William Tyndale once ridiculed the poor logic of a 16th Century blowhard by writing that, “the proof of his whole conclusion…hangeth by moonshine.” Tyndale of course, ultimately became a victim of moonshine when he was condemned as a heretic and strangled by real rope – and burned as well – for translating the Bible into English.
Moonshine, a fine word for unreal or laughable lies, shines on. Our political sphere is positively aglow with it. It is never eclipsed, and its source never sets.
The debate over health care reform, for instance, has been bright with it. Just about every word uttered by the opponents of health care reform has been moonshine. Every word, and everyone knows it. The House managed to shield its eyes from the glare just long enough to pass a health reform bill. And in retrospect, the attacks on reform look all the more ridiculous.
We were told that freedom would be destroyed by our better health. We were told health care reform was communism, or fascism, for socialism, or some other non sequiturism. We were told we’d go broke. Or maybe die. Well, at least if it makes us sick we can afford to see a doctor. Some might prefer another word to moonshine. Bunkum, for instance, derives from a famously irrelevant and interminable 1820 speech in support of the extension of slavery to Missouri. It was delivered to the U.S. House by Felix Walker, the undistinguished representative from Buncombe County, North Carolina. Buncombe became bunkum. Twaddle and tommyrot might also do.
Then, of course, there’s bullshit, an early attestation of which belongs to T.S. Eliot, who wrote a ballade called, “The Triumph of Bullshit.”
Ladies, on whom my attentions have waited
If you consider my merits are small
Etiolated, alembicated,
Orotund, tasteless, fantastical,
Monotonous, crotchety, constipated,
Impotent galamatias
Affected, possibly imitated,
For Christ’s sake stick it up your ass
Rhyming galamatias (or galimatias) with “stick it up your ass,” is poetic genius. Galimatias, by the way, means moonshine.
I’m afraid it’s the media who must face charges for their impotent galamatias. They consider the reporting of moonshine to be their duty. Hey, if someone said it, it’s up to the people to tell moonshine from sunshine.
Tommyrot. It’s the media’s responsibility to call a lie a lie. If you don’t want to call it muckraking, call it moonraking, with apologies to Ian Fleming.
The trouble with the media’s so-called neutrality is not that people no longer believe anything, it’s that they believe everything. Alternative realities bloom like algae. Remember the famous anonymous quote from an official of the Bush White House:
The aide said that guys like me were “in what we call the reality-based community,” which he defined as people who “believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.” … “That’s not the way the world really works anymore,” he continued. “We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors…and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.
The absolute arrogance of such a comment is, well, unreal. But it’s really just a frank statement of an ugly possibility. Since the media has abdicated its responsibilities to truths of the real world, any old moonshine will do.
Humans can’t live on moonshine, however. Millions will die for lack of health care unless health care reform is finally passed and signed into law. There’s another word that history might apply to those who abdicate their responsibility to the truth: infamy.



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Moonshine is right. I tried to watch Meet the Press, but Gregory isn’t giving Rachel time enough to respond, and I turned it off right after her segment. Who will take his spot?
Alas, hundreds of thousands will die for lack of health care if this health care reform is passed into law.
David Gregory was promoted (twice) as a gesture to corporatists and right wingers. He’s also way over his head, having exceeded the peter principle limit about the time he quit covering car wrecks.
Is he being replaced? I hadn’t heard that.
Snake oil salesmen are the only way to go when there is some product that isn’t worth buying, which is the wingnuts’ agenda of tearing down everything that can possibly serve the public. Glenn, thanks. We have a lot of work to do, tearing down the phantasmagoria that is all the right wing has to offer.
{see http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/13037 }
Brilliant post, Glenn; and re Buncombe, i do believe our latest bunkum artist, heath shuler — who voted for the Stupak amendment and agst the ‘health care reform’ bill has buncombe county as part of his district…
angels in asheville nc weep (as do devils there…)
“Hold the bread.” No kiddin’. That’s a good piece, Ruth. Thanks for the link.
The news media used to act as referees, whistling fouls when they spotted them. Now they are the VIPs who get to sit behind the players bench, afraid to point out any flagrant violation lest they not be invited to next weeks game, or worse, be forced to sit in the cheap seats with the peasants.
Wow, I didn’t know that about Shuler and Buncombe Co. What a perfect fit. Thanks for pointing it out.
I think Loo Hoo was engaging in wishful thinking. When Gregory is eventually replaced (likely failing upward), it will be by someone at least as insipid.
Well, even if the thing makes it through the Senate in some form with some public option of some type, the insurance reforms will not happen for at least 4 years, so these mfers have plenty of time to go on killing us and fleecing us all the way. Four years would seem like enough time for them to demonstrate how great the free market could work (right), but they will double down of course.
We need some jobs. I hope Barack can figure out a way to make some of that happen.
A couple more: Balderdash & Folderol.
Isn’t that a Wall Street firm?
I think it is actually an outfit on K St.
I understand it merged with Dewey Cheatham and Howe – and glad you enjoyed the Bread and Circuses post.
We also call that Phantasmagoria, but it’s an awfully elegant term for the wingers’ pastiche of lies. So I’ll stick with Hogwash.
Do we ever.
The govt “analysts” say that job loss is slowing. Almost 200,000 last month, iirc. The only reason job loss is slowing is because there aren’t that many left that can be laid off without businesses closing their doors and that’s next. The bankster bailout only created jobs on Wall Street. The stimulus is touted as having saved x number of jobs. It’s a drop in the bucket.
We have to rebuild our manufacturing base.
I’m gonna stick with horseshit.
AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Glenn W. Smith and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
Thanks for another essay exposing the rediculous. I have always liked “poppycock” as a term to describe the cluster of words that attempts to justify the unjustifiable or simply expose the stupidity of the speaker. The Dutch origin of poppycock is “soft dung” which, to me anyway, best describes the mangled logic of fascist arguments against national healthcare.
Keep the Sunday sermons comin’ Brother Glenn and…
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, THE STRUGGLE GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
One thing that I could not help but notice was the progressives calling for the defeat of the health care bill because of the Stupek amendment. Then saying that the dems who voted for it would face primary challengers. Hmmmm. Now somehow this reminds me of the republician vs conservative bruhaha over NY 23, a solid republician district for over 100 years until the fight between the party and the extremists. Then a dem won. So I am guessing that the extreme dems would much rather lose an election than see someone less than pure have the seat. Wonderful. Yeah, lets all be pure progressives and lose elections rather than have a dem with some different views. Yep. That is just about the quickest way to become the minority party again. Did you enjoy those times? Demanding that all dems toe your line strikes me as the same as the rethugs taking over the republician party. One issue activists, or as I would call you, dem extremists. And you are different from the uber conservatives how exactly?
I know Stupek. He is a Dem in a very red district, gets a heavy hitter rethug going against him every election. He can also count votes very well. Face it, without the Stupek amendment there was zero chance that the health care bill would pass. Yet those who have said that health care was #1, suddenly whipped around and said you must vote against the health care bill because there is that abortion amendment in it. 1 issue voters. Somehow I thought that one could only find those in the rethug party, people whose 1 issue was so important that they would lose an election rather than vote against it. So now you are going to do what? Campaign in the senate against the health care bill? What was until yesterday the most important thing, but isn’t anymore. And if it is still in the bill when it gets to Obama? What are you going to do? Scream for veto? I spent way to many years in DC, watched legislation being made, for this to be any surprise. 1 issue voters, just like the conservative wing of the rethug party. If you don’t get exactly everything you want then you scream about how those who voted against your wishes-even tho they are in the same party-will face an expensive primary fight that in the end, could finish just like NY 23. Think about that why don’t you.
As for droopy, if he does follow thru on his threat then Reid should damn well take his committee away from him. As you say, he is a media whore. Since he was selected as VP with Gore did he have a stroke or some kind of brain problem? Or did getting plucked out of semi-obscurity turn him into the sanctimonious media whore we see on TV every damn day.
Soft dung, indeed. I think the great number of synonyms for moonshine and bullshit tells us just how much of it there is to describe.
Good piece.
We have too much (mis)information today.
It will be worse tomorrow.
The kind I used to shovel wasn’t sticky at all. You oughta cut the amount of molasses in that grain.
Amen.
Citizen timr:
I think that Citizen SouthernDrangon has the best description of your incomprehensible cluster of words that signifies absolutely nuthin’: horshit!
Now do yourself a favor, take a pill and go back under the bridge before you catch your death.
He sits in our conference. If he were in theirs, he wouldn’t have been able to force this vote. Why is someone facing crazies in the UP able to hold a statute ransom over the wishes of mainstream democrats? Why is that good for the party?
A likely candidate would be Chris Wallace, in the spirit of comity – after all, conservative voices are at a premium in the media.
;>)
“piffle” – that’s what they use in the south. It’s just “piffle.” Nice, Glenn. thanks.
I know an 80-something southern lady who uses “piffle.” Sounds right out of a movie of the antebellum south.
“Piffle.” Another fine word for it. Question: if we have more words for piffle than, say, for sex, what does it say about how we’re spending our time?
not really possible, we-wall st and rich CEOs-took manufacturing out of the US and into cheap wage countries so that they could make bigger profits per unit sold. Face it, manufacturing is never coming back. Despite the daily recalls of products made in China, our wealthy have become addicted to getting richer. We are getting to that point where the great american thrist for cheap stuff is going to hit those companies hard where it will hurt them, in the products sold. What happens when the sheeple of the US can no longer afford to buy what those companies who abandoned the US sell? Why are the foreign auto companies building factories in the US? They understand their market, something way too many of our domestic companies have foregotten. We have fewer and fewer workers who can be trained to produce actual things to sell due to our piss poor education system. With its 30% HS drop out rate and having to give college freshmen remedial classes due to piss poor education system. We have become fat and lazy, way too many kids(I am 59) in their 20s have loads of self esteem, but expect praise if they actually manage to turn on their work station and if they have any kind of a work problem they call mommy and expect her to fix it. Everyone fails, if you don’t keep score or give grades then you do not know how to strive towards a goal. If you don’t fail then you don’t know how to succeed. Our problems are far far bigger than just no jobs, we have come to expect that everything will be given to us. I have no solution, but finally DC is waking up to the problem.
There are so many names for catapulting the corporate propaganda. But the the corporations LIE LIE LIE!
There are two H1N1 vaccines being used in Germany. Pandremix made by GlaxoSmithKline has an experimental “adjuvant”, squalene and the mercury neurotoxin thimerosal. The other Celvapan, made by Baxter, does not contain these questionable and experimental additives. Most people can only get the Pandremix. But guess who gets the Celvapan? It is not pregnant women and children. They get the mercury vaccine. Probably both these vaccines have unwanted side effects.
Frightening. But not surprising.
well… we can’t discount the press’ role in dispensing moonshine. Early this morning the lead headlines over at Fox were:
- healthcare reform will doom Dems?
- Brooklyn jihadists applaud Ft Hood killings
- man sacked for saying that gay marriage is wrong
- god is punishing Lindsay Graham?
Seriously, this is what passes for news to a plurality of Americans
so you do not think that the progressives are the same as the rethug conservatives? Why exactly? Looks to me that they are the left equivalent to the rush conservatives who are taking over the old republician party. If you threaten those in your own party over a vote, then if an amendment passes that you do not like you say that all the dems should vote against what was, until yesterday, the most *important* thing and thus killing health care, how are you any different from the rethugs? And why should those of us moderates care if you put a *progressive* up against a say moderate- who has been in office for several terms and knows the people in his district – in a primary fight thus forcing the office holder to spend money(or to lose to the activists that vote in primaries) he could be using in the general election and possibly losing that seat to a rethug(like NY 23) how are you any different from them?
It won’t by people with your vision.
Buh bye
And then others in the press criticize the Obama WH for calling FOX out.
Why? Because they know that in their own way they’re just as guilty.
“No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American booboisie.” — H.L. Mencken
thanks Southern. Best response to flatulence I’ve seen for a week at least.
Manufacturing IS coming back a bit, since exchange rates have favored other currencies (renminbi to the 6 for a dollar range was a big help). Southeastern PA – a key manufacturing region – is showning real signs of life.
I generally agree; but see my comment @ 24. Some votes are unnecessarily hostile to the rest of the Democrats, and this amendment was one of those.
Advocating for your moral views in every way possible is what it means to be a citizen.
Demanding ideological purity can and often is strategically counter-productive. But it’s not undemocratic.
The real problem with the right is not its advocacy. It’s what it is advocating.
Last drink of moonshine I had made me think I was gonna die.
Well, I thought he was given the spot on a temporary basis.
yep. I would prefer gasoline.
Now, that moonshine is real!
At some point we’re going to be forced to start making our own apparel again. Folks will regain the understanding we had when cheap fabrics started taking over the market. Clothing made here was more durable and was more cost effective over the long term. Clothes weren’t thrown away, they were handed down. Today clothes don’t last long enough to hand down or donate.
This observation deserves expanded treatment. You oughta write it up.
I’ve been listening to Haley Barbour and, as a Republican, he is at least for real, even as I disagree with him on so much. But it annoys the hell out of me when politicians say again and again, “What the American people want…” — a particularly Republican platitude — as if he speaks for the American people. He doesn’t even speak for the people of Mississippi. I am an “American people” and I think he is dead wrong. Healthcare is the single most pressing economic issue in the long term. I don’t know what the outcome of all this is, but neither does Haley Barbour. What I will wager is that the bill will be passed in some form and by ’12 we will have all moved on. If people go back to work this will be an “overwhelming success”, if not, this will just be one more strike against the administration at re-election time. I think President Obama can live with it either way, can the rest of us? Seriously, can we let the opportunity to do SOMETHING about this travestsy of human suffering pass.
and it’s also difficult to know what to believe, with big pharmas propaganda. I remember that they were saying that vaccine versions without adjuvants and the second dose wouldn’t work (roughly half the US versions plus the Chinese versions are single dose, sans adjuvant I think)… then when the shortage kicked in, all of a sudden those bashing the non-adjuvant version in the US mysteriously changed their minds. Who knows what is true….
Listening to Haley Barbour will surely rot your brain. Don’t do it !
Part of the “moonshine” or “bunkum” or bullshit that we are constantly fed is the failed paradigms that comprise economic theory. The basis for economic theory should be how to distribute the fruits of work whether those fruits are food, shelter, healthcare or energy or whatever. Money came into being to replace those physical things that were bartered. Overtime the whole notion of money has become bastardized to the extent that the control of a printing press has replaced the production of the products and has created a level of competition that has devolved to the point of dog eat dog.
You have a point, but I do come from that part of the country and we expatriates from the South can’t forget where we come from. This guy speaks for a lot of people who’s views can’t be dismissed. It just speaks to why I just can’t take those white, Southern Republicans, even the most “reasonable” ones: they always speak as though they know what is absolutely right and wrong, and by God, they will make sure you know that and that there will be grave consequences if you disagree. Really, all the good ole boys could sussede and it would be fine. They threaten that as though it is a grave consequence. Doesn’t sound so grave to me. Ciao…
oh I agree. And the economics favor smaller scale manufacturers with innovative processes and niches – which is good for value-added apparel and good for the US. One caveat, of course, is that these smaller manufacturers tend to be non-union, but I say, let’s solve one problem at a time. I’m a big proponent for and fan of entrepreneurial American manufacturing. One plus of the recession is that manufacturers are able to find competent workers who otherwise were being diverted into construction to support the real estate bubble… this helps the workers (more stability and bennies in product manufacture than in seasonal construction) as well as the long-term economy.
Expatriate here, too. Can’t stand to listen to any of the southern politicians. My entire family back there vote Dem. Thank goodness.
What is needed though. I have experienced enough bubbles where the resources were thrown at one sector or another until the bubble burst.
Rebuilding a manufacturing base would be a great testing ground for employee owned businesses.
I’m a card carryin’, dues payin’ Wobbly and employee owned puts the means of production in worker’s hands. Not employee owned, unionize at some point early on to protect the workers.
Growth, competition, productivity! Part of the gawds of a failed economic paradigm.
If only if were that simple. The capitalist hates nothing so much as competition. That they use the term to more firmly entrench monopolies is more than interesting.
But you take your life in your hands to take issue to their faces. I can engage a policy discourse with anyone, but there is no discourse with those folks, and I get so tired of being cast into hell everytime I say I worked on the Obama campaign in Texas. Those guys are just not as interesting as they think they are: screaming it don’t make it so.
I just noticed an email from OFA time stamped 2:28am. What do they want? Money, of course.
Not one fuckin’ dime.
I certainly won’t be donating. When they listen to us, I will listen to them.
Yeah, I got one of those this AM. I was not polite when I went to the DNC website and told them to go cheney themselves and if they wondered who to blame, they could start with stupak and go from there.
Glenn. Moonshine is best in your coffee. Balderdash is a bit much to say as an off hand thing. Now piffle is useful as in purveyors of piffle. Kinda rolls of the tongue.
Jobs may come and jobs may go but somebody has to shovel all this flimflam.
Moonshine in my coffee. There’s change I can believe in.
timr. You’ve a serious [Edited by Moderator. Please refrain from name calling of other commenters]. Nice lines, Glenn.
Right wing conservatives leaders resort to a lot of “bunkum” so their followers will not know “shit from shine-ola.”
Moonshine is not the exclusive province of Republicans or blue dogs. If it were it would be a lot easier for the public to distinguish between the good guys and the bad guys. Democrats and progressives have dispensed a lot of moonshine in selling this health care reform, especially when it came to promoting the PO and claiming that the current bill would result in “universal, affordable, and comprehensive” health care. For lies told by a progressive Democrat who has been echoing Pelosi and Reid see here, and here. Also, the lies continue in a wonderful speech, here.
Moon shine is corrosive. Whoever uses it, and whatever the purpose.