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	<title>Comments on: H.R. 3962 Health Care Bill Passes</title>
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		<title>By: hazmaq</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/11/07/h-r-3962-health-care-bill-passes/#comment-2011880</link>
		<dc:creator>hazmaq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;...taking away womens right...&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

I feel horribly duped after I worked my ass off to turn my Congresswoman around.  We succeeded.

For the House leadership - (Steny Hoyer, is this from your late night blood sucking??)to bring two bills to the floor that force Democratic women in particular to chose between womens rights v. health care for all-some, was an unconscionable ploy, knowing for sure as they must have, that the Stupak Amendment would pass for sure and the health care bill -maybe, maybe not.

Nancy - I trusted you and was so proud of you. 

Now you Harry Reid and Obama have chosen to stand up for and represent the devils of our society and not me, and sure as hell not the majority of  women in this country.  SHAME!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;&#8230;taking away womens right&#8230;&#8221;</em></p>
<p>I feel horribly duped after I worked my ass off to turn my Congresswoman around.  We succeeded.</p>
<p>For the House leadership &#8211; (Steny Hoyer, is this from your late night blood sucking??)to bring two bills to the floor that force Democratic women in particular to chose between womens rights v. health care for all-some, was an unconscionable ploy, knowing for sure as they must have, that the Stupak Amendment would pass for sure and the health care bill -maybe, maybe not.</p>
<p>Nancy &#8211; I trusted you and was so proud of you. </p>
<p>Now you Harry Reid and Obama have chosen to stand up for and represent the devils of our society and not me, and sure as hell not the majority of  women in this country.  SHAME!</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/11/07/h-r-3962-health-care-bill-passes/#comment-2011879</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;what excites me is that it single payer&lt;/blockquote&gt;

me too. immediately sent my email in to volunteer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>what excites me is that it single payer</p></blockquote>
<p>me too. immediately sent my email in to volunteer.</p>
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		<title>By: libbyliberal</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/11/07/h-r-3962-health-care-bill-passes/#comment-2011876</link>
		<dc:creator>libbyliberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abortion lost as an individual, constitutional right.  Another reason to be wearing a black armband in this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abortion lost as an individual, constitutional right.  Another reason to be wearing a black armband in this country.</p>
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		<title>By: otchmoson</title>
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		<dc:creator>otchmoson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Inquisitr--

I&#039;m NOT young (62) but share your disenchantment with &quot;progressives.&quot; I came late to the political arena, and feel more neophytic that you. I&#039;ve written; I&#039;ve contributed; I&#039;ve participated . . . and like you, am impatient for real change. Despite the many &#039;shades of gray&#039; that represent society, it appears our two-party system ONLY represents black-or-white perspectives. Perhaps to salvage what remains of my sanity and mental acuity I should return to my knitting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Inquisitr&#8211;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m NOT young (62) but share your disenchantment with &#8220;progressives.&#8221; I came late to the political arena, and feel more neophytic that you. I&#8217;ve written; I&#8217;ve contributed; I&#8217;ve participated . . . and like you, am impatient for real change. Despite the many &#8216;shades of gray&#8217; that represent society, it appears our two-party system ONLY represents black-or-white perspectives. Perhaps to salvage what remains of my sanity and mental acuity I should return to my knitting.</p>
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		<title>By: Username</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/11/07/h-r-3962-health-care-bill-passes/#comment-2011833</link>
		<dc:creator>Username</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Inquisitr here. I have been predicting this from the beginning. I also predict the final final bill will be weaker than what we have now, with the possibility of the Stupak amendment being ripped out (in exchange for &quot;progressive&quot; votes). Dog and pony show. In the end, even &quot;progressive&quot; Democrats still identify as Democrats and have an allegiance to their party. If those running the show pressure them enough, they fall in line. When it comes down to the end, most of them will support it. Expect Grayson and Dean to defend this bill now, though they were talking tough against weak health care reform before. Again, they want Americans to vote Democratic, they want their party to succeed and to keep their jobs, so they will sell this thing just like all other Democrats hoping to win/keep support for the party based on the optimistic way it will be portrayed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Inquisitr here. I have been predicting this from the beginning. I also predict the final final bill will be weaker than what we have now, with the possibility of the Stupak amendment being ripped out (in exchange for &#8220;progressive&#8221; votes). Dog and pony show. In the end, even &#8220;progressive&#8221; Democrats still identify as Democrats and have an allegiance to their party. If those running the show pressure them enough, they fall in line. When it comes down to the end, most of them will support it. Expect Grayson and Dean to defend this bill now, though they were talking tough against weak health care reform before. Again, they want Americans to vote Democratic, they want their party to succeed and to keep their jobs, so they will sell this thing just like all other Democrats hoping to win/keep support for the party based on the optimistic way it will be portrayed.</p>
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		<title>By: beth meacham</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/11/07/h-r-3962-health-care-bill-passes/#comment-2011828</link>
		<dc:creator>beth meacham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It exists.  It is privately funded. It is called Planned Parenthood of America.  They operate women&#039;s health clinics in every state, and they offer birth control and first trimester abortions as well as other gynecological services.

Send them money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It exists.  It is privately funded. It is called Planned Parenthood of America.  They operate women&#8217;s health clinics in every state, and they offer birth control and first trimester abortions as well as other gynecological services.</p>
<p>Send them money.</p>
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		<title>By: marxmarv</title>
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		<dc:creator>marxmarv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every third party vote is a tiny shift in the Overton window and another anomaly for which Rahm will need to make up an excuse around this time next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every third party vote is a tiny shift in the Overton window and another anomaly for which Rahm will need to make up an excuse around this time next year.</p>
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		<title>By: Inquisitr</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/11/07/h-r-3962-health-care-bill-passes/#comment-2011733</link>
		<dc:creator>Inquisitr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>27.

And I&#039;m tired of every single thing I do being for waste.  I campaigned, I donated, I made phone calls for the election and all the way thru.

So please don&#039;t tell me I&#039;m just young and I need to do more.  I&#039;ve done more than every 50 year old I&#039;ve met.

and I&#039;m tired of people going back on their words.  You really think more progressives in office will matter?  We couldn&#039;t even get the ones who said they would block it to keep their word.

They are cowards.

I&#039;m happy that you&#039;re &quot;old&quot; and you know if you just give the system a chance it will work.

I don&#039;t see that.  I see a system that no longer work, even if we had 400 Progressives in it.  I keep trying to play within the system, and it&#039;s broken.  

I&#039;m not campaigning anymore, I&#039;m not donating anymore.  I&#039;m done with Democrats, all of them.  I&#039;ll vote Green or communist.  It may be a wasted vote but at least it&#039;s not a vote for some politician who will lie to me to fleece my money.

You feeling good about that money you donated to the progressives to vote no?  I&#039;m not and if I could ask for it back I would.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>27.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m tired of every single thing I do being for waste.  I campaigned, I donated, I made phone calls for the election and all the way thru.</p>
<p>So please don&#8217;t tell me I&#8217;m just young and I need to do more.  I&#8217;ve done more than every 50 year old I&#8217;ve met.</p>
<p>and I&#8217;m tired of people going back on their words.  You really think more progressives in office will matter?  We couldn&#8217;t even get the ones who said they would block it to keep their word.</p>
<p>They are cowards.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m happy that you&#8217;re &#8220;old&#8221; and you know if you just give the system a chance it will work.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see that.  I see a system that no longer work, even if we had 400 Progressives in it.  I keep trying to play within the system, and it&#8217;s broken.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not campaigning anymore, I&#8217;m not donating anymore.  I&#8217;m done with Democrats, all of them.  I&#8217;ll vote Green or communist.  It may be a wasted vote but at least it&#8217;s not a vote for some politician who will lie to me to fleece my money.</p>
<p>You feeling good about that money you donated to the progressives to vote no?  I&#8217;m not and if I could ask for it back I would.</p>
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		<title>By: Hmmm</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/11/07/h-r-3962-health-care-bill-passes/#comment-2011682</link>
		<dc:creator>Hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re young, aren&#039;t you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re young, aren&#8217;t you?</p>
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		<title>By: Inquisitr</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/11/07/h-r-3962-health-care-bill-passes/#comment-2011662</link>
		<dc:creator>Inquisitr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry Jane, but I don&#039;t think you have any clout anymore.

Where were all the progressives you rallied?

Where was Grijalva and the Progressive Caucus who said they would vote no to you?

I&#039;m all for single payer, but what are you going to make us do?  More letters, another money bomb that won&#039;t mean anything?

I&#039;m done with this.  You need to get some radical action going.  Because you can&#039;t make deals with these people, you can&#039;t make them do it by marches and petitions.

So I want to know, what&#039;s going to be so different this time?  Because unless you have something radical it&#039;s not going to work.  Revolution is the only option left.

but why should I believe you when all the promises made on your site were empty?

Start the revolution and I&#039;m in, but no more petitions or money bombs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry Jane, but I don&#8217;t think you have any clout anymore.</p>
<p>Where were all the progressives you rallied?</p>
<p>Where was Grijalva and the Progressive Caucus who said they would vote no to you?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for single payer, but what are you going to make us do?  More letters, another money bomb that won&#8217;t mean anything?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m done with this.  You need to get some radical action going.  Because you can&#8217;t make deals with these people, you can&#8217;t make them do it by marches and petitions.</p>
<p>So I want to know, what&#8217;s going to be so different this time?  Because unless you have something radical it&#8217;s not going to work.  Revolution is the only option left.</p>
<p>but why should I believe you when all the promises made on your site were empty?</p>
<p>Start the revolution and I&#8217;m in, but no more petitions or money bombs.</p>
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