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	<title>Comments on: Glenn Beck Was Right!!!</title>
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		<title>By: roxsteady</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/11/06/glenn-beck-was-right/#comment-2010258</link>
		<dc:creator>roxsteady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gives a whole new meaning to the words CRACKER BARREL! This Grand Wizard of an organization should remove the sheets and pillow cases from their heads and take a good look around this country. The shrinkage their experiencing isn&#039;t just between their legs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gives a whole new meaning to the words CRACKER BARREL! This Grand Wizard of an organization should remove the sheets and pillow cases from their heads and take a good look around this country. The shrinkage their experiencing isn&#8217;t just between their legs!</p>
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		<title>By: msmolly</title>
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		<dc:creator>msmolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t remember WEBN, but maybe it was. I remember the fireworks on the river, simulcast with music on TV. Cincinnati is very conservative but it really was a great place to live. Pretty surroundings, decent weather, great activities at the river, a great classical music station. I worked at UC for 3 years. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t remember WEBN, but maybe it was. I remember the fireworks on the river, simulcast with music on TV. Cincinnati is very conservative but it really was a great place to live. Pretty surroundings, decent weather, great activities at the river, a great classical music station. I worked at UC for 3 years.</p>
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		<title>By: spocko</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/11/06/glenn-beck-was-right/#comment-2009887</link>
		<dc:creator>spocko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah. I don&#039;t think Grayson is the one who will sue although he has the money. I actually contacted a LGBT group to see if they would support Kevin Jennings in a defamation case. I was told he didn&#039;t have good &quot;optics&quot; for a case. Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah. I don&#8217;t think Grayson is the one who will sue although he has the money. I actually contacted a LGBT group to see if they would support Kevin Jennings in a defamation case. I was told he didn&#8217;t have good &#8220;optics&#8221; for a case. Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: Loo Hoo.</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/11/06/glenn-beck-was-right/#comment-2009886</link>
		<dc:creator>Loo Hoo.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I call ‘em Road Scholars.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So clever, SD!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I call ‘em Road Scholars.</p></blockquote>
<p>So clever, SD!!!</p>
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		<title>By: jayt</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/11/06/glenn-beck-was-right/#comment-2009885</link>
		<dc:creator>jayt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>night, Rev. Always a pleasure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>night, Rev. Always a pleasure.</p>
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		<title>By: Loo Hoo.</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/11/06/glenn-beck-was-right/#comment-2009883</link>
		<dc:creator>Loo Hoo.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah.  I can&#039;t believe Obama, Pelosi, Reid, et. al. are just taking this with no fight back.

Hopefully, something&#039;s coming tomorrow.  *dream?*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah.  I can&#8217;t believe Obama, Pelosi, Reid, et. al. are just taking this with no fight back.</p>
<p>Hopefully, something&#8217;s coming tomorrow.  *dream?*</p>
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		<title>By: RevBev</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/11/06/glenn-beck-was-right/#comment-2009880</link>
		<dc:creator>RevBev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peace...all my local news is about Ft Hood.  Seen enough. 

A good part of the story is about the woman officer who took down the shooter. A genuine hero and getting wide praise...still in the hospital. What a week.
Good night</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peace&#8230;all my local news is about Ft Hood.  Seen enough. </p>
<p>A good part of the story is about the woman officer who took down the shooter. A genuine hero and getting wide praise&#8230;still in the hospital. What a week.<br />
Good night</p>
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		<title>By: TheLurkingMod</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/11/06/glenn-beck-was-right/#comment-2009879</link>
		<dc:creator>TheLurkingMod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gregg Levine is upstairs!
&lt;a href=&quot;http://firedoglake.com/2009/11/06/late-night-bachmann-terror-overdrive/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Late Night: Bachmann Terror Overdrive&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gregg Levine is upstairs!<br />
<a href="http://firedoglake.com/2009/11/06/late-night-bachmann-terror-overdrive/" rel="nofollow">Late Night: Bachmann Terror Overdrive</a></p>
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		<title>By: jayt</title>
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		<dc:creator>jayt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Fox is counting on the fact that they usually attack people who are public figures and won’t sue.&lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t watch fox so I honestly don&#039;t know.

Have they been going after Alan Grayson?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Fox is counting on the fact that they usually attack people who are public figures and won’t sue.</i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t watch fox so I honestly don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>Have they been going after Alan Grayson?</p>
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		<title>By: spocko</title>
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		<dc:creator>spocko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Unfortunately, the next right-wing media star who suffers massive any consequences for one of their fans going on a killing spree will be the first.

We wouldn’t have Beck if there had been a first.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Exactly. 

I remind people about the impact that Carol Burnett had on The National Enquirer. 

One thing that the work showing that Fox is not a &quot;press entity&quot; that their hosts are NOT journalists and they should not get the &quot;press exemption&quot; are doing is putting FOX outside of the media protective bubble.

Sure they will keep using it and sure their lawyers will try and say that the standard for defamation should be as high for Glenn Beck and Fox as for the New York Times, but my feeling is that EVEN if Fox is tried using the New York Times v. Sullivan standard of &quot;actual malice&quot; in some case they will Lose. Just like Fox lost the Bono swearing case.

The rest of the media will treat Fox like they are one of them, (like they did recently with Obama and Fox) but the general public is getting the idea that Fox is different. Even with the slogan they are NOT journalists. 

I think the time has come for a massive defamation case. What bothers me is that all the people who are so quick to defend Fox and the host. I think the reason was stated very clearly yesterday by Rupert Murdock in his Q1 conference call. &quot;They think that they might be next.&quot;

The media HATE defamation cases. That is why they have developed conventions like &quot;allegedly&quot; and do the stenography stuff, but Fox doesn&#039;t do that. Fox is counting on the fact that they usually attack people who are public figures and won&#039;t sue. They are counting on the fact that they will be held to the same standard as the New York Times. 

One of the ways to get the media to support a defamation case is for the Fox people to be sued by a journalist at the New York Times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Unfortunately, the next right-wing media star who suffers massive any consequences for one of their fans going on a killing spree will be the first.</p>
<p>We wouldn’t have Beck if there had been a first.</p></blockquote>
<p>Exactly. </p>
<p>I remind people about the impact that Carol Burnett had on The National Enquirer. </p>
<p>One thing that the work showing that Fox is not a &#8220;press entity&#8221; that their hosts are NOT journalists and they should not get the &#8220;press exemption&#8221; are doing is putting FOX outside of the media protective bubble.</p>
<p>Sure they will keep using it and sure their lawyers will try and say that the standard for defamation should be as high for Glenn Beck and Fox as for the New York Times, but my feeling is that EVEN if Fox is tried using the New York Times v. Sullivan standard of &#8220;actual malice&#8221; in some case they will Lose. Just like Fox lost the Bono swearing case.</p>
<p>The rest of the media will treat Fox like they are one of them, (like they did recently with Obama and Fox) but the general public is getting the idea that Fox is different. Even with the slogan they are NOT journalists. </p>
<p>I think the time has come for a massive defamation case. What bothers me is that all the people who are so quick to defend Fox and the host. I think the reason was stated very clearly yesterday by Rupert Murdock in his Q1 conference call. &#8220;They think that they might be next.&#8221;</p>
<p>The media HATE defamation cases. That is why they have developed conventions like &#8220;allegedly&#8221; and do the stenography stuff, but Fox doesn&#8217;t do that. Fox is counting on the fact that they usually attack people who are public figures and won&#8217;t sue. They are counting on the fact that they will be held to the same standard as the New York Times. </p>
<p>One of the ways to get the media to support a defamation case is for the Fox people to be sued by a journalist at the New York Times.</p>
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