So, a couple of Gitmo detainees walk into a bar. . . .
I believe the answer is none.
I have seen a lot of bullshit bonhomie over years of Washington watching, but I was still shocked by the exchange featured here. Joking that a few extra hours in a cramped committee room are like being a prisoner at Guantanamo, and doing so without even the slightest hint of self-awareness, is far outside the bounds of good taste, even for Congress.
I didn’t think it needed saying, but obviously it does: Having to sit through a half-day’s worth of partisan wrangling, where you have access to water, food, staff, and the warm glow of TV cameras is not worse than (or even akin to) years of indefinite detention in a prison cell on a remote island, cut off from anyone you know or love, subject to routine abuse and frequent torture, all conducted under a cloak of official secrecy, outside the rule of law, without any recourse or any reasonable expectation that this hell will ever end. Further, such jocular comparisons are singularly insensitive to the denigration of human rights perpetrated under the color of authority, and, what’s more, are not in the least bit funny.
Given the complete lack of sensitivity or self-awareness, is it any wonder that we seem to lack as a nation any sense of urgency to close this American gulag and restore the rule of law?
And, given this complete lack of sensitivity and self-awareness, is it any wonder that just a few hours later, these same august men and women thought it acceptable to trade away the reproductive rights of a broad swath of poor and middle-class Americans?
If there are equivalencies to be drawn here, they exist in the cavalier attitudes that Members of Congress seem to have about basic human rights and the protections guaranteed under the US Constitution.
Alas, those doing the joking are off camera, so I can’t place their imperious mugs on any wall of shame, but I have reason to believe that at least one of those buffoons is a Democrat. That, too, should probably not be a surprise. When a Republican was in the White House, Democrats failed to exercise there power to stop the Military Commissions Act or prevent anti-abortion judges from taking seats on the Supreme Court; now, with a Democrat in the White House and commanding majorities in Congress, Democrats seem incapable of rolling back the extra-legal regimes put in place by the Bush administration, but quite capable of rolling back rights granted under Roe v. Wade.
It shouldn’t be acceptable, it isn’t funny, but guess what, America? Once again the joke’s on you.
(If you are feeling inclined to make some calls to these purported public servants over whether health care reform will deny abortion coverage to any individuals or groups that get insurance, public or private, from the new health care exchange, HCAN has a list of numbers.)



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Well, at least the Times article didn’t use the term “pro life”. They’re not pro life– almost all of them are pro death penalty and pro war. The reporter called them “abortion opponents” and other similar expressions.
Just thought I’d point out a silver lining.
[self censored to avoid moderation for what I'm really thinking needs to be done]
I’m especially fond of their cries for Freedom as they knowingly take away the freedoms of fellow citizens and foreign innocents.
Too many of them are unfit to serve. Time for replacements!
the protections guaranteed under the US Constitution
You mean there really are such protections? Where do we find those?
As for your post: They’re a crass lot. I couldn’t believe my ears when I heard that bit of stupidity. (Sorry I got side-tracked on the female discrimination aspects)
Thanks for writing about this. I thought it was revolting. There is no voice for the voiceless in our society anymore–whether it be detainees at Guantanomo or poor women who need an abortion. Obama is the the new liberal. Anything to the left of him–which includes everybody who cares about social justice–is “fringe”.
“If there are equivalencies to be drawn here, they exist in the cavalier attitudes that Members of Congress seem to have about basic human rights and the protections guaranteed under the US Constitution.” ; will disagree about the word ‘attitudes’ as my perspective is that they are ignorant of “basic human rights and the protections guaranteed under the US Constitution” ;otherwise ,how do you explain the house vote and declarations at the UN about the Goldstone Report?
They suck.
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They’re in the amendments that these guys keep feeding to the shredders.
Dakine01. I am with you on that.
just saw the clip on TMV about the clusterfuck in the house when Dingal was chairman. The rethugs have proved once more-and I hope that this gets some play on the networks(who am I kidding, it will never be seen except on the net, the network whores will never critize the rethugs)that they have no class. Dingal should have the sgt at arms remove the person who is acting like a 2 year old. Disgusting.
here is the clip
http://themoderatevoice.com/52199/republicans-disrupt-debate-on-house-floor/
Glenn, thank you. It was a telling moment, and no doubt indicative of what goes on behind closed doors in that body (“Have you heard the one about the ACLU…” HA HA, yeah, yeah…).
I couldn’t help contrasting the oh-so-earnest “sanctity of life” panel’s arguments – by Stupak and Kaptur, et al – to their utter lack of demonstrated concern for the “sanctity of life” of helpless prisoners still trapped without charge or POW designation, or already dead without consequence to their captors, in American military custody.
I noted from reading KagroX’s tweets yesterday (he was in the room at the time of this “joke”) that he seemed to quickly identify the bastard who made the crack about “I’ve been to Guantanamo, and this is worse” as Dennis Cardoza of California, Democratic “Blue Dog” member of the Slaughter Rules Committee. [And I think we hear Rep. Virginia Foxx of North Carolina - Republican member of the Slaughter Rules Committee - giving a hearty, gleeful chuckle in the background. She, about what makes our nation great and unique, earlier in the meeting: "Our Judeo-Christian heritage, capitalism, and freedom."]
Gregg, thank you.
The times grow darker and darker. Monsters in the government.