ES!
Very smooth.
Happy Holiday.

Hey Newt!

Hey, I just read about a possible Apple tablet in this morning’s LA Times.

Here’s the link: http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-apple25-2009dec25,0,874789.story

Me too. I just saw the same piece.
I expect something (if it is real) unlike anything we have ever seen.
And if I am right about the slaved pointing surface we discussed last night…

Do you know John Couch?

The education guy at Apple? Only by name.

He was the first vice president for software at Apple. I told him he was crazy when he said he was going to go to work for this start up for 30% less than he was currently earning at Hewlette Packard.

Wow. Just watched both vids.

Methaney, just 4+ some years ago, still looks like a kid!

The instrument changes and onstage FX alone were a blur, but that’s one incredible all round performance by all players. That was outstanding.

As for Carter and Redmon, that’s top shelf.

The Methaney vid though . . . . that was a mind and ear worm grabber . . . . masterful shit.

Thanks ES, that was some good schoolin there . . .

Almost all of us missed that boat.
I have been told that, especially in the olden days, that Steve was particularly charismatic. And while he had to leave it and come back to save the joint, he has made liars and fools of us too many times.

I met Chris Espinosa and Guy Kawasaki in about 1994, and they told me this:
“If Apple dies, and you didn’t have one, you missed out.”

Apple was in very serious trouble then, and it would get much worse.

Good evening. I assume you cooked up a friggin storm today.

Nice Pat Metheny Group music for late night blogging ES is is the weather in AR? Neighbor came over with a bottle of Shiraz from her and her husband. Very sweet all I did was leave a card at the door. Nice day.
How’s the rest of you tonight?

Not that big, but it was fun! Still fighting hard nappy urges . . .*G*

Hey BB
Wine-free today,I am afraid.
Still have my whine on, though.

I hear that wrt the nappy urges.

I found this amusing…

ES!

I’m saving for an occassion. If I can’t whine then I must be asleep. Although had a very cool chat on the pier with a Spanish Basque guy and his girl he is also a rower. And a juggler. She is a 22 old sweetie traveling the worrld with him now back where she grew up and loves the native plants and birds. We had a marvelous conversation without any whine. Basqueing in the sun on the bay not a bad day. Got a nice hug from her that was very pleasant.

You had a good day!

I had an epic conversation with John. He took me out for lunch to a hamburger place on Alpine Lane called Rosatti’s or something like that. The conversation that followed was amazing in retrospect. It went something like this:

Him: I’ve finally found it.
Me: Found what?
Him: A really convienient user interface.
Me: What is it.
Him: It’s the SmallTalk system at Xerox Parc.
Me: That requires a $250,000 (Dorado) machine to run it.
Him: I think we can do better than that. Anyway, we took Steve over there and he was blown away and says we’ll start working on something like that.

Ultimately, he wound up in charge of the Lisa project and assembled much of the team that did the software for the Mac.

Later, he and Steve had a bit of a falling out that has since been resolved.

Thank for the affirmation. How you doin tonight? You are a pretty perky person if I can say so without being judgemental. The white Pelicans with yellow beaks are especially attractive as they feed in small or large groups. One guy I met was Nam Intel “Looking for the Bad guys”. Was a Veternarian returning from a previous stay decade or so ago. He was reading a book on the history of salt with mucho gusto. Said we are now as expensive as SO Cal real estate wise. Even the waitress who was pissed at me for not paying taxes on day ols sttuf…the young one with two jobs a kid and going to school…yeah the one with the tatoos up and down her arms like vines. Was pleasant to me. I think I will stay in bed tomorow not to push my luck. G

Epic is right!

I had no idea what significance that conversation would ultimately have.

Before he joined Apple, we had lots of conversations over beer about what constitutes a good human interface. I recall insisting that the best interface is the one that needs the fewest pages of manual.

did you work at PARC WW?

Never did, but always admired their excellent work on ethernet, the mouse, windows-based interfaces, object-oriented languages and programming, and some very cool operating systems. But almost none of it made it to market.

Yeah I should be perky, I slept after dinner. Bad habit. I’m always impressed by how much you do every day, how many people you meet. Your life is so rich.
Those tattoos are really expensive. One son wanted one but he was astounded by the price. He’s one who lives with no phone, no tv, no car. Very simply, but reads a lot.

Really easy listening ES thank you for putting that up. I got to wear my Nepal knitted cap today felt good after 9am hot yoga. Snoozed in the sun parked by the bay. The scull cap has ear flaps and three braids one on top and each side. pretty outrageous. Sunning after yoga in the car is highly recommended. Still have the week end too.

You weren’t wrong.
I took a class in 84 at Cañada. An HP programmer/analyst (as they were called then) named Wayne Fuelling told us about Lisa.
We were messing with Nassi-Shneiderman charts back then.

Wonderful too have a mind of your own. Leads to amazing things.

True! the tonner heads in Rochester charged to fucking much both h/w OS and apps. but it sure was a fun environment back then… ever know John Shock??

Rizotti’s Beer Gardens in Woodside?

When I had that conversatipon with John, I already knew about the Dorado? system at Parc, but it required a $250,000 desktop to run it, custom built with gallium-arsenide circuitry.

John, together with a guy named Barrett, had written one of the best applied compiler texts available. He understood hardware/software tradeoffs and Moore’s law. He was (properly) confident that the need for such exotic hardware would quickly disappear (as it did).

No.

That’s the one. Do people still ride their horses there?

Alpine Rd Portola Valley

Don’t know, left Bay Area/San Mateo in ’88.

Used to work and frequent Chuck’s Steak House in San Mateo in the 70′s, the bar manager Nick used to run an annual 7K fundraiser from Woodside Peanut Farm to Rizotti’s. Nuts To Zots! I’d heard they tore down Woodside Peanut Farm long ago, Chucks was brought down in early 80′s I think it was.

Man THAT was a 3 day affair closing that place out . . . . had a two decade history of serving and employing Stanford students and more . . . VERY popular place in its time . . . lotta whacked out great insane memories around that place and the folks I met working there and coming in there. VERY free wheeling atmosphere.

We used to eat hash and work a shift in the open kitchen. Smoke joints on the loading dock during work. Beers for employees ON DUTY were .25 cents, mixed drinks .50 cents. If you messed up, you couldn’t drink while working for a week . . . . insane. *G*

Somehow it all got done, very few screwup’s, and everyone made a lot of money.

I am sitting in bed with a HP Pavillion which is a beautiful peice of electronic equipment. it has W 7 OPS and loaded with MS student home word software. The keyboard is very nice touch andI am sure I do not do it justice. I like HP. Have a 1300 Laser that has been good to me. 1981 I rented a room to a couple of software creators. They had no furniture just sat on the carpet totally immersed. Had no clue…musy give a hat tip to all who made internet, email, websites and all possible. Read Odysey, from Pepsi to Apple with relish…like the work environment of up instead of top to bottom management.

Ah, PV, yeah . . . Woodside was the Peanut Farm, Hitchrack?, and The Stagecoach. All a blur, long ago in the 70′s . . . . all I remember is 92 past CSM from San Mateo to Canada Rd turn left towards it all . . . *G*

yup! my friend George lived down the street from the peanut farm till Nov last year he was there 30+ years…… he staggered home many a nights… those were the days….

evening, all — hope everyone had a wonderful Christmas

The Revolution Will Not Be Televised

And to you, it was a Happy Hanukkah we hope.

hey

The conversation I mention was in the 80-mid82 timeframe, and that’s the last time I was out on Alpine Road.

I had another minorly epic conversation around that time.

I had read about a Stanford graduate student, Andy Bechtolsheim, who for his thesis, had designed three boards to plug into a VME bus/chassis: an ethernet card, a virtual-memory card, and a processor card. I read that he was licensing his design to various PC board makers.

So, I called him to ask how that was working out since I wanted to equip a lab with terminals and thought these might be more cool. He said he wasn’t pleased and asked me to call back in a month or so.

I did so, and he said that he still wasn’t pleased and asked me to call back in another month, Which I did. The answer when I called was “Sun Microsystems, Vinod Khosla speaking.”

Of course, that meant nothing to me at the time, and I asked for Andy, who wasn’t available, so I made arrangements to visit their facilities the next time I’d be in the area, which was about a month later. Wow!

Thanks! Yep, another year of watching one little vial of oil burn miraculously for eight days and nights. Holy Maccabees, Batman

now being bought by Oracle.. another monster in the IT market… good ole Larry..

Without Wiki, I am at a serious disadvantage.
But I was a shabbos goi once for my girlfriends family, back in the 70′s.

Stay warm all Good night from Baywood Park.Cheery dreams.

Yessir?

I really liked Sun a lot. They were a couple of years ahead of Apple and could have grabbed the window-based desktop market, but they took the attitude that we’ll leave it to the developers to develop the applications. And they always felt that their market consisted of knowledgeable Unix users. John Couch and I had long discussed why that was a stupid attitude, even before he joined Apple as their first VP for software.

Sun never got it wrt the desktop market. But in the very early 80s it was theirs to lose.

nuthin. just hey.

Dear Doctor

Wiki works as well as anything. I use it as much as da google.

Each year, we surf a tsunami of pre-historic winter solstice merchandising and religious observance. I consider it a Chanukah miracle if we safely ride the wave all the way to the tideline.

Incredible conversations from you Bay Area Geeks . . . thanks for sharing all that. Very heady times for you folks back then! Great to hear the stories . . . and now, zzzzzzzzzzz.

Best to all . . . the days grow longer, perhaps so will our hopes . . .

Tomorrow is high (or low) tide.

nite larue

Had to reply.

Jigsaw Puzzle.
Parachute Woman.

Dear Docter, one of their unheralded greats, and a camp jam tune at times by those in the know.

Sweet! *G*

And now, to the z.

nite pups.

A couple of rough and tumble Jane-oriented threads going on over at Dkos:

http://dailykos.com/story/2009/12/25/808924/-Clapping-Harder-will-not-make-Jane-Hamsher-right.-No-matter-who-says.

http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/12/25/819162/-Cenk-Uygur:-Jane-Hamsher-

nite nahant

nite you guys

night,nahant … night larue

All of this back and forth with DK over Jane’s tectonic game changer reminds me of Philip K. Dick’s quote:

“Maybe each human being lives in a unique world, a private world different from those inhabited and experienced by all other humans. . . . If reality differs from person to person, can we speak of reality singular, or shouldn’t we really be talking about plural realities? And if there are plural realities, are some more true (more real) than others? What about the world of a schizophrenic? Maybe it’s as real as our world. Maybe we cannot say that we are in touch with reality and he is not, but should instead say, His reality is so different from ours that he can’t explain his to us, and we can’t explain ours to him. The problem, then, is that if subjective worlds are experienced too differently, there occurs a breakdown in communication … and there is the real illness.”

Excellent. Thanks.

Morning pups!

Good morning Sunny. Going shopping?

Good morning, pups. Everybody else has Boxing Day off, and we’re left with the coal at the toe of our Christmas stocking — The Pasty Little Putz. In “The Obama Way” he opines that President Obama baffles observers because he’s an ideologue and a pragmatist all at once, and he prefers cutting deals to walking away from the negotiating table.

Here he is.

The coffee, tea and hot chocolate are ready, and I’ve got banana pancakes this morning. I’ve got what feels like about 800 loads of laundry to do, so I’m to get started on that. Have a great day.

Redman’s name is Redman, not Redmond.

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