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Alleged shooter Army Major Nidal Malik Hasan
Lt. General Bob Cone is giving a press conference at Fort Hood, TX, and has confirmed that the alleged shooter, Army Major Nidal Malik Hasan is alive. He was shot at the scene, but was rushed to surgery. He is now out of surgery, and Gen. Cone, though refusing to comment on his condition, has said that he is stable and “death is not imminent.”
A “female first responder” was herself shot at the scene–she was originally reported killed, but Gen. Cone has confirmed she has come out of surgery alive and stable. This female was the one that is reported to have shot Maj. Hasan.
The Virginia born, 39-year-old Hasan is a mental health professional with expertise in disaster psychiatry and combat stress. He was transfered to Ft. Hood in July; previously, Hasan was stationed at Walter Reed Army Medical Center.
Also in this presser: most of those killed and injured today were military personnel, but two of the casualties are civilians.
Though others were questioned today, the General seemed to believe that Maj. Hasan was the only shooter.
Death toll still at 12. Though Hasan was originally included in that total, another victim has died.
Major Hasan has not spoken to investigators (I cannot go as far as some and say he “will not” talk).
Gen. Cone reported that Hasan had two weapons; one was a semi-automatic. I believe I heard the General add that they were not military issue, but I will have to review tape to be sure. (Update: “There is no indication that they were military weapons,” said Cone.)
Statesman.com has pictures from the day’s events.
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That was the most important part of the news conference.
stunning comment
If this story holds up, things could get ugly.
An unusual degree of sense from Sen. Cornyn.
“High capacity handgun in a confined area, the first responders did a great job to prevent more carnage” FBI dude on Rachel.
As well as confirming he had an automatic assault weapon. That explains the amount of wounded and killed.
I don’t know how quickly we’ll know of his motive, if at all, once he obtains counsel he’ll be told to keep quiet I’m sure.
Kudo’s, major judos to the female first responder who took him down and it’s wonderful to know she is still alive as well.
This is going to take a long time to unravel but I am quite proud of hearing how the soldiers so quickly took care of the wounded. I know how extensively they are trained for that.
Didn’t Bill Maher say that too?
Yep. And high probabilty that govt will try to coverup, if true.
I don’t think it’s as sinister as you seem to. He’s in the Army, where you give up most of your rights to privacy. Check with Raven if he shows up.
(add paragraph break, which EDIT won’t do.) Mashed “submit” before I realized Raven was here…
No, it was a semi-automatic handgun. The military does issue 9mm’s now so it could be considered military but it was not an automatic.
didn’t the general say that they were not military weapons?
Did you click the link? The dude may have written that suicide bombers are freedom fighters (paraphrase).
Yes, I’m thinking that he’s thinking that people are thinking M-4′s or 16′s when they say “military weapons”.
That’s not what I interpreted as being the “ugly” part. I thought that would be the general crackdown that would result if Hasan was associated with any terrorist way of thinking. After all, if the U.S. military, with all its checks can’t prevent a sleeper from getting in, imagine what they think they must do to the civilian pop to prevent the same.
Cornyn was a judge and an AG prior to becoming senator.
-G
That hasn’t stopped him from being an idiot. Hell, Paul Broun is an MD!
We need to start a pool on how long it takes for some geek to come up with the website, if it exists. Cache that sucker and the govt can stonewall all they want.
In the Army, privacy is what happens to corporals that screw up.
And sergeants own the rights to all the privacy in the Army, usually expressed very directly: “Your &$% belongs to me, soldier!”
I do not know if you saw the piece….the General gave great praise for how well the soldiers responded to take care of the wounded and emphasized how much training they have for that kind of response. He credited those skills/training for there not being more deaths.
I only looked at the headline, so I thought that the concern was over the reviewing of web posts per se, hence my comment. Off to read the whole thing (which I should have done from the git go…)
Funny, one interviewer noted that at hood no one works on the weekends without express permission from the CG.
IANAG. So I hope someone who is, is working on it.
Reminds me of the conversation last night about ptsd.
Yeah, I agree. But in a case this grave he at least seems to have set loony juice down for a moment of sanity.
Can you imagine sitting in a dentists chair and just before slipping under seeing Orly Taitz coming at you with a drill?
As for Broun…..as kooky as they come.
-G
Also, a graf or two before your quote:
So we still know not much…
And he’s right up the road.
Thank you for the correction. I knew it wasn’t military issue but I left out the ” semi “. I stand corrected and thank you for the clarification.
I am STILL reading Nixonland and in the part about Arthur Bremmer they talk about how mad the Nixon boys were that they couldn’t get to his apartment and plant commie literature after he shot Wallace.
Thank you
This guy sounds more nuts than terrorist. Six years at Walter Reed and leaves with a poor performance evaluation? What took ‘em so long? I don’t know about the active military hospitals but VA hospitals have a tendency to protect bad docs, why, I’ll never really figure out. Like everything else there are bad shrinks, too. Man, do I know that. *g* But like Jim said, this could get ugly if the Army knew about the website and just let the issue slide.
Great… Now I’m going to have that recurring dentist nightmare EVEN WORSE. (Just joking — my dentist nightmares tend to do with the bills…)
The vast majority of mass shootings (come on, get real, *all* killings) are committed by 20-50 YO white men. And yet middle-aged white men get the racial profiling PASS.
White middle-aged men are the default.
Everyone else is defined by their religion, gender, ethnicity when things go awry.
Not anymore. Take that Pat Buchanan.
Yeah, and the dude’s got a diary up at Seminal about the same shit. I think the diarist at DKos that he links to and he are the same guy.
It sure as shit ain’t just the VA. You’ve heard about the “blue wall” that cops will put up to protect one of their own? It’s got nothing on what the medical establishment will do. I’m too cheap to pay money to the NYT to pay for their coverage, but I remember this story about the twin gynecologists very well.
Here in San Francisco on KSFO Brian Sussman is playing up the Muslim angle.
He is hoping to hear that he shouted Allah Ackbar, but he will wait. For now he will just speculate on the topic for two hours. Then a caller called up and said that he heard that the guy was democrat and a big Obama supporter who was disappointed in Obama.
(I’ve often wondered why we don’t make note of the Political party and who they supported for President after all other horrible crimes. I wonder what the ratio of Conservative to liberal.)
So there you have it. The right wing declares it’s Obama’s fault.
Then the caller said, “They have been saying that the tea partiers were going to be the problem but they haven’t been” (conveniently not commenting on the people killed in Tennessee and at the immigration center.)
They then said that the tea partiers were the ones beaten up at their events.
I’ve often wonder if that is something
Thanks. That’s a gem that I didn’t remember from my first read.
He hasn’t answered you either time has he?
Hell, Paul Broun is an MD!
allegedly – strict proof is needed.
I say that he’s taken the Hypocritical Oath, rather than the Hippocratic.
Disgusting. So I guess that Timothy McVeigh was a disgruntled Democrat?
It is unlikely that Hasan would be questioned today. If he was in surgery with a general anesthetic, he would have been intubated and unconscious. You are talking about hours before he could be extubated and brought back to full consciousness.
I have to wonder if Bush or Cheney feel ANY remorse at all for what they have put our young men and women through in these past 8+ years. Suicide is up and they are still understaffed for professional medical care for PTSD.
This is a horror in more ways than one. They have created such a quagmire of problems I don’t know if we’ll ever find our way out of it but I’m tired of our military paying the terrible price for their crime.
Jesus, don’t read it again! I’ve been on it for 3 months (about 8 minutes a day)!
Two answers, no and hell no.
I don’t know how long specialties take, so no insigt into why he was there so long.
And if he were hearing stories from PTSD victims, I for one would go nuts pretty quickly.
Military knowing about website, if they did, and if it’s his, is what I think they’ll try to cover up, if true. (3-ifs in one sentence, maybe a record?)
Nope. If they are one and the same I also wonder why he’s bringin’ this shit up 10 years after he last worked for Vet Services. Hidden agenda, methinks. OTOH DB’s hatred of the military is right in yer face.
In the military, according to reports tonight, it’s not just the protection of bad docs, it’s the fact that they’re so underdoced that they can’t afford to lose a bad one.
Also, sounds like Hasan has an “attitude” problem, which according to reports his version would be that he was being harrassed for being a Muslim. For the PTB, that would be reason enough to give him poor ratings.
Clarification on edit: I didn’t mean that he got poor reviews because he is a Muslim, but because he has a “bad attitude.”
It’s not on my list for a reread. Of the 100+ books I’ll read or listen to this year, only 2 are rereads. It takes a pretty outstanding book for me to go it again. Nixonland was good, but not that good.
Yea, I mean I worry about the phonies too I guess. The local paper is always interviewing some homeless dude claiming to be a Nam vet and they give a birthday that is wayyy out of whack. I want folks who really need the help to get it but there is some low-lifes out there. We have a well-known phony Seal here in Athens. The Seals Wall of Shame dudes got on his ass mist rickey tic.
I keep forgetting how good a news outlet BBC America is… They seem to be covering this without anything but facts.
Yeah, we’ve got some too but they got straightened out pdq. Ain’t no 40yo Nam vets.
Blair did his best to wreck it, but I guess it’s hard to kill an organization that has had such a long tradition.
SD & Raven,
One of life’s ongoing misfortunes is scumbags who take advantage of programs meant for those who really need them. Those scumbags are used by the Rs as reason to trash the whole program.
Ft. Hood and Killeen, which it surrounds on three sides, have a shared history of tragedy: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2009/11/tragically_killeen_has_been_th.html
They’ve segued from the Ft. Hood situation to the “resignation” of Mahmoud Abas (sp?). Heard anything about that today on our media? Didn’t think so…
The back story on this event, to me, is
(1) The number of suicides at Ft. Hood over the past few years
(2) The miss-use of the National Guard and the repeated use of Stop-Loss in order to field sufficient numbers of troops in an illegal war that has lasted longer than WW-II.
We are grinding our troops to bits, as cannon fodder for Dick Cheney’s war.
The proper way to “support our troops” would be to
(1) Bring the National Guard troops back home, and return them to their intended duties
(2) End the “Stop-loss” policy.
Bob in AZ
I’m in the Bay area too….he ussed to be the local weatherman and then he turned into this right-wing freak. Very weird.
Clinton used the same tactic to kill welfare. He embraced the welfare queen drivin’ a caddy meme with open arms.
Juan Cole & democracynow. Heh.
What is odd about the bad job evals is that I also read Hasan was recently promoted. The two do not seem to go together.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/06/nidal-malik-hasan-fort-hood-shooting1
Incompetent people promoted, in the Army. Say it ain’t so.
I was gonna say that but they don’t count when one refers to US media. Actually, DN! is the US media, the rest of this crap is infotainment. So, the answer is yes, we have heard it in the US media.
LOL. Kick ‘em upstairs but in another building.
NYT reporting stable condition.
On the bright side the teabag bullshit is buried too.
Sorry I commented and ran (first horse blanketing night of the fall and it took some organizing finding missing straps and dealing with a 9 month old filly). Yes, the “ugly” part I was talking about was if it really was the shooter who made the web post that appears to glorify suicide bombers. I found the whole post earlier. I’ll try to go back and get a link for those who are interested. As mentioned upthread, it’s far from proven at this point that he was the one who posted it.
Edit– the original post appears to be here:
http://www.scribd.com/events/18979728?user_id=9207429-nidalhasan
Or deploy his happy ass.
Had yer back.
World Serious is over an’ I’m goin’ to leap into my tree at a decent hour.
Be good to yourselves, and all other living things.
Namaste
Me too, peas.
Yes.
But I have a personal story of what exactly welfare reform was supposed to do & did it spectacularly. My cleaning lady in the country was a kind of poor white trash (excessively pejorative shorthand). Her husband got jailed, she cleaned houses off the books and collected welfare for her 3 kids. As she is smart and incredibly hard working, she saw the welfare-reform-writing-on-the-wall, got a practical nurse certificate. She is now working for the VA, has travelled, and has a much expanded horizon. I’m the only one she still cleans for, a 25-year relationship, because we adore each other.
Were it not for welfare reform, she never would have done it. It was for people like Debbie that the plan was crafted. The bad part was that many, who may have been just as resourceful as Debbie, but who had even worse life situations, ended up even worse off.
Maybe this disaster/tragedy can start a loud, outraged conversation on the abuse of the troops and what that means for all of us. I have a friend doing Vet counseling….the toll if horrific, and we all (anyone paying attention) know that is the case. Send Jenna and Baby Liz…..if going to Iraq is so worthwhile.
I saw that. Thanks.
Since we don’t know the facts yet, I’d hypothesize that the promotion was based on shortages of shrinks in the military. Hasan is an incredibly educated person. We’ll see what emerges.
Yeah, I’d say if he’d been at WR for 6 years and close to a year or more at Ft Hood there’s the likelihood this would be his first deployment.
Teabaggers will be crying in their tea about how a raghead upstaged them.
Makes one wonder how a guy has no problem shooting down 43 people, but then doesn’t have the guts to put one in his own head.
The horror is that with this economy more and more poor young adults will end up in the military.
He may have intended to….or thought he would be taken out.
Sorry to be cynical, again, tonight on this tragedy. But the more likely outcome is that Hasan will be scapegoated as a Muslim radical, and the other troops will feel even more compelled to keep their emotional distress a secreat.
or ran out of ammo, I guess.
Rachel, or one of her guests, said it was to be Hasan’s first deployment.
I’d say if he and the female first responder exchanged fire he didn’t have a chance to shoot himself.
We need to do as much as we can to support the Muslim community. I am not sure how to go about this.
Suicide by cop is a well known phenomenon. In those cases, the suicider has enough ammo, but somehow can’t pull the trigger on himself. Don’t know why, but there it is.
If you have never shot a person how could you shoot so many without hesitation?
I said earlier I wondered if this was an extreme variation of “suicide by cop.”
Well, it’s a real uphill battle in the U.S. Israel lobby doesn’t make it any easier. Nor does the more secular outlook of the lefties, myself included. Supporting a religious oriented community is not on my radar screen. Supporting the oppressed is. Thus a conflict that makes it difficult to make it a high priority.
And I replied that was the first thought that entered my mind.
I think you got it….being alive now may be the worst punishment of all. How tragic. I hate to think how I would react if I or a dear one was about to go to Iraq…..
Good Q, to which I don’t know the A. I observe that it happens however, so for me it’s in the category: I don’t know why, but it is.
The more info that comes out on this, the more disturbing it gets. It appears he showed signs of being unstable, and may have been assigned the deployment as punishment for speaking against the war. If that is the case, the military brass in charge is to blame, also. The people “punished” were the people murdered by this man as well as their families.
There will be twists and turns to this story that we don’t know yet. So on some questions, it pays to wait to see.
But that is like saying most of your neighbors are not worth protecting because they are likely religious (Christians). Anyway most Muslims are not radical. They are more like our neighbors. Would you only protect non-religious peeps? Are you that exclusive?
The military still has the death penalty. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Army went for it at a General Court Martial. If he survives.
Colour me gone.
Namaste
And how many people in the military, do you think, show signs of instability that the military overlooks? They need every warm body they can get.
A real investigative reporter, if s/he could get the records, would go thru the enlistment applications, interview the dubious cases, and find out how many were passed thru despite warning signs. In the current economy, perhaps not so many, but during W, when recruiting was a problem, I’d guess a lot.
You still here…Angela is so peaceful..she does not know of this sad day. She says Goodnight to you and yours…..
Agree, especially in Texas.
Of course…more tragedy.
You have to be unstable to agree to kill people in other countries who have done nothing to provoke our aggression.
I didn’t mean to imply that, though I understand why you took my comment that way. What I meant to say is that I get energized by oppression, but I don’t want to defend a community on the basis of religion. So the two are in conflict, meaning less inclined to defend a community that defines itself by religion.
I know most Muslims are reasonable people.
That’s why Muhammed Ali went to jail.
Good. I like that response. For the record I am not inclined to be a believer.
What was his remark….like none of those Asian people had done anything to him? What a hero!! Thanks for the reminder.
Muhammed Ali may have poked other people in their bodies with great force but I still like him. Cannot help myself.
I recently (within the last year) learned that the military has changed training for grunts. (SD & Raven chime in if I got it wrong.) Apparently it is very difficult to get ordinary people to kill other people. So the basic training is now oriented to kill, kill, kill, i.e., desensitation training. IIRC, in WWII, for example, only about a third of soldiers could actually point a gun at another human being and pull the trigger. Not good for the military.
There is some information on my brother-in-laws site here:
http://myweb.lmu.edu/ahussain/
For example, Islam and Human Rights Fellowship Program, towards the bottom.
Amir Hussain wrote Oil and Water: Two Faiths, One God.
You could email him if you have any questions.
The military creates lethal weapons of our young men and women.. Just as with a gun. Sometimes the weapon is pointed at the wrong object when the trigger is activated. .
Will do.
To paraphrase, “…the yellow man never did nuthin to me…”
Demi, Thanks….that’s very helpful.
Going to jail for being a pacifist…..Nuts….maybe Ali will contribute/$$ to this man’s defense fund….
This was posted on rawstory today, what does it mean? Were the soldiers making out their wills yesterday? Is that what set him off? No matter what set him off I think the war mongering military will play the fear factor.
http://rawstory.com/2009/11/report-7-killed-fort-hood-army-base/
Looked it up-”I got no quarrel with the Vietcong.”
Mary and Bev…tell him Deborah Moore sent you. He’s a very nice man and I’m sure you would each benefit from chatting with him. My sister is familiar with FireDogLake.
Why are we talking about 12 dead when we have killed that many each day by:
1. Not having decent heath care.
2. Killing innocents in other lands.
Justice should be had for the dead at Fort Hood. The same should be true for other murders. This includes murder by spreadsheet. And murder by spreadsheet includes the deaths of our soldiers for the profits of the powerful.
If you are affirmatively against all, and I mean ALL state-sponsored military aggression, that is fine.
If we were not entangled in the Middle-East (or anywhere else on the planet), I would support using a half-million US military personal in Africa to stop the genocide and unimaginable suffering at the hands of the Janjaweed, and annihilate the government in the Sudan.
On such a mission, how would you react to soldiers picking and choosing those battles based on pacifist tendencies, or religious beliefs, or race, or pro or anti-government sentiments?
The provocation you describe is open to wide interpretation.
And really, I am only asking.
No. I think there are times when force is necessary.
Great family pic. I sent him my Q about textual analysis of the Quran.
late night is a couple flights upstairs
and virtually none of the powerful have skin in the game.
Webb is allowed to speak on this.
Ah, ha! I had forgotten about that.
PS I just called my sissy and she told me Amir is at a convention in Montreal until next week. But, she said he would reply to any questions when he returns.
My Q is not top priority. So whenever. I’ll be much pleased & surprised if he responds. Not a personal remark, just to indicate that my Q is obscure.
I would be surprised if he Didn’t answer. He’s into education. It’s what he loves and does. One of the links on his site is to something on Tavis Smiley. He’s such a kind man, smart! and very soft spoken. A lovely man and he sure loves my sister.
Given what we DO no, as mostly fact, it sure would lean me to believe this guy snapped from abuse for being a Muslim.
Having said that, so many others take abuse and DON’T snap.
What made this guy snap? If you believe that’s what it was, and I do, so far.
What causes a guy to snap?
Well, if I was in the military, and was taking abuse for any reason, and the military wouldn’t let me out?
I’d be REALLY FUCKING PISSED!
But I’m the kind of guy that would walk into my CO’s office, and say I quit. Cuff me. Put me in prison.
I’d like to think I wouldn’t cross the snap line and waste lives that had NOTHING to do with my problems.
And I’d like to think I’d never hold my CO, or those above him/her responsible for the actions of others who abused me, or wouldn’t let me out.
But then, I’d like to think a lot of things. I have no illusions that under duress and stress I wouldn’t snap.
I want to think I wouldn’t, but I’d never promise I wouldn’t.
You don’t make promises you can’t keep . . .
Great comments from many on this issue.
And I really, really want to thank ANY one of you Pups who didn’t jump at shit, and waited for info to come forth, and didn’t propogate ANY manner of theory’s of shit that were not true.
There are some in here I really, really respect on this issue.
Sadly, a few ran off with their mouths at times in this thread and others.
But they have done that on OTHER issues, too.
The Raven’s and Dragons, out in full force and taking it to the truth.
Thank you.
Where did you get the potential insight that deployment to Iraq was some kind of punishment for speaking out against the war? Had not heard that before your comment.
Who treats the Psychiatrists? Isnt that the occupation that has the most sucides? We should hear more abt his harrassment suit and his attorney. Some thing made the guy go beserk.
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/posted/archive/2009/11/05/348903.aspx
I’d say we have less to be concerned about then let’s say Ruby Ridge, Waco,
Oklahoma City, or the inside job of the 21st Century ’9/11′. Protocol has been set in motion on a Military Reservation. Whether the man drank some El-cia Kool-aid or he thought he was going to be Malcom X’d, Janet Reno is not running the FBI around with tank siege weapons looking for more suspects. The really sad thing is we know this will happen again, but we really do have the power to do something about it, it’s not to extend the Patriot Act, and refusing us citizens’ Health Care-including Mental- either.
Very well put. One person in tens of thousands, or a hundred thousand, will snap … and we will never understand why in many cases because many of them kill themselves, perhaps to end the perceived agony.
Brain chemistry? Use of prescription drugs at the wrong time and in the wrong amounts or the wrong combination attempting to treat a severe mental/emotional malfunction? Paranoia? Who knows? Who could know or even speculate intelligently? Yet, anyway.
My own son, a wonderful and loving person, took a knife to his neck and not even he knows why. I was there holding him covered with blood when his eyes rolled upward. He survived. It puzzles him and unfortunately shames him to this day. We think it may have been because it shifted the “hurt” away from his internal agony and “changed the game.” It may have been because he had recently changed medication and was increasing the dosage under doctor’s care and he went haywire, traumatically.
We can speculate that this killer was a sleeper cell member. We can speculate that he self-medicated to the point of losing touch with reality. We can speculate that he felt victimized and hated his lot in life, although that hardly explains anything because a sizable percentage of human beings feel that at times in their lives and manage to internalize it, or manage to get help, and carry on without doing harm to others.
So to use this incident either as: (1) a condemnation of the military, or (2) a platform to stand on and preach one’s philosophy of war, or (3) evidence that mental health professionals are themselves “troubled” by nature (moreso than the rest of us), or (4) evidence of laxity on the part of authorities, who themselves have probably never before enabled something like this to happen…… it’s all just pointless. We will know more, someday, and perhaps soon. But this is not the time. We have shreds, not mounds, of information and insight. Nothing more.
It’s obvious, now, that he should not have been in the profession he chose. I wonder how many others knew that, based on this actions, and didn’t know how to or didn’t feel “authorized” to take steps toward getting him out of the field of mental health counseling. And how THEY feel today, if some were in that position.
Is this Dr. Malik Hasan campaigning for McCain related to the shooter at Fort Hood? Part 2 video, 5 minutes, July 8, 2008
now the country is in serious trouble but at least for now that isnt the way it is portrade.
we have an energy problem, our standing in the world has declined, our power in the world has declined, we have inflation, subprime…
but when you examine that closly all these problems are going to go disappear like in smoke and anybody who wins the next president….
(problems) which is going to be solved in the next few months and who ever is in power at that time is going to say I solved it, I solved it.
2:50 we are 300 million people, we can send 5 million people.
4:10 oil is going to drop when the new President takes over and he is going to take the credit.
the price of oil should be $50 or $60, the rest is fluff.
4:16 the point I am making he the next party who wins the election is going to be in power for the next 24 years because these people will say they solved our problem, we trust them.
And a lady at the end says we have a call to action, we have to fund the McCain campaign.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-US&q=%22'malik%20hasan%22&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv#
Did he choose to be a psychiatrist or was he ordered to be one? I don’t know if one can choose which type of doctor to be or does the military choses it for them?
Is this the doctor?
http://firedoglake.com/2009/11/05/breaking-fort-hood-alleged-shooter-now-confirmed-alive/#Respond
sunshine, your links are not working for me.
I found your text and picture here too: http://www.pakistanlink.com/community/2002/Mar/08/05.html
Here’s the youtube link.
Is this Dr. Malik Hasan campaigning for McCain related to the shooter at Fort Hood? Part 2 video, 5 minutes, July 8, 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0hYZhRECCU
Is this the same family?
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.pakistanlink.com/community/2002/Mar/08/seeme%26Malik.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.pakistanlink.com/community/2002/Mar/08/05.html&usg=__1SZN25bGpuj0jdvZ-rq5oLLbx4E=&h=245&w=350&sz=44&hl=en&start=33&um=1&tbnid=yv-yGniroHehOM:&tbnh=84&tbnw=120&prev=/images%3Fq%3D%2522%2527malik%2Bhasan%2522%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-US%26sa%3DN%26start%3D18%26um%3D1
I don’t know if this is the same doctor.
http://www.westword.com/2008-01-17/news/is-this-muslim-republican-mr-right-or-the-big-cheese/2
Page 1 of a 9 pg article
http://www.westword.com/2008-01-17/news/is-this-muslim-republican-mr-right-or-the-big-cheese/1
sunshine, the founder of HealthNet seems to be named Malik M. Hasan, whereas the shooter is named Nidal Malik Hasan. Different name, different job, different person. Good question about whether it’s the same family, but evidently it’s a pretty common name.
Becoming a psychiatrist requires 8 years beyond college… 4 years of med school and 4 years of residency. Nobody would go through all that without having a choice of specialty for the residency cycle. It sets the course for one’s professional life, and someone interested in psychiatry would not risk being told he was going to become a urologist or dermatologist instead.
Hasan is the son of Palestinian immigrants and former Vinton residents Malik Awadallah Hassan and Hanan Ismail “Nora” Hasan, according to the Roanoke Times. Nora Hasan ran the now-defunct Capitol Restaurant on the Roanoke Market. Hasan’s father owned the Mount Olive Grill and Bar and the Community Grocery Store on Elm Avenue. Both parents are deceased.
Thanks for clearing that up for me.
hmmm, thanks for pointing that out.
TerryOtt, I hadn’t read any thing on his parents, thanks.
This soldier spoke anonymously and says the place has been grim because they don’t know why they are being deployed or what the goal of being there is.
http://www.truthout.org/11050912
Ft Hood presser on now: confirmed that there was just one shooter; death toll climbs to 13.
this is one of the most tragic incidents that i can imagine
How can we trust the military when they are still lying to millions of us.
What did they have to gain by lying? Certainly not trust.
Would they have gotten away with saying this was a terror atck and we need a 3rd Patroit attack if SWAT and FBI wasn’t there? This is crazy gop run territory. I keep thinking abt Susan Lindauer (Andrew Cards cousin) that was imprisoned and drugged on Carswell Airforce Base in Tx.
How can we or PBO trust these people?