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PW, you really are the go-to source on the go and the related goings on

Thank you, PW. Bookmarked hondurascoup2009.

The USA with people like the despicable Lanny Davis is earning contempt from the without missing a beat since W left office.

Obama should be ashamed of himself… oh well … his hands are tied.

How pathetic. Each day he has more and more blood on his hands. Obviously people in the beltway are sadistic insensitive SOBs.

Good to hear the latest news, though the news isn’t so good.
This is just another instance where Obama’s refrain of “meet the new boss, same as the old boss” holds true.

So…what happens when coup goes down in the USA on Obama term? Well nothing. Obama gone Republican fascists are in and American sissy voters/citizens just ignore coup and worry about jrs playdate or what’s for Sunday dinner or more important than that football lineup for weekend.
Remember…Kennedy killed, elections stolen etc.

Hugo Chavez asked Obama if he was a prisoner once…referencing the authoritarian militarists that had so decimated Central and South America with CIA assistance.

It seems he is.

Who runs America runs Honduras. Representative democracy has become a joke.

At Thanksgiving we talked over dinner about the need to get rid of money in politics. We also need to get the Pentagon out….gee, is there a connection between their trillion dollar budget and the implosion of representative democracy?

The coup that took place in Latin America shortly after war criminals Cheney/Bush took office was thwarted and the rightfully elected leader returned to power.

The coup that took place in Latin America shortly after “hope/change agent” Obama took office was successful and the political assassinations and disappearances are beginning in earnest.

Why do those two sentences, together, give me goosebumps and literally make me feel like I’m going to puke?

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Why isn’t Obama doing some recess appointments on some important posts?
Dawn Johnsen comes to mind, among others.

Aint it funny how WashingtonDC overlooks this conduct in Honduras which as PW relates above is coming from the wealthy few against the many poor? We know how WashingtonDC would go after Chavez in Venezuela on similar conduct of political killing(s) or strong man political activity. Or how WashingtonDC props up thug governments in Iraq and Afghanistan. It is way past time for WashingtonDC to pull back everywhere and get out of the way of what is right or doing what is right.

SoS Clinton put both feet in mouth over Israeli/Arab Palestine Confict well and good only a few weeks back.

Little sign of SoS Clinton or her boss doing the right thing in Honduras as PW relates above.

President Obama ought to be taking some real political heat for his inability once again to figure out what is the right thing to do as opposed to the expedient thing. A pattern emerging here more and more.

More and more WashingtonDC becomes discredited as a force for good or what is moral and ethical. It truly is time to clean WashingtonDC out and get some better thinking and acting people running the place. Doubtful either of the two national American political parties will be the place where this cleaning out will or can ever come out of.

We know how both American political parties would react to being swept out of power on corruption,bribery and law breaking. See last summer St.Paul GOP convention for a sample of likely outcome.

We are there. Do not doubt it.

More than just an ideological stranglehold, the corporate overlords are intent on keeping a base for the business machinations wherever they can get power over the government, and Latin America has seen all too many of these operations.
See; Making governments an offer they can’t refuse; http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/16449

This is so sad: jim demented is running his own foreign policy for the US and obama is “powerless” to stop it. I didn’t expect much of obama given his record on crucial important votes in the Senate, but I didn’t expect a coward unable to lead in any important crisis.

Because Democrats are polite and well-mannered, not like those mean-spirited Republicans who fight hard and play dirty to get what they want. Democrats Play Well With Others and get gold stars for etiquette. They have been bred by the corporate oligarchy for conciliation, just as the Republicans have been bred for combat (political combat, of course, not the messy military sort where people shoot live ammunition at you. That’s for poor minorities and poor whites.)

Seems as though Honduras and the good ole USofA have lots in common.
Governmental control by just a few wealthy, powerful people.

Democracy, my fat ass.

BTW, this is slightly OT, but somewhat fits because of the topic of coup. I wonder if that couple that got into the WH dinner w/o an invite were a scouting party to see how interested the SS is in protecting obama. We have had people carry loaded weapons to venues where he was speaking and they were not arrested or detained. So they proved that they could get that close to obama. Now the couple got to shake his hand. Since so many of the US leadership were there, who would have really been in charge if they were all killed at once?

Increasingly, the differences between Obama and Bush seem more stylistic than substantive. Bush would have chortled, thumped his chest and all but said, “Yeah, I did it. What’s it to you?” Obama’s Secretary of State and others say, “Ummn, this is wrong. Bad form. We won’t do anything about it because we probably had a hand in it but — hey! look over there! Health care!”

Right after the coup, some talking head pointed out that they wouldn’t have tried it without a U.S. go-ahead, given the involvement of the U.S. in Honduras.

Another reason Obama doesn’t want to prosecute the criminals he replaced for war crimes because to do so would leave himself open to indictment, legal indictment I mean, different from the indictment he’s already under in the eyes of many people.

Goldstein’s book Lessons in Disaster is a pretty good basis for seeing this administration for what it is, a bunch of smart people who are obviously too smart for their, and our, own good.

A caretaker administration, selected to eviscerate Social Security, and to keep the politics of perpetual war going to prevent the economy from completely tanking.

2012 is going to be a bloodbath for Democrats.

Yes obama sure can be counted not to make waves. Keep that corrupt, ineffeicent, doomed american economic/millitary empire toppling down. Dont get in the way of wall street proffiteers grabbing all they can on the way out. Thats change you can deposit in your swiss bank account. (As long as your not on the naughty audit list)

CR announced today that they would resume relations and that they would recognize the new govt. The man lost, he is old news. He is going to remain in hiding in the Brazil embassy for how long? The US has stated that we will also recognize the election. Its over. Their Supreme court is the one who had him arrested. The stated reason for the coup was his attempt to force a change in the constitution to allow him to be reelected, just like his friend Chavez. But it does not matter anymore. The election is being held, the neighboring countries will start trading again and whats his name will be forgotten. You all forget that the coup leaders could have just killed Zelaya instead of kicking him out. You say that Zelaya was kicked out because he wanted to raise the minimum wage, they say it is because he tried to hijack the constitution,( like Hugo C did) which he seems to have freely admitted at the time.

I noticed you have failed to point out that Zelaya wished to change the constitution in order to allow for him to seek re election for Presidency (a la Chavez)although the nations constitution forbids it and had taken steps to do so without the consent of the also legitimately elected Congress who objected to the changes and allowing Zelaya to extend his presidency beyond the constitutional limits of which he swore to uphold(…the constitution of nation of which he was President). Zelaya was taking the steps at the behest of President Chavez of Venezuela and Ortega of Nicaragua, along with Morales of Bolivia and lest we forget Raul Castro of Cuba. Might I point out that none of this chorus of supporters value the rule of law particularly. Lets not let our progressive ideology over step and over reach what is the internal affairs of a country who has over the past few years made good steps toward some semblance of democracy. Zelaya gave the military what the relished…a reason for a coup by being not a great deal better than they. Lula of course is making some noise but generally because he wants Brasil to step into the breach of US influence that the Bush White House left in Latin America from 2001 onward,beyond the OAS chairman and political correctness of US driven face saving steps, not a great deal of support from legitimate countries in Latin America like Mexico for instance have raced to Zelayas defense. At the end of the day replacing one despot for another and another is no solution but sympathy for Zelaya is certainly misplaced. As for Brasils embassy being “under siege” ..one would think that histrionics would not be helpful in the situation and fact preferred. Additionally I think you will also find that Zelaya is not supported by the majority of Hondurans even though he raised the minimum wage for the entire nation. I am no rightist but the writer is not entirely accurate in the portrayal of the situation in Honduras and to refer to another nations election process simply because it will likely not end up as you wish is sophomoric at best.

Progressives in congress should vociferously demand of Obama to attend to the theft of freedom in Honduras before any thoughts of escalation in Afghanistan are even entertained. Keep those purse strings tightly drawn!

It was over before it began. Zelaya tried to pull a fast one because he had delusions of Chavez…The difference is the Honduran military wanted the power back and Chavez is a product of the Venezualan military. Zelaya is and was a foolish, ego driven and delusional. CR figured that out during his stay in San Jose.

you are kidding? The US need congress needs to focus on the nasty mess this country is in …

larryv/timr

“I am no rightist but ….” – of course you’re not.

It’s interesting that virtually no one brought up the Logan Act when DeMint decided to go conduct his own foreign policy and undermine an exclusively Executive prerogative. We should all realize that ideology still very much matters. One need not look further back than the 80′s to see the WSJ editorial page cheering the right-wing governments despite the abuses of their American trained death squads (including the rape and murder of four Maryknoll nuns and the murders of six Jesuit priests along with their housekeeper and her daughter). I guess they have learned to sanitize their coups a little more for American consumption, but it’s the same dirty business.

timr, you need to show a link for the “freely admitted” part of your post. I will state without a link (I’ll look one up later) that Zelaya was calling for a “show of hands” by voting of people who wanted to convene a constitutional convention. Zelaya would not have been affected in not being able to run again for president. Who do you think makes up the membership of the Honduras Supreme Court? It is certainly not the peons. This was just another act in the ongoing play of US corporate domination of CA. The refusal of Venezuela, Bolivia, and Brasil to play our gameis what makes their leaders anathema to our leaders.

Part of the problem also has to do with our hegemonic military presence around the world. Aside from the CIA and Battalion 316, we operate with the Honduran Air Force, Soto Cano Air Base. Our base has been used against Nicauagua in the past and you can bet the generals and our statesmen meet there with Michelleti to talk about control, Christ, and commies (and CocaCola.)