I’ll be on Ed Shultz tonight at 6pm ET on MSNBC talking about the Hadassah Lieberman petition — jh
Quite a bit of traction today in support of getting Susan G. Komen Foundation to stop giving money raised to cure cancer to Hadassah Lieberman. Lieberman’s career working for pharmaceutical companies and lobbying shops is at odds with what the Republican-heavy Komen “race for the cure” events purport to further.
John McCain understandably doesn’t want money pass-throughs to Senators via their wives questioned, and tweets “Joe Lieberman – standing up for his principles on health care is being viciously attacked by the liberal left…what a disgrace!” Which principle is he referring to — Lieberman’s opposition to Medicare subsidies, or the speech he made supporting them three months ago?
From the NRO: “McCain adds that he’s uncomfortable with how many of the attacks on Lieberman are personal in nature. (For example, some bloggers have called for Hadassah, Lieberman’s wife, to be fired from her position at the Susan G. Komen for the Cure Foundation.) “Since they can’t attack his position, they’re attacking him personally,” says McCain. “I don’t think that tactic will work with Joe Lieberman. I know [the criticism] isn’t pleasant for him, but he’s a pretty strong man with very strong beliefs.
CNN: The move to pressure the Susan G. Komen for the Cure foundation came the same day Lieberman’s husband angered Democrats by announcing that he would not support an expansion of Medicare to cover individuals under the age of 55. Organizers did not point to that decision, instead citing Hadassah Lieberman’s own ties to the health care industry.
NBC First Read: Speaking of Lieberman, the liberal Web site Firedoglake has called on Susan G. Komen for the Cure “to dump Hadassah Lieberman as its ‘Global Ambassador’ due to her ties to the same healthcare industry that is actively fighting Congressional healthcare reform,” per a release.
CBS: Firedoglake launched a petition and sent a formal letter to the group requesting they part ways with Hadassah Lieberman for two reasons: Mrs. Lieberman is a former health insurance lobbyist, Hamsher writes, and her husband Joe Lieberman is “an instrument of obstruction to the kind of health care reform advocated by Susan G. Komen for the Cure.”
Wall Street Journal: “Today, Firedoglake is launching a petition asking supporters to sign a letter urging Mrs. Lieberman’s firing. Hamsher is also trying to gain attention for the effort by calling on the various celebrities aligned with Komen, including Ellen DeGeneres and Christie Brinkley, to call for her ousting.”
WaPo reports that Komen will continue to give money to Hadassah Lieberman, according to Komen’s Sean Tuffnell, who said they have no intention of “bowing to pressure”: “We have every intention of continuing our relationship with Ms. Lieberman in our mutual pursuit of a world without breast cancer,” Tuffnell said.
NY Daily News: “Komen has thus far not been inclined to listen.”
ABC’s The Note: Not just Joe feeling the heat: “Firedoglake has called on Susan G. Komen for the Cure to dump Hadassah Lieberman as its ‘Global Ambassador’ due to her ties to the same healthcare industry that is actively fighting Congressional healthcare reform. The group also called on prominent Komen celebrity spokespeople, such as Ellen DeGeneres, Andie MacDowell and Christie Brinkley, to lend support in ousting Lieberman.” http://action.firedoglake.com/page/s/hadassah
NPR: And Joe isn’t the only Lieberman targeted. Firedoglake, the liberal blog penned by Jane Hamsher, has called on Susan G. Komen for the Cure to “dump Hadassah [Mrs. Joe] Lieberman as its ‘Global Ambassador’ due to her ties to the same healthcare industry that is actively fighting Congressional healthcare reform”::
Fox News: The site Firedoglake has started lobbying celebrities attached to the organization, Susan G. Komen for the Cure — including daytime talk show host Ellen DeGeneres and actor Neil Patrick Harris — to use their star power to force out Lieberman.
CNN’s Situation Room just mentioned it, and Joe himself doesn’t seem to be happy about the heat. Poor thing. If you’d like to see more attention paid to fact that Komen is using money raised by those who are “racing for the cure” to give to Hadassah Lieberman, please consider donating to the campaign.



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Jane, you are a warrior.
I’m a humble peasant.
Good luck!
If I were any of the leaders at Komen, I’d be ashamed to have Hadassah act as a global ambassador when she can’t even influence her own husband to stop blocking necessary reforms in health care.
They clearly chose a horrible spokesperson.
jane is a force of nature
I could be, and often am, wrong, but I don’t think her ability or inability to influence her husband has anything to do with it.
I think it’s her own lobbying ties to the very industry that is spending all its dollars and efforts to kill real reform that is the problem.
I mean, I suppose if Mitch McConnell’s wife was on the board or acted as global ambassador, but wasn’t a lobbyest representing PHRMA, it wouldn’t be an issue, would it?
Btw, I just put up a diary thanking Lieberman for perfectly positioning Obama and Reid for us.
On health care reform, there’re no bullshit positions in the middle any more. Thanks, Joe!
Looking foward to seeing you on with Ed, Jane.
Go Jane! Quite a list of MSM notices. Hope the Ed show bit goes well.
The whole “race for the cure” thing does not make a lot of sense to me. The NIH has more than enough cash, as do many research universities.
It seems like they just help corporate “pinkwashing” – good PR for companies that don’t even give all that much money.
Just to be clear:
Exactly what is her position at S. G. Komen? And, is it a paid position, or volenteer?
And what is her relationship with the healthcare industry? It is not clear from any of the articles’ quotes. Was it a real position, or was it a ghost job? Did/does she actualy do any work, or is it a pay-off to her husband?
Jane’s post from earlier in the day should provide you with answers
Heh…! What a hoot…!
That’s their story and they’re sticking to it…!
where’s that from CT ?
Randi Rhodes on board and approachable. From earlier thread:
Randi Rhodes just read your Komen petition on the air, said “Good for you, Jane Hamsher. I’ll sign that” and added if there’s anything else she can do, she’ll do it.
Maybe a national segment tomorrow with you?
Whoa. Your story really did get a lot of traction. I’d guess the phone lines (and email circuits) around the beltway are burning up right about now. HA!
Go Jane! And knock ‘em dead on Ed…
Luv what you do Jane. Now time to push for a strong, national, competitive Public Option through RECONCILIATION-needing 51 votes instead of 60 to pass-makine LIEberman, Nelson, Lincoln, Landrie ABSOLUTELY MEANINGLESS !!!!
Time to shout out loud to Harry/Your Senators/THE MEDIA…Rach…Ed…K.O. and the Gang…
RECONCILIATION !!!!!
Thank You
I love how John McCain projects his own discomfort with criticism onto Joe and assumes he’s squirming just as much.
These criminals have been hanging out with each other for so long that they can’t look objectively at conduct; they can only think, “well, if my pal Senator ___ is doing it, it must be okay.”
“And BTW, what are you scum doing in criticizing us Leaders?”
I’m with ya all the way Jane!
Someone should tell that McCain that having Hadassah as a spokesperson for affordable and accessible breast cancer treatments would be a bit like having his wife be a spokesperson for sobriety.
nice work, but real health care reform is already dead. Game Over. Harkin just told reporters that the buy-in is no longer an option, so at best it will be Snowe drafting a trigger. Thank you Rahm, Lieberman, Obama and the rest of our bold party leaders. Now we can all wait another 20 years for health care that every other industrialized country in the world offers.
There are people dying, and Lieberman is one of many Senators playing around with peoples lives. So McCain can take his little tweets and blow them out his ass.
Jane on Ed Show
Jane!!!
Jane is sure looking Great tonight!!
Here… cbl2…! ;-)
Jane looks great…! *g*
“Both of them are engaged in advancing the interests of big companies over the people”
Bahaha. And Jane gets a dig in at Rahm as well.
Love it.
jane, you were fabulous. I wish Ed would shut up and quit interrupting you, but you did the very best with what was available to you.
alright Jane nice interview! and to the point!!
All the MSM puffery and blather about Der Lieberweasel’s HCR stands, not one fookin’ one of them has the courage to tell the truth.
Der Lieberweasel’s HCR stands are simply out of spite. Nothing more, nothing less!
thanks sweetie – figured it out through the google
Jane is [Edited by Moderator. No personal attacks, please] and the sheer amount of time and money it took to worry over this is unbelievable. Komen Foundation has already stated they will NOT dismiss Leiberman and value her position. OMG, find something useful to do with your time. Talking points and sheep….par for the course.
and their flim flammery on Dorgan Amendment !
free range bitchez!
Jane Hamsher is a true leader
Jane is quite the spokesperson! Succinct — and gracious through the interruptions. She got the message out — and clearly!
Lieberman and the missus are obstructionists…….and that message got out. Get a grip.
Hi Jane. you’re my hero :) Don’t back down and don’t let them fly that “is this getting too personal” b.s. either.
Denying single payer/lower drug costs is pretty personal also, and I think, quite close to murder.
Never?
In Bed with Big Pharma
Thank God for Joe Liebermann and others oppossing the President and other Democrats wanting a single-pay system for health care. GET GOVERNMNET OUT OF TELLING US WE NEED THEM OR WANT THEM TO MANAGE HEALTH CARE. You want them, and silly people like Jane, telling you what food you can buy, what kind of furniture you can have in your house, etc. etc. OH…and before I forget — Banks…haha…the fat cats…..have they made a fool out of the President. Jane is NO LEADER.
Jane,
Do you really believe what you are saying? How do you look yourself in the mirror and feel good about youself. Quite appropriate that you appeared on the Ed show with two and a half users (the half being myself who was flipping channels and caught you).
You are trying to make a political issue of the good work that the Foundation does. Shame on you !!!
“I wish Ed would shut up and quit interrupting you, but you did the very best with what was available to you.”
I haven’t seen it yet, but I can already anticipate my reaction to the interruptions. Under those circumstances, it’s all I can do to keep from pulling an “Elvis” on the TV machine box…
That’s what LIEberman’s sayin’…! Oh… Wait a sec…! ;-)
Go Jane! Go pups! A LOT of blogs are now picking this up in a positive way.
Given the volume and intensity of Troll blowback on this, Jane hit a few nerves – which is precisely what is required, not only on this issue, but on plenty of others, as well. And…
What “socialism?” Oh, right – the “socialism” that is occuring for the benefit of Big Pharma and Insurance. Yup, they’re ridin’ that “socialism” gravytrain, alright. As for the masses (retarded trolls included), expect zippo…
So put a dirty gym sock in it, will ya?
Hmmm, the link for Troll Bingo seems to be down…
This is a very good day at the lake Missing WH Emails, Joe caught on tape a few months ago supporting what he now wants to filibuster and the Media actual carrying news about one of Jane’s campaigns?
Did FDL win the lottery? Not since Karl Rove resigned have we had such a good day.
i am confused here: is this a tactic or a strategy?
joe lieberman is a smuck, no doubt. personally, i think he has some sort of narcissistic attention disorder and would be served by using his excellent federal insurance to seek psychological counseling.
mrs. joe’s connections to insurance lobbys and clearly conflicting interests at the komen foundation is something that the organization should re-evaluate.
but the connection cannot be assumed; it can be an educated guess but you can’t make the case unless you are the fly on the wall at the lieberman home. do you think that pointing out the association and leaving the decision as to how it is addressed to the komen staff might be more strategical. putting it this way makes fdl the issue: is that what you are going for, jane?
Personally, I am APPALLED that the race for the cure is PAYING ANYONE to be an ambassador~that is not what I give my money for!!
They probably crashed the site. Maybe they can move over to Troll Tic Tac Doe…crash that site, too…
No Kidding! A Pox on Lieberman’s house, Jane’s campaign gets reported in MSM, lost WH Emails found. Yay!
Off Topic Thought I’d repost this
http://firedoglake.com/2009/12/14/well-thats-all-very-interesting-says-the-american-press-but-a-famous-black-man-has-slept-with-blondes/#comments
I honestly can’t remember much about Bill but the day we get the news he dies the all the News Media covers Jane going after Hadassah? We get most of the missing WH emails, and we get Joe on tape supporting what he now wants to filibuster.
Believe what you want about God Fire Pups but Bill seems to have really liked us:)
There ya go. Foundations need personnel to perform administrative functions, keep the books straight, etc. But a “Global Ambassador” who (I’m guessing) takes down a pretty hefty salary to go to social functions and tap dance? Um…Nope. And in this case, there’s that whole, “I’m married to Holy Joe” thing, (arguably) the biggest douchebag on HCR in the whole US Senate. That dog don’t hunt…
My condolences to Bill’s loved ones.
Its worse than a Pox Joe has the Dead to fear:).
Delighted to see that the Komen Issue Is Going Viral!
Learning more about THEM is ranking them up there with NARAL and National PP.
Groups who exploit women and women’s issues to further careers and political goals, in giving cover to corporate overlords for supposed charitable investment . . . .
There’s no DOUBT that having Mz. Joe as a spokesperson is bad PR, and MORALLY BANKRUPT! And that’s just taking Mz. Joe as his wife, never MIND the real base issue of her being a former lobbyist for corps killing american’s and their health.
There’s no shred of doubt Komen Foundation has publicly humiliated themselves and their mission.
MZ. JOE GOTTA GO!!!!
And Komen needs FURTHER light shed on their expenditures in view of what their mission is. WHERE DOES THE DONATION MONEY GO? WHO DOES IT HELP?
Taking it to the belly of the beast, one day at a time, way to go Mz. Hamsher.
*G*
Maybe Cheney will be indicted by the Hague today, too.
I keep rolled up socks or koosh balls near the tv for just such occasions.
I’ve had Ed on mute up ’til now, but the “Tiger” story is on, so I’m listening again. Marveling, though, at the amount of time devoted to this “issue” vs. cutting off Jane.
Look, I know Ed’s in our corner, but he’d do better by managing the time better to give more of it to Jane, by cutting back on the stupid questions and by stopping the interrupting [to ask the stupid questions]. C’mon, Ed, you can do better!!
Look, I know Ed’s in our corner, but he’d do better by managing the time better to give more of it to Jane, to ask non-stupid questions and to stop interrupting [to ask the stupid questions]. C’mon, Ed, you can do better!!
Bingo!
Ed is hard to watch. Something about the guy doesn’t sit well with me.
Whack a troll.
http://whitenoiseinsanity.com/2009/12/14/bill-in-pa-has-died/comment-page-1/#comment-72681
You can leave a comment for the family there.
Ooh! We’re getting the trolls emerging from the dark on this one, Jane. You’ve pointed out that Komen has been supporting someone that is deeply involved in actually impeding womens access to the drugs they need.
Here’s something else of interest.
Astra-Zeneca was the manufacturer of Tamoxofil, the drug that was kept at extremely high price levels until its patent expired. While the the drug is much less expensive now in the US, it’s still ten times the price in the EEC.
Guess who were two prime members on the “Lieberman for President” Committee back in 2000?
The CEO of Aetna and the CEO of Astra-Zeneca!
Here’s some more good news: Rahm is talking about reconciliation.
Yes, that would be the best present eveh. We could turn his ranch in Wyoming into a treatment center for wounded soldiers coming back from his wars with substance abuse problems on top of their wounds.
Pay for it with his Haliburton plunder.
To dream.
Notice the news doesn’t have any reporters any more? Or is it only one? There is no difference that the basic fact check and the few words being created. We have to remember not to affiliate them with news. They are copy machines on tv. They employ actors as readers. They have contracts to perform. They have so many outrageous things they can say each week, 13 weeks, and how many other shows they get to be on. They are in a union, and they are all union busters. They could not get work as actors in any other way because they have to read their lines. They do not have enough memory to handle parts and memorization required to be a proper actor.
Folks, these are the kids at school that cared only about the clothing. These are the jocks that never quite finished school, but got nice jobs in advertising. Don’t pretend they are any more than a company trying influence public opinion. They and the rest, bought our FEC into compliance with their terms, not the ones created by congress. They broke the monopoly laws with the amount of stations they controlled in local, regional and national. They bought compliance from congress and the FEC for that.
Please, it is a pawn that expects the game to be rigged. Go in knowing the game is completely rigged, you know who is covering you back. No one.
Why would Komen then say that they refused to stop paying her to be their “Ambassador”? It’s pretty clear that Komen ARE paying here…otherwise they would have offered a “clarification”. And if it were only a small gratuity” (i.e. covering her travel expenses) then why didn’t they present that information?
It suggests that Haddassah is paid a substantial salary.
The Komen Foundation really has a Doouble-Bad Whammy on the Mrs. Joe issue:
1) they’re apparently PAYING her money. She doesn’t need it [she's rich], and the “normal” MO for being associated with a non-profit is that you give THEM money. They don’t funnel some of the funds raised through all those races to someone like Mrs. Joe; and
2)regardless of whether or not they’re paying her, in choosing to have her associated with them, they’ve chosen someone who represents, by her actions, the antithesis of what they claim to be for. She works for companies who want to REDUCE insurance coverage for breast cancer patients, as well as for companies who OPPOSE measures that would reduce the cost of breast cancer drugs.
THESE are the reasons she’s being targeted, not because she has such “effective pillow talk” with Rape Gurney Joe., [Eww, the image burns.]
In order to respect the mods and the general tenor of this site, I’ll not say what I’d like for Rahm to “reconcile” with.
i do not doubt that for a moment. and i do, personally, feel the whole thing is pretty skanky. esp given mr. joe’s sorry assed behavior: he’s a petty selfish man. but the direct relationship between our disgust with him and her position at komen is not decisive enough to be “demanding” that the foundation do anything.
and if they feel they are being attacked they are likely to reacte reflexively and defend their relationship w/mrs. joe. that’s doesn’t mean they won’t take care of it quietly. i’m just saying that being so incredibly aggressive on this leaves them no option but to be defensive and self protective.
lol, believe it or not, you did just fine with those very words. I’ve got a perfect image in my mind….. and a smile on my face.
Heh.
What is this Christmas already:)
Then there is the manufacturer of Taxol…Bristol-Myers-Squibb. They gave Lieberman over $26,000 in campaign donations from their PAC, while the Chairman donated $4000…the largest amount any one politician received.
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/toprecips.php?id=D000000149&cycle=A
And…is that right? Don’t they owe their contributors a decent response as to why they are paying ANYONE funds donated to their organization? Who have participated in “Run for the Cure”? If they don’t have anything but a reflexive or “defensive” (as in “You don’t have the right to criticize us”) they need new management.
It’s clear that Hadassah Lieberman has acted as a lobbyist for major Pharma. Her husband is acting in ways that benefits big Pharma. The actions of Lieberman and big Pharma are blocking the passage of a Bill that would benefit millions of women with breast, and other cancers.
Should Komen be paying anyone with such ties to be an Ambassador? Should they not justify the amount paid and the linkage itself?
Agreed.
How much money goes to big pharma from SK to fund their “search” for a “cure?” Of course, she is probably actually the SK “Ambassador to Big Pharma.”
Bill would be thrilled with the improvements today, TCU! :-)
I’m pretty sure I covered those points in my comment, thanks for repeating them, they bear repeating and shouting. *G*
“. . . . but the direct relationship between our disgust with him and her position at komen is not decisive enough to be “demanding” that the foundation do anything.”
Yer killin me.
We are disgusted with HER (and Komen) for her former lobbying efforts, for taking a salary in the FIRST place, and for HAVING the relationship with a foundation that’s ‘sposed to be raising money for a cure for cancers, not paying a traveling ambassador to open doors, grease wheels and get healthcare companies and private insurers to give money to Komen for a clean conscience.
That’s what I call being morally bankrupt, on the part of Mz. Joe, Komen, and the healthcare and insurance companies.
You do us all a disservice by misnaming and mislabeling what Mz. Hamsher’s campaign is all about, and why we all support it with great vigor.
huh, interesting
Hey McCain has to stand up for leiberweasel because Joe saved Him from looking really stupid several times in His Campaign.
McCain didn’t mind personal attacks when He was running, and using every one He could.
If Hypocricy was a crime these people would be exicutable for that and stupidity.
thanks jane you are my hero a 3 time survivor and i hope to be like you and survive also i think this healthcare debate is life or death for me with my pre-exsisting conditions, but with my political activism i just have to follow your leads!! thank you very much.
Jane, great strategy to expose the hypocrisy of these people.
On a side note, after the young Senator from Illinois arrived in Washington, D.C. in 2005, he chose this man as his “mentor” in the Senate:
Joe Lieberman
But, apparently, from what I’ve learned about SGK just recently, it is a very Republican organization, and you know that such orgs exist only to channel funds and enrich their “base” or as GWB also referred to them: the “have-mores.”
You know who I donate to through my payroll deduction?
Not to orgs like SGK.
The Salvation Army, a particular branch of it (in SE PA) that I have visited, and where I know they make every cent count.
Yes, it is a religious organization, but they do help the most downtrodden.
I doubt that they have any global ambassadors on retainer.
Jane,
Excellent work on this. Boiling the whole thing down to specific people and specific organizations doing things which sound (and usually are) fishy.
How about something like this as a topper? The left blogs often talk about the death toll from inaction on the Health Care front. How about a die-in?
My mom died of ill-diagnosed cancer not too many moons ago, and she was looking for some way to enable her passing to count at a broader level. I’m sure there are many others that, given the right “opportunity”, compassion, support and appropriate branding (somehow more appropriate than a “die-in” anyway), that would lend the drama of their situations and stories so that their families and friends could be spared similar traumas.
I have seen that the RACE FOR THE CURE has appeared a Republican funding organization for awhile now so I don’t give money to that organization.
As for putting heat on Lieberman I like this petition http://bit.ly/public_option
this puts heat on Bank of America that gave money to Olympia Snowe, and on American Express who gave money to Max Baucus, and Tyson Foods that gave money to Mike Ross, the Blue Dog Democrat leader on health care who opposes a public option and Gallo Wines who gave money to Nancy Pelosi who backed away from a strong public option and other companies that gie money to conservatives.
To put heat on other companies for an increase in the minimum wage, to end the wars, to pass EFCA, etc. see http://WWW.DEMOCRATZ.ORG
You hit the nail on the head. This was an extremely effective shot across the bow. It put enemies of health care on the defensive. John McCain is riding his twitter account to Traitor Joe’s defense? Jane Hamsher has got some power and she’s not afraid to use it. We need ten more of her, running ten more campaigns as hard-hitting as this.
exactly what part of increasing funding for cancer research is nonsensical? The NIH, NCI, DoD have been funding cancer research (specifically breast cancer research in the case of DoD) for decades. Still no cure. And you want to see LESS funding?
There’s this thing called Google:
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/12/01/toy-immigration/
“The Salvation Army and a charity affiliated with the Houston Fire Department are among those that consider immigration status, asking for birth certificates or Social Security cards for the children”
and
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/12/01/toy-immigration/
“The Salvation Army and a charity affiliated with the Houston Fire Department are among those that consider immigration status, asking for birth certificates or Social Security cards for the children”
It’s really neat. Why don’t you try it for yourself and see how many hits there are for “salvation army” and “ambassador
1. In 2000 JL was a Democrat.
2. It’s called Tamoxifen. If you’re looking for an example of Pharma control of our legislative process, you might want to start somewhere else.
Tamoxifen was synthesized in 1962 when it was patented in Europe. The US patent issue in the 1980′s. Barr Labs Inc had challenged the ICI/AZ patent (which in 1992 was ruled unenforcable) but later came to an agreement with Zeneca to licence the patent and sell tamoxifen at close to Zeneca’s price ["Tamoxifen". Lawsuits & Settlements. Prescription Access Litigation. http://www.prescriptionaccess.org/lawsuitssettlements/past_lawsuits?id=0029. Retrieved 2008-11-14.]
3. Not everyone who thinks Jane’s petition is a bad idea is a troll. As evidenced by Karen M’s comments above, this effort has great potential to drive donations completely away from breast cancer funding and perhaps, as occurred following scandals at the Red cross and Uited Way, to drive down charitable giving on the whole.
This looks more and more like a pissing contest every day, and very little good legislation has ever been derived from urine.
apologies. correct URL for second point:
http://tinyurl.com/sallvarmyoverhead
The Salvation Army is not required to file their statistics, so it is not possible to make an absolute evaluation of their efficiency as a charity. However, the AIP has posted a report on them at http://www.charitywatch.org/articles/salvarmy.html which gives them high marks for their finances, and low marks on their governance (mostly due to lack of an independent board and transparent reporting).
AIP also have a list of their top-rated charities, which includes in its criteria that 75% of raised funds are used for the charitable purpose of the organization (“Most highly efficient charities are able to spend 75% or more on programs”). The full list is at http://www.charitywatch.org/toprated.html and the criteria are at http://www.charitywatch.org/criteria.html .
Here’s the problem: corrupt practices, unethical behavior, irredeemable conflicts – they all flourish ONLY if they are not brought to light. We have had just about enough of sitting on our hands and waiting for ‘the really, really big one’ to come along so we can go ‘wide’ with it. The bar for conduct of public servants and faux philanthropists is now nearly invisible.
That is precisely how we got to the point where people like Dick Cheney are tolerated, how people like Alberto Gonzales can be confirmed by the US Senate, how the country stood still while George Bush let New Orleans drown.
These two, the Lieberman’s, are grifters and disgraces to public service, and their turn at the trough could use some healthy scrutiny. And while you can judge their conduct for yourself, so too should those who believe they are enriching mankind by contributing to Komen (a foundation that is quite possibly blameless) be entitled to some sunlight.
I’m all for sunshine, but thriving in the dark does not equate with being killed by the light. Every attack on HL as a SGKF employee can be reasonably construed as an indirect attack on SGKF, and subjects them to charges of guilt by association. This is especially true if they decide to keep HL on their payroll. (note: someone on a related thread said she makes all of $1000/yr – in my world that’s a pretty meager salary)
Even if this strategy “works” I predict that SGKF will forever be seen as a Pharma pawn in many minds, particularly on the left, while those who pay only scant attention to the news will now have vague recollections that there’s something fishy at SGKF. Either result is unlikely to drive donations in the direction of any BrCa charity.
It boggles my mind to see a breast cancer survivor focus so much negative energy on a breast cancer research philanthropy. Surely there are more effective ways to bring about healthcare reform? I think going after Liebrman is a valid tactic, but IMO this particular approach is a loser.
IS THIS the same Jane Hamsher who said this ??
” Is this the same Jane Hamscher who said this ???
” On the DVD of Natural Born Killers: The Director’s Cut, one of the producers, Jane Hamsher, recounts stories of taking psilocybin mushrooms with Stone and some of the cast and crew and almost getting pulled over by a police officer ”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Stone
WHY ANYONE CARES WHAT HOLLYWOOD TYPES SAY ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT
OR POLICY ISSUES IS BEYOND ME. DOES THAT MEAN EVERY FORMER
POT-SMOKING, DRUG USING PERSON IS RELEVANT, ON MATTERS OF
NATIONAL IMPORTANCE ??
ONLY IF YOU’RE FOOLISH ENOUGH TO LISTEN TO WHAT THEY SAY.
Yeah. Fuck those Hollywood types, like Ronald Reagan.
And a lovely good morning to you as well! Maybe someday you will join the ranks of civilized discourse. But somehow I doubt it…
i am not disputing the general sorry-ness of the whole thing: i am saying that using her conduct as a means of attacking and undermining his sorry ass behavior simply may not be the most effective strategy.
it has been a wildly effective tactic and go team for embarrassing these fools. but skanky behavior does not prove a causal link. it only assumes influence.
that is my point. this genie is out of the bottle and good on jane for it, but it won’t do a damned thing for healthcare reform if mr. joe digs in his heels and sticks out that bottom lip because those mean old liberals are being mean to his best girl.
Ok if I recall correctly from the original post her salary is over $300,000. This is arguably the salary several people would normally be paid.
This really makes me question Komen and what they hell they are doing with all those hundreds of millions…will post if I find anything.
Do you know how Nancy Keenan undermines the mission of NARAL? By being a fund-raising stooge beholden to precisely those she should be doing battle with. The big-dollar NARAL funding comes from sources that benefit from Keenan’s passivity on the very issues that define NARAL’s mission.
I use Keenan as an example NOT because of a direct comparison with HL, but because Keenan knows (as do NARAL’s benefactors) that the best way to undermine NARAL is to be inside NARAL.
And I want to be clear about this: I do not know if HL’s affiliation with Komen has anything to do with undermining them – it could be as simple as wanting to polish her image, or an effort to soothe her blighted soul, gone terribly wrong.
HL’s non-philanthropic career was devoted to lobbying for interests contrary to what I would term, ‘the civic good,’ and her unspeakable whore of a husband is, well, Joe Lieberman. If you need the synchronicity of these two people and the issues at hand spelled out, we should stop talking right now.
It is not that she is some kind of sport meat, or ‘fair game,’ but she expects her body of professional work to be somehow washed away, even though it runs contrary to everything Komen stands for. And at night, she beds a man whose public service has achieved legendary depths of the despicable, and whose public policy ‘interests’ are not counter to HL’s, judging from her client list.
I think the donors need to have a look inside. That is just an opinion. And if, in having that look, that foundation, and organizations like it decide that they are responsible for the repute of their “Global Ambassadors,” that would be a good thing.