Featuring It Must Be Santa video from Bob Dylan and a holiday poem from Brendan Benson, Cory Chisel, and their touring families.
What’s on your mind tonight?
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| By: Eureka Springs Wednesday December 23, 2009 10:00 pm | |



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Late Late!!!
Hey, ES!!
FWD! Are you dining at Wild Ginger this holiday season?
If so, I am very jealous.
Aloha, ES and Funny…! ;-)
Evening CT…)
MELE KALIKI MAKA AND A MAKA HIKI HO!
TRANSLATION: “MERRY CHRISTMAS, and a HAPPY NEW YEAR!”, EVERYBODY!
ES! CT! Funny!
I’m game…! ;-)
Nope. The Ginger really isn’t my fave, but I’m glad we have a place in common. You’ll have to look me up the next time you get out this way.
FWDiva
NDFG!!!
FWDiva
*sheesh* No need to yell…! ;-)
And ya need to work on your Happy New Year…!
ndfg…) just checked.. we may get our first big snow tomorrow.
I’m stocked up with food and firewood… bring it on.
OK then, put up yer dukes, Daisy!
FWDiva
Hey, Gorgeous…! How’s your eye doing…? *g*
Well I heard they moved… sometimes that is not a good thing.
I would much rather dine with you at your favorite spot. And it could happen sooner than you think, I have family in your neck of the woods.
i had to run to the nearest drugstore an hour ago (pick up a called-in Rx for antibiotic for brochitis) which was annoying because it was supposed to be with the refills i picked up in minneapolis this afternoon. Did i check the bag? no. so doc had to call in Rx to nearest pharm to my mom’s in western wisconsin. Already too much snow on the road. And in 10 miles to the drug store, barely able to see the road, and lots of frikkin idjits in the ditch already.
ES!
What a week!
Wha-… it’s only Wednesday?
HO HO HO fUNY TS CT FARMGIRL GOKEMIDOROF KOOL VIDS hAPPY BOPIN AN BOGIEING
AND MELE KALIKI MAKA AND A MAKA HIKI HO! TOO
Oh man.. Glad you were able to get your meds. If folks in Wisconsin are in the ditch it must be bad. (or visitors from down south)
Hey there, I know… Between a house full of company and blogoverse gone wild… I can’t keep up! But having a lot of fun trying…)
Well, it was good for their business, if the move is true…they’re now just across the street from Benaroya Hall! Packed every weekend evening.
Well, now I know ya got fambly out here, you’re on the hook for some type of dining out!
FWDiva
Merry Christmas Eureka & all my dear friends at the Lake !!!
I have a Large Pitcher of Chocolate Martini and a Large Bowl of Rum- laced Eggnog … and of course some Bud Light Lime, to ward off the Trolls … *g*
Holy crap! Glad you’re OK now, and have the right meds.
FWDiva
Ooh, Eggnog…! Don’t mind if I do…! ;-)
:: driving by :: that Dylan vid is fantastic! Thanks ES!
Happy Holidaze everyone :-)
*poof*
Have an extra splash of Rum, CT … it’s really, really good !
Aloha, LL…! *g*
nah, it was probably idiot suburbanites in the ditch. “I”ve got 4-wheel drive!” Stupid forkers. 4-wheel drive is NOT a substitute for common sense *grumbles and harumphs*
Hi bb, Spill some eggnog on your keyboard? *s*
Holy smokes, that was fun.
Evening Petrocelli… Martini for me.
Haapy happy, LL… He did a whole x-mas album this year.
{{{ Petro! }}}
{{{ LL & kitteh! }}}
{{{ NDFG }}}
I see it all the time … some fool with 4WD goes too fast, hits ice or loose snow and flies off the road.
Then they complain that the Car caused the crash … Cops never get tired of than one …
Green Apple Martini coming your way …
That black ice is particularly brutal…!
You sound like me, and I’m a Cali-girl!
4-wd don’t do jack SHIT for stopping power. The coefficient of static friction is the same for everybody (IOW, a skid is a skid is a skid, no matter what you’re driving).
‘Course, I’m probably one of those drivers the REAL bad-weather drivers like to mock for slowing way down over what they consider to be nothing. But I came through Seattle Snow-Gate of ’08-’09 without any dents, ditchings or strandings. And I only had to dig myself out of trouble once…with my dustpan!
FWDiva
Slow and steady. NO SUDDEN MOVES!
between eye, allergies, work being still crazy-busy (unusual but welcome at this time of year!) and trying to get house move-in ready, i haven’t had much time to hang out online. Sounds like i missed a wild day or two! Skimmed thru the 800+ comment thread … *starts spraying Troll-B-Gon*
hey pups.
Apologies to those I failed to answer last night – abruptly lost my connection.
Hmmm. Maybe we need to put Troll-B-Gon in emergency shower tanks, next to the brain bleach…
FWDiva
Hey, welcome back. Hope your toobz are fixed now.
FWDiva
You two get busy and make us something to eat!
Mangiamo!
no, the real bad weather drivers drive as you suggest. Slow. Avoid coming to a stop.
My mantra is “Half of (or less!) the posted speed.” And a light touch on the steering wheel helps. The only difference between my old four-wheel drive trucks and my new little 4 cylinder-great-milage little car is weight. If you have weight you can go faster because you’ve got more traction. But you can get in trouble a lot faster too! *g*
Lying in bed after a killer hot yoga hour and a half. I will try to clean uo my keyboard act, videos are good fun. Stepmother forgot she was on my non profit board. Oh well Merry Merry and a happy bah humbug to the rest of you.
Yer slurpin likker outta bowls now?
Wow, way to go primal, hoss!
*G*
Well stoked, is well spoked.
All that and a garland of garlic for the trolls . . *G*
A dustpan?
Oh man, that’s happened to me several times. So glad you’re back home and safe.
Evening Sunny.
Rockin’ Hasidic Zydeco Santa Bob!
Hey y’all.
Isn’t that your job…? *g*
Oh, and front-wheel drive really rocks! Who knew a Ford Taurus would be so snow-worthy!
Yeah, like I say, no sudden moves when it’s slick. Unfortunately, few people here seem to understand the trying not to stop thing. “Tough luck if you’re on a side-street with a stop sign at the top of a hill, get outta my way!” Feh. Faugh, even.
yeah, M(ass) is good, but it’s the V(elocity)-SQUARED that really gets ya in the end!
FWDiva
Merry merry to you big brother, nice to see you.
Back when I had small cars with front wheel drive I had no trouble driving in snow. My rear wheel drive pickup sucks, even when I make the fatter family members ride on the tailgate. “g”
I’ll have what he’s having…
Now that made me laugh
Slow and steady. NO SUDDEN MOVES! Romantic advice
Bob the Dylan or Bob the bird?
I might could be persuaded . . . *G*
Want fries with that?
I failed, I opened up my mouff at RP. After checking it out due to what you said. And claiming I was kewl with it all.
Sigh, gonna regret that tomorrow, likely . . . sigh.
Great video. I’m glad Bob is still having fun.
IN THE SNOW?!?!? *GASPS*
hey eureka. What’s up for christmas eve? You presiding or suz?
Either one.
Yep! it’s shovel-shaped. handle’s not very long, but it sure worked…just enough to get the drive-wheels grabbing again.
I put the broom and dustpan in the car because I’m a big believer in clearing any accumulated snow off of the car so it doesn’t slip, slide or fall off and generally cause me or anyone else trouble at driving speeds.
FWDiva
I live so far out in the mountains with springs flowing over the dirt roads… When they freeze up, there is no sense trying to get out. Makes things real simple.
“Ya got to know how to negotiate the curves.”
Well, I was talking about driving on frozen shit, but whatever floats yer boat, bb!
FWDiva
Hi Sunny, Suz is up on Thursday night. “Tis why I had to squeeze in my favorite (only) xmas song of the year tonight…)
I haven’t popped into the Beach Haus since I was chastised for listening to the ‘shrill’ voices here at the ‘puddle’…! I might pop in tomorrow…! 8-(
I shall desist…mighty tempting though…too much fun
I like the convenience of civilization, it’s just the people that get on my nerves. Hope you’re well provisioned.
Oh yes, I’m a professional..) Best of both worlds in ES. (Except during ice storms *grumble*)
awwww, c’mon, we could use some levity around here. you know you want to!
FWDiva
G
Also useful for Tantric Sex … *g*
I kinda went shrill on the shrill tonite . . . edited mercilessly, but still . . . and sadly, all that came down on Cassie’s thread . . . sigh.
Really? Relaxed and chastised seem like mutually exclusive concepts.
Tantric is great. Hope to try it with another person some day.
teeth brushed, eye drops dropped, time for bed (really sleep-deprived at the moment). So nice to have a vacation
daynight and be able to hang out on the threads!MWAH! lurv you Pups. G’night!
G’nite, happy holidaze ndfg!
Sunny, I sure hope no one worries about not answering, because I fail to answer all the time, I fail to see every comment although I am looking for them. Sometimes I think “oh I’ve made 2 comments in a row, I’d better shut up now!” or get distracted and come back later…
How’s the car?
Gotta love those Brits…
Iraq inquiry reveals chaos that led Britain to war…
They can be brutally honest…!
LOL … saves a lot of time, bypassing foreplay !
Dang Petro! Feeling a little FRISKY after a few slurps from the bowl?
*G*
It’s GOOD to shed inhibitions in social scenes!
Love & Hugs, NDFG !
May 2010 bring you an abundance of Joy & Peace !
Night, ndfg very merry merriness!
Mwah back!
FWDiva
Night and happy yule!
LOL .. . Larue !
Oh and how…the more the Merrier…keep it up…OMG this going in a direction for which the brakes ain’t gonna work. How funny it must be those Bikram girls at hot yoga tonight. Have Mercy!
How do you get yer innertubez up there?
I really wish I had an alternative to cable but I’m too far from a substation for DSL and satellite seems cost prohibitive.
Aloha, Sweetie…! *g*
nite ndfg.
Where were you earlier today, Petro? We could have used a wrangler like yourself on troll control.
If only they had stayed out, held back . . . forced USA to go it alone . . . so to speak. Sigh.
Great catch, thanks CT . . .
you mean those hot girls at Bikram yoga…?
FWDiva
*G*
Somehow, I gather you ain’t all that inhibited, socially, anyways . . .
Mothers hide yer daughters!
Wifi usb card (into router at home.. directly into computer when on the road). Faster than Satellite..but not super fast.
No kidding, mon!
FWDiva
And so this is Christmas … Happy holidays, everyone
Happy holidays PPDCUS.
I’ve had my share of fun, BBQ-ing trolls in the past, now I just s-c-r-o-l-l, like my buddy newt sez [most of the time].
I should add the router dramatically reduces speed, but out here the card has to be connected to an outdoor antenna. So a router is my only option at home unless I want to be in the smallest dark back bedroom all the time.
I’m a big believer in monogamy, and there’s much more to enjoy in a woman’s company, than just physical pleasure …
There is a group advocating for free wireless broadband here, we’re only an alleged supercomputing mecca, after all. Don’t think they’ve made much headway. Local governments like enabling monopolies.
Back atcha!
FWDiva
Happy holidays, PPDCUS, i love that song.
Encroyable…hands and feet on the floor backwards…amazing flexability, grace skin tone and overall strngth just blows me away…Isignrd up for three months today.
That was quite an 800 pound gorilla of a thread the other night, wasn’t it
This has not been a scroll kind of week. More like All-Hands-On-Deck, but with humor and awe.
And guess what – once again, that trouble-maker Hamsher woman moves the debate.
Congrats for persevering !
1 year from now, you will feel like a totally new person.
Wow, ES if yer still in da house, that Zimmerman was great!
Pure insane and filled with so much loaded hidden meanings it could have been a Woody Allen or Mel Brooks production!
Loved it!
The poem thang? I would have liked to see them do that, with Shakespearean Costumes and accents!
Would cost more, sure . . . . but . . .
And well, hope you tuck in, stay warm with the wood, party till the ice thaws, and have GOOD times as we move from Solstice to a Pagan Christian Ritual and beyond!!!
Sounds like you have a GOOD handle on it all!! *G*
It’s my favorite Christmas song
I prefer to ignore trolls. Many don’t however, so lots of scrolling to get past the original comments and the replies. Very tiresome.
Jane’s recent endeavors have really brought them out of the woodwork. Lots are not content to lob insults from places like DKos and are coming over to do it in person. Totally worth it though. Go Jane!
Happy happy, PPDCUS
Yeah, who does she think she is, advocating for everyone’s well being … even those
who fling poo …
Yeah! I’d go away for a few minutes and it had gotten 300 more comments, seemed like.
I was in a work sitch once, where the techie installed the wrong router for the inter office links, given what was coming in from the outside.
I forget what the tech terms were . . . . but it was a rate of transmission issue. Or conversion.
Any chance you got sold the wrong router, for the bandwidth coming in?
(I am not a techie)
Shakespeare is good. I also like Shakes the Clown.
LOL. I don’t blame ya.
I’z disappointed I’m clearly not your type, though…*winky*
FWDiva
And we had another today!!!
Exhausting.
FWDiva
The cover-charge this evening for Canukistanis of ‘peculiar faith traditions’ who also possess the blessings of health care and are fluent in tantric sex…
is that you and yours have a very nice few days in the immediate future.
Promise?
I think every home which has plumbing and electricity should have fiber-optic internet.. at a flat reasonable cost.
Here’s mine, sung by Joan Baez
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYkPD6fG5Tw
Today’s Post… “Jane Hamsher, Grover Norquist Call for Rahm Emanuel’s Resignation” and the companion piece… Why I Reached Out to Grover Norquist on Fannie/Freddie… have accumulated over 1400 comments…! ;-)
Thought you would LOVE that Zimmerman vid..)
Ah, a married man! Sorry, I either forgot or didn’t know.
Me too, and yeah, on the monogamy.
25 years this June. And counting!
No Tiger Hunting!
*G*
Still, the FRISKY is the twinkle in our eyes, then, no? *G*
I applaud frisky, and egg nog slurping! For us monogamists!!!
And for the heathen single population too, as long as they find their OWN frisky friends. ;-)
Oh boy, I have no idea. I wonder what a “normal” amount of loss would be? I’ve been told some loss is to be expected.
Everything in this country has to be for profit. Not a fair profit, mind you… as much as the seller can possibly extort from the populace. Health care? Treated as a luxury. Internet access? Well at least it’s cheaper than health care.
The Rahm blog was totally priceless…Kobe’s revenge.
You can bet on it and thanks buddy !
Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays dear friends !
Admit it – brought a tear to your eye (or perhaps mild indigestion), right?
“Fresh trolls roasting, on an open fire,
Jack Daniels nippin, at your nose.
Pool side pond scum, in the mire.
And folks dressed up like shllin ho’s.”
Ok, I can’t go on . . . you folks finish it . . . *G*
Grover really gets some people riled up. Who knew a Sesame Street character would be so provocative?
i dare not go where angels tread
Like a blog exodus …. I guess we can now look forward to forty years in the wilderness, eh.
It’s shocking to see the self- defeatists hammering away at those who are fighting for them.
Happy holidaze to you, Petro!
More like a Markos Boatlift.
A surprising amount of blind Obama love still out there. I guess I lead a sheltered life.
I got the urge to reach across teh toobz and give you a tight, hetero hug ! *g*
Happy holidays, Petro and everyone!
Remember… We’re the ‘sheeple’…! *baa* ;-)
ROFL !!!
Someone should put that on every troll- infested thread.
LOL!
OK, but I Do Not catch.
You too, Margot!
Yeah, no reason not to, other than ‘business reasons’.
Universal dial tone, for broadband, in every home.
Was done once, no reason not to be done again, other than monopoly’s and greed and profiteering.
REGULATION! BRING BACK REGULATION!
Arrrgh.
Try it, you’ll like it. “g”
I really thought the ACLU analogy was perfect. They stand up for liberties no matter whom it involves. I’ve always respected that.
*mwaah* … Hugs, Margot !
Me too. My mom had an old friend who’d gone batshit insane in a religious way. She remarked to my mom one day, “You know the ACLU wants to outlaw Christianity in America, don’t you?”
I’d love to see greater coordination amongst liberal blogs … taking apart all the facets of misinformation hurled this way.
We’re getting there and we’re getting heard.
DID! What a chameleon he’s been in his time with us . . . *G*
He’s changed more than Madonna has changed her underwear, when she wears it inside, that is.
*G*
Mr. Zimmerman has always had things to share with us.
One of a hand full of all time . . . has shaped decades of social, civil, and musical accords in his own right.
A bard for all time.
Hi ES and everyone. Some real fun today, trollwise?
Agreed. That ACLU comparison was perfect.
Fuck, Michele Bachmann and Chris Smith probably say that 3 times a week on the House floor.
I do like the tireless work of the SPLC too…! ;-)
There was something about my former work sitch . . . a router that was only 10/100 or something, that should have been 100/100 or something . . . . wish I was more savvy, can any techie Pup address what I MIGHT be thinking of to help ES out, if it’s possible he’s got a wrong router?
As always, thanks in advance . . .
Amen, a good dog got his day . . . hard!
A morning delight it was for sure…the collaboration is classic political strategem gem. Jane is smoking and a lot of good writers joining the disident voice. Pretty nice day over at the Fed they must freakin shredding and deleting; Enron II as the scandal grows. A new policy is born as the mighty Rahm is wounded…stay tuned.
In fact, I like most anyone who pisses off the right wing.
I think Jane’s looking for common ground with folks on the right is brilliant for a number of reasons, not least of which is that it makes it much harder for the powers that be to dismiss it as coming from the “radical left.”
Wigwam !
A Canuck bought the Silverdome for approx. 9 cents on the Dollar.
Our goal is to buy up America at fire sale prices, then give y’all Health Care and strong public education … and of course, Poutine !
I bow to yer wow . . . *G*
I didn’t understand his setup. Normally I think of WiFi as an in-the-house connection between say a laptop and a router. But then the router has to get connected to the internet somehow. It’s that last part that I somehow missed.
Every flock has a lead sheep…can we have a Dean…someone with backbone
Hey Petro. I’m all for it.
Heh, True dat…! ;-)
Do you recall that in the ’04 election the RNC distributed pamphlets to South Carolina churches saying that if elected John Kerry intended to outlaw reading the Bible? Preposterous but there were lots of people who believed it.
Jane is a firedoglake breathing force of nature right out of Plato:
“When modes of music change, the fundamental laws of the state always change with them.” from The Republic
Hurry up, will ya…
Negate the obvious, attack the weak.
-Laure
I have seen these. Essentially the modem is a cell phone and the wireless distribution point in one.
It would be rather nice, eh…? ;-)
Hi wigwam, been missing you as of late. Happy happy, amigo.
Btw, y’all PW did a quick little diary at kos with the ACLU analogy tonight.
Worth a Rec if you have a minute, imo.
With poutine, we’ll all die before we get to the ER, much less to healthcare!
MORE GRAVY!
Yes. I wasn’t kidding, either. I watch way too much C-Span. These people are, as they say on the teevee, Honey-Crusted NutBars.
Whoosh! Over my head.
Over the years, I’ve read many outstanding posts on DK – meteor blades, mcjoan, georgia10 — great stuff. I wonder what happened?
How about the Catholic Church stating that supporters of pro- choice will be denied communion … not a peep from Congress or the MSM about the separation of Church & State and no reprimand.
When its done with a cellphone that way it’s called tethering. I didn’t understand that was what he was saying.
There are also little devices about the size of a third of a deck of cards that act as a WiFi-to-3G gateway/router, with 3G being broadband digital. Both AT&T and Verizon have them. They sold for about $50 and $65/month last time I looked.
I was wondering if I could get one of those and an iPod Touch and use it as a cell phone.
If I still read over there, I’m sure I would find a huge store of great material. But the voices that get the grease, as they say…
I have met and talked with McJoan – she is, in the best word I can summon, impressive. But I don’t know if her voice is drowned out or silenced, or if something has changed, because, as I said, I don’t read over there any more.
Hmm, interesting . .
As I know it, WIFI is dependent on Radio Frequency (hence folks can drive by and pick it up on a scanner of sorts, and pilfer it) to transmit and receive. I could EASILY be wrong about this . . .
Now, he MIGHT be getting RF from another source far away, line of sight. FM? Likely?
In which, case, a router would be . . . where? Because a router takes a signal, converts it, and passes if forward to the computer/laptop.
But if he has a router in his HOUSE, then, he’s getting a signal some other way . . . and the router is changing that signal baud rate into a baud rate his computer can understand . . .
Hell, I don’t know, I’m spouting . . . ES, how DO you get what ever signal you get? And where IS your router in the chain of communication of the signal?
This could be fun to mess with, I could certainly stand to learn a lot here . . .*G*
Can ya throw in some clafoutis, too, or don’t ya have that in French Canuckistan?
FWDiva
Yeah, I tether now.
But this is different – like this EVDO.
*whew* positively dripping with vitriol…! 8-(
My usb card is connected to the router – which wifi’s my house… but it (the card) also has a small wire from the outdoor antenna connected to it. Without connection of usb card to outdoor antenna I get no signal at all. I am five miles as the crow flies from the nearest tower.
Anyway, when i take my laptop into that room (where antenna wire enters house)… remove card from router and plug card directly into my usb port – still connected to outdoor antenna, i get much faster speeds. I guess my question after reading larue tonight is if my loss ratio is within normal parameters and or how i should measure it? (regular speed tests online?)
But I have hit the wall. Hope to discuss this sometime when i am a bit more alert.
Good night fabulous firedogs.
Edit”: it’s a Verizon system.. about 65 a month flat rate for now.. thank goddess.
I have been reading a very interesting book called The Law of Nines by Terry Goodkind.
I just can’t take the nutbars all day.
Damn! She got quite a thread going their. Multiple victims of the Hamsher derangement syndrome.
We’ve got it all … make yer list and send it up to us. *g*
To be sure to have a policy driver for health care, climate change, regulate big brother and reinvent a sustainable economy would be a two term winner.
Uh, I’d have to backtrack to three comments . . ok, we let it go . . . lol
WAIT!
Uh, a tactic. Negate the obvious = bust the hold of the PTB to dismiss the message as coming from the left. Negate their message, in which they negate the left’s message.
Then, attack the PTB where they are weak. They are weak if left and right combine to attack the PTB on their false messaging.
Sigh, a com studies guy, I went deep . . . my bad . . . ;-)
FAIL! lol
But that would negate Apple’s contractual obligation to force you into the wunnerful world of… ATT.
Screw that, I’m staying with my clunky Verizon Treo.
BTW, if anyone meets Elmore and the family, please give extra hugs for me.
Yowza, I last checked there was about 5 comments. Oh well, her post was good.
nite es
Wow, reading the comment thread was painful. I haven’t spent much time at DKos. Is that level of discourse the norm? Kudos to PW, PJEvans, Teddy (and anyone I might have missed) for taking the battle to the simpletons.
Heading out. Peace and joyous holidays to all.
Trying not to sound too geeky, this whole thing reminds me of the argument scene in LOTR — for god’s sakes — just get that damn ring of power into that volcano asap. A little fellowship in the face of Murdoch goes a long way.
This is the device I was mentioning. It the same as the Novatel 720 that you have except that it talks to the local computer via WiFi rather than USB. Also, it can attach up to five local machines to the Internet at a time.
Aloha, ES and RF…!
I’m eyeing the new Android-based phones (aka google phones). Unfortunately, even though they will act as a tether for my notebook, the carriers don’t allow them to (from what I’ve read).
I am waiting for the second round of Androds before considering a buy. But first and foremost, network. Then, Mac-compatibility.
I’m a Mac consultant for crying out loud. My clients are struck that I will not adopt the iPhone.
Fascinating, and WAY beyond any router configs I use to experience by light years.
My only remaining question to any awake Pups about this, what is his antennae receiving?
RF? UHF? Digital? From where?
His drop in signal or baud rate seems to be from this card . . . and when he plugs direct to card to router, his speed improves, so the router is not the issue?
The issue is the card . . . . it drops signal or baud rate with proximity . . . is the CARD the wifi, or is the router?
That’s another question this rookie has . . .
Fun to learn . . . .
If yer up, what’s that?
Night All ran into the same wall ES did
nite ratfood
nite bb
…. and to all, a good night … ho ho ho
‘K, gone too, great couple of days here at The Lake, Pups . . . fun!
ZZZZZZZZ.
Just one more reminder from Plato:
nite PPDCUS
nite larue
nite you guys
Nearly everyone I know has an iPhone. Part of my interest is that I like to be a bit different. Part is that I like Google’s approach to information technology.
I saw that Deepak Chopra and a few other intellectuals were on Larry King last night, discussing reincarnation, and I thought, these guys need to get laid more often ! *g*
Great big Holiday Hugs to all of you !