“As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.” – Godwin’s Law

On October 20, 2008, Rachel Maddow, on The Rachel Maddow Show, proposed a corollary to Godwin’s law stating that as the amount of time a liberal candidate is believed to be winning an election or argument increases, the probability that they will be labeled a communist or a socialist approaches one.

Jane’s up on democracynow.

What I don’t understand is why are the right wingers calling President Obama a Nazi which would make him their leader? It’s really confusing!

Democracy Now comes on the TV here at 9:00 am mst. I have set it to autotune.

Yeah, I’ve been puzzling over how tax cuts help those without jobs at all but then as I state repeatedly, I might be an idiot.

What channel/network is it on? I’d love to do the same!

I have Direct TV and it is on LINK TV which is channel 375. It is also on Dish TV but not sure of the channel.

Thanks. I have Comcast, but at least that gives me someplace to start.

Did You find Link TV on Comcast?

It’s an old tactic. Using projection of their attitudes and intentions as a sucker punch to disarm critics from attacking them on those exact issues. It reduces clear observation to the media’s obligatory he said-she said framework of false equivalency. It distracts focus from who exactly are the real totalitarians who want to control individual freedom.

Mornin, BT, pups

So what is Jane saying on DN!?

Hey, eCAHN, I hear ya got a new tiger.

And it only took 3 comments before someone called the other side Nazis.

Oh well.

It’s so they can blame him for their actions …

Namaste SD !

G’Morning eCAHN … what a fab weekend, weather wise !

No, not Link, but it looks like Democracy Now might come on in the wee hours on the same channel as CSPAN, but right now all it says for the whole Ch 22 is “TBD”. There are several radio stations around SF Bay area to get it, though.

Dionne’s piece is really nice this morning.

He explains that when level-headed people fight back against the tax-cutters, they win! We don’t need to be shy about the good government can do.

Namaste, Petro

Yeah, it was nice, although Sat wasn’t the best day for women in our country.

what a fab weekend, weather wise !

Sunny and warm?

It was a pathetic display and I will call Pelosi’s office to obtain a promise that it will be removed.

Loo Hoo !

We hit 65-66 both days, with lots of sunshine. For Canuckistan, that is really warm for mid-November.

I’m in Mass. I get Democracy Now at 11:00 AM on LinkTV

Good Morning, I got your note, and the lady is happily on my lap. She waves “hi”. Her only exertion is to follow my hand-mouse with her little paw. How content…B

good morning all.

democracy now is video and audio webstreamed, and podcasted:

http://www.democracynow.org/2009/8/7/stream

here are the list of radio and tv stations to listen or watch it on (many of the radio stations have live webstreams via itunes, i usually listen via the wbai stream, but it was down today):

http://www.democracynow.org/stations

Was in the mid sixties here in Mass as well , will be in the 60′s for the next couple of days!
I want to take the dogs for a walk ,but the hunters are in the woods and I don’t wanna get shot ,plus they scare the hell out of the dogs !

That must have gotten snagged, ’cause I don’t see it.
Good Morning, Pups. Crazy weekend, huh?

Arm the forest dwellers!

LOL

emptywheel is upstairs…

Very sane statement from family of Ft Hood victim….as in don’t use this incident as reason to hate/blanket a group of people….he (Hasan) was a sick man.

Thank God for sense and compassion….

{{{ demi }}}

Are you going to call Pelosi and demand that the Stoopak amendment be removed ?

Wonderful!

Thank Bart Stupak for the exciting weekend

Of course, teh killjoys were out in full force, talking constantly about global warming …

We can also thank weak leadership in the House. Now it’s in the Senate and with Lieberman’s threat the healthcare bill will be compromised even further rendering it meaningless except for bigPharma and the insurance companies.

At the risk of being yelled at here, I think I’m going to wait a minute and see what happens. It was my understanding of the situation that Pelosi never wanted the amendment in the bill and only added it at the last minute to get the passage of the bill, which was what, by one extra vote? I can see it from two perspecitives. I like forward progress, but I also would have been okay if the stinker hadn’t passed. I don’t care for the cumbersome, back scratching, lobbyist driven process altogether.
Nancy is a strong women, and her Catholicism aside, I believe stands for women’s rights. I believe she will do what she can and I don’t think a call from me will make a difference.

Well, that will ensure that there will be at least 64 Dems in the House that will vote for it this time round.

I completely understand and I will be calling her Office to ask if Pelosi will support the final Bill if it contains Stupak’s amendment. I hope that I get a woman on the line, because I’ll also ask her what she thinks of the amendment, as well.

If I were in the House, all other things I don’t like about the bill excluded, the Stupak Amendment was a 100% deal breaker. I’d have cast the first Nay vote so fast it’d make their heads spin. Promises or assurances from any level of the Dem leadership are worthless. Absolutely worthless.

I hope there are enough Dems who are sensible enough to realize that if it stays in, they’re toast in 2010 & 2012.

I was offline all day yesterday, a dead hard drive, so maybe this has been addressed or questioned and I missed it. I would think it would be good to have the names of the dems who insisted on Barf’s amendment being in the bill. Those are the people who deserve a phone call, I think.

Ya know, I don’t think these fuckers are aware of anything outside of that Village bubble.

Kucinich voted Nay.

There are a couple posts from yesterday that have names.

Can you point me in a direction? Do you remember which posts? Thanks.

C’mon, pups. Not one note of condolence on a dead hard drive? It’s not like you can pick up a new one at the 99 cents store. *g*

I just called the office of my congressperson – Kanjorski – and told them that because of his vote on the amendment that I would be working against him and would even vote for a republican over him. He is a major corporatist crook anyway.

These clowns voted for Stupaks ammendment and against HCR
Jason Altmire (PA-4) 202-225-2565
Bobby Bright (AL-2) 202-225-2901
John Barrow (GA-12) 202-225-2823
John Boccieri (OH-16) 202-225-3876
Dan Boren (OK-2) 202-225-2701
Ben Chandler (KY-6) 202-225-4706
Travis Childers (MS-1) 202-225-4306
Artur Davis (AL-7) 202-225-2665
Lincoln Davis (TN-4) 202-225-6831
Bart Gordon (TN-6) 202-225-4231
Parker Griffith (AL-5) 202-225-4801
Tim Holden (PA-17) 202-225-5546
Jim Marshall (GA-8) 202-225-6531
Jim Matheson (UT-2) 202-225-3011
Mike McIntyre (NC-7) 202-225-2731
Charlie Melancon (LA-3) 202-225-4031
Collin Peterson (MN-7) 202-225-2165 Prairie, here’s our guy!
Mike Ross (AR-4) 202-225-3772
Heath Shuler (NC-11) 202-225-6401
Ike Skelton (MO-4) 202-225-2876
John Tanner (TN-8) 202-225-4714
Gene Taylor (MS-4) 202-225-5772
Harry Teague (NM-2) 202-225-2365

When JFK ran for the presidency there were concerns that policies would be dictated by the Vatican. It now appears that the Vatican now indeed has it’s own moles in the House of Representatives.

Off to swim in the great capitalist cesspool.

I’ll leave ya with this tune.

US KIA Irak: 4362

US KIA Afghanistan: 916

US MBS 2009: 38,688

Be good to yourselves, and all other living things.

Oh OK .
That would be a tragedy , wouldn’t it ?

Yes, a big tragedy for Demi and us…Dem…you must do whatever it takes, b/c you cannot be absent, Understand?

((((harddrive)))) *g*

Thanks, again. You had given me the link the other day. Now, I’s going to look up the 1-800 numbers for them. My experience in the past with calling and speaking to staff members has been some what frustrating. They usually can’t even tell me how their person is going to vote, let alone explain to me why some one would vote for the stupid amendment and then not vote for the bill. But, I’ve got some time today and will make some calls.

Thanks, peep-pups. My husband took a hard drive out of an old laptop, copied, loaded saved a bunch of stuff. See how techie I am? This morning my son said wow, he must really love you. I said yes and he probably didn’t want to hear me whine, cry, bitch and moan. He probably figured he was saving his sanity by just getting it done and over with. Ha!
I thanked him profusely. Called him the Miracle Man, A Genius and some other superlatives.

Oh, you. How’d yesterday’s service go, btw?

I found the 800 #’s:
1-800-828-0498

1-800-459-1887

1-800-614-2803

1-866-340-9281

1-866-338-1015

1-866-220-0044

1-877-851-6437

the katymine numbers!

My favorite bit of cognitive dissonance recently was the much-seen photograph of the sign of a decidedly unflattering portrait of Nancy Pelosi surrounded by the words “UNAMERICAN MCCARTHYIST”… didn’t Ann Coulter and Michelle Malkin recently set us straight, that McCarthy was an American hero who has been misjudged by “liberal history”?

So apparently, right-wing pro-tribal bigotry and the Republican double-standard is so omnipervasive that the *kind* of McCarthyist you are determines whether you’re the Good McCarthyist or a Bad McCarthyist.

If you demonize your opponents, and accuse them of wanting to destroy America, you’re a Good McCarthyist.

If you try to provide healthcare for people who aren’t the preferred customers of the health insurance cabal, you’re a Bad McCarthyist.

Pardon me while my head explodes.