Timely!

ZED!!
or not….

YIPPEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!

DELBERT!!!!!!

hey kelly — how’s denver

do we get to celebrate my birthday again tonight?

hey nahant — how’s the west bay tonight?

Nice restoration again!

hey that guy — check your glasses dood — no delbert in this cartoon (lmao)

sure if ya wanna jayt — it is still your birthday week yanno

how’s indy tonight?

hey newton — this was from almost 50 years ago! mind blowing how good it looks :)

how’s indy tonight?

gorgeous – it hit 70 degrees today.

I thought about getting on the bike, ’cause it’s supposed to be nice for the next coupla days, but then I figured that that would be just enough time to get real sore, with nothing to show for it.

so I drove around with the top open.

west bay tonight?

Gee never thought of here being west bay… but ya right..
Clear and chillin Brrr but that wood burner sure makes a difference.

43 here with no rain (at the moment). 3rd nite in a row with lightning storms lighting up the bay and spit. a tornado took the roof off a house down in lincoln city last night — about an hour south of me. it was a waterspout that formed on the ocean and came ashore into a buncha houses. no injuries and the destroyed house was empty. nothing like that up here :)

Glad I stuck around, Soooze.

Like …. the pink sky.

Dislike.. that tie. Purple? C’mon dawg.

you are just used to calling it deadwood city dood (waving to j)

Denver is a bit crazed. 79 yesterday, prolly rain and low 40s tomorrow night, maybe even snow tomorrow night; that’s how we roll!

hey bfl — it was the 60’s…. albeit very very early sixties :) everything was going pop colors

and it was great in The City Beautiful. No crazed gunmen shooting up buildings. Today. We’ll take it a day at a time.

stephanie (formerly known as baby girl) will be passing through on her way from kansas to up near ft collins. she is gonna hunker down there for the winter before heading to bible college in wyoming in the spring.

one day at a time indeed :)

yeah. The pilot of Yogi Bear? Wow. What’s the matter Boo-boo? Loved it.

Yeah, Suze, I know there’s no Delbert in it, I just wanted to write that!

As much as that cartoon is swell, I’m replaying, yes for the 3rd time, the “Fuck You” vid from Lilly, a la Sharkbabe.

Ahhh! Just can’t get enough!

I thought that there was some kinda city ordinance in Denver that, if there was no snow by Labor Day, the town would commandeer all the snow making machines from the ski places and just make. it. happen.

‘Course, I could have been misinformed.

Now, I gotta run. Nite all.

hiya, firepups

laughing — how ya doing dood?

it’s on my fav list. tis a keeper

hey ppd — how’s the south south bay tonight?

Dislike.. that tie. Purple? C’mon dawg.

ahem.

I have some very sweet purple ties.

Including some jerry garcia ones.

g’nite bfl — good to see ya again

O good DAWG JayT, we had one of the coldest Octobers on record. And the snow from the blizzard a couple days ago just finished melting; and not all!

There’s plowed up brown piles of snow in the parking lots while it’s still 79 yesterday.

Little tiny sad Malkin snowmen abound. I want to put “Allah Pundit” signs on some of them; but nobody would get the joke.

j waves back Suz and Tucker says “Woof Woof” give Token a treat

OK today. Day to day, for sure, though as I said in my email, I’ve about had it.

We have been betrayed by the Democrats.

maybe he meant purple sky

token and bailey are curled up snoozing on the sofa — at opposite ends of course.

Another day, and yet another example of Republicans who hate government – In other news, water trending to dampness in public opinion.

;>)

i hear ya that guy. been a day of ups and downs

hey db — wanna adopt me? (/s)

I’m probably worse than Busted in the housekeeping department, Suz.

;>)

i’m not terribly domesticated myself db and will admit that i live best solo :)

That attack on women, IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, was an attack on EVERYBODY.

Disgraceful is the least of the words I want to use, but the others will not pass the sensible mods at FDL.

…the housekeeping department,

i’m not terribly domesticated myself db

amateurs.

I dare either one of ya to try to walk around my place in the dark. heh.

Well, OK…All my American friends can come up and stay at Petro’s – Lots of room when we put the massage table and the empties out in the shed.

;>)

primary the fuckers passes the mod

We have been betrayed by the Democrats.

How so? I’ve been busy and didn’t follow today’s goings-ons. I did see that the healthcare bill passed 220 to 215 with 39 Dems voting “nay,” and that Stupak’s amendment passed with 69 or so Dems voting “Aye.” But I don’t quite understand where the “betrayal” part comes in.

…the others will not pass the sensible mods at FDL.

can’t help ya man – I’m pretty sure that I’m still on double-secret probation here.

If you are asking for a second, it is so offered.

The way those boys talk to girls it’s not a wonder that they have to pay to have their privates powdered.

;>)

no insurance provider that is in the exchange can offer abortion coverage.

it will remove currently existing coverage from policies.

OK!

Primary the FUCKERS; ALREADY!

Ah so! Any chance of changing that in conference?

some are. others remember other times things were not fixed in conference.. like fisa…. etc

Gack!

wigwam… there is a video currently under production that will help.. i’ll post the link when it is uploaded (should be shortly)

Goodness, that’s not very parliamentary language – What might the left side of the aisle say? Why, they might deem it objectionable.

Truthfully, though, if your representatives don’t serve you, they need to be replaced…Or scared enough to ensure they stain their tighty whities doing the right thing.

;>)

I know, people might say I’m out of my mind and a broken record and so forth, but it’s true to me; EPU’d from the thread below –

It’s like damn near 30 years of progress just went instantly backwards; and I remember what it was like at that time.

It was Gay Bosnia/Hercegovina. Bashing was rampant. It was like “How dare you be out, homo? Crawl back in your hole.”

For Women to take this hit to almost back to Roe, is just not acceptable to me. Our fates are interwoven.

I’m in – primary the fuckers!

There are many fuckers who need their asses primaried. But it’s a fundamental principle of military tactics to engage your enemies sequentially rather than simultaneously. All of the offenders should face at least token primary challengers in 2010. But the question will be which ones to concentrate on.

Conventional wisdom is to go after the weakest and pick off as many as possible. There is another view that is to pick off a couple of the strongest to intimidate the rest. (I have no clue as to which would be the better tactic, but I bet Jane has a list of names already.)

hey sunny — how ya doing tonight?

Thanks, Suzanne.

i have faith that jane had a game plan all worked out for just in case.

*rubbing hands together gleefully*

No sound strategical reasoning here – but I like the idea of going for the strongest. Chop off the fucking head, and let the other learn to live in flop-sweat.

Kaptur, Dahlkemper, Stupak would be a good start.

donna edwards style

This is when we need Planned Parenthood to step up, and they will not. So we do this the hard way.

damn straight.

In boxing, the maxim is “kill the body, and the head will follow”.

In politics, I’m thinking that it’s the other way ’round.

Kaptur??? Holy shit! I thought she was one of the good people. By the end of Moore’s movie, she was one of my heros. WTF did she do today?

hey Suz, hey Nahant

ditto naral

*spitting* a pox on the national organizations — any funding i do is direct and local

They’ve been on my shit list ever since the Alito nomination.

I don’t know what to think about Planned Parenthood and NARAL, other than they don’t understand politics, and need to get some people in there pdq who do.

So we do this the hard way.

I love that phrase, and I enjoy following it through.

I am, at heart, a bit of an asshole.

here ya go wigwam — watch this

I’m with you!

(Suz thanks for the sweet cartoon, I love it.)

thanks margot — how ya doing tonight? how’s ohio?

So we do this the hard way.

I love that phrase, and I enjoy following it through.

I am, at heart, a bit of an asshole.

So, by all means, enjoy yourself! These people have it coming. They need D I S C I P L I N E ! ! !

I know…
She was all in with Stupak last night in committee, and all in today.

It is bewildering, unless as emerson suggested, she may be about to chuck her seat.

So Suz, which is worse-spending the day in the dentist’s chair or sitting through CSPN’s all-day Health-a-thon?

That is why you’re one of my favorite commenters.
It’s kind of like being in touch with your Inner Child only better.

I am, at heart, a bit of an asshole.

Raise.

Ohio is pretty, it got around 60s today.

rAmen, sistah!

I was just banging around the piano, so mad. And I remembered, I do have an offering.

From the Pink Floyd Cannon, of my “EVERYTHING I KNOW [POLTICALLY] I LEARNED FROM PINK FLOYD”

Us and Them.

Sorry to say, but it’s true. It’s Us and Them.

cspan — my dentist numbs me so i don’t feel a thing

we gotta come up with our own version of the chicago way

It’s kind of like being in touch with your Inner Child only better.

*mmwwahhh*

I like to think of it as the world’s most extended adolescence. *g*

hey PPD how goes it?

Raise.

we’re not gonna have to compare pictures or anything, right?

heh.

yeah, I get that. Probably doesn’t feel like the dentist stole something from you either.

YES!

and he is not bought off by some lobbyist who determines what treatment i get or not

kaptur coming up — i’ll let ya know

in honor of the 40th (gulp) year since the release of Led Zeppelin II:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYWxE-ShdXc

carry on.

great fucking pic jayt

Concur.

I wish I knew what that really was.

Me skating around with a sign in a tutu interrupting a busy intersection like I did a long time ago doesn’t seem to cut it.

We’ve got amendments!

I HAVE A TUTU!

That would be ‘rise.’
And, no.

I actually got invited to a party at Robert Plant’s house – fell through – boring story.

Per the wikipedia:

Marcy Kaptur

Member of the U.S. House of Representatives
from Ohio’s 9th district
Incumbent
Assumed office
January 3, 1983
Preceded by Ed Weber
Born June 17, 1946 (1946-06-17) (age 63)
Toledo, Ohio
Political party Democratic
Residence Toledo, Ohio
Alma mater University of Wisconsin–Madison
University of Michigan
University of Manchester
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Occupation urban planner
Religion Roman Catholic

Emphasis mine.

for some reason this does not surprise me :)

kaptur in support

hey kelly — you ever do any stevie ray?

She followed her bishop’s orders.

we are not a forkiing theocracy

Um, OFA just hit my inbox with this, to which I say, BARF:

Tonight’s vote brought every American closer to the secure, affordable care we need. But it was also a watershed moment in how change is made.

Even after last year’s election, many insider lobbyists and partisan operatives really thought that the old formula of scare tactics, D.C. back-scratching and special-interest money would still be enough to block any idea they didn’t like. Now, they’re desperate. Because, tonight, you made it crystal clear: the old rules are changing [ed; no, it's the same old rules, sorry to inform you] — and the people will not be ignored. [ed; um, you just ignored all the women, dumbass]

In the final phases of last year’s election, I often reminded folks, “Don’t think for a minute that power concedes without a fight,” and it’s especially true today. [no fucking kidding!] But that’s okay — we’re not afraid of a fight. And as you continue to prove, when all of us work together, we have what it takes to win.
g way
Please donate to OFA’s campaign [no frikkin in hell - kthnxbye] to win this fight and ensure that real health reform reaches my desk by the end of this year:

https://donate.barackobama.com/History

Let’s keep making history,

although bmaz vehemently disagrees, I still think that what’s his name’s amendment is unconstitutional because it violates the first amendment’s prohibition as to religion, and freedom of expression.

But then again, I don’t do constitutional stuff – i just fight down in the dirt with the “little people”.

Seriously pissed …. but not surprised. Human nature at its worst.

On a cheering note. Going to be 71 tomorrow and monday.

Hello namaste hope everyone is well. Driving by at high speed..beep beep!

Nite Pups..

I agree, but not everyone see’s it that way. Too many feel that God almighty is not compentent to enforce his own wishes and that he wants them to do it for him. Assholes!

hey bb — beep beep

g’nite nahant

You know, I need to. He’s all guitar, and the thing with the synth is translating it to keyboard, which I have minimal, but a wee bit of success at. I’ll try some more.

That is so beautiful and calming.

—Edit
Do you ever do any Donald Fagen?

sounds like great fall weather sunny

sweet — looking forward to listing to your take on his work

primary the fuckers

So, why doesn’t the White House kiss Joseph Cao’s ass like it does Olympia Snowe’s? He made this bill BI-fucking-PARTISAN.

i feel confident the republicans are going to primary him

“Cannot God cajole a member of his flock tubesteak so big that he himself cannot eat it?”

He hasn’t been there long enough to know how to properly milk it.

Hey! It’s Mod Approved:

PRIMARY THE FUCKERS!

iirc the mod approved version was not all caps :)

Wading through the empty beer cans to get to the keyboard, wait a minute, that one is still full!

Yeah yeah, I found room for a buddy to fall down for the night, three times.
Even our lovely Suzanne was impressed at the joint.
I did have to warn her not to open the doors to the bedroom, I don’t think I could have dug her out by myself before help could arrive.

hey busted — room for a buddy! hot dayam…. i’ll have to swing by soon and take a look at it myself.

So, what percentage of those who voted for that amendment did Rahm’s DCCC and PAC contribute to?

ok –
it’s mod approved;
primary the fuckers!

rosa delaurro in opposition

*laughing* however i take heart in knowing the fuckers won’t be laughing when we primary them.

no albino snakes were harmed in the following video:

Tito and Tarantula:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIBEo-hUARQ

well it IS your birthday weekend jayt (laughing)

Or their voluptuous dance partners.

Happy b-day JayT!

You lived to have another one!

not gonna bring up the audience…

jayt — musta been the best bday present ever to lay eyes on your son :)

It is currently raining like a cow pissing on a flat rock, has been most of the day.

Been laying around all day and now it is Bed time.

Smooches.

more headed your way dood — hunker down. g’nite and g’thud busted *smooches back atcha dood*

“And remember boys if you don’t find yourself attracted to girls it might because you have a calling. A calling to the priest hood. Come and see Fr. Bob after mass in the rectory and we’ll talk about the joys of donning the collar.”

It this was true San Francisco would be FILLED with priests! One on every corner two in every bed room!

Hey, Tarantula was singing a wee bit about WEED!

And something about being all pinche

Hmmm….

I think I know those guys!

Love Rosa’s politics, but the lime/mustard ensemble is not her best look. I can overlook it if she can find a way to dispose of HoJo.

hey spocko — how ya doing tonight?

The barely concealed attitude, via Fosse:

The Rich Man’s Frug

[Ref: The Frug at Wikipedia.]

hey prostrated — how ya been? i love this video

yeah – but that would be one fine bar band.

less eclectic:

Carlos:

Europa:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGbXHC0OjnQ

and:

with everlast:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5di5EhZshdQ

A Saturday night two-fer! I believe that’s a first.

Have I mentioned that, at the moment, I have no neighbors on either side of me?

heh.

Per Jane: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-hamsher/naral-and-planned-parenth_b_349596.html

[...]

But let’s be clear about this. The only reason that we are in the position where the price of passing health care reform is allowing even liberal Marcy Kaptur to sneeringly dismiss choice activists as narrow class warriors who don’t care about working women is because Planned Parenthood and NARAL have allowed it to happen. They collect millions of dollars in revenue each year. They’ve exacted no price from the Marcy Kapturs of the world, who actually have to care what liberals think of them, and focused instead on anti-choice Republicans who are only empowered by their ire. They have no scalps. There is no price for crossing Planned Parenthood and NARAL. It isn’t a fight that the Democrats want to spend “political capital” on, and these groups insure that they don’t have to.

Forget about the fact that more Americans are now anti-choice than pro-choice for the first time since Gallup has been polling the issue. More and more Democrats in Congress each year are anti-choice. It’s acceptable now. These groups have the lobbyists, the money, the access, and their leadership uses it for their own personal advancement while the cause they purport to defend withers on the vine.

The national Planned Parenthood organization listed $126 million in assets in 2007. Cecile Richards made $385,163 (PDF). The state chapters whose employees put their lives on the line so women can have the right to choose deserve support and protection within the Democratic party that she is not providing.

NARAL paid Nancy Keenan $145,538 from the Foundation (PDF) in 2007, which listed total assets of $4,119,329.

If they really cared about going after Stupak or Kaptur as a lesson to the rest, they most certainly have the resources to do it. Stupak’s donors include a lot of PACS that have a heavy investment in consumer branding that appeals to women, companies like Amazon and Ford and Herbalife and Siemens, Sprint and T-Mobile and UPS and Verizon who don’t want to be known for financing Stupak’s anti-abortion activism.

One can only imagine what would happen if pro-choice supporters started calling them. In short, Stupak and his fellow anti-abortion demagogues within the Democratic Party only get away with this because NARAL and Planned Parenthood let them.

you have no idea.

Even knowing that he was safe at home, I was somehow still fucked up for the entire day.

thanks for thinking of that.

i know that feeling well — feels good to let the speakers rip eh

laying eyes on a loved one that one has been worried about is the best forking feeling in the world dood. i’m just glad he is safe and with you to celebrate

Thank you for posting this.
Jane Hamsher has been posting this piece repeatedly over the years, and the only facts that have changed… are the amounts. Upwards.

yeah, and Nick just shrugged it off.

When you’re 21 years old, you’re invincible – except to the people who love you.

I’m okay. I was over at Digby’s place trying to talk down some person who was angry at DIGBY because she wasn’t writing about this. I told them to come over here and questioned their response. Focus your anger people.

I like the idea of primary’s. I also want to start thinking about a fund for abortions.
The rich will always be able to get safe abortions. So, as part of all rich people’s abortion will be The Impregnation tax. It will be DNA linked to the father and it will be based on gross earnings. Men who can’t pay and who vote against choice and still got someone pregnant will be given service work handing out condoms to kids wearing an costume. “I got a woman pregnant and I could pay for her legal abortion, don’t be like me.”

I think we could raise lots of money.

i hear ya dood. baby girl is galavanting around the midwest so my worry meter is up. unfortunately, age is no protection is something one learns only with sad experience.

primary the fuckers. and they don’t like condoms either.

hmm, that no caps at all seems to go a long way.

i fucking hate brussell sprouts! there, i said it, bastards.

then don’t eat fucking brussel sprouts dood (lmao)

i don’t eat lima beans for that very reason

primary the fuckers. they don’t like condoms either.

*applause and simultaneous laughter*

In our shopper paper today, there were photos of veterans currently serving and from past conflicts. There was one guy who was on his 4th tour of Iraq. Staff sergeant, looks like he’s in his 40s.

bring
them
home
now

Exactly. And she has been something of a voice in the wilderness on this one, ever since the Alito debacle. But she has been dead right on the dishonest games that NARAL and Planned Parenthood have been playing with their supporters’ key issue.

don’t brussel sprouts come from some communist/fascist/democrat country? I swear that they’re a plot to make kids hate their parents.

What? Where’d we get us some Delbert?

Killin me.

hey larue — bout time you forking showed up *G*

Now that the bishops are in charge, condoms will become illegal, just like they were in Ireland.

and all other forms of birth control will soon follow….

Yeah, and Presley’s dead, too, along with Lennon.

That’s funny? And now you funny too?

Gimme another three beers, and turn up Thorougood.

Please.

*G*

Say what?

*G*

… except for abstinence.

i drink alone

I’ve gotten the distinct impression that I’m the only Concrete Blonde fan here. So be it. Johnette all by her ownself singing and explaining the song “Tomorrow, Wendy”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swBMuCqNU-k

fuck it – it’s still kind of my birthday. *g*

I gotta go. But I’ll leave with this for Suz

After a rough and tumble vote night, I still say a nocturne belongs to night people.

Smooches to you beloved firepups. Manana.

g’nite kelly — smooches for the nocturne

barbara lee in opposition

Forever Yellow Skies

I heart, Dolores O’Riordan and Cranberries.

Harumph.

*G*

Hey, everybody. I guess I picked a bad day to stay off the computer and teevee.
I sort of assumed nothing would happen today; can’t believe Stupak passed. And Kaptur…thanks, Suzanne, for posting those clips. never heard of DeGette before this week – is she a true liberal?

Anyway….Primary the Fuckers!

Hey, Barb Lee kicked fundy ass

hey tejan — primary the fuckers indeed. how ya doing?

she sure did newton…. she was magnificent

I drink, I sip, I pick.

Therefore, I Iz.

Original Forever Yellow Skies.

I still heart Dolores and Cranberries.

*G*

Pretty good, Suze. Ticked off about this Stupak business – how easily what’s so hard-won can be thrown away. Unbelievable, with a Democratic pres and Democratic majority…. except, of course, too many of those so-called Dems are not real Dems.

Sigh.

Good weather, here, though. A week of lovely, sunny, warm days.

come on admit it she could be singing all i want for xmas is my two front teeth and you would love it

Partay on hoss!

*G*

excess population and war have a traditional linkage

Yeah, you got a point?

*G*

*snicker*

I hope all Pups seen Jane Hamsher’s take on HR 3962, at Huff Po.

Cuz she nailed the fucks, to the wall.

And I’m progly glad, she DID!

*G*

Nah, go google it yerselves.

I’m slavin all over Dolores O’Riordan and too busy to linky.

*G*

*smirk*

*eyebrow raised*

knock knock anyone still home?

hey selise — how ya doing tonight?

Hey, I ONLY read HuffPo for the naked breasts and the Lindsey Lohan updates.

*raising other eyebrow*

howdy suz. can’t sleep. sorry you only see me at my worst.

Hey Selise, what do you think of the votes today?

If by ‘worse’ you mean ‘pissed,’ you have good cause.

Wait A Minute!

Not My Fave With Duffey and ORig’s, But Well Done.

*G*

Forever Yellow Skies

I heart, Dolores O’Riordan and Cranberries.

*applauding*

in Paris:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZJHZLFCwjE

the sweet little smile Dolores gives the band before she turns and bellows: “Zom-Bee!”

I watch it aboutt three times a week.

Dolores is to die for.

So, yer a Page 3 fan, are ya?

*G*

what about the 57 cpc members who promised to vote against this bill? the ones jane raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for? i think it’s nuts to blame planned parenthood (naral i get) when we didn’t even whip those 57 to live up to their pledge.

i like seeing ya anytime selise. ya’ll are lucky ya can’t see me :)

furious.

massive stupid fail. increase costs, no cost controls, enriches the very industries that will need to be taken on if universal healthcare is ever to happen in this country. no po except in name only. women thrown under the bus. worse than the MA 2006 reform.

massive stupid fail by dems and supporters of obamacare.

….

other than that, i’m good. how about you?

Without jumping on that assertion, PP and NARAL could and should be key allies in this, and they have a great reach into these critters districts, should they choose to stand up.

you are very sweet. thank you.

Paris Zombie is one I’ve posted a few times.

It rocks.

The whole Paris show rocked.

My fav Berries and Dolores is the ‘96 To The Faithful Departed.

Still makes me cry, smile and tremble.

Great, great music.

Harumph.

‘-)

naw i just play one online — just ask my girls :)

i’m less pissed off at pp because their primary mission is to provide services and they do a good job of that. i have no fracking idea what naral does.

i have a question on site rules, which i don’t want to break. i’d like to write a really really negative diary on hcan. so long as i don’t make it personal (no names) and i can back up my claims with evidence, is that allowed?

got a link?

sorry – no negativity allowed around here. Just heard that tonight from, ummm, trolls.

Never mind.

sure i don’t see why not. as long as you are not flaming, disagreeing with the message is always good. it is when things shift into attacking the messenger that things get iffy. sounds like you got the links to back up your claims.

At least for tonight, Nancy Keenan and NARAL are ‘outraged’ and ’sorely disappointed’ at passage of Stupak.

Washington, D.C. – Nancy Keenan, president of NARAL Pro-Choice America, called House passage of a stunning last-minute anti-choice amendment to health reform an outrageous blow to women’s freedom and privacy — and she vowed to fight to remove this provision as the process goes to the Senate.

Tomorrow, whoever has a bigger wad of cash is probably the winner.

happy birthday bonnie

in other words she sees this as a fundraising opportunity so they can continue to do nothiing

Yeah, but what are they gonna do about it?

Cecile Richards was in town in Sept., I think – I signed up to go hear her, thinking about challenging her–then got sick and couldn’t go.

It sure looks like their purpose has become simply raising money.

Selise, it’s NEVER nuts to follow the facts, and change your personal feelings and your support based on what orgs do or DON’T do, to support your personal needs, desires, and beliefs.

ME? I’m a guy, and me and my wife are not pissed at Moveon, DFA, PP, and many other so called rights orgs that have backed up the feudalist corps positions and sold out the we the people.

Fuck the so called prog org’s. Fuck NARAL, Fuck PP..

Jane calls it.

They don’t fight for us, we don’t support them. Why the fuck should we, Selise?

If they don’t have our interests at heart?

YOUR interests, as a woman, Selise? Why should we support them?

Honestly, tell me why Selise, why me and my wife should support ANY org that don’t support prog and lib issues, and WOMEN’S Rights?

Reform, it’s another plan to suck us all under.

I’ll wait for the FINAL plan that Obama has to sign, before ME and MINE, commit to giving our souls and hearts to any change we were told would come our way.

*G*

Oh darlin.

I’m SO with ya.

If ya want help or support in this lemme know.

Cuz I am SO with ya.

*G*

And sorry if ya ta took ‘darlin’ as a negative.

In songs, of the grass, it’s there as a general figurative of speech.

“Don’t Fall In Love With Me, Darlin, I’m A Rambler.”

A great bluegrass song . . .*G*

I repeat:
Tomorrow, whoever has a bigger wad of cash is probably the winner.

I kind of understand how these organizations get into this fundraising-to-survive cycle, and under ChimpCo, it must have been terrifying. But they never have returned to their core missions, and it is laziness on their part, IMHO. They are not possessed of strong leadership, and until that returns, they are at the mercy of those who pay them to just-barely-breathe.

if my links/evidence don’t substantiate my claims i hope and expect to be called on it. course, i think they do, but honest corrections always welcome. no names (other than the organization) but the links do go back to individual statement, even if the individual names are not mentioned in the diary.

no intention of flaming. more an attempt at accountability — just as jane is doing with pp and naral. i would have had no worries before oxdown was turned over to hcan, which i was thinking might complicate matters. is there someone i could email with a draft for preapproval? maybe rbg?

Dude, Youtube, Cranberries, Paris, Zombie.

Simple.

Sorry, lazy!

*G*

fund raising opportunity. swell.

howdy larue.

i think ya can just post it but if you want to — from the about us page at seminal: email seminal at theseminal dot com

At least for tonight, Nancy Keenan and NARAL are ‘outraged’ and ’sorely disappointed’ at passage of Stupak.

Somebody needs to resign muy pronto.

Isn’t watching and fighting this kind of unadulterated crap pretty much their job?

Spit.

Is RM on Meet the Press tomorrow?

oooh thanks for the reminder– yes she is

Selise, so sorry, me and my wife ARE pissed off.

I didn’t get back to edit that in my previe post, in time.

We ARE pissed off!!!

Harumph.

I’d very much like to see what you have to say.

BTW, what were Jane and Eve saying to the representatives who had promised to vote against any bill that lacked a “strong” public option. Did they consider this one to be strong enough?

how would get that email?

thanks Suz, I’ll record it.

i found it at the bottom of this

They do play the ‘helpless wimmin-folk’ angle up to an outrageous degree.
I mean no disrespect to any wimmin-folk, except those that use their self-imposed plight to… ask for money in exchange for… endorsements is patently disgraceful.

How do they feel about RGJoe again?

Is RM on Meet the Press tomorrow?

If by “RM” you mean Rachel Maddow, then – yeah.

I’ve got to turn in now.

G’nite all.

Thanks.

g’nite emerson

double crap… that shudda been g’nite wigwam

Yes. The best reason to get up at 8 on a Sunday morning.
Ed Gillespie and Brooksie are going to be there.

i don’t know the whole story, but i do know that 57 cpc member promised to vote against this bill (july 30) letter. there were 3 more on a later later and there was the fdl pledge. the 57 clearly had a responsibility to vote against the bill today (for the others there is a difference of opinion). jane raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for them all.

my rep, jim mcgovern, is one of the 57. he had a “town hall” conference call wednesday night and when i got the first question, i asked him about his pledge — he blew me off (didn’t deny making the pledge though).

i have more links, but here are the main ones:

timeline

the july 30 letter

the money

i’m looking forward to catching the local rerun or watching it online — i don’t do 8am

Shit.
Tell us you recorded the call…

Neville Brothers: Tell it Like It Is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcbbOYcEz88

and who is that red-head to his left? and that long-haired blonde guy on the keyboard?

’tis a puzzlement.

oops. sorry, i meant to ask “who” would get the email. since seminal is now run by hcan blogger, it’s like asking naral if i can write something trueful but negative about them.

Hint? :-)

i didn’t but there is supposed to be one. will try to track it down next week.

i don’t have equipment to record anything other than my side of conversation. and i think in ma, i’d have let people know i was recording it (i have no problem with doing that)

not sure — its a generic email addy. i would think it would go to their editorial staff.

i still think you should just post it. iirc there have been other diaries that were not happy with hcan

Newton, let’s just get this on and call crap for what it is.

The HR 3962 is ok but so far it sells women’s right’s and others down the toilet.

Because the House is gonna resolve THEIR version of it all tonight, we don’t need to shoot our load.

After tonight and the House vote, we still have the Senate versions (plural, yes) to deal with, and THEN the merger.

As of today, we know NOTHING of what’s gonna be sent to Obama for signature.

NOTHING!

Till then, we have to wait.

Course, cajolin a bit for prog issues is never a BAD idea.
*G* 0

itunes, baby.
Just load the podcast(vidcast). It will dload about 90 minutes after broadcast.

good night wigwam.

forkup

i’m tired.. its been a busy and long day

Oh,yeah! I forgot about that…I gotta go to bed so I can get up in time to see her! (only have an old VCR whose remote doesn’t work, so I can’t set up to record at a later time. Sigh.)

Good to vent with y’all. G’nite, everybody.

Gillespie will fidget and try not to look at her (like Armey) Then she’ll matter-of-factly kick his azz.

sweet thanks newton

*G*

g’nite tejan

I like to get up extra early so I’ll have extra time to take a nap. *g*

Oh, and selise – your proposed piece sounds like something we’d all want to read.

Here is what Democrats have done (explaining why we are so weak now): wait and see.

I am not waiting to see. Our thumbs smell bad enough as it is.

Lol. G’nite, jayt.

best thing about being retired is no forking alarm clock. zero. zip. i get up if i wanna get up otherwise i roll back over and go back to sleep

Ain’t that the truth.

One more before I turn in:

Van and some friends:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYr60DVzehg

If I’m not back later – night, y’all.

sweet exit tune jayt — now sleep dammit :)

I still smile at that Armey shellacking.
Someday, if we all lead sainted lives, Liz Cheney will accidentally accept an invite to MTP for the same week as Rachel.
Talk about lip-smacking good teevee!

Like I said, HR 3962 sucks.

But it’s not a final bill, yet.

*G*

i would pay to see that newton

jane has written some, but the one i have in mind is pretty harsh. from what i’ve seen, i like and respect (and want to follow) the rules the mods use to determine what is acceptable and what is not. the one time i stepped over the line, i knew it and thought it was completely correct to have my comment pulled.

in this case though, there are two issues: 1) i want to go right up to the line without crossing it. and 2) i don’t know if seminal has different rules than the rest of fdl.

i’m not trying to find a legalistic way to follow the written rule without following the spirit of the rules. i want to follow both, but i’ve never purposefully thought to go as far as i want to now, so i’m not sure exactly where the rules (spirit included) draw the line. maybe will just think on it a bit more….

about time for me to fade off… my typo to error ratio is getting pretty bad :)

g’nite all. thanks for the conversation and tunes tonight.

nite pups – you’re the best.

nite suz

La la la la, la la la.

Killer song, killer pic on the utube.

Van Had Hair!

Turn up the raydeo!!!!!!

Sweet pic, Jay.

*G*

Ooooh, I’d pay to see that!

fuck it – write it – publish it – and let the chips fall…

on edit: if anyone has the cred here – it’s you. let it roll.

Tomorrow.

i’ve been pretty critical of the dems in general and obama in particular. but this whole health care / health insurance fiasco has blown me away. much much worse than i imagined it would be.

i like your attitude. mine is to angst and angst first. but if you’ve been reading my comments recently, you will know that i have not been pulling punches.

g’nite Suz.

You guys are funny.

You really think primary challenges will matter?

Look at how the “Progressives” votes tonight. Every single one voted for the bill.

WE don’t need more cowards in office, it wouldn’t matter.

they’ll vote no they said….then they showed their true colors.

We need to primary them, man that’s funny.

Revolution is the only option left.

thanks for all the good advice, and especially for the company. going to try to get some sleep. be well all.

re your, “Revolution is the only option left.”

In a time of universal deceit – telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
— george orwell

I don’t think anybody envisioned the magnitude of this snafu. One year ago most were expecting single payer. This really could have been grand.

So, you are here for moral support, looking out for our best interests.
I feel better already.

You know what to do, and how to do it.

nite selise.

a breath of fresh air!

“Hand me that there fan, Scarlet. I’m gettin’ the vapors.”

If you can get thousands in the streets, I’ll join you. So how do you propose to do that?

Selise, yer family.

Just let it loose, gal.

Loud, raucas, and bold.

It’s not like yer phookn alone, ya know?

*G*

See, I always want to take it to the action level, but no one follows up.

tired.
must sleep.
nite you guys.

g’nite newt

Very long day. I’m out, too.

g’nite Larue.