
Siegel's father-in-law in 2008
My father-in-law has brain cancer. He is a good man. He is the type whose hands are (sadly too often) filled at the end of a stroll with trash he picked up on the way. He has helped others in need, whether friends (doing all too many renovation and repair projects) to strangers (a pencil portrait of my better 95+% as a child was someone-without-money’s payment for extensive dental work). He is a good man. And, the prognosis isn’t good.
Not surprisingly, my better 95+%, my mother-in-law, my other in-laws, their friends are not especially joyous about facing this.
Yet, they face it with a sort of calm that is rarely seem in America when a family faces a major medical crisis. To date, there has not been one iota of discussion about financial challenges. There is no stress of looking at check-book balances, no fearful whispers about mounting medical bills, no distress over potential financial bankruptcy, no extended phone calls with insurers battling to get a test covered or to see whether a physician in system. In fact, the only discussions of money have been comments about how ridiculously low the bills are and why it really isn’t worth the time to seek reimbursement for supplementary insurance programs.
In this stressful time, my father-in-law and my mother-in-law are absoutely free of financial tensions from medical costs.
Sadly, perhaps, for my children’s future, this isn’t due to great family wealth. (They are solidly middle class.) Nor have they unlocked the key to some super-secret executive-based insurance program.
The reason for calm is simple: my father-in-law is French.
It isn’t because that French people are inherently calm and reasonable people, shy and reticent to get into an argument. (Sigh, actually the reverse. Here’s a good cheat sheet to prepare for an argument.)
No, the absence of fiscal tension results from basic public policy: universal coverage.
As with all French residents, my in-laws have health-insurance. When necessary, they simply go to get taken care of. In this public-private system, they have costs to bear (such as that few Euros charge for visiting a doctor) for treatment but those costs will not overwhelm a family’s budget.
The French provide for universal coverage at a per capita cost far lower than America’s spotty and unequal medical system.
And, the French have much better health care results.
Considering my father-in-law’s situation has made me wonder: is one reason for those better results the lower tension due to the universal coverage?
Does universal coverage make it easier for my father-in-law and other ill people to focus their energy on getting better rather than pouring over (if Americans lucky enough to have it) health insurance paperwork?
Does the universal coverage and lack of financial pressure make it easier for my mother-in-law to focus on her husband’s health? And, does the near absence of insurance paperwork and bureaucracy make it less likely that she, herself, might get sick?
My blogging focus is on energy and environmental issues. Within that, I am intrigued (and frustrated) by our failures to analyze adequately costs and benefits. And, I am always searching for those win-win-win-win solution paths that address the complexity of the real world, identifying interactions and building on them. It seems that the ‘tension relief’ factor of (single payer, please…) universal coverage is absent from the US discussion. Tension Relief is, however, a factor worthy of note and consideration.
As a note, this is not a call for sympathy about my father-in-law. I hope, for his grandchildren, that he beats medical odds for a long time to come. When he does die, whether soon or many years from now, the world will be a lesser place. As written above, he is a good man who makes the world better through his actions. But, by his own words, he has had a good, long, and full life. He has seen all his children succeed beyond his dreams, he has seen them all married, and had the chance to play with his grandchildren. And, he lives in a system that allows him to face his medical challenges without fear for his, his wife’s, or his children’s financial futures.
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Thank you Adam, it’s a wonderful story. Really appreciate you sharing it.
Excellent post. Thank you.
A plain, common sense argument for universal coverage.
Best wishes for your FIL.
I believe I have seen more than one study showing increased stress levels as at least a partial cause of lowered immune systems, leading to more illness.
So I’d say the reduced stress of not having to worry about the financial aspect HAS to be one of the few positives in this sad story.
So — the latest saga (just learned).
He loves to be a ‘handyman’ and work on things. He cut himself yesterday when doing some work and the anti-coagulants made ‘the blood go everywhere’ according to my mother-in-law. Ended up with a hospital visit and a big bandage … and my mother-in-law, evidently, tell him to stop playing with sharp toys.
It seems that stress makes all medical problems worse – at least from what I read. And so hard on loved ones. This is a very touching story and I’m sorry that your family has to go through this. Someone should write a book with the sad stories like this to make Americans realize what our people are going through. I hope that your FIL lives a long and happy life.
The reason for calm is simple: my father-in-law is French.
hey, mine too. vive la securite sociale!
thank you for sharing your family’s story Adam – your common sense take juxtaposed with Boehner and loons droning on in the background about the dangers of universal care -oy
the very best to your FIL and family
If we wish to speak of a “sad story” that speaks to the financial issues, see Jerome a Paris’ discussions of his son’s illness (for example here and the Socialist Healthcare Horror Story).
There is a major difference, imo, between someone who has lived a full life who contemplates an illness / dying and a child facing a major illness. The second is truly “sad”.
MSNBC is reporting that Wall Street employers are receiving H1N1 vaccine before at risk population. Someone in the delivery system understands how things work in amerika.
Good thing your FIL is there instead of here. I do hope he is there for you and your family for a long time more.
Demo cratic house plan will help us some, the Repulican plan not so much.
This is the way I interpet theirs:
The Republican Plan – If you are sick we will let stay sick. If you don’t like your current insurance plan you will soon like it even less
I agree, there’s a difference. Despite their strident support of the unborn, the religious right doesn’t seem to care about children suffering from problems that might be solved not only with good, timely health care but lots of money for research.
Thanks for sharing a touching and thought-provoking story. The French system allows patients to focus on the important factors. I agree that there probably is a component of good health in the absence of unnecessary stress.
Best to your father-in-law and the rest of your family in this trying time. My father-in-law passed away earlier this year due to brain cancer. If I can offer a ray of hope to you & your father-in-law, my father-in-law did very well up until the very end; only spent a few hours in the hospital; and his dying was easy. That he was quite elderly made it somewhat more tolerable.
My father-in-law was covered by medicare, but he also had excellent supplementary insurance bc my mother-in-law used to be a teacher (in the USA). She is still under an “old time” teacher’s pension, plus full health care benefits (sadly, these are going by the wayside, I believe). So they also had little *additional* stress brought on by having to deal with lack of money or coverage or whatever.
But according to teabaggers, none of the rest of us deserve to be cared for in similar fashion because anymore… ???? I dunno.
And sadly, I now know one person who has died recently bc he & his wife lost their jobs, lost their health insurance, and the husband had no ability to pay for medical care. Frankly, W’s claim to the contrary, I don’t think you can even get health care in the emergency ward anymore (not that it was ever a good solution). My friend went to emergency, where he was told that he was not “sick enough” and to go to urgent care. Urgent care wouldn’t see him bc he didn’t have enough money. This person had a respiratory problem that was, quite likely, easily treatable, but he died within 2 weeks.
Did anyone say: Death Panels? ‘Scuse me, teabaggers, but they exist already in this country where – in your weird, sick fantasies – we allegedly have “the best health care in the world,” but ONLY if you have the money to buy it.
Sorry for the rant; best wishes to your family.
Why am I not surprised? If New York were flooded a la New Orleans FEMA would rescue the Wall Streeters first. We can’t have any interruption in the flow of capital between the free traders.
In other news, Sen Boxer (D-CA) voted a climate bill out of committee sans Republican members presence. One Dem voted No because he wasn’t allowed to add an amendment. Call the fuckin’ waaaaahmbulance.
We could certainly learn from the French. And today the Pukes are saying at the health care Tea Party that “This bill is the most Anti Freedom Bill ever” (Boners words)
I am fortunate to have the VA with only small co-pays for my Meds. Although I did have to use Stanford Medical Center for the Liver Transplant program and had to get on Medical. But at least I knew that my treatment would be covered and it wouldn’t break the family budget to badly(I had to stop my consulting). Fortunately it turned out I didn’t have the Cancer they had been saying I had for two years and I Don’t need the transplant. What a relief after being there for the transplant and then being told oops you don’t have Cancer… What an emotional roller-coaster it has been for all my family. But at least it didn’t break the bank. I feel every citizen should have the same coverage as the VA provides.
It is sad to see so many pukes take the side of greed and tell the unfortunate FUCK YOU DIE and do it quickly. So you don’t cost them any money…
Best wishes for your wife’s Dad. I share your hope he is around for many years.. We need every good person we can get.
First off, best wishes to your family, especially your father-in-law.
Secondly, this shows how inept and/or complicit so many of the Democrats have been throughout all this, because if a few more stories like this penetrated the national consciousness, this “debate” would have been over months ago. Hell, decades ago.
Another sign (see my comment at #16) of how inept and/or complicit so many of the Democrats are: How often do you hear a pro-public-option Democrat use the word “freedom”? That was the first thing I thought of when I read this post: A Siegel’s FIL and MIL are FREE from having their futures ruined over the cost of this ordeal. Not having to think about going bankrupt over medical bills is a form of FREEDOM. What’s so hard about that concept? What’s so hard about saying it?
I should also share a story my cousin who is a Nurse Practitioner about a trip to France she took. The lack of stress she saw in the family she stayed with really impressed her. Even though their life styles were not very good they had no stress about any medical issues at all. Needless to say she is all for single payer especially HR676.
Actually it makes some level of sense. After all, it seems the swine would be predisposed to catching swine flu.
Thanks, ASiegel, and may living stay good for your family, and your FIL pass easily on when the time comes. I just was looking at my local noon news, where about 100 protesters are collected outside the studio in Dallas, protesting on behalf of Bachman, against ’socialized medicine’. I can’t be mean enough to wish on anyone what they wish on all of us.
Plus ça change, plus c’est pareil.
What is it among the far right in particular that prompts such contempt for things French . . . at our own peril, I might add.
Thanks for your story here. Both my parents died within the past two years. Hospice was great and helped us all.
I hope that your FIL has many more good years.
…and unwittingly on themselves. They refuse to believe that they’re one major illness away from ruin.
Good point about FREEDOM. Universal coverage (single payer, please) would also provide other key FREEDOM elements. For example, how many potential entrepreneurs have not set off to create a business due to a need to key health insurance? FREEDOM to innovate.
By the way, the French system (to date) provides much greater freedom of choice than what most American insurance programs allow. Don’t like your doctor, walk down the street and simply see another doctor — don’t need to check whether they are in your insurance system, don’t have to register a chance in your PP (primary physician), just simply need to pay your bill. From my exposure, the French system provides far more FREEDOM OF CHOICE OF MEDICAL PRACTITIONER than what the vast majority of insured Americans encounter.
Wouldn’t you know that it would be Baucus, the bestest dollars industry ever spent.
Sounds like one way to cut costs by 2/3.
You assume they have more capacity to make connections than I do. After all, they’re pushing the very ideology that brought on the present disaster in so many areas of life, and still insist that is the solution. No.Smarts.
Does the pharma industry advertise in France like they do here, trying to manipulate patients into demanding certain medications?
Stupid is a condition.
Ignorance is a choice.
*g*
Point. Sure hope it’s not catching.
The cost of living in France is probably one-third what it is here.
Remember that they walk in with a far lower cost, as their education is (nearly) free.
As well, that “net” truly means something. French “net” income comes after all the social charges, which includes their own health care and pretty decent disability/retirement coverage. Thus, French net has much greater value than US net.
I have to believe that the teabaggers have the capability to reason and think critically. That they choose not to is just beyond me.
Aren’t there excellent schools which are free as well? A lot of family expense here is providing private schools, as test scores in the public school population are dismal and dropping.
Here;
http://static.crooksandliars.com/files/uploads/2009/04/teabagger1_190b7.jpg
Are you sure?
I think that it is an ability that can atrophy with non use.
This is a wonderful post and I just want to say thank you. Why can’t Americans understand?
Well, we can get into lots of discussions about the differences between FR and US, with what both sides can learn from the other. The French educational system, imo, writ large does a better job of preparing children for “knowledge” through ‘public school’ years (High School) while, when it works right, US educational system does a better job of preparing children for life-long learning. And, imo (not just, but imo) the US university is much stronger — with a serious caveat in that education is not a significant financial burden for most French (public university (the vast majority) fees are basically nominal).
And, by the way, the French system is more even than US, but there are plenty of areas (imo) with good to excellent public schools in the US, even if parents still choose to send kids to private schools in these areas.
Viva la France !!!
Judging from Ruth’s pic at 35 I’d have to say the dude spends a lot of time in front of the tube ingesting glucose-based food products. Prolly hasn’t had an original thought in decades.
FTA “In this public-private system, they have costs to bear (such as that few Euros charge for visiting a doctor) for treatment but those costs will not overwhelm a family’s budget.”
My brainstorm of an idea: Universal coverage by a health care tax of a percentage of one’s income at a rate that ‘will not overwhelm a family’s budget.’ And, to win the support of the regressives, make it a flat tax! We all know how they love the flat tax.
Blue Texan’s regularly scheduled post is ready: “Michele Bachmann Leads Health Care Protest on Capitol; Teabaggers Arrested”
Come on SD you must know by now that people like that feel the they can only think about what their “Tea Party” says they must think about…
Original Thought is s sin according to their rules.
Ah, I get it now. Original thought is original sin. Sex and thinking, the two greatest evils of all time. I need a drink.
As you say, we could go around in several areas, it’s just my impression that our educational level has declined radically in recent times, while in FR and pretty much in EU as a whole, they are pushing upwards. But I live in a rural area, where good grades do not result in good SAT test scores.
Warmest regards, Adam. My mother also has brain cancer. Started chemo and radiation today, on her birthday.
Thank you, Adam.
Would that Obama –even Michelle — would come here and read it.
How can “Our President” remain so intellectual and “detatched”? Doesn’t he hear these stories?
As Lawrence O’Donnell said on MSNBC some time ago, the Democrats should have started, when health care reform was defeated in the 90’s, to educate the American public about the real issues. Then, when this “opportunity” [Dem. president + [in theory, at least] Dem. Congress came along, there would be public support for change, and an understanding of the need for it.
But no, Dems were all too busy with NAFTA and repealing Glass-Steagall.
I was glad to read your piece Adam. There are many studies that point to stress inhibiting the body’s ability to fight illness and that it will create illness. Stress Kills. I would research and add more sites but I’m just too sick. I only have Medicaid (Thank-y’all. Really.) so it’s substandard care for me. Call me saddened. It is difficult to know my country wants me to just go away and die. I won’t go away until they peel my cold bones from the keyboard, too bad for them.
I would also like to add that experiencing a strong safety net allows us to relax and gain in a greater sense of our value, which is so necessary to thrive, Maslow and all.
When our country says it’s ok that 45,000 people die every year from lack of care, the meta message is that some don’t deserve to live and they/we can just go die, too bad for them/we. IMHO the current rampant immorality and evil of this message creates suffering for us all. To devalue one person is to devalue all.
Blessings and Peace.