Evening Eureka

Good evening newtonusr

Howdy, Eureka.

Thinking about katy, mostly. It ain’t on all fours with the blues, and she doesn’t use the lyric I learned in the last verse… but here’s Sinead O’Connor doing “She Moves Through the Fair.” I haven’t thought about that song in years, but hearing about Katymine made it come back to me…

Hi BC, Nice to see you. Love Sinead… wonder what she’s up to these days.

I have not heard this.

Yes, me too. I first heard this song in Howth, outside of Dublin. Thanks BC

or, Howth

ES, thanks for this one.

Hey there ES! And all y’all firepeeples.

Anytime..)

hi kelly

rbg – good evening. nice to see you in a thread.

How very right on. I can’t play the song on my computer but I can sing off key with a few major note changes in my head. *g*
It’s hard. Katymine was a wonderful voice of calm. I’ll miss that. Especially with my hot temper. I admire people who can calmly yet firmly make an important thought be known. Katymine had that gift.
Peace

Hey hey, Name change. Did you lose a bet? /s

It’s a haunting song, perhaps a little more in the lyric I learned (which refers in the last verse to a dead lover).

I suppose it’s the mixolydian mode that does it…

It’s strange how events bring back songs. I’d like to be a folk singer in my next career, I think.

I would like to live and love in Dublin in my next life! Phil Cunningham is my best,most loved singer/songwriter.

You and me both.

Noooo! I got on the freedom train, totally out now. In all facets, blogs, comments, etc.

It’s very liberating, although I must say it’s tough to re-invigorate the snark. The videos, too.

One finds one must be more clever and witty if one cares what one’s mother-in-law is going to say about what one said on some blog or facebook. Never cared what me dad thought, but then, there I go with teh stoopid.

I hadn’t heard Sinead do it, either. Her voice is right for it, but I got out of listening to folkies when I was in college.

I’ve gotten back into it more of late, when I came to realize that it’s about the only consistent voice of protest and social commentary in music today. Or maybe it’s the only one I can stand to listen to … Rap/Hip Hop etc have the social commentary, but Jeebus — for me, listening to it is like being beaten over the head in iambic pentameter while a drum machine thumps under it.

I never knew Sinead. Just skipped past her somehow.

The videos too? You mean your music videos or the flip cam man at the protest videos?

She’s worth checking out at any point in time… timeless wonder she is.

So I find the greatest hits of…
Or is there a seminal disk to get?
Does she have an “Abbey Road”?

I’m lucky. I can say really stoopid manure and my mother-in-law thinks it’s brilliant. What’s crazy is that she’s a smart woman … my own parents, on the other hand.

Dad takes the Bill Cosby viewpoint: I brought ya into the world, and I’ll take ya out if I have to.

Well, the protest videos will just be what they are. That’s me flirting with journamalism.

It’s the other opinion-y ones, you know, like back in primary days when I called John McCain a War Mongering Asshole, via Barbie’s mouth.

I’ll just need to be a might more, oh, clever or insightful. Or something.

The screed thing though, it’s just so fun….

Just heard about our beloved katy. Sob!

Yep.
Hi Sunny.

perhaps dear katymine is listening to Norton Buffalo, in person so to speak.

I like them all, but I would start with the first…. it’s mere pennies for a CD at Amazon.

I’m partial to Universal Mother. I’m sure there are other opinions, too.

She appears on the Chieftan’s Long Black Veil, an album I’ve had that’s grown legs twice now.

Hi Sunny.. Don’t miss the very nice post Suzanne did for katymine today.

We’ll all miss her, but she’s no longer in pain.

In 1969 my grandmother died of metastatic breast cancer that had invaded her bones. At the end she was in horrible pain that the doctors didn’t control well at all. I prayed that Katy got better care than she.

On the way via iTunes.
Thanks.

As far as Sinead is concerned, this performance is the one that sticks out for me the most; WAR.

Wow, sounds like quite a memorial show in Oak town.

Universal Mother had some gems on it, such as this mournful and haunting post-break-up song:

This is the Last Day of our Acquaintance

Epic

I’m not sure that O’Connor ever turned out an album that was a generally agreed dog. That’s one of the marks of a better-than-good artist, I think.

Another is disagreement about which works are not up to the usual level.

Her political antics drove me off, in the end. Yeah, I want pithy observation of the human comedy, but there is some level of propriety that has to be met, too.

punaisette’s high school water polo teammate lost her mother to cancer today.

All these Sinead songs take me back to Haight Street. Great times.

Her political antics drove me off, in the end.

agreed. a little bit of strident goes a long way.

you’d have to search far and wide to find a voice more pure and crystalline.

Good night, dear friends.

bonne nuit, BCT

Agreed, nothing like her out there now.

As for the antics, I can appreciate what you and BC think about them, but they served a good shock purpose for many, imo. Many who wouldn’t have thought about these things any other way.

The only antic of hers that I am aware of was some business about tearing up a picture of the Pope, a pursuit I am singularly not opposed to.

In context, I think Code Pink is on the real mission from God.

@ BCT and Punaise; I understand your point of view, but I will respectfully disagree with you.

I think it’s perfectly fine for an artist to be political, and totally in-yer-face. You don’t have to like it, or support that artist. But the function provided usually ends up moving the Overton Window around, and most of the time, to the benefit of the lovers of progressive values.

I was thinking the other night about when I was an ACT-UP person, then in the “middle years” as I call them, and then now, where I’m being all ACT-UPish again, but with the benefit of 20 years inbetween.

What strikes me the most, is if I had not been all uppity and rude back in ‘87, ‘88, ‘89, well, it would have taken longer for the Ryan White Act to pass, and it was only last week that the Hate Crimes law passed.

I really don’t think I slowed things down by being “rude” or “intolerable.” In fact, I don’t think these things would have happened AT ALL, had I and a jillion others not been rude or intolerable.

good point. this collaboration (more Gabriel than O’Connor) nibbles around the edges of that sentiment.

LOL re pink. Kelly linked to that SNL / Pope youtube above.

wow, i looked away from it 10 seconds early

Thank you es. Suz did good.

((((((((((((((((((((((((katymine))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

hey, more power to artists who polemicize; I’m just not convinced it makes for better music as a general rule…

Yup.. happened fast.

Hey everybody. What’s this new “Related Posts” thingee at the bottom of posts lately?

Yes, I blather on, but hear me out.

When YOU do not have rights, and YOU have to fight for them, YOU have a really different attitude about those rights.

There is terrific art out there on this very topic; specifically, Beethoven, and timely, by this 2003 Met Opera version.

“O Welche Lust” is the famous “Prisoner’s Chorus” from Fidelio, which might as well be called “Gitmo of the Napoleanic Era.”

You don’t have to understand German, you just have to watch the prisoner’s faces (and listen to the music) as they progress through the chorus. There is Something They Want that They Don’t Have, which would be “Freiheit”/”Freedom.”

For gay people, this is the situation. Get Me Outta Jail, ok?

And really, it’s not a single issue thing. There’s so much that this in-yer-face-art applied to in 1800 and thereabouts, just like it does today.

Beethoven was so RUDE! He refused to eat in the kitchen with the help! (As Mozart actually did.) He demanded a place at the table, the dirty fucking hippie!

Well… An old friend just published a book…. Mistress of the Misunderstood.

We’re going to distribute it tomorrow.. I know it’s going to be a wonderful day full of laughs.

On that note (((((Katymine))))

Good night firedogs.

Don’t know.. not sure I like it…)

nite eureka

I like it for recurring series-posts. Go straight to Eureka or Suzanne’s last 5 music or toon threads…

I hadn’t heard this song before, though I am a huge Cohen fan. Great song… His new (old) album just came out a week or so ago, Live from the Isle of Wight… It is a good glimpse of the man when he first got popular. He states to the crowd that “You aren’t strong enough yet”. I think that applies to us now, though I’m not sure what it is going to take to find the strength to overcome the apathy and the procrastination imbedded in the left. We have the data, the intelligence, and the lack of motivation… Is that the “unholy trilogy”?