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	<title>Comments on: FDL Movie Night: The Trial and Triumph of the King of Pop</title>
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		<title>By: Pearljr</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/11/16/fdl-movie-night-the-trial-and-triumph-of-the-king-of-pop/#comment-2016987</link>
		<dc:creator>Pearljr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry the person that I knew at the trial and talked to was Mike Tiabbi, not Matt Tiabbi.  

I mentioned him smoking because that made a big impression on me.  I tried to bond with whoever I could to get them to listen to reason, sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn&#039;t.  Sometimes it was permanent, but mostly it was just for a moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry the person that I knew at the trial and talked to was Mike Tiabbi, not Matt Tiabbi.  </p>
<p>I mentioned him smoking because that made a big impression on me.  I tried to bond with whoever I could to get them to listen to reason, sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn&#8217;t.  Sometimes it was permanent, but mostly it was just for a moment.</p>
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		<title>By: georgewalton</title>
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		<dc:creator>georgewalton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember that scene from Reversal of Fortune where a disembodied Glenn Close is pointing to the trial of Claus von Bulow below. What is the truth she ask? What really happened? In the world of mere mortals the heated opinions are all over the map. Only in a world with God can we be guarenteed that in the end the truth will out.

That&#039;s why I wish I could be a believer again. Well, that and immortality of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember that scene from Reversal of Fortune where a disembodied Glenn Close is pointing to the trial of Claus von Bulow below. What is the truth she ask? What really happened? In the world of mere mortals the heated opinions are all over the map. Only in a world with God can we be guarenteed that in the end the truth will out.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I wish I could be a believer again. Well, that and immortality of course.</p>
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		<title>By: emerson</title>
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		<dc:creator>emerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s hard to know the truth about celebrities in these times. I tend to believe the ones closest to him on a professional as well as personal basis. The studio musicians that worked with him most, contemptuously dismissed even the possibility of these charges.

I think this was a tremendously mistreated kid who never overcame his childhood and tried to re-write it. I think there are lots of these people walking this earth who had to endure such nightmares. Some of them were driven to excel in other areas, but few could harness their talent and present it so freshly and with such originality as MJ.

Personally, I don&#039;t believe whatever it is that causes humans to molest innocent children resided in him. The lesson is in what we&#039;ve allowed our society to sink to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s hard to know the truth about celebrities in these times. I tend to believe the ones closest to him on a professional as well as personal basis. The studio musicians that worked with him most, contemptuously dismissed even the possibility of these charges.</p>
<p>I think this was a tremendously mistreated kid who never overcame his childhood and tried to re-write it. I think there are lots of these people walking this earth who had to endure such nightmares. Some of them were driven to excel in other areas, but few could harness their talent and present it so freshly and with such originality as MJ.</p>
<p>Personally, I don&#8217;t believe whatever it is that causes humans to molest innocent children resided in him. The lesson is in what we&#8217;ve allowed our society to sink to.</p>
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		<title>By: Larue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s well glossed over Pearl.

But thanks for all time spent at Lisa&#039;s Post, and all the info you share.

I remain somewhat confused if not horrified about the thrill of the masses with MJ.

If I had time to spend I&#039;d try to research Marylin Monroe, Frank Sinatra, Beatles and a few others to see if MJ&#039;s plight in life garnered what&#039;s ongoing in the MSM and the masses.

I&#039;d bet, I&#039;d find that the MSM ginned up the messaging, in a VIRULENT way, to sell ad dollars.

And that the conclusion would be, MJ had his time in the sun. Deservedly so.

But was clung to by moneyed interests to sell ad time.

He was media created, and media destroyed. 

(never mind his family, parents and others who used him all his life to make a buck)

And such is life in Show Biz. Like Warhol said, it&#039;s fleeting, and should be. 

But sometimes, there&#039;s just too much money to be made on a figure.

Alive, or dead. 

Everyone wants a piece of the money, the action, the fame.

Everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s well glossed over Pearl.</p>
<p>But thanks for all time spent at Lisa&#8217;s Post, and all the info you share.</p>
<p>I remain somewhat confused if not horrified about the thrill of the masses with MJ.</p>
<p>If I had time to spend I&#8217;d try to research Marylin Monroe, Frank Sinatra, Beatles and a few others to see if MJ&#8217;s plight in life garnered what&#8217;s ongoing in the MSM and the masses.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d bet, I&#8217;d find that the MSM ginned up the messaging, in a VIRULENT way, to sell ad dollars.</p>
<p>And that the conclusion would be, MJ had his time in the sun. Deservedly so.</p>
<p>But was clung to by moneyed interests to sell ad time.</p>
<p>He was media created, and media destroyed. </p>
<p>(never mind his family, parents and others who used him all his life to make a buck)</p>
<p>And such is life in Show Biz. Like Warhol said, it&#8217;s fleeting, and should be. </p>
<p>But sometimes, there&#8217;s just too much money to be made on a figure.</p>
<p>Alive, or dead. </p>
<p>Everyone wants a piece of the money, the action, the fame.</p>
<p>Everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Larue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt. Matt, Taibbi.

Not Mike Tiabbi  . . . 

For the record.

What&#039;s cigs and cancer and death got to do with Matt&#039;s postulations on MJ?

Which, I&#039;ve noticed, are not answered in regards to the questions posed by PW?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt. Matt, Taibbi.</p>
<p>Not Mike Tiabbi  . . . </p>
<p>For the record.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s cigs and cancer and death got to do with Matt&#8217;s postulations on MJ?</p>
<p>Which, I&#8217;ve noticed, are not answered in regards to the questions posed by PW?</p>
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		<title>By: Pearljr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pearljr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve known him for 40 years!!!!!  Simple as that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve known him for 40 years!!!!!  Simple as that!</p>
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		<title>By: Larue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Pups, Lisa . . .

MJ had his moment in the sun.

Thriller changed vids, hell, it BIRTHED vids.

Well, after Michael Nesmith, and Rio. *G* 

Thriller changed the studio, the sound of the time, the sales and marketing, and influenced music everywhere.

It went global.

Seems to me The Beatles did that, too.

And Elvis, before them.

And Frank Sinatra, before Elivs.

But enough of MJ, his time is LONG passed, other than a historical referent for the change he once brought.

Thriller was long ago. MJ&#039;s now gone.

Why is he still relevant to current affairs? Other than nostalgia?

His present occupation with MSM, and the public that feeds on the MSM, is way, way, way beyond his actual impact on life.

What is it that causes so many millions, or billions, to continue to obsess with him, in present time, as opposed to looking back wistfully and wondering how it could have all been different? 

His shelf life should have expired a decade ago. 

What keeps him alive? I&#039;m purely clueless about this, I completely don&#039;t understand why huge portions of the general populous of all races, economic and social strata, continue to propagate his &#039;essential being&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Pups, Lisa . . .</p>
<p>MJ had his moment in the sun.</p>
<p>Thriller changed vids, hell, it BIRTHED vids.</p>
<p>Well, after Michael Nesmith, and Rio. *G* </p>
<p>Thriller changed the studio, the sound of the time, the sales and marketing, and influenced music everywhere.</p>
<p>It went global.</p>
<p>Seems to me The Beatles did that, too.</p>
<p>And Elvis, before them.</p>
<p>And Frank Sinatra, before Elivs.</p>
<p>But enough of MJ, his time is LONG passed, other than a historical referent for the change he once brought.</p>
<p>Thriller was long ago. MJ&#8217;s now gone.</p>
<p>Why is he still relevant to current affairs? Other than nostalgia?</p>
<p>His present occupation with MSM, and the public that feeds on the MSM, is way, way, way beyond his actual impact on life.</p>
<p>What is it that causes so many millions, or billions, to continue to obsess with him, in present time, as opposed to looking back wistfully and wondering how it could have all been different? </p>
<p>His shelf life should have expired a decade ago. </p>
<p>What keeps him alive? I&#8217;m purely clueless about this, I completely don&#8217;t understand why huge portions of the general populous of all races, economic and social strata, continue to propagate his &#8216;essential being&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Pearljr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pearljr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for having me!  Check out my website:

www.MichaelJacksonInsider.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for having me!  Check out my website:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.MichaelJacksonInsider.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.MichaelJacksonInsider.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Pearljr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pearljr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MJ as always skinny.  He was strong though and tough in his perserverance.  MJ once said that when he tours he goes through hell.  He could have been talking about the sleep med required for sleep.

For years after the trial, MJ traveled the world, no how did he get propofol in Bahrain, Ireland, UK, Las Vegas, New York, California?????  That means to me that he was not always using it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MJ as always skinny.  He was strong though and tough in his perserverance.  MJ once said that when he tours he goes through hell.  He could have been talking about the sleep med required for sleep.</p>
<p>For years after the trial, MJ traveled the world, no how did he get propofol in Bahrain, Ireland, UK, Las Vegas, New York, California?????  That means to me that he was not always using it!</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Derrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa Derrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Pearl for giving us some insight into Jackson&#039;s trial and how grifters and the media helped destroy him. And we look forward ot your book n his death!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Pearl for giving us some insight into Jackson&#8217;s trial and how grifters and the media helped destroy him. And we look forward ot your book n his death!</p>
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