Not since the great Lincoln -Douglas debates will the American public have been exposed to such a magnificent display of oratorical skills:
INGRAHAM: Would you agree to a debate with Al Gore on this issue?
PALIN: Oh my goodness. You know, it depends on what the venue would be, what the forum. Because Laura, as you know, if it would be some kind of conventional, traditional debate with his friends setting it up or being the commentators I’ll get clobbered because, you know, they don’t want to listen to the facts. They don’t want to listen to some reasonable voices in this. And that was proven with the publication of this op-ed, where they kind of got all we-weed up about it and wanted to call me and others deniers of changing weather patterns and climate conditions. Trying to make the issue into something that it is not.
INGRAHAM: But what if it’s an Oxford-style, proper debate format. I mean, he’s going to chicken out. I mean, if you challenge him to a debate, do you actually think he would accept it?
PALIN: I don’t know, I don’t know. Oh, he wouldn’t want to lower himself, I think, to, you know, my level to debate little old Sarah Palin from Wasilla.
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Ah. well, I can’t call a fuckin’ moron a fuckin’ moron here any more.
Time for me to be movin’ on, I guess.
Also. Meanies.
When Sarah Palin gets a shot on the op-ed page of the WaPoo to argue against global warming, you know the republic is already in decline.
????
priceless
watertiger! outrageous entertainment indeed
Michelle Malkin vs Watertiger: Who’s a Funny Lady now?
Funny Ha-ha or funny peculiar?
Jim Kramer vs Matt Taibbi: What Financial Meltdown?
I’m still trying to wrap my head around “wee-weed up”.
Normally I’m opposed to getting into a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent, but we’re way beyond that already.
I have to deal with enough of that at work. (Quality control is so much fun. Not.)
No, you just ran into some of the more recent trolls.
We don’t seem to be getting as good a quality as we used to. We must have worn out a lot of them last year with the elections and stuff.
not even spotting 40 iq points would help….
Spotting 140 points would still leave it in the negative numbers.
PALIN: “I don’t know, I don’t know. Oh, he wouldn’t want to lower himself, I think, to, you know, my level to debate little old Sarah Palin from Wasilla.”
Weasel words. Example above. cute, self deprecating wording in an attempt to not answer a question where the correct answer would be to tell the truth. In this case, the correct answer should have been, “Hell no! I wouldn’t challenge Al Gore to a debate! I’m pretty, but I’m pretty stupid too, and I don’t want the other 20% of America to think that too!”
“Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.” - Abraham Lincoln
Virginia Foxx vs. The Dalai Lama: “Blind Hatred IS Bliss”
I saw this news item. Not since Bill Kristol stooged for Dan Quayle, has a faux op-ed’ist had less to work with. Keeping Palin away from microphones needs to be done in shifts.
also dogwhistles about those hateful, liberal East Coast elitists who value intellect over mindlessness.
Gore vs. Palin – would pay lots to see it.
The picture is wonderful. Also.
The republic has flatlined.
Sounds risky, better hope the wind doesn’t shift.
Yeah, that’s just plain weird. I’m guessing the first phrase she thought of was something you can’t say on TV, and this oddity was the best her limited brain could come up with in a clutch.
I cannot look or listen to Palin. It gags me.
Name one thing that she is smarter than.
Teabaggers are all about pissing into the wind.
I’ve pinpointed the exact moment when Western Civilization entered free fall. It was when manufacturers of frozen pizzas concluded they had to instruct people to remove the plastic wrapper prior to baking.
Sarah Palin would lose a debate over global warming with a polar bear.
Then she’d shoot it.
Watertiger once again your wit precedes ya…! ;-)
a rock. a very small rock but still a rock.
Well, who doesn’t enjoy a warm rain?
Then she’d shoot him… From a helicopter…!
OT.
Heat wave in the northern Rockies! Got up to the positive double digits today. Time to break out the shorts and sunscreen.
Aloha Suz…! *g*
Windchill in the negative teens last night. Actual temp never got above the positive teens here today… and me wearing only a sock.
aloha ct
What happened? I had to leave that thread….
(curtsies)
It got really, really boring and lasted a long time.
Did Bob hide your clothes again?
That’s exactly what I was thinking! Spooky!
This is the first time this week it got into double digits. Had lows in the minus teens earlier this week and wind chills in the negative 20s. Been wearing my high tech undies all week.
curtsies or ducking one of them missed tomatoes that are cropping up where palin is?
hey redshift — nice to see ya again
how the hell did that guy miss?!
Jeebus, are yer Boxers in the wash ?
Too bad they missed…! ;-)
Bob is a FREAK for fabric. I can’t carry laundry through the room unless he’s in his cage. He’ll launch himself straight at it. He’s okay about apparel after it’s on but I have to leave the room to don a sweater. Weird, I think it is probably related to some experience in his pre-rescue days.
I don’t think I wanted to know that.
Dang, now I owe ya a quaff…! My tab is getting ginormous, Suz…! Help…!!! ;-)
geez louise my 94 year old grandmother could throw a ‘mater more accurate than that dood
Trig taught her wee-weed-up. Something about a little unit, which apparently Tiger doesn’t have.
I don’t wear ‘em too high, tech or otherwise but then, I like ballroom dancing.
It’s a rat thing. They like to turn fabric into bedding.
Masterson and Whomp! went through towels to the point where I was tempted by those magazine-cover ads for towel sets,
That was pretty sad. Bad enough he missed his intended target but exceptionally bad form to hit a cop in the face.
What…?!! Ya looked at the banned pics…?
Laura Ingraham must be secretly wanting Sarah to self-destruct. Why else would she challenge Sarah to debate Al Gore?
never a good thing
The thought did cross my mind that perhaps Ingraham was acting out of something less than altruism…
Yeah, and as if Gore would “chicken out” of a debate.
But Bob’s just a widdle bird. He shreds paper but not fabric. He has a couple old washcloths we play games with, mostly him flinging them on the floor and crowing as I pick them up.
One sock? That won’t do. Call Sarah for help!
One of the most disturbing accompanying photos I’ve seen in awhile. Well done.
aiiight, i got one more day of work this week…
peace out, wise ones. don’t get yerselves all wee-weed up over the trolls!
So, when he launches himself at the laundray, does he grab something and fly off with it?
(picturing…)
It is really nice to see Redshift again. Had the pleasure of meeting him in Chicago in 2007.
Gore has nothing from debating Sarah. Sharing the spotlight with her only gives her prominence.
Whatever he says will be spun as condescending, misogynistic, elitist, etc.
g’nite watertiger
Aloha, M’dear… Always a pleasure…! 8-)
No. Haven’t seen any pics.
Night. Think I will head out as well. Take care all.
When his feathers grow out enough to fly he gets really aggressive. He’d land on the laundry but immediately start biting (me) if he gets an opportunity. When his wings are clipped he’d just end up on the carpet. As I mentioned, he is a rescued bird… he has some unresolved issues. No one knows what he was subjected to by his original owner.
Anybody watching Colbert? The man has no qualms about totally humiliating himself….LOL.
Thank goodness for him and Jon Stewart (and RM and KO, but I mean for making the daily horror laughable).
G’nite DrD and WT.
Poor Bob. He’s lucky you came along.
Night, sleepers.
g’nite dr d
“Wee-weed up” sounds like southern sorority talk… from the ’40′s/50s.
Was her mama a Sugarbaker?
(pre-debate handshake)
Palin: “Is it okay if I call you Fat Albert?”
You didn’t hear…? ;-)
Aloha Dr. D…!
Suz… my url didn’t work… http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#34372025
reply: as long i get to call you the wicked witch of the west
In the brit-com Last Of The Summer Wine I’ve sometimes heard characters say in response to a snarky comment, “Aw now you’re just taking a wee-wee.” Might be relevant since Sarah can see Yorkshire from her front porch.
that one did
Heh… She’s got some serious 20/20 vision…! ;-)
Oops…! *blush*
I did, but there was nothing there. Why would we be interested in seeing Tiger nekked?
Or perhaps, “Yes, if I can call you Dumb Donald.”
Exactly…! I thought ya took a gander…!
or cruella de vil
The puddinghead influence..
comes with a theme song yanno. also. utbetcha
Nice to see you both! Dunno why I haven’t been around here much, I just sort of wandered off. Also, we’ve been having the usual series of cascading special elections here in VA. (Monday night was a reorganization meeting for our local Democratic committee — five and a half hours, most of which was spent arguing about rules!)
This one might be more appropriate for Sarah.
Heading out, g’nite y’all.
g’nite rat
Hey Suzanne!
Plus 7 degrees here with just a fraction of an inch of blowing snow. Actually a great improvement over wet, muddy lawns.
Hiya Pups!
hey ce — brrrr but at least ya have eye candy snow falling.
We do love the first snows, and can’t quite imagine winter without them. That said, we have it easy compared to many of our friends here.
Same here, brrrr!
G’nite, all. Got a kitty with a bad cold – time to clean his nose and put us both to bed.
g’nite tejan — hope your kitty gets well soon
Lordy. Hard to work in large groups.
Heh, At least it doesn’t snow on me at sea level…! ;-)
Hey, Christine!
Aloha, tj and rf…!
Take care, tejana.
Thanks for cruella! See my vest (courtesy of rat) is great too!
Who knew toons would be the bast part of broadband..
it has here — lasted a few days and then went away. i like that kinda snow.
Is it safe to venture out??
No Trolls out there are there??
whew it was almost painful… poor kitty..
(((kitty)))
A Labrador Retriever. She might be smarter but at least the Lab doesn’t quit.
ain’t it a wonderful thang! i remember when i finally got out from behind the dialup curtain
Hey Margot,
Stepped over to work to check email. What a bad habit! We have our tree up and lots of lights in the neighborhood. Nice.
Hey Loo Hoo!
How is your neighborhood?
tonight?
Aah, nahant…! You’re not intimidated by a teensy troll… Are ya…? ;-)
After watching Rachel Maddow, I’m going to have to actually read THE FAMILY. Has anyone here read it yet? Jeff, as a guest, is incredible. Does this man need a bodyguard?
Awhile ago… ‘Pretty Kitty’…! ;-)
What thread? I’ll put my skates on and go full metal roller derby on ‘em.
earlier up to about 8PM PST..
Well, this time, it was an unusual coincidence where there was an endorsement for a school board special election at the same time as the reorganization meeting, so both candidates were trying to get their supporters in as members. This meant there weren’t enough slots for everyone, so they got to fight about how it would be decided.
On the other hand, we don’t usually have all the slots full, and hopefully the winning candidate understands it’ll look bad if all of her people just disappear after the school board race, so it could do some good in the long run.
not me…
but it was fun to watch!!
the nerve… come here and put Jane down …
I thought I heard, last night on Rachel, that both Stupak and Pitts were members of “The Family.”
Is this right, does anyone know?
seems so.
do not give them the attention they seek — a classic hijack maneuver is to come in insulting the host in order to rile up everyone and create disharmony and dissent.
it was still fun to watch
Heh.. I kept telling ya’ll to ‘Ssccrrooolll’…! Hello! Don’t feed the trolls…! She kept crowing in our faces…! Wasn’t FDL’s finest moment…! 8-(
Amen, Suz…! *g*
Yup. According to Salon, Stupak even lives at the C Street House.
Yup, Religious fervor does cross party lines…!
It’s mild around here in SD County, Christine. Have the heater set at 68, but it hasn’t kicked on too much. We’re expecting more glorious rain!
According to Rachel, yes. She is adamant about exposing these hypocrites and the members who helped legislate a bill for “kill gays” legislation.
Oh, no. Rain, I hate it the most. Give me snow!
I don’t think she was a troll. She just happened in here because she saw Jane on Ed. Didn’t know what to expect, and came in questioning Jane rather than the bs.
Grrrr. I just hardly say anything anymore except for late nights, because I’m too angry. I don’t trust myself to comment.
Well, Margot, if you’re angry, check out this on Blackwater.
It won’t help.
Me, too Margot. My anger is just too raw. Ask MrCE! In fact, I’ve replaced news, except for Rachel, with reading and cooking. And then treat myself to FDL at night.
What’s next for the Saraccuda? The Earth is flat or The Earth is the center of the Universe?
Hi. I’m pretty much new here. Is he right? Are we not allowed to call a fucking moron a fucking moron? It seems to me he was being allowed to do exactly what he was saying he was not being allowed to do, so pardon me if I’ve wandered into the middle of something I simply do not understand.
On the other hand, I’ve suddenly decided I might be a refugee from HP, because a site I loved is seeming increasingly difficult to spend my time on, and increasingly less worth the effort. Putting most of an hour on a single carefully-worded response that never gets posted… then seeing someone else has posted a half-dozen or more juvenile insults that all sail through immediately… it’s discouraging.
In other words, I’m new here, help, where should I start?
OK, it looks like replies are not nested… got it. I’ll try to make references more timely.
I’ve got a very good idea… I’ll try introducing myself tomorrow instead. Right now I’m just feeling too heart-broken about too many different things to want to sit here and hit reload over and over. So when I return, one of the things I’ll hope for is for someone to quietly clue me in on how to catch up with where the focus has shifted to.
Oh yeah, before I go… making connections:
Noam Chomsky on why we shouldn’t be ridiculing the right:
http://www.reddit.com/comments/adbna/noam_chomsky_on_why_we_shouldnt_be_ridiculing_the/
Just something that gently slapped me in the face and reminded me that, as much fun as ridiculing the right might be, it’s not necessarily productive.
Oh, I remember that feeling well!
From past experience, lurk a bit first. Depending on your schedule, you’ll find different people at varying times of the day. Welcome – even if a bit belated.
hey lochmon — sorry i didn’t see this earlier — most of the readers are upstairs on the late late night thread
welcome to firedoglake
“most of the readers are upstairs”.
Could someone explain to a newbie the meaning of “upstairs” and
“downstairs” as related to FDL?
I know what you mean. I owe that bag of hammers an apology.
Everything she says is some passive-aggressive variation on “I hate you and I will believe whatever I have to about you so that you deserve my hatred, and I can sneer at you and deride you and yet still tell myself that I’m righteous and justified in what I’m doing.”