfoodism but “a ratfoodism”
I think Loo Hoo gets #400.
Heh!
Oh geez :(
jeebus crackers, “friend.” That is quite the brush-off. *spits*
sorry i’m late to the party, took me a while to thaw out when i got home (currently 7 below, 23 below windchill)
Well, we’ll darn well have to hurry!
that 300 would not have been possible without each and every one of you participating in tonight’s discussion
*bowing deeply* thank you
So I missed 300,I’m just heartbroken(sniff).
Yer famous, get used to it.
Yay!
Thanks for a fun thread y’all
Hi and bye RonD!
How are the eyes, ndfg? (besides being cold)
hey ndfg — totally pissed me off before i had even read the body of the letter
then i got even more pissed off — good thing i waited to write this up
how’s your eye?
Happy New Year Suz and all Pups!
I’m so late, for late night, and in trying to catch up, missed most comments!
Best to all here.
g’nite again ratty
hey ce — happy new year
Well, there’s always the zed on lln.
In Belushi-speak, “It’s over when we say it’s over!”
Oh yeah!!!
And this was before the era of computers. So i was typing those things out individually.
Hell, I want my vote back, and the last time I voluntarily voted for a R (and just about the only one, I think there was one other time) was 1972. Pete McCloskey, congress.
Loo Hoo! And a most happy happy to you and yours.
For Politicians… Right…? ;-)
time for me to head out — haven’t had dinner yet and i’m starving!
g’nite all and thank you so very much for your warm reception to my not late late nite post tonight.
Sorry I missed you last night, CE. Conked out.
I’m making you some tea right now. With a cinnamon stick in it.
Wonder what would happen if we started sending those to the spam filters on our mail boxes. All of them.
Bob-famous non-dishwashing bird of the famous ratfood. Bob has been known to quote ratfood at the most inopportune times. Ratfood has recently discovered that Bob has been reading FDL and is occasionally commenting. Ratfood did not know that Bob was political. Turns out that Bob is an animal rights activist. That is why he doesn’t do the dishes.
nite suz!
Ratfood! HNY to you! You’re famous, dude!
And justly so.
C’mon M’dear…! You’re a popular gal…! ;-)
HNY Rat. Nighty nite.
I like that!
Signed,
Mrs. Lupner
Hi Chris, happy new year! It’s cold here and snowing. Dry dry snow, looks like diamonds.
eye is sensitive to the cold, ie it gets achey but that could just be my darn sinuses since i’ on antibiotics for a sinus infection.
Can we hit 400 in 7 minutes? Cuz i can’t stay up late tonite *g*
night, Suz – take care
Nite Suz… HNY!
My letter of November went unanswered, but then I didn’t check the response box. What really ticked me off was a caller early in the fall asking me to pledge the same amount we sent in 2008. When I said, hell, no, she shrieked at me that I PLEDGED (early phone call to innocent MrCE), and I hung up.
Good night, Suz. Next time you send a letter to the WH, let us ALL sign it!
Nite Suz!
mmmmm! thanks margot, hits the spot on a cold nite like tonight
You should have told her that pledges were broken that were made to you!
“Oh Todd!”
HA!
Jane has tried to raise that issue up a notch. It is a woman’s body how can anyone ina democratic society take away that choice? Ca we hold Obama/Rhama’s feet to the fire?
nite Suz…
Nite Suzanne. Well done!
I love the snow!! Hey Margot, snowed all day. We are having the longest fire in my memory, now over 15 hours!!!
I had to not so politely tell someone a few days ago not to call again because hell was going to freeze before I give the DCCC any money.
Good night Suz. Have a good dinner.
hah! i like that reply! Mind if i borrow it?
I’m making five pounds of fudge tomorrow.
Ok I think you made it past 300….
I remember when I first found fdl, and was amazed at how fast the liveblogging threads would stack up. This thread is kind of like that. Great fun.
It is all yours.
May I put your name in for replacing DiFi?
Well done, Mr & Mrs CE
I don’t know, but I have 2 daughters and I don’t want anyone to make reproductive decisions for them. It’s insulting and infuriating.
Are you sharing your fudge?
Your address, please?
I would expect that “our” repesentives to ignore us even more.
Yes you may. I bet she won’t run again. I bet a lot of them won’t.
Damn,
Sometimes I’m just NOT quick enough on my feet…
yeah, write-in campaign!
MaryMc for Senate! Hell yeah.
I’ve decided to debate the callers from dncc and dscc. I explain that I give to individual candidates, and that giving to them could get us a Ben Nelson. They finally give up, and I haven’t gotten a call in months.
By my clock it is past ten. How am I supposed to get the zed if LLN doesn’t happen on time?
Mary, how’s about it. Really grass roots!
For the time being the FDL pac is the only place I’m going to donate.
IRV is a pain (in various parts of the anatomy) to actually implement. Been there,way too familiar with it – fans know it well from Hugo ballots. ‘Rank in order of preference’, and we always have NOTA on the ballot. (Sometimes it even wins. We don’t have a do-over for that, because it’s a legal win.)
“…woman forced to divorce taking California by storm. Feinstein insisting on Diebolt renewal.”
I say the same Loo Hoo, and they haven’t called me since my hangup. I’m thinking of sending the donation envelope back empty of money, but with perhaps a copy of my pay check with the medical payment showing…
Go me!
(What have I said?)
lln is up! Senator McCurnan got the zed.
Good idea, Christine.
Jeebus, we nearly did hit 400 before LLN went live ….
Just about got there.
Good Grief Charley Brown I jusy caught up with the thread!
Obama is
Congratulations Suzanne on a wonderful Late Night thread!
“California state dinners to feature Jambalaya,” Sez new Senator, names Nahant head of Protocol.
He doesn’t seem to be in a very sharing mood.
400
Loo Hoo!!!!
President Obama,
The progressive activists and voters of this country whom you have so cynically ignored know now what change we can make believe in truly means:
And now … you know … what we know.
I tell them that as long as they support blue dogs they won’t see any money from me. Sometimes I spend a bit of the caller’s time to lay into them about what’s wrong with DNC/DCCC/DSCC.
Hurting morale isn’t a bad tactic.
holy moly — i go away to eat dinner and ya’ll give me a 400 comment thread.
wow — whatta way to start off the new year!!! thank you each and every one of you
Whew!
Thank YOU!
:-)
601
Well, that sure was a stirring reply, wasn’t it? If it’s any consolation, I’ve now told the Obama campaign three times to take me off the list. I’m still getting the junk e-mail.
Nice to know that they’re paying attention.
Happy New Year, everybody.
Hey, Suz, I was looking for this thread…and then got distracted. I got a response that was worded a bit differently…maybe they have random spit-outs. The only time I’ve gotten an honest response was years ago during the Elian Gonzales debacle….Elton Gallegly’s office sent a true response to my letter….and he isn’t even my congresscritter. From Obama et al….not so much.
welcome back, suz
Hi dearie
At the very least, it wasn’t the Bush administration, frend.
Just like Dan Lungren, my GOPig rep. I wrote him letter after letter, always complaining about some stupid thing he did. (I wasn’t a STALKER — I’m talking 6 letters.) To this day, he writes me all his emails, asking my opinion on things. I have tried to delete him from my in box — it even says at the bottom of his letters that if you don’t want to be on his mailing list, click this link. But unlike some (sane) links, when you click it, you don’t get a message saying “Sorry to lose you”, it says you have to jump through 1,000 hoops to get off, including a questionnaire.
What a pig. Now I just delete it before opening. But worse than that are those politicians who send me snail mail. That REALLY makes me mad. Invariably, the snail mail letters are expensive — heavy paper and envelopes.
Obama is the latest (once) well-marketed political phenomenon. He really does mean well but he cannot understand why that alone is not enough. Take some comfort in the fact that the impersonal non-responsive non-reply was just that: nothing personal. It’s no reflection on the merits of your letter since President Obama of course never saw your letter.
You might, all the same, expect something better than what you received even if it was from the hand of some low-level correspondence aide. In that, I can’t much fault your expectations other than to say that the government is, frankly, simply “broke” —in this case I mean that in the financial sense though of course it is also thoroughly “broke” in just about every other sense, too, as far as I am concerned.
Here’s my consolation offering:
Oh, yeah, P.S.
You can get the government to “listen to you” anytime you’d like them to. You simply pick up your phone and call someone who, for whatever reason, worthy or not, is currently being tapped and kept under sureptitious surveillance.
Simple.
Oh, yeah, baby, that, too, is “Obama”.
Sure he will, what with the Big 3 automakers bailed, banks bailed, wall street bailed, insurance companies bailed….bigger question…who’s gonna get bailed next in exchange for *cough* re-election dollars.
I sent a suggestion months ago and asked for a reply. I didn’t even get a form letter in response, so I guess I’m even less important than you.
Hey Suzanne, At least you got a reply.I sent a letter the same day and so far zilch, nada, nothing.
Suz ya broke 400 whoopee!!
And TELL BO to get your name on any correspondence he has with you…
I have sent a couple dozen comments on that same web site and have always checked the please respond box and have never gotten a response, even a form letter. So you’re one up on me.
shell — it really blows that so many of our political representatives use our writing with valid concerns as a means to list build for donations instead of responding to our concern.
huge cohen fan — thanks so much proximity
and i agree — obama didn’t change the snooping on us so he owns it now. just like he owns every other boosh policy that he campaigned against but did nothing to change once in office.
hey canadianbeaver — big oil?
tesseral, that is just so forking wrong — none of us should be unimportant nobodies to those elected to serve us.
hey mchank — thanks for reporting back and letting us know.
there is just something so wrong on so many levels when we the people are ignored. sure didn’t think the change would be to ignore us.
hey texasaggie — ya would think that bo would know not to mess with a texas aggie (laughing)
i must say i am most disappointed in this administrations response to folks who take the time to write them with concerns.
the lack of a response sends its own message — one that i would have expected from those forkers in the boosh administration and not from a D one.