If we are serious about stopping violence, we ought to have the cops profile Christians.

Now, now. Pat only *advocated* assassinating Hugo Chavez. He didn’t actually do it. So he’s still totally a man of peace and love.

I thought my memory was working correctly. Robertson has made these types of statements before

As far back as a couple of years ago even

Yeah, I don’t think Pat should be lecturing anyone on the dangers of mixing politics and religion.

Yeah, for him to be complaining about Islam, when he’s made it really clear that he’s in favor of his flavor of Xtianity being the only legal religion in the country (or the world, if he had his way) is more than a little out of touch with reality.

Yeah, I think this is an ongoing thing with him. If there hadn’t been a video clip, I was going to post a photo of a black pot.

Robertson is a vile human being. He is more dangerous to our democracy than a thousand terrorists.

Wow, three “Yeah” comments in a row…

If we don’t let the ReligiousRight FundyWhackjobs Profiteering JeebusFreaks define our enemies, then the TeleTubbies would be gay-sexing chi’ren right now.

Oops. Looks like both of those links are talking about the same incident from a couple of years ago.

But this is not new for America’s Talibangelical leader

Pat Robertson – Beardless Taliban In A Suit.

Feh.

Pat hears voices that he thinks come from God. In reality it is just indigestion that he is hearing.

Just in case you are not aware of this:

In his 1986 presidential campaign, Robertson claimed that he was a “combat Marine” who had served in combat during the Korean War. This claim was a lie, typical of others told by Robertson. However, this was one lie that he could not get away with — there were Marines who knew Robertson and who knew the truth.

Women should not be educated or you get Feminazis.
Private Religious Shira Charter Schools Schools should be mandatory! No money for public schools in the Stimulus! No Money for Birth Control in the Healthcare bill! No abortion!
This is a religious country founded by Christians Muslims we should live like it under Sharia Bible law.
Global Warming is a myth spread by liberal Jews/Zionists designed to hurt our Saudi Friends after all where would Bush and the Taliban be without Ossama and his Saudi friends money.
Its so hard to tell the Taliban position on issues from the GOP’s they are so alike.:)

Nice catch:)

I’m always somewhat dumfounded at people who lie about things like being a combat veteran when it really is so easily refuted.

In the midst of spouting the suddenly-universal right-wing talking point about how the Fort Hood shooter was protected by “political correctness,

Interesting I thought Darth was spying on Muslim phone calls and internet is the GOP saying Darth was Politically Correct?

It is a sign of mental retardation to once again be “right wing” versus “left wing”.

in the last election, the voters (remember them) elected the first black President, evah.

Did the Kennedys and Martin Luther King die for this ridiculousness?

The voters want an historic change.

Deliver it.

In Iraq and Afghanistan in the past 8 years the ratio of Muslim casualties to Christian casualties is running what, about 500 to 1? Good thing we got God on our side. That’s some mighty nice prayin’ there, Pat…

Pat is just trying to steer attention away from Caribou Barbie …

Eli !

I am sure God has forgiven him for that “little” lie.

It is OK for the american taliban to make up shit.

How surprised I am to discover that the oh so religious Robertson loves African Diamonds and Gold. He loves the racing horses, and he wants to assassinate Hugo Chavez. Robertson should be working for Goldman Sachs. He did use religious donations to finance his African deals with Dictators.

Little known, except perhaps to trivia junkies is the fact the Robertson has had financial stakes in both gold and diamond mines in Africa and has invested $520,000 in a racehorse named Mr. Pat. [8] [9]. “Reporter Bill Sizemore of The Virginian Pilot later discovered that Operation Blessing’s planes were transporting diamond-mining equipment for the African Development Corporation, a Robertson-owned venture initiated with the cooperation of Zaire’s then-dictator Mobutu Sese Seko. After a lengthy investigation, Virginia’s Office of Consumer Affairs determined that Robertson ‘willfully induced contributions from the public through the use of misleading statements and other implications.’ Yet when the office called for legal action against Robertson in 1999, Virginia Attorney General Mark Earley, a Republican, intervened with his own report, agreeing that Robertson had made deceptive appeals but overruling the recommendation for his prosecution. Two years earlier, while Virginia’s investigation was gathering steam, Robertson donated $35,000 to Earley’s campaign–Earley’s largest contribution.”.

“In April 2002, Robertson acknowledged owning a race horse, named “Mr. Pat.” He told a New York Times reporter that his interest in the horse was based purely on its aesthetics. “I don’t bet and I don’t gamble. I just enjoy watching horses running and performing.” Harder to explain was why he spent $520,000 on the horse and intended the beast to compete at the track. But the resulting furor over Pat’s direct participation in a gambling racket eventually caused him to sell the horse a month after the Times story broke”

Oh, and the fact that he’s a xenophobic ignoramus doesn’t exactly help either.

OH yes it does… It explains everything about this sect of Christianity that twists what Jesus taught his follower about loving thy Neighbor. Pat has turned that lesson into hate thy neighbor and be afraid that he will kill you and your family.
I can’t tolerate such assholes.

Pat please keep talking the more you talk the more you scare Moderate Voters our way.

Who was Pat combating? Let’s see, could it be… SATAN?

SHHH! Do NOT encourage him!

Even with your all powerful snark, dumb-ass ain’t gonna see it that way. :)

If God wanted the Ay-Rabs to live, he wouldn’t have put them on top of America’s Oil …

Petro!

Don’t worry, Pat is still waiting for his assistant to print out a large-print hard copy of the internet.

Dood … I’ll be glad when all these Nuts are stored away for Winter !

The newly minted officers aboard the U.S.S. Breckinridge didn’t know whether to take the affable young marine seriously or not. It was January 1951, and they were on their way to the fighting in Korea. In the ship’s wardroom, 20-year-old Marion G. “Pat” Robertson, a second lieutenant straight out of officer’s training at Quantico, Va., was telling them that his father, A. Willis Robertson, was a U.S. Senator from Virginia and that he was going to have Pat reassigned. Sure enough, when the First Marine Division docked in Kobe, Japan, Robertson, his college buddy Edwin Gaines and four other young officers were taken off the ship and detailed to Otsu—ostensibly to train soldiers coming off the front lines.

Such, at least, is the recollection of Paul “Pete” McCloskey, a former seven-term Republican Congressman from Northern California who was one of the young marines on the Breckinridge. “The most distinct memory I have of all this,” says McCloskey, 60, “is Pat standing on the dock at Kobe with this big grin on his face, saying, ‘So long, you guys—good luck.’ ” That memory was vividly revived years later when Robertson, by then a well-known TV evangelist, began making public reference to being a combat veteran. Says McCloskey, a decorated Marine officer who was wounded in action in Korea, “I don’t condemn Robertson for what he did 37 years ago, but I sure as hell don’t like him lying about it now.”

Bob Dylan’s 115th Dream

Well, the last I heard of Ay-Rab
He was stuck on a whale
That was married to the deputy
Sheriff of the jail

Why do I have this sudden sense of deja vu…

Although at least Dubya never claimed to be a combat pilot…

Plastic Christian Pat Robertson is simply another huckster using religion to defund gullible listeners. It’s been going on since snake oil salesmen entered towns to rip-off the ignorant masses. Robertson essentially rejects about all Jesus actually stood for. The GOP & its evangelical enablers readily reject “You are your brother’s keeper” as evil socialism.

Pat is involved with Blood Diamonds?

”Stop Blood Diamonds”is an organization pledged to stopping the exploitation of the diamond trade by human rights abusers.

Blood diamonds, often called conflict diamonds, are mined in war torn African countries by rebels to fund their conflict. The rebels grossly abuse human rights, often murdering and enslaving the local populations to mine the diamonds.

We can stop this by purchasing legitimate diamonds. Botswana used to be a poor farm country but today its government works hand in hand with the Diamond industry to give Botswana a living standard 7 times higher than its neighbors.
Make sure your jeweler stops the blood diamonds trade by supporting conflict free diamonds.

http://www.stopblooddiamonds.org/

The only way Pat can make cash is Blood Diamonds he has no other ideas God isn’t sending him stock tips?

Old Testament Angry God good, Jesus bad.

Pay no attention to the Pharisees behind the curtain…

I want this pampered buttwipe strapped to a chair and forced to listen to PTSD Iraq and Af vets experiences continuously for years.

In a tough-deity competition my god could kick your god’s ass.

The only way Pat can make cash is Blood Diamonds he has no other ideas God isn’t sending him stock tips?

There are a lot of elderly buying their salvation from him

In the afterlife insurance racket Pat favors single-payer.

Well, the Hopi God was here before the Christian God so Pat can STFU.

His dreams of the Presidency have failed an African American got in the WH and he couldn’t that has to hurt.
Pat’s Blood Diamonds, Lying about being a Vet, all the Crazy shit he says lets face it Pat is not respected even in the GOP past his 20%er support.
Pat’s plan to take over the GOP and run only Fundy candidates is bearing fruit now. Thanks to Pat the GOP is pushing away Moderates, thanks to Pat the GOP is experiencing its longest? sustained slump in the polls.

How about like that movie “BRAINSTORM” where Christopher Walken had that device where he could actually experience what other people had been through.

Yeah but pat’s gawd has more F-16s

My goodness, you’re an old fart!

Pat Robertson is also apparently from the Sarah Palin School of Values in that he & wifey were alleged to be quite pregnant at time of marriage…..but, hey, let’s demand abstinence….for everyone else. Hypocrisy is just so stinky.

It wasn’t their fault, they were tempted by a serpent.

We’re about the same age, so I shall resist flaming you!

[Mostly 'cause I think you're a sweetheart - BITCH!]

And he invests that cash in Blood Diamonds thats his best idea? God and the GOP can’t get him connected with some inside stock tip information?
What kind of Friends does Pat have who suggest Blood Diamonds as a way of making money? My crowd normally says buy McDonalds stock Blood Diamonds is like child porn.

He abstains from the truth.

Yeah I was 48 in July. I don’t resent the fact that you’re younger (much).

ROFL !!!

Petro!

I just can’t help meself, you know?

I wonder if Walken relived the part where Robert pushed Natalie off the yacht?

You mean in that film “The Last Of Sheila”? [snark]

OMG … I can’t believe you said that … *g*

And who has military bases all over the world with the blessing of the church?

Tony Perkins wrote that.

You know, I think I have essentially professionally despised Pat Robertson for about 25 years now.

Christopher and I had thought about going to “Southern Decadence” in NOLA the year Katrina hit. We had figured out by May, that we could not actually go in August.

After the hurricane devastated everybody, and Pat was so quick to blame them DAMN HOMERSEKSHULS, I dropped my atheist guard, and went total Full Metal Wiccan on that ass.

By which, I mean, I bought this fabulous Bitch Be Gone candle at my favorite gaymart. It was a take off on those novena candles, where you taped the picture of your foe on it, and lit it.

I can’t remember if Pat joined Falwell in publicly blaming gay folk for 9/11. If not, I’m pretty confident he agreed privately.

I’d say that’s a yes.

But he didn’t write the end credits song “You Got To Have Friends” heh.

I shall be a one man force in making Bette M become resurgent! Quick, what’s her email? I need her gay-fu to counter SO many things, much less the odious Pat Robertson!

Like I said, I’ve damn near professionally despised him forevah.

I tend to think that “700 Club” refers to the collective IQ of the millions of people who donate to that assclown.

By which, I mean, I bought this fabulous Bitch Be Gone candle at my favorite gaymart. It was a take off on those novena candles, where you taped the picture of your foe on it, and lit it.

Did it work Kelly??

NO!

Left Wicca, back to atheism. Loved the candle though!

In fact, just for giggles, I might buy another!

Thanks for the link. Well, at least gays and lesbians didn’t get all the blame. God help you if you are a gay feminist abortionist who belongs to the ACLU and the PFAW.

Falwell: I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way–all of them who have tried to secularize America–I point the finger in their face and say “you helped this happen.”

PAT ROBERTSON: Well, I totally concur-

He never was a Senator either, and it galls him to no end.

In other words, “al Qaeda attacked America because they agree with us.“

And they keep on agreeing…

Maybe you should just send it to that fake follower of Jesus Pat Robertson with instructions that he has to burn it on his night stand while sleeping.

Bingo. Secularists are the root of all evil.

In fairness, Jerry and Pat might have been shameless opportunists using 9/11 to smear everybody they disagree with… but only after several microseconds of soul-searching.

I’m telling you, if Pat sat down and actually *talked* to bin Laden about social policy and not religious dogma, they would get along famously.

Yes they would. It’s beyond frightening, really.

They actually bumped into each other in a bathhouse back in the ’70s. Didn’t talk much, though.

Really, I prolly should send the “true and faithful husband” candle to his wife, and ask her to do what you suggest.

Problema, no mas!

It is to America’s continuing shame that it outlaws political opinion such as communism. That is not how a free society behaves.

I can’t see his attitude as much worse than most progressives and the general “liberal” reaction to the Fort Hood thing though. It’s a war against Islam and if the guy decided to join the resistance then he was a soldier and should have POW status. It is legitimate to resist an armed foreign occupation. To hear progressives describe it the incident was a school shooting.

Bette Midler and Pat Robertson?

I knew Bette had a decent job – was Robertson just tricking through?

Didn’t he die recently? I could swear one of these A-list fundies just kicked it.

DING!

RIGHT FUCKING ON ELI!!

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In the midst of spouting the suddenly-universal right-wing talking point about how the Fort Hood shooter was protected by “political correctness,”

This aternoon I was out driving and surfed across the radio dial. All the usual suspects were howling that Obama was responsible for the Fort Hood tragedy. Their claim was that this wild-eyed socialist President had fostered an environment of political correctness that caused the military to let down its guard against Muslim terorists. It was brutal to listen to.

This ubiquitous attack on Obama seemed coordinated. If so, who is in command?

Hey Busted how goes it up there??

Rush Limbaugh, of course.
He is the leader of the Republican party.

LMAO.
It was probably Rupert The Infailer, he who would take on Google.
He owns half of the media and has stated he will do anything to destroy Obama.

Such nice people.

late nite is upstairs

Still kickin’. How goes it for you dude?

we are doing OK except for some bug the kid brought home last week… My turn …shit..

HUH?? Comments are closed???

try again nahant — i commented just fine

try this link

Sheesh I guess some goofed…

Five weeks man, Five weeks. I’m still fighting the damn thing.
I was in bed all weekend and finally copped a fever Sunday night that left me drenched and kept me up until five in the morning, just so I could get up and go to work.

working on it now… use the link i gave to get to late nite

I sure hope this doesn’t last that long… Food hasn’t tasted very good these days… Even my St Pauli Girls Beers… Shit how ta get a guy down.. when his beer tastes crappy!

His beliefs and lies can create more atheists in a day than the communists ever could in a decade.

Any country that calls them selves a Christian nation that has the following economic, political and military agendas is hypocrisy at its greatest.

Mega profits off the sick and needy.

Pre-existing medical conditions to enhance profits for the few.

Wars for corp. profits decade after decade.

Mega military budget
Mega industrial military complex

Telling young children they may spend eternity in hellfire

Congress ran by corp America

Prisons overflowing; then prisons for profits

One out of seven children on food stamps

One per cent of the population with more wealth than the bottom 95%

Survival of the fittest economic theology called capitalism.

Rampant materialism

Etc.

Christianity died on the cross in America.

Given that Robinson is a total wacko, he’s not entirely wrong about Islam. One of the most important claims in Islam is [em]tawhid[/em] or the unity of god, and the corresponding demand for unity in all areas of human life. That’s why Western democracy is so anathema to some Muslims, because it divides human life and activity into sacred and secular realms, a totally impossible state of affairs (according to those interpreters). As some writers have said, “politics is a sacrament” in Islam, since it’s in the overarching direction of all aspects of human life that religion finds its ultimate goal. So there’s no dividing the secular from the sacred, or religion from politics, art, culture, and economics. The [em]ummah[/em] or sacred community is therefore not merely a “church,” but a totalistic body involving the entirety of its members lives.
The modernization of Islam has had a hard time getting over this stumbling block.

He’s an arrogant xenophobic ignoramus. But Pat gets all of his information straight from God. so he can’t be wrong.

Maybe we could get Fred Phelps and his “church” to picket Pat Robertson. The clash of the dueling asshats would be a spectacle worth several bags of popcorn.

Careful, the “blood diamond” campaign was funded by deBeers to get the UN to protect and fund it’s monopoly on the diamond market. It’s a real nice racket that we all get to pay for. In fact it was DeBeer’s themselves that hired assassins to kill anyone carrying diamonds out of Africa.
Diamonds are not rare.
http://www.edwardjayepstein.com/diamond/prologue.htm

Robertson also supported South American Death Squads. His Wycliff Bible Translation and Evangelical missions were used as CIA fronts during the Ronnie years.
There’s a lot of info on the google, here’s a taste:
http://www.antipasministries.com/html/file0000128.htm

Yeah, that Western Democracy that’s over there bombing the hell out of them, cutting up their continents, drawing borders, and dividing the spoils.. Islam is anathema to that – and they’re having a hard time getting over that. secularism stuff.
That’s a pretty broad brush you are painting with. Do you know about the history of the tribes and the different sects and beliefs of each? To tell you the truth, the bogey men as far as I’m concerned are these evangelical nut jobs and Israeli extremists that influence our foreign policy to the exclusion of the American public. Every single day it’s something new over there. Try paying attention before you smear Islam or the Arabs. They have my sympathy. Notice I didn’t smear American Jews happily living in the galut.

“That’s a pretty broad brush you are painting with. ”

Yes, that was the point. And why I said “some Muslims” and “according to those interpreters.” And before you accuse me of “smearing” Islam, try Googling for Islam+democracy+tawhid, or similar combinations. It’s a matter of debate within Islam to what degree “its” (painting with a broad brush again) political conceptions can be harmonized with democracy (remember, in my initial message I was even more restrained, limiting it to Western democracy. Some Muslims make it a point of pride that their faith is incompatible with democracy (see, for example, Islam, the West, and Politics, or This sermon (“there is no democracy in Islam”). Are these views typical of Islam? Probably only given a certain interpretation of “democracy,” but they are probably one legitimate interpretation of the tawhid concept that continues to influence a considerable number of Muslims to one degree or another. Other Muslims are searching for a legitimate rapproachment with democracy, searching for a way to reinterpret the Islamic experience in a way that allows for democratic government, but it remains a stumbling block, or if you prefer, a matter for serious debate within the community.

This is off point relative to this article but will be useful in the near future.

On Sunday’s Nov. 8th’s “60 Minutes” they ran a piece on cyber terrorism. In it a senior govt. official said that the US suffered a huge cyber terrorist attack in 2007 that managed to hack into the defense dept. and a host of other critical intelligence cyber networks. Here’s the point…

The next time Cheney, his daughter or any other batshit crazy rethuglicon says that Bush and his administration kept us safe from terrorist attacks after 9/11 (but not before of course) kick them in the nuts with this fact and remind them of their convenient little oversight…