Not a great day, but definitely a good day. First, in DC:
The D.C. Council voted Tuesday to legalize same-sex marriage in the District….
After months of debate, the council passed the bill 11 to 2. It still must take a second vote in two weeks before the measure can go to Mayor Adrian M. Fenty (D), who has said he will sign it.
If the bill survives a required congressional review period, the District will join New Hampshire, Connecticut, Iowa, Vermont and Massachusetts in allowing same-sex marriage.
That sounds like a done deal, assuming the Blue Dogs don’t muck up the congressional review. Excellent.
And does everyone remember when the NJ legislature was going to legalize gay marriage during the lame duck session so Corzine could sign it, and then suddenly they weren’t? Well, it looks like a letter from 200 prominent NJ Democrats has given them a much-needed ball transplant:
An insider tells me that Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Paul Sarlo has sent a draft schedule to the Senate President’s office for next Monday which includes the bill S1967. That is the bill legalizing marriage between same sex couples in New Jersey. The Senate President must approve the bills that will be heard in the Senate Judiciary Committee on December 7th. So for now, it is up to Dick Codey. Should he greenlight it, that bill will finally get it’s long awaited hearing.
This is nowhere near as done a deal as DC, but it’s a helluva lot closer than it was a week ago, when there were no plans to vote at all.
I really do hope it passes in NJ. It wouldn’t just benefit NJ; every time a state legalizes gay marriage it becomes a little more mainstream, a little less of a big deal. The Overton Window slides another scosh to the left, and the homophobic nonsense argument that gay marriage undermines “traditional” marriage looks sillier and sillier as opposite-marriage continues to not spontaneously combust. In short, it creates… momentum.
As the NJ letter so aptly quotes Dr. King: “The arc of the moral universe is long but it bends toward justice.” It can be like trying to see the curvature of the Earth sometimes, but it’s there.
Happy World AIDS Day, everybody!



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Hey Eli!
Yeah ! Hi, Eli.
Hey egreg! Hi Twain!
Here’s hoping there’s a pie cooling on the ledge.
Hi Egregious, Eli!
and Twain and Newtonusr
The Rapture is Tomorrow, and will be televised on Fox.
Heh, Indeed.
Visible only on your iphone.
Good for DC. Now watch wingnuts’ heads explode.
O fekkin NO!
All my buttons are getting pushed tonight! War, Gays with teh Marriage and PIE!
[arglebargleumphfeh! goes to corner to recover for a moment.]
Oy, Rachel sez O chose the highest troop increase that was on the table.
Marion Barry (D-People Are Still Voting For Him?) was one of the 2 Nays. Apparently delivered an impassioned speech about how much he loves and supports Teh Gays but his ward doesn’t. Yay.
That video cracks me up.
Hey, if we can’t get the wars, maybe we can get teh gays.
Enjoyed the video until I learned I’m wearing lesbian underwear. Guess I’ll have to buy a new hat.
Show of hands by those wiling to take on this slump-buster of a broadcast, so the rest of us don’t have to…
Thanks for that. I wondered why Barry voted nay but was too lazy to look. Some of my best friends are has worn very thin by now.
If the gay community were to pledge 30,000 enlistees, I wonder if Obama would repeal DADT…
Eli !
How is everyone tonight ?
Petro!
Broadband’s been a little shaky lately, but otherwise I’m good.
{{{ Egregious }}}
Gay Marriage and Mary Janes grow in popularity … the Dems must be in charge … *g*
Hats for All, Underwear for NONE! That’s the REAL Gay Marriage Platform!
Clutch your BVDs kids; I’m coming for em!
Rhetorical Q.
Is there an Overton Window for Mary Janes?
Nope! A buncha us queens were having this GINORMOUS party and the Dems just got in front of the line.
Same as it ever was!
Purple hats.
Yes … but Brownies, not Pies, on the Ledge though …
Eli, what is?
I’m from NJ and was very disappointed the NJ Supreme Court didn’t find the refusal to issue marriage certificates to gay couples unconstitutional. The court did hold that gay couples, although they can’t marry, are entitled top every right and privilege as straight, married couples and can have civil unions. It’s not really a huge step for the NJ legislature. it needs to finish what the NJ Supreme Court lacked the balls to do – use the M word. One thing though.. on the other hand, some might argue “they have all the same rights as straight couples so what difference does a piece of paper make?” We’ll see. But the door is wide open for the NJ legislature, they just have to take a step through it. Also, I don’t think NJ people are generally rabidly anti-gay. So it really shouldn’t be that tough of a vote for most legislators. everybody knew McGrevey was gay and he just missed winning the first time he ran (against the incumbent) and won the second.
Step 3: Profit!
Petro! Meet me in DC!
Geez, yes, even straight young females don’t wear maryjanes anymore.
Damn! You ate the set up I made for myself! :]
However now it is YOU that has to sing the Underpants Gnome Song! Hah!
Rachel is replaying a W speech, and not for me, it was much more inspiring than O’s speech.
Silly me, I thought they were talking about wacky-tobacky.
Well, the last I had heard about this the lege wasn’t going to vote at all. So at least now there’s a *possibility* that it could get passed.
Another potential side benefit of more & more states legalizing gay marriage is that not only does it not destroy “traditional” marriage, but it (hopefully) doesn’t cost too many state lawmakers their seats, which is far more important to their counterparts in other states who might be on the fence.
(Or at the very least, that they demonstrably lose their seats for other reasons, like a cratering jobs market)
Foxnews would censor the rapture. They’d call it an ACORN conspiracy.
That’s what I was talking ’bout !
Can’t slip any underpants by me. Or any South Park references from, say, the first 5 or 6 seasons…
quinnipiac poll had NJ 49-46 against gay marriage, eagleton poll had 46-42 in favor
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/11/nj_poll_shows_opposition_to_ga.html
New Jersey is a very special case, because its Supreme Court told the legislature they had to give all the benefits of marriage but didn’t care what they called it. So the legislature tried to do so, under the rubric of “civil unions.” Which, we’re often told, are all but marriage. In the case of New Jersey, their civil unions were designed to be marriage in all but name.
But in the several years since their introduction, civil unions have been used by companies to deny benefits they otherwise give to married employees, on these grounds: “Well, if the legislature wanted us to treat you just like married people, they would have called your relationship marriage, wouldn’t they?” Hospitals have used the same logic to keep partners from the others’ bedside, too: “If you’re married (which you can’t be in New Jersey) where’s your marriage license? Oh, right, you don’t have one — you’re ‘civil unioned’ which isn’t the same. Wait out here, please.”
The ‘civil union’ experiment has failed in New Jersey. It’s been an absolutely perfect, court-ordered laboratory for civil unions, and the commission set up by the legislature to study its implementation has deemed it an utter failure: no one understands civil unions, they can’t be held up as marriages, and most people see them as something quite different, leading to very different outcomes for those in them than for married couples.
The New Jersey legislature needs to follow through on its promise. Governor Corzine needs to sign the bill. The experiment has failed.
Well not like any of their nekkid keisters would go flyin’ up to Hebbin. Those poor Fox News anchors would get left behind.
Has a bit of a “separate but equal” ring to it. Equal in every way except the ones that actually matter.
Right. Sen. Menendez signed that letter. It sounds like this has some traction now. Especially with the new
pantloadgovernor comming in who’s taken this stance:“I oppose it and I think it’s the wrong thing to do. Beyond that, I don’t have a vote in the matter,” [Christie] said.
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/12/200_nj_dems_press_for_vote_on.html
Except, of course, that the Bishops got involved since New Jersey’s election, collecting 150,000 names on petitions asking legislators not to change current law. New Jersey is 40% Catholic; 150,000 represents 4% of New Jersey Catholics. But the legislators are quaking anyway.
Yeah. I agree. If I recall correctly, the NJ Supreme Court gave as an example of the equal rights that had to be ensured hospital/illness decision making/visitation. So you’re absolutely right. Nothing less than marriage will do. Even if not for the things you cite, consigning some to “civil unions” while allowing others to marry is just wrong.
The sanctity of “conventional marriage” must be protected because nearly 30 percent of hetero married people stay faithful to their spouse.
Isn’t there a Constitutional Amendment that makes discrimination mandatory? No? Must have been an oversight.
I’ve been looking for a scapegoat all my life. Can it please be heterosexual rich white males?
Well yeah, because every signature on a petition circulated by conservatives represents a billion people.
That certainly does explain a lot…
Right! Back in Amendment 2 days, here at ground zero, I started with that meme of “Save Marriage; Outlaw Divorce!”
It was fun watching winger heads explode.
Sounds a bit like a snipe hunt.
LOL … Excellent !
Could be.
That was based on some poll/study conducted in the early ’90s which claimed on average 70 percent of married people cheat on their spouse at some point. I greet all such claims with a good deal of skepticism. Having said that, I’ve known a LOT of adulterers and fornicators in my time.
Anyway, I gather the figure only applied to those who stayed married since it can be assumed divorced people don’t stay faithful.
Why do people who are different than what everyone else believe in have to be persecuted? Let us use the words.
Homosexuals. Lesbians. They are our equals
Sorry for my rant.
truth. not a rant at all.
Is there an easier way to sustain an unwarranted sense of superiority?
maybe be back later. gotta watch TDS rerun & Rachel re-run
persecuting those who are different is the first principle of rethuglicanism. Their party is where bullies wind up when they grow up.
All men do, and many women do.
Rant on!
Except for if’n you’d just say “gay” and lesbian, etc. Homosexual is SOOO clinical sounding, and we’re a lot more fun group than at a clinic.
You need to come to one of my parties! The music and food is simply DIVINE!
Change party affiliation.
gnite all.
Lighten up girl!
I didn’t cheat on all my husbands. Just the ones that wouldn’t agree to my conditions. Sheesh.
Now, now… not ALL men. Some are too lazy.
g’nite eCAHN
It’s not so bad if you change the second syllable to “er” and spell the last part “sekshul.”
I had enough trouble finding *one* girl who likes me…
I always found the second I was in a committed relationship opportunities became apparent. Unattached, I couldn’t give it away.
Now universally reviled, which simplifies things.
Nope, nothing changed at all. Or else I’ve just always been staggeringly oblivious, which is what my girlfriend tells me.
Damn, try to zing on eCAHN and she’s out!
Beware! I’m looking for new targets [looking around...]
Safer that way. Here’s a tip, if your girlfriend every chases you down the street waving a golf club watch out for fire hydrants.
I think she’s more the sneak-up-on-you-in-your-sleep type…
Me too, have NO clue what a Mary Jane underwear is . . .
Dang, you BETTER behave.
She was referring to the shoe style.
Hmm, yeah, be tough to squeeze ANY butt into that thing . . . .
I shall now scribble even more heretical words regarding marriage:
I think all marriages should be divided into 2 parts; civil property and spiritual. The State should govern contracts regarding property, and the Church/ParticularHouseOfWorship should be optional for those who believe they need spiritual sealing of their union.
Further, I think that the civil part should be available in non-marriage situations. For instance 2 elderly sisters living together at the end of their lives without any other family should easily be able to pass assets, income, visitation and such among each other easily.
Corporations do it, and they’re persons.
I believe this is how it’s done in Germany, and possibly other parts of Europe. Completely decouples the legal from the ceremonial/spiritual, all rights & privileges are available in civil marriage (not union; marriage), and if you want the church’s imprimatur, that’s between you and the church.
Churches aren’t obligated to sanctify gay marriages, but their acceptance or refusal has zero bearing on the civil marriage’s standing.
I think it’s totally fair and reasonable, and maintains a nice bright line between church and state.
Visitation rights already go to immediate family. You could also grant medical power of attorney or power of attorney over property to anyone you wish. My will is linked to a trust and my designated heirs are trustees, so my property will pass to them without having to go through probate. The pertinent laws might vary from state to state.
Anyway, it might be possible to convey most of the legal rights of marriage to anyone you wish, it’s just so much more complicated. PLUS, your same sex partner likely still gets screwed out of your employers health insurance plan, etc..
Discrimination sucks.
Aloha Ya’ll from the mtn. top…! ;-)
Aloha, CTut!
OT-but I got throbbin veins in my forehead again.
Geebuz, More HCR Shit. Watered Down, Further.
And my blood pressure just spiked.
FUCK!!!!!
Aloha CT! Can you see anything good from up there?
CT Helloooooo.
I just got home from work. Where’s the 8 o clock Late Night?
How’s the mountain tonight?
How’s Paradise? The property. The everything else?
hey stranger.. how is the house coming??
A gorgeous full moon up here…! ;-)
The same gorgeous full moon I’m seeing? Nice to have something we can All Enjoy, yes?
Right – see there’s that whole “kin” default thing which is less and less modern if you get my drift.
I cannot stop my brother from overriding my partner’s visitation and my property wishes without a whole lotta rigamarole. I’m saying there should only be express “rigamarole” between people.
On the bright side, if you like giant corporate welfare packages disguised as health care reform, it will probably be a pretty good ont.
Honey, that’s not the way it works, from my experience, but good dreamin’ on that idea.
*sigh* No where near the progress I’d hoped for… But, still persevering…!
I think power of attorney for healthcare MIGHT bestow the desired visitation rights, even though your partner wouldn’t be able to make decisions on your behalf until/unless you became unable.
You’re so close to it, I’d think it would always be full…
keep plodding my friend, you will persevere. Good to see ya fonts (thanks to Suz)
Um…guys…This is weird, cause I’m home, honeys, and it’s Tuesday. Isn’t it supposed to be Lisa. And, like, Rat, Nahant, CT, it’s Me! What up?
?? I’m not tracking you demi…
And @rf 94, yeah you get some traction with visitation, but it’s still touch and go with your Med Power of Attorney in some states. Here in CO, you really have to have your POA plastered damn near everywhere for it to be meaningful.
Are ya feeling neglected, M’dear…? ;-)
I’ve missed ya…! *g*
I have no clue (surprise!).
Sometimes Late Nite arrives a little later.
Probably true anywhere. It should be entered in the provider’s computer but a good idea to keep a copy handy.
Well, yeah, kinda. I got home. Popped a Blond Bock and …well, no, I’ve never seen late night late. But, then, I’m blond and sometimes I miss something.
Miss you too. Ain’t the same, huh. It moves on. And, all we can do is adjust.
Don’t play clueless with me, boy-o. You’ve got Bob to hold out the compass when you need it.
*headdesk* *repeatsrepeatedly*
Am I that weird?
That’ll leave a mark…! ;-)
Serves me right for climbing into a post with those creepy pictures up top.
Only in a good way.
No! I’m just not totally tracking the thrust of yer comment.
My experience has been that “kin” trumps, and trumps hard in spite of what committed folks have previously set up for directives. It’s not as easy or simple as it seems. Think “Gay Schiavo.”
Thank you. How do you know me so well? Really.
The Senate is like an ambulance and HCR is the patient. They intend to keep driving as long as necessary to ensure the patient is DOA.
I’m your biggest alluvial fan…
Yep – they put on “Freebird” and jez keep driving….
I can now only think of you as “Delta Dawn.”
Would that be the John Ashcroft cover of “Freebird?”
Huh, so is HCR, frankly.
All I said was what is going on? Said I just got home. Not jiggy with the kin thing and the gay thing, at this moment. Wanted to be brought up to speed. It’s okay, though. I’m fading.
Only if your eagle is sore.
Ain’t that the truth…! If the Repugs wanna filibuster… MAKE’EM…! Roll in the cots…!
Well played.
Whatcha drinking, I’m buying for that quality of wordsmithing.
What’s that… flour I have on? Prolly should wear an apron or sumthin’.
UNFADE!
Get ye another blonde bock and get wild! :)
Arlo comes in at 18:36, more n even Innagoddadivada.
Did you know there were 18:36 minutes missing from the Nixon tapes?
Arlo told me.
Thanks, Diet Pepsi, please. Joan Crawford needs the bread.
You only love me for my soul.
What else would a person ask or want for?
Kiss that boy’ beak for me, will you?
I think a book and bath is/are calling.
Later, hon(s).
LOL!
Slides it on down . . . . lemon twist on side, with lime wedge.
Sweet dreams, demi.
When I put Bob in his cage for the night he repeats, “Have a kiss?” until I come over and let him kiss me on the nose. How’d you know?
Hopefully, we’ll find out the gist of the gap when they forensically analyze Halderman’s legal pad…! ;-)
Aloha, demi…!
That seems like such an incredible long shot. No harm in trying, I suppose.
Hey Larue – help a guy out.
I am feeding 9 folks several times (Brek, Lunch & Din) over the Thursday through Saturday. I have it all figured out except for one dinner.
I need it to be easy. Can’t be too “spicy” as old folks are involved. Ideas, please….
It’s inviting. It’s attractive. It’s….something for another time.
Thanks, Kelly. Really. Don’t forget, I live in LA. Practically 20 minutes from Hollywood. Oh, the stories. You wouldn’t believe. But, now is now. It’s not then. Ahhhhhh. Great memories.
Just ’cause. Some soul thing going on….
Smootch to you both.
Basil Fawlty recommends a trough of baked beans garnished with a couple of dead dogs. As an animal lover I’d skip the garnish.
Smooches back at you.
Nitey nite, you dude.
Um, narrow it down.
1) How many courses? Appetizer? Soup? Salad? Entree? Veggie? Starch?
2) Chicken, fish, meat?
3) What methods of cooking are available?
I’ll see ya all in about an hour(if ya’ll are still up)… Time to suit up and head outside into the cold…!
Kelly,
For 9 folk — One large roasting pan filled with chopped onions and herbs. Sit three trussed chicken fryers stuffed with lemons and salt and pepper. Roast 375 until temp reached internal is 165 — (about 1 hour 15 minutes.). Rest.
Serve with salad and red potatoes baked in halves on a baking sheet (olive oil and salt and pepper). Could do steamed broccoli, too.
Is this for real?
As a hospital tech, I found that to be true. Family wishes trumped patients’ own living wills, which made many of us swear we were gonna get DNR tattooed on our left tits.
Damn I loved that show! The busboy alone busted me up time after time.
THIS Remains One Of MY All Time Favs.
Can’t argue with that.
Edit: Geez, I meant to reply to CE! @139 . . . and then edited. My bad.
All I’d say that’s easier is my linguini with white clam sauce, my cheesy garlic bread and any salad of choice Kelly might want.
Recipe to follow if requested.
Or, NY Steaks for all, with some herb butter, baked tater’s, and salad. That’s as easy as it gets aside from cold Beerio’s.
*G*
hey Lurk did some one step on the InterTubes for the Late Nite??
CE and @ All:
Gotta chix dish down already. 12 thighs, and they’re going in the oven with an au poivre finish/rice. Sorry I didn’t limit by what I was already doing.
I already know the starches and everything else I’m doing in the other routines, so I really just need an entree for 9. I can make the rest work out. I could do chicken again, but it would need to be really different. So options are really fish/pork/beef/lamb.
Shucks,
Being almost vegetarian, I’m not much help here except my all beef Italian meat loaf — interested?
See my #142, lemme know if ya want more info on any of it . .
And dang it, yer having more fun than someone should have!!!
Er, can ya grill outside, lad!!!!! ROFLMAO!!!!
Or, braised brisket with cranberries?
Inspiration! You just did it for me!
I’m already Italian-ing them a bunch. I sent spinach lasagna, salad and breadsticks over (we kids are moving our Old Ones from their house in Grand Junction to assisted living here in Denver) and they get Italian Meatball soup and one of those crazy pressed sammiches on arrival (as they’ll all arive at different times.)
I shall do the Bohunk Pork! (They’re all good commies. They’ll eat dumplings and caraway creamed Kraut.) It’s kinda crazy; cutlets with the kraut and dumplings. Works good in a hotel pan.
You shall pay for your INSOLENCE!
Eli,
Braised brisket with cranberries? Hiya man.
Sure, sounds good to me! Hiya!
I’m actually kind of addicted to vodka sauce these days, wondering if that makes me an alcoholic.
“works in a good hotel pan” — oh Kelly, you have to be a restaurant dude.
Wodka!!!
Actually Eli,
Pasta with vodka sauce is my favorite dish. What is it about the vodka that makes it so wonderful? At any rate, MrCE and I bought two huge bottles of Absolut vodka leaving New Hampshire.
you all are making me very hungry. Mmm, caraway creamed kraut…brisket…
Hiya Margot,
and choucroute garnie … sausages, kraut, potatoes, Riesling wine…
There’s a local brand called Nana’s that uses heirloom tomatoes. I got one jar of it and it was totally amazing, and I haven’t been able to find any since. I’ve been doing a rolling taste comparison of all the brands I can find – amazingly, the supermarket’s upscale house brand seems to be in the lead, followed by Bertolli and then Classico. There was one other brand which was vodka sauce in name only, but I can’t remember who – DelAllo, maybe? It looked more like regular spaghetti sauce, not creamy at all.
Eli,
I’m on the quest too. Trader Joe’s is not bad. But really, just make your own. Tomatoes ( lucky me, my sil cans her garden), vodka, cream, pasta. Salt and pepper. Love.
I just made the mistake of browsing the food section of New York First after ordering an indestructible doorman’s umbrella – I used to live a couple of blocks away from H&H Bagels, and the two-dozen package is tempting but too pricey when you factor in the next-day shipping.
God damn I miss New York.
TJ’s is about a block away from my supermarket, so I might check ‘em out. They probably won’t have Nana’s, but they might have something else.
Making my own is really not an option, I can’t even boil toast.
Worked in kitchens in high school then resorts, my Ski Bum Years, from end of ’88 to ’95. My husbear was a F&B manager at Keystone for years too.
We have the restaurant bug! Love to live, live to serve in our house.
Yer gonna pound out pork cutlets for 9 people and what, bread it? Cuz yer not gonna flour and egg it Dore style. Not for a hotel pan.
And bake it WITH kraut in the same hotel pan?
I won’t even ASK about the creamed part of the kraut, or the dumplings, which are usually boiled.
I’m obviously missin the main process, share it, will ya?
And NONE of that sounds easy.
Boil pasta. Make clam sauce in pot.
Make cheesy butter spread, put on bread, bake till golden brown.
Hey, it’s YOUR easy . . . ;-)
But it’s MY White Clam Sauce recipe . . . rich, and rich, and dreamy rich.
I’m going to Manhattan on Friday. MrCE has a talk at NYPL and we need to see where our kids live, one in Chelsea and the other in Park Slope. We are meeting future in laws. I want to see the American show at the Met.
I’ve seen quite a few but never got hooked on Chef! It took a long time to grow on me but I’ve been completely addicted to Last of the Summer Wine for about the last year. Now in it’s 30th season. It takes over a year for the local PBS station to get through them all running 3-5 per week (10 episodes per season).
I’m holding Absolutely Fabulous in reserve. Haven’t seen it yet but highly recommended I am told. My favorite video rental place has them all, I’ll probably snag them after the students split town for break.
Heading out. Splendid evening to all.
Sis CIA graduate married to French chef. She worked in Paris at La Varenne while living with us way back in 1979.
I’m a hopeless cook that went to Brandywine College for a degree, and then had to leave to move to Cleveland. Shucks, went from hopes to a profession to home cook.
H&H Bagels, 80th & Broadway.
I wonder if the deli on 82nd(?) & Broadway is still there, they had some nice knishes. I don’t think I’ve had a knish in 20 years, I must make that a priority the next time I’m there.
Hope the in-laws are nice. Seems like the anticipation could be potentially stressful.
I heard Gotti Jr. beat the rap again. Unrelated news (I hope). :-)
We met her parents and they are wonderful, such fun and we had a great time in Philadelphia. This dinner will include many other members of the family.
Sigh!
I really need to get some good paprika. Will have to order from your spice store.
Behold, I am InArTicULate!
So what a guy does, is hotel pan some pork chops in the oven. Just S&P.
Meanwhile, a guy creams some sauerkraut. Make it skinny. Throw dumplings on top as it will thicken up.
Pull the dumplings, throw the creamed sauerkraut on top of the pork chops, put the dumplings back on top of the whole mess.
Wrap with foil, and keep warm in the oven. That’s all I’m talking about.
late late nite upstairs
Step 1: Show up at Kelly’s.
Step 2: Puppy-dog eyes.
Step 3: Profit!!!
(Those who can’t, mooch.)
Ah. Simple enough, and sounds good.
So, tell me, what’s the recipe for creaming the kraut?
And are the dumplings already boiled, or raw? And do you cover the creamed kraut with dumplings on top? And is THAT in a separate hotel pan in the oven, or in a braiser on top of stove?
Um, send samples West, please . . *G*
And I NEVER said, or would say, YOU of all people, was inart ic u lated about much of anything.
So that settles THAT that does! ;-)
Dumpling Gnome!
Now all y’all get yer asses upstairs so I may continue to abuse you. :)
xoxo –
Kelly
Alas, not me – Eastern time.
LGBT are so deep in the same sex marriage momentum hole that it is going to take some doing to dig us out.
New Jersey does not have initiative or referendum, so the measure could only be overturned judicially. But that begs the question of passing legislation with which a significant percentage of of the population disagrees. That might make progressives feel good but it can engender a backlash that can make things worse.
Hopefully, there are plans to deal with those eventualities, but given the narcissistic record of the same sex marriage crusade, I doubt that they are prepared for such eventualities.