WaPo has a long article with terrific links to an email trail from AIG. The article essentially message tests the defense arguments in the civil or criminal prosecutions of AIG and its Officers and Directors. When you are working up a case, it is helpful to have a timeline to enable you to get a handle on things like cause and effect and “what did he know and when did he know it”.
Timeline
July 11, 2007- The major securities ratings services begin peppering AIG with questions about subprime mortgage exposure.
July 12, 2007 – A member of the AIG Audit committee convenes a meeting at AIG’s HQ at 70 Pine Street. Joe Cassano, chief of the Financial Products Unit at AIG puts on a dog and pony show to quiet concerns from the Audit Committee.
July 13, 2007 – AIG chief credit officer Kevin McGinn writes in an email ”We are getting questions on the subject from all three rating agencies, the OTS [Office of Thrift Supervision] and PWC [Price Waterhouse, AIG’s auditors]. I am giving highly edited versions of AIG sub-prime exposure material to the rating agencies (e.g. nothing on mezz etc), unless they explicitly request it.”
August 2, 2007 – During a conference call between AIG executives and senior people at Goldman Sachs, GS demands that AIG post additional collateral to demonstrate that it can meet its obligations on policies sold by AIG to protect against losses on mortgage backed securities.
August 13, 2007 – The Wall Street Journal publishes a story called “AIG Might Be Deceiving Itself on Derivatives Risks”
August 15- August 31, 2007 – More questions pour in from rating services Moody’s Investor Service and AM Best, and AIG’s auditors Price Waterhouse.
September 20, 2007 – Elias Habayeb of AIG wrote an email to the Financial Services division telling them that they had to be prepared to defend the “fair value” amount that they were putting on their exposure related to the policies written to insure the mortgage backed securities.
This is an area that will receive heightened attention from analysts / investors and is also on the audit committee’s radar screen. It is the most significant item in financial services for Q3. Further, it is a possible area where we may receive a comment from the SEC on.
September 30, 2007- AIG’s 3rd quarter filing.
October 31, 2007 – Cassano sends an email to other AIG executives with proposed language for a public statement trying to spin the following as positives:
1) AIG is able to charge far more in fees and points for its credit default swaps (the policies that insure against losses in mortgage backed securities) because
2) AIG’s competitors have lost their appetite for writing these kinds of policies
Digression #1 –OK, so all your competitors have backed off selling a product, AND you have been getting weeks of inquiries about whether you have enough collateral to pay off on the policies you have written with respect to this same product, AND a customer to whom you have sold a ton of this product is demanding that you put up more collateral to back up this product, AND the reason that you can charge more for the product is that everybody else is afraid to write any more policies like this…..
SO, YOU THINK IT’S A GOOD THING? Nah ah, “Danger Will Robinson! Danger Will Robinson!”
November 7, 2007 – AIG reports a $352 million decline in the value of its credit default swap portfolio and the possibility of another $550 million in future losses.
November 8, 2207 – In a conference call with AIG’s investors Cassano pooh poohed these write downs saying it was the fault of uneven accounting procedures by the customers to whom AIG had sold the insurance policies on the mortgage backed securities. He said that some of AIG’s trading partners were valuing those securities at 55¢ on the dollar [could that be Goldman Sachs?] while others valued them at 95¢ on the dollar. He does admit that if the lower number turns out to be the correct one, there could be huge losses for AIG, but assures the investors that AIG had plenty of assets to meet any collateral calls.
Digression #2 – There is a 40% variation in the valuations of the same deals? How is it possible? We’re not talking about somebody forgot to “carry the one “ type minor math errors here. We are talking about difference of millions and billions of dollars, and there isn’t a more precise figure? What, did they just guess? Or throw darts at a board with random numbers? How could they not know what these policies might have to pay out?
You cannot believe this a good thing? Nah ah, “the threat level has been raised to ORANGE”
Later in November 2007 – AIG’s auditors Price Waterhouse report to AIG that it may have a “material weakness” because they did not know how to value their credit default swaps. A material weakness is a VERY BIG DEAL under the Sarbanes- Oxley Act and must be both reported and corrected. A material weakness is a fault in the internal accounting controls of a company that could lead it to make a “material misstatement” of AIG’s value and fraudulently inflate AIG’s stock price.
Digression #3 – A material misstatement is a big deal under Rule 10b-5 of the Securities Exchange act of 1934.
Rule 10b-5 states:
It shall be unlawful for any person, directly or indirectly, by the use of any means or instrumentality of interstate commerce, or of the mails or of any facility of any national securities exchange, (a) To employ any device, scheme, or artifice to defraud, (b) To make any untrue statement of a material fact or to omit to state a material fact necessary in order to make the statements made, in the light of the circumstances under which they were made, not misleading, or (c) To engage in any act, practice, or course of business which operates or would operate as a fraud or deceit upon any person, in connection with the purchase or sale of any security. [emphasis added]
OK, we are now at RED ALERT. RED ALERT! Let the red light strobe and the claxon wail.
November 28, 2007 – Cassano resists the idea of explaining his credit default swap portfolio to investors saying he doesn’t want to “confuse them”.
December 5, 2007 – Public conference call with AIG investors. Cassano, Bob Lewis and AIG chief executive Martin Sullivan astoundingly say that because the credit default swaps are so carefully underwritten they “believe the probability that it will sustain an economic loss is close to zero.”
Digression #4—Say what? Your auditors just told you that you don’t know how to value your own insurance contracts, Goldman Sachs and other trading partners are asking you to post more collateral – indicating that they disagree with how you have valued these contracts, the guy in charge of these products cannot come up with a way to explain them in layman’s terms, yet you have the chutzpah to tell your investors that your products are “carefully underwritten”? And probability of loss is zero? WTF? Where did you get that from?
AIG is trying to spin this as a “statement of optimism about future events”.
I call, well erm, bovine fertilizer! That your trading partners are making collateral calls in the millions and billions of dollars, is not a question of future occurrences. That your auditor told you that you haven’t got a clue about how to value your own insurance contracts is not a statement about future events. That your trading partners have taken huge write downs on the value of securities that you have insured, is not a statement about a future event. These are all things that have already happened. Wishing that a fairy will come by and waive her wand and undo these events, is not “a statement of optimism”; it’s fantasy or a lie and both are actionable under 10b-5.
February 11, 2008 – Price Waterhouse finally gets the AIG Board to admit to the material weaknesses in the valuations of the credit default swap portfolio.
February 28, 2008 – AIG’s 2007 year end SEC filing indicated that AIG had posted over $5 billion in collateral against over $11 billion in paper losses, yet inexplicably stated that that “management believes” it could raise the billions of dollars needed to meet “anticipated cash requirements”.
September 2008 – AIG, unable to raise the billions needed to meet its cash requirements, takes $180 billion in cash and loans from the government bailout.




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This financial scam is FAR from over. We haven’t seen anything yet. 2010 is gonna be rougher than 2009. Wait and see.
Great post, thanks.
Sounds like the AIG folks suffered from some irrational exuberance
So, like all the executives and directors of AIG are in prison now, right?
They at least got fired, right?
Surely someone can only get really crappy tee times at the club now?
I mean, get caught using a handgun to rob a QuickieMart and get 10 years in prison.
Run a criminal conspiracy that blows up the world economy and steals from the retirement accounts of teachers and what happens?
Raises & Bonuses w00T!1!
Excellent comment. I wonder about that too. You would at LEAST like to see some new regulations.
Here’s an idea. Tell all the people who were thrown in jail for stealing a small sum of money or for doing some drugs like pot that the way to REALLY make money is to get into financial services. And teach classes.
Or teach them how to hunt down the financial services crooks and put THEM in jail. “If you can bring in one multi-million dollar crook legally you will get 2 years off your sentence.”
Joe Cassano is a dick
You think that well of him? ;)
I don’t think people are taking too kindly to this, either.
I haven’t seen anyone going to court yet let alone jail for these robberies. Madoff only went because he turned himself in. The rest will all go free and even ask for more. Why not they’re already being rewarded for being crooks aren’t they?
Takes a good crew to cleanup a train wreck. Keep yer eyes open.
I dunno, maybe it sounds like AIG folks speak with forked tongue?
Yep, because it may well turn out that due to non existent bookkeeping on even shoddier contract assignment work, that NOBODY actually owns a whole bunch of mortgages and NOBODY has the legal right to foreclose on those mortgages and that a whole bunch of pension funds and municipal governments who invested billions in collateralized debt securities, have basically lost it all.
2010 could be the second dip in a a double dip recession
Yep, small crime = you do time
HUGE BREATHTAKINGLY BIG CRIME = you get a bonus
The crew in DeeCee is just digging a big ole trench alongside the train wreck & burying the whole mess.
One of the things that bugs me about the WaPo article is that it is essentially message testing the defense argument to see it is will fly with the general public. you know, whether it passes the “sniff test”.
So, let’s make sure that both the defense AND the prosecution knows that the American public is NOT AS STUPID AS THEY HOPED.
cspan3 had a panel on Saddam Hussein’s trial. Talk about weak arguments & spinning. If they can spin that one as fair, watch AIG get off scott free.
eCAHNomics I hate it when they bury perfectly good pillage.
Yeah. It would be a lot more fun to light it on fire & let us serfs dance around it with our pitchforks.
Great read Mz. Kouril . . thanks!
Yeah, action wise . . . is there a means by which we can EXPRESS our outrage at this message testing fabricated bunch of shit?
Also.
“[...]
The Times article points out that unusually large contrary bets placed by Goldman and others were not primarily defensive. According to industry experts interviewed, these bets put the firms’ interests clearly at odds with their clients’ interests. Goldman says that its clients knew that it might place contrary bets. But does that excuse placing them? What goals, other than lining it pockets, were served by the deals?
Disclosure doesn’t dispel another question: Did Goldman and other firms create securities that were bound to fail in order to up the odds that its contrary bets would pay off? Some of the securities were so prone to failure that they soured within months of being created.
To be thorough, investigations of these and other questions would have to reach into the Obama Treasury Department. One of the most aggressive creators of the questionable investments was a firm called Tricadia, whose parent firm was overseen by Lewis Sachs, now a senior adviser to Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/29/opinion/29tue2.html?_r=2&ref=todayspaper
Worth reading if you want to know more about these scams.
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2009/12/on-goldmans-and-now-morgan-stanleys-deceptive-synthetic-cdo-practices-aka-screwing-its-customers.html
and here i thought insurance scams were against the law ….
Ding ding ding.
In the 1950s and 60s, my late husband ran a foreign exchange business in Brazil. Gaps were wide and he had information that his customers didn’t. But he thought it was a bad business proposition to take positions that you benefit at the expense of your clients. So he was satisfied with the margin on the trade. He came back to the States in 1968 and I met him about a decade later when we were both working on Wall St., me at Goldman Sachs. Not making a profit at the expense of your client was still the prevailing ethic. How quaint all that seems now.
Not only do the Goldmans take advantage of their clients, but also as you point out they develop elaborate schemes whose only purpose is to screw the clients.
Wanna bet on that?
Gotta get some lawsuits going!
These people are truly unbelievable.
It’s like a big game of Deal or No Deal
Letters to the editor. Using the “spotlight” function at the top of the p ost to send the post to your local papaer, doing a diary of your own at Seminal or Kos,
The usual trumpet work
They are, which is why AIG and GS executives have lawyers message testing tehir defense strategies
(I’m imagining the subtext; hey, it’s a holiday, please cut me some slack here:)
“Yes, it’s the fookin’ little OTS piece of sh*t gummint workers who we think are dummber’n a whalebone, yeah, that OTS with its one — count ‘em, ONE — employee who actually oversees ‘insurance’. Which is what we sell, but after we discovered that buying a thrift would allow us to select the underfunded, understaffed, weenie little OTS the federal agency supposed to oversee us, we figured no one was going to be asking us questions. So WTF do these people think they’re doing, asking us questions?!
Nice work on the email TEXT.
Especially since judging from events they had a whole lotta SUBTEXT to try and cover up in them thar emails…
Oh, wait! It’s not snark?
On first reading, I thought it was snark.
Damn, they were supposed to price those thingamajiggers?!
Who knew?!!
Cassano’s shopping list for Nov 2007: URGENT!! More hats! And about 2,000,000 rabbits.
Also needed: magician cape, magic wand, authoritative tone, white gloves, darkened room, good lighting.
Update to shopping list: a few gallons of rum, a case of coke, and another kind of ‘coke’ to deaden all anxiety and fear. Denial has worked for Cassano and AIG in the past, so surely it’s a formula that will work again ‘on a going forward basis’.
Unless, of course, a certain elected official, someone with a big ego who likes to take jabs at Wall Street greed, shows in a WaPo OpEd Valentine that heKnows Too Much.
Some other things happened in that timeframe, along with the ‘outing’ (i.e., attempted political kneecapping) of a mercurial, ambitious, driven Eliot Spitzer.
March 12, 2008: Eliot Spitzer resigns as Guv of New York; the Bush administration almost certainly went after him for using New York state legal authority to go after mortgage fraud and increasing signs of problems with state pension plans and other large funds, all connected to the subprime mortgage fraud — on which CDOs created by AIG were certainly based.
But that very day, it seems that the Carlyle Group (yes, GHWB, former Sec of State James Baker of Baker Botts, etc, etc) a private equity ‘powerhouse’ had defaulted on $16.6 b-b-billion of debt and was publicly making noises about defaulting on its $21.7 b-b-billion in assets (the bulk of them said to be in AAA mortgage backed securities issued by Fannie and Freedie).
Strangely, the very next day
March 13, 2008: The Carlyle Group’s assets are seized. Oh, and BTW, that WaPo story noted the following little tidbit: “Carlyle Capital is incorporated on Guernsey, an island in the English Channel, and is traded on Amsterdam’s Euronext exchange.” (Translation: although ‘Carlyle Capital’ is not exactly and precisely completely identical to ‘Carlyle Group’, it’s a fair guess that the ‘investors’ view the US taxpayer as a ‘natural resource’ fit for fleecing; also note that a Guernsey based entity would not be paying US taxes. Hahahaahaha…)
But even stranger still, within days Bear Stearns collapsed:
March 16, 2008, Bear Stearns signed a merger agreement with JP Morgan Chase in a stock swap worth $2 a share or less than 10 percent of Bear Stearns’ market value just two days before.
And then:
Actually, I suspect someone must have recently replaced that ‘red alert’ button you posted at the top of the page; I’m sure it’s been worn out several times since the beginning of your timelines.
But aren’t timelines fabulous analytical tools?
Thanks for your tolerance in allowing me to list a few ‘add ons’; I’m sure the events that I’ve added are somehow linked to AIG, but quite how or why, I’m not at all clear.
Here’s hoping the FBI knows.
Okay, but what if none of the AIG guys were hiring high priced hookers?
Could they still be prosecuted?
Or not.
Because this whole:
well… some people might call that ‘lying’.
But people with fancy law degrees will probably say their AIG defendents were merely ‘employing erroneously nontrue theoretical commentary about the supposed, unpredictable nature of extremely complex derivatives, derived from mortgage data provided by subcontractors…’
That’s when we’ll see Cassano’s magic hat and a coupla rabbits hop right out, I’ll betcha.
Also, this week McClatchy has run some wonderful articles about Goldman Sachs, the Caymans, and other rather questionable convergences.
Here’s a link in case you missed this excellent reporting.
Yes i guess your on to it. might be best to plant potatoes than lettuce this year.
I don’t know if this will be of interest to you, but here goes.
(BTW, AIG BEGAN in China.)
Carlyle’s $4 Billion China Exit
Podcast on 08 December 2009, 13:31
by Red Herring Staff
The Carlyle Group’s 17 percent stake in China Pacific Insurance is poised to haul in a whopping $4 billion in returns from an expected initial public offering, according to a report.
Washington, DC-based Carlyle pumped about $800 million into China’s No 3 life insurance company from 2005 to 2007, according to the Reuters report.
The investment returns, morer than six times what Carlyle put down, would come if China Pacific prices its planned IPO at the high end of the offering range.
Among private equity firms, Carlyle’s IPO exit would mark the largest to date in China, according to the report, and provide the latest evidence as to why money managers have been scrambling into China.
The China Pacific initial public offering is expected to go out on Hong Kong exchanges before Christmas and would become the sixth largest in the world for the year
Blackstone, Goldman Sachs Back New Insurance Agency (Update1 …Jul 7, 2009 … [bn:WBTKR=BX:US] Blackstone Group LP [], Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and Credit Suisse Group AG are backing a new US firm marketing insurance …
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=as... – Similar
To avoid collapse, AIG taps Blackstone (The Deal Magazine)Sep 26, 2008 … AIG turned to Blackstone as it struggled to survive. … When insurance giant American International Group Inc. scrambled … the two companies goes back to Blackstone’s launch in 1985. … He declines to go into what those issues were, saying, “We can’t talk about a patient when it’s still on the …
http://www.thedeal.com/…/aig-links-arms-with-blackstone-in-its-efforts-to-avoid-collapse.php – Cached – Similar
NOTE: Blackstone is Pete Peterson’s equity firm. You guys all remember him,right?
@23
Goldman Sachs ? Healthcare Reform Bets, Hedges, and Analysis, Not …Jul 21, 2009 … Would Goldman short the Health Care stocks to zero if reform goes through? This is a good question and something to think about, …
stanford.wellsphere.com/…hedges-and-analysis…/750266 – Cached
So.
Goldman has said that they were ‘already hedged’ for their losses if AIG had not paid them with our money, that means they weren’t just hedged but short. The question then becomes, were the contracts at AIG made on deals that Goldman had set up and sold? Were they shorting their own deals with clients and we paid them off for it?
Moved: That we abolish the SEC, take all the money it’s getting and give it to Cynthia Kouril as an efficiency measure.
Can I get a second?
Seconded, long as Elizabeth Warren, ECAHN, and Yves are right there too.
Almost certainly.
“Fiendish knaves” is too kind by half, it would appear.
(Also, reread eCAHNomics @23 for a confirming opinion that your analysis is correct with respect to their motives and actions.)
I’ll “third” lexalexander @37, amending with transparait @38′s wise suggesions, but I’d also include Brooksley Bourne and Micheal Greenberger, and Robert Johnson and Dean Baker in the group of sane, perceptive economic thinkers ;-))
Perhaps if the MSM actually reported on this kind of criminal behavior. But, if they’re based in NYC they might feel awkward writing about their brother-in-law’s or uncle’s crimes.
Maybe the politicians would talk about it if they didn’t receive so much campaign money from them.
Maybe somebody would talk about them if they weren’t members of the same club.
Well, at least bloggers can talk about it and rake a little muck.
I’d like to see the entire economy rebound, but what you describe is somewhat possible and somewhat apocalyptic. I shall indeed keep watching the story develop.
It takes a pillage. Serf’s up!
CDSs weren’t/aren’t technically insurance because they paid good money to have them deregulated. That just means, of course, that whatever happened has to fall under criminal fraud laws instead of civil or corporate fraud laws. LOL
In a real democracy these people would not exist. In an autocracy they would not exist for long ~~~EDITED BY MODERATOR – DO NOT GO THERE, PLEASE~~~. they only exist and prosper here…
SO, can i buy naked shorts from GOldman on the solvency of the US Govenrment??
I believe that under Robert’s Rules of Order, your suggestion would be considered a Friendly Amendment, transparait, and I accept. I certainly didn’t mean to minimize the insights they offer.