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The bankruptcy court in the Southern District of New York wiped out a $400,000+ mortgage, leaving the house with no debt on it, but a screwed up title. It’s a sign of bigger things to come, and a situation which deserves continued attention. As reported by The New York Times:
One surprising smackdown occurred on Oct. 9 in federal bankruptcy court in the Southern District of New York. Ruling that a lender, PHH Mortgage, hadn’t proved its claim to a delinquent borrower’s home in White Plains, Judge Robert D. Drain wiped out a $461,263 mortgage debt on the property. That’s right: the mortgage debt disappeared, via a court order.
This is a potential test case which fleshes out both case law and my theory about mortgages assigned and registered by service companies. A while back I told you about a case in Kansas where the judge opined,
Indeed, an assignment of a mortgage without the debt transfers nothing. 55 Am. Jur. 2d, Mortgages § 1002. Thus, the mortgagee, who must have an interest in the debt, is the lender in a typical home mortgage
The Kansas judge said if the interest in land is separated from the note, a foreclosure cannot be processed on the house, though the debt still exists and the note becomes an unsecured note.
And I wondered if that meant that
Understand the possible implications of this. If other states take the same approach as Kansas, that means the splitting of the debt from the mortgage note effectively cancels the “mortgage interest” that is the power over the real property and converts the debt to a simple unsecured personal debt just on a promissory note. Which means they couldn’t take your house in foreclosure, though they can sue you personally on the debt, just like any other unsecured creditor can. I am assuming, without going to deep into it today, that as a personal debt, it may be dischargeable in bankruptcy. But we will have to wait for a few test cases to prove this.
You’ll recall that in a mortgage situation there are two important documents: the loan note, which is a promissory note, and the mortgage document itself which secures the promissory note by giving an “interest in land,” sort of like a lien. In the SDNY case, the servicer of the loan contended that the promissory note had been transferred to the party for whom the servicer worked. However, the debtor’s lawyer pushed back on the claim, demanding proof that the servicer’s client actually owned the promissory note:
In answer, Mr. Shaev received a letter stating that PHH was the servicer of the loan but that the holder of the note was U.S. Bank, as trustee of a securitization pool. But U.S. Bank was not a party to the action.
Mr. Shaev then asked for proof that U.S. Bank was indeed the holder of the note. All that was provided, however, was an affidavit from Tracy Johnson, a vice president at PHH Mortgage, saying that PHH was the servicer and U.S. Bank the holder.
Among the filings supplied to support Ms. Johnson’s assertion was a copy of the assignment of the mortgage. But this, too, was signed by Ms. Johnson, only this time she was identified as an assistant vice president of MERS, the Mortgage Electronic Registration System. This bank-owned registry eliminates the need to record changes in property ownership in local land records.
Another problem was that the document showed the note was assigned on March 26, 2009, well after the bankruptcy had been filed.
Now a New York bankruptcy judge has extinguished a debt because the alleged holder of the promissory note, U.S. Bank, cannot prove that it actually owns the note.
I have been highly critical of Mortgage Electronic Registration System (MERS), the mortgage registry service company established by the mortgage industry to electronically record loan assignments. MERS is often shown in public records as the holder of the mortgages they listed, or as the nominee for the mortgage holder. While claiming to be a wonderful, super-efficient filing system, my anecdotal experience has been that MERS appears to be a big disorganized warehouse for paper never been properly filed or catalogued. MERS seems to know what paper it took in, but not what happened to it thereafter. As MERS handled mortgage assignments, the link between the the original lender, the current true owner of the debt and current servicer of the debt often became unclear.
Until recently, homeowners did not realize that they should avail themselves of the “prove the mortgage” laws that exist in most states. Rep. Marcy Kaptur of Ohio has been encouraging homeowners to demand foreclosing parties “prove the mortgage.”
These laws force the entity wishing to foreclose on your house prove both the debt and the interest in land by bringing the ORIGINAL blue ink signature versions into court.
If they cannot prove them, they have no standing to sue you. This provision only works if the homeowner makes a formal demand for it. There is usually a provision that allows for the bank to put in a lost or destroyed paperwork affidavit, but courts are finally waking up and scrutinizing those affidavits, which are usually so weak factually as to be virtually worthless.
All of which means this SDNY bankruptcy case is BIG news for beleaguered homeowners, and may give them the kind of leverage they need to finally get their lenders to renegotiate their loans in a good faith way.
I’m sure the appeal from the SDNY decision will be closely watched by many.
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Hi Cynthia…
Did I miss this – how is it that the mortgage holder can not prove their claim? Using MERS absolves the holder of maintaining any paper on the transaction?
Wow.
This could be big.
BIG !!
heh.
Now I want a piece.
on edit:
somebody call Mary Mac !
Huh, unlike the insignificant 45,000 deaths per year due to no health care, these mortgage companies are important, and if this became a trend you would see legislation sail through both houses and signed by the President so fast the ink would still be wet on the printing when Obama signed it.
I am curious as to actually how do you bundle mortgages together and sell them. Is it like take the paperwork and then getting them all together into one box and selling it to someone for some value? How do they determine the sale price of each individual mortage and is it face value or discounted? If it’s discounted how can the debt remain as the original?
Gee. Whoever could have anticipated that banks might try to game the system to their advantage?
Rep. Marcy Kaptur of Ohio has been encouraging homeowners to demand foreclosing parties “prove the mortgage.”
And Rep. Alan Grayson is still “Enemy #1 on the R hit list?
gotta admit though, Grayson screwed up big time by referring to a female lobbyist as a “whore”.
That one may sink him – terrible judgment to have said that.
Which states?
I agree with Weiner. One fry short of a Happy Meal.
Whoever could have anticipated that banks might try to game the system to their advantage?
It appears that they might have forgotten a little something.
Thanks for staying on top of this. I thought this (messed up mortgage docs) could be BIG the minute I heard about it. Trouble is, most families under foreclosure threats don’t have the resources to deal with it intelligently.
I don’t think that’s going to happen. These are state law issues, and off-hand I can’t think of a federal hook to change it.
I don’t see the problem. Male/female, all the lobbyists are whores. IMO.
Such silly Qs. You ask as if there were any rhyme or reason behind this “financial innovation.”
In a serious vein, you should read Liar’s Poker, a fabulous book in so many respects, one of which is his description of how mortgage securitization works, back in the days when it actually did.
That’s true.
As a female, I agree. And as has been pointed out by Jon Stewart, the Rs make many more OTT statements without consequence.
Guess the cynic in me figured they would use the old “interstate commerce” clause to do whatever the banksters needed.
well, TeddySF and I were talking about that one night, and I think that we agreed that the word “whore’ is not necessarily gender-specific. But it’s nuanced.
And the general public doesn’t really do “nuance”.
Big, big mistake.
One fry short of a Happy Meal.
Don’t agree with that at all. I’m still rooting for him, this mistake notwithstanding. He’s the only person in that goddamned town looking to stir up a fight, and really – we need a fight. Harry’s promising ponies and candy – bullshit – I never believe Harry Reid. Let’s fight this mofo out in public, please.
Think of it as similar to what happens with a mutual fund. The mutual fund company purchases various stocks and bonds, bundles them into a particular kind of fund (”large-cap US stocks” or “technology stocks” or “municipal bonds”, for instance), and offers their customers shares in the bundle.
In this case, instead of stocks and bonds, the bundler puts together packages of mortgages to create the mortgage pool. Investors can then buy that bundle (or shares of the bundle, if it is set up that way), with the price based on the interest rate of the loans, the time to maturity, the class of the borrower (high or low risk?), and other factors — plus the supply and demand factors of the market in real estate investment vehicles.
There are lots of variations on the process, but this is the basic set up.
Good explanation for my thoughts, too – as a female, btw. Lobbyists are whores by definition, AFAIC. You’re right, tho’, about nuance and the general public, so it was probably a mistake.
I’m still in his corner, too.
A note is a negotiable instrument, governed by the Uniform Commercial Code, a version of which is the law in every state. It can be transferred by the holder at any price without affecting the obligation of the maker of the note to pay the balance in full. The question the post raises is whether a bank can be a holder of the note if they can’t produce the note and proof that they are in fact the holder. The SDNY bankruptcy court says no, and I have won a similar case in my court.
The Kansas case held that if you transfer the mortgage to one person, and transfer the note to another person, the note is unsecured. That too is a question of state law.
The correct terminology is “Ho’s”!
I hope he stays on the attack.
As for the size of the mistake, going underground will exacerbate it, IMHO.
I don’t know how to say this in a nice way so I will just say it. The dumbfucks who have been running Obama’s economic policy treated homeowners like shit. The big bailouts for banks were announced in their hundreds of billions and trillions. Only at the end was a program announced to help homeowners. It was far smaller and its purpose wasn’t even to help homeowners but to shore up real estate prices to help, You guessed it, the banks. Since then there have been one or two further iterations of help for banks masquerading as help for homeowners.
Almost from the start there were some who were saying that the record keeping on home loans had been so sloppy that ownership of the mortgage was going to be hard to prove. And that securitization had effectively severed the connection between the mortgage and the promissory note holders downstream. As I have said before, this was in many ways precisely what the downstream buyers wanted, a revenue stream without the hassle of dealing with the underlying asset. But the ongoing MERS controversy is bringing all this back to the fore. And the idiots on Team Obama, like Summers and Geithner, never saw this coming because they had their heads so firmly up the backsides of the financial industry that it never occurred to them how big this was or could be.
This is going to create a legal bonanza for years. Homeowners will contest. The downstream securities holders will be suing those who sold them these godawful securities. The toxic assets on bank books will become even more toxic and the banks will be even more insolvent than they already are. It is one giant clusterfuck. It is a gigantic Ponzi scheme. The degree of fraud and incompetence by all concerned is mindnumbing.
And btw I don’t think that anyone can legislate this away. That would be a post facto law. They can do it to cover future events but not past ones. I believe Goldman was a major orginator of these securities and I hope everyone who got paper from them sues them for every cent they have.
Dood !!
You know how I feel about Grayson – and I had a good time talking to you about it the other night.
You aren’t referring to “nappy headed hos” by any chance?
Now, back to the topic – this is potentially really great news.
I recall reading about a judge somehwere – not bkcy, but district judge level – who was throwing out foreclosure cases because the foreclosing companies flat-out could not come close to proving they owned the mortgage.
Back in the mid-80’s, I briefly worked for a mortgage bank on a project to straighten out their loan documentation. They hired a bunch of law students for 6-8 mos. to sort out and get corrected the mess that had built up over years, and it was a mess. I learned about mortgage-backed securities there.
MERS is something I hadn’t heard of – but I don’t see how it can substitute for having the paper and getting it recorded. That’s ancient law, common and statutory, and I also can’t see how any federal legislation, or even state legislation, could overturn all the precedent.
For a secured loan, you gotta be able to prove the security for the loan, and that you’re the holder of it.
And it serves those snotty “innovative, clever” bastards right to get hoist with their own too-complicated electronic never-mind-the-legal-details petard. heh heh.
Thanks.
Yeah, he needs to be both artful and aggressive in how he approaches this, now that he has apologized (which I regret). I don’t know how you do that, but if anyone can so it…
We need his fury.
rut-roh. Olbermann reporting that Leiberweasel is gonna vote with the R’s.
I still say he doesn’t have the balls to be the guy who is responsible for making it a 59-41 vote.
Doesn’t. Have. The. Balls.
They better make sure that anyone who challenges him on it is female, because the best way out of it would for Grayson to say to a male executive or lobbyist or Fox Newsman…
“You’re a whore, too.”
“…this was in many ways precisely what the downstream buyers wanted, a revenue stream without the hassle of dealing with the underlying asset.”
Excellent point.
And if the one small bank I worked for so long ago, before even the internet and electronic records, filing, etc., was any example, the mess is at least as big as you say.
From a personal pov:
Perhaps I should re-activate my law license….
Even in the old old days (late 1970s) banks couldn’t get mortgage paperwork right. When I showed up at the closing to buy my NYC coop, the bank (citi, iirc) had spelled my name 2 or 3 different ways in the same document. I sat at the closing & corrected it, at least in the flagged pages where I had to sign. If they couldn’t get that straight, it stands to reason that there were uncountable other errors. The only reason the system ever worked, is that no one ever challenged the paperwork.
Grayson is someone I think people should keep their distance from. He says what people want to hear, but that’s not always a great thing.
This looks like the MERS system is about as accountable and honest as lets say rating agencies.
How do you spell relief? B-a-n-k-r-u-p-t-c-y
There is a distinction between the note as evidence of the debt and the mortgage or deed of trust that secures it to the real property.
In California, most foreclosures are non-judicial with a trustee holding the right of sale on behalf of the beneficiary/note holder if the trustor/borrower fails to honor the terms of either the note or the deed of trust.
This electronic clearinghouse was set up to streamline transfers into the secondary mortgage market, which would have been fine if it hadn’t been so egregiously abused by unregulated players.
Like the demonized cramdown provision stripped out of recent homeowner mortgage relief legislation, I can see Trinity holding that gun to the Merovingian’s forehead and asking,
“What’s it gonna be, MERS?”
And now the petard is hoist…..
Now that you mention it, name discrepancies were one of the most common errors we found on that long ago documentation project.
Who did Grayson apologize to? Whores for comparing them to lobbiests? A girl can hope.
LOL. Nah, I think it was to the particular woman he was referring to originally.
She used to work for Enron – in my book, truth was Grayson’s defense…
what did he apologize for? If he apologized for the “whore” remark – good – let’s move on.
After that is behind him, no one in D.C. is safe from Grayson.
I say – go get ‘em !! Has anyone ever seen a any other Representative walking so non-tentatively into D.C. – essentially telling the established interests to go screw?
As newt and I were talking about the other evening, all Grayson is trying to do – and all he needs to do to succeed, is to pick a fucking fight.
If a fight breaks out – he wins and can walk away. The “fight” doesn’t necessarily need to include him at all – and I’m pretty sure that he understands that.
Speaking of state issues…remember this blast from the past?
Predatory Lenders’ Partner in Crime
Op-ed published almost one month to the date before Bear Stearns crashed.
Well, yes. And no.
Heh. WANS (we are not surprised).
Being young & naive, I was appalled. My lawyer just sat there and was mortified by my pointing out the problem.
Ooooops. KO just accused Lieberman of whoring to the insurance industry.
Keith just used the whore word on Lieberman!!
Frankly, I think the comparison to lobbyists gives whores a bad rep.
well, we *were* wondering when the Alan Grayson who came her 3 or 4 times would break out…. *g*
on edit: I think he done did.
Rayne, you have an incredible memory or are incredibly well-organized.
Now that you mention it, I do remember actually reading that.
And I still wonder if it had something to do with the investigation that brought Spitzer down (while all the R sex crimiinals continue refusing to resign).
Teh Goopers will bloat it into a sexist fight if they can, and will be wildly aghast if he appears in media. They have no other defense except to create as much misdirected outrage as is possible. They are pretty good at it, too.
The physical process of transferring the notes is to gather the pieces of paper, the actual notes, and endorse them one at a time, usually in blank. The notes come from a number of different mortgage brokers. They are generally priced at some kind of discount.
When they are transferred to form a CDO, there is supposed to be some due diligence. I read somewhere that there were companies that did the due diligence and did little or no work, and only sampled a few of the files. The sample got smaller because they CDO people wanted to cut costs.
My point, exactly. After all, whoring is the oldest profession. Treat it with respect, plz. Not lobbying, where nothing of human value is exchanged.
As far as post facto law, didn’t Congress pass something similar in the FISA bill that exempted previous behaviour of the telecoms from civil trials, or am I misrembering that?
Which is, as jayt said, the only good reason for him to have apologized. Case over. Move on.
Yeah. Oops.
Some (in fact probably all) of Joe Lieberman’s friends are whores.
Follow the money … nothing but the Liebermaniac’s precious bodily fluids.
I think Grayson is a really smart and principled person, so I’d like him to move up the chain. He needs to tone it down imo. I realize he’s doing bumper stickers, but he’s going to have to learn how to articulate and persuade.
Wow – where was this nurses organizer when health care reform began? Why do we need a middleman? And how the hell did R’s get away as long as they did with the meme of not putting the government between “you and your doctor?”
In Profiles in Courage one of the entries was the person who declared that the Nuremburg trials resulted from post facto laws. Can’t remember the person’s name, but it sure was an unpopular position at the time.
Lowell Field is upstairs!
State Blogs Weigh In on Joe Lieberman Filibuster Threat, “Opt-Out”
I think Grayson is who you see. Don’t hold out higher hopes for him. Be satisfied with a single D who cries foul.
Some (in fact probably all) of Joe Lieberman’s friends are whores.
Are paid friends really friends?
HELL, it is about time someone started to talk about K street to the public.
to start holding hearings on the mechanisms of lobbying.
i once had a friend in ohio. once when i was in columbus, he, his wife and i went to dinner. at dinner, he encountered an old friend and asked him to join us. it was a very revealing dinner conversation. when he learned that i wasn’t a resident of ohio, he began to talk about his “business”. he was a lobbyist for corporate interests. and he had a problem with holding his liquor. he was also a homosexual. and began to talk at length about closeted homosexuals in the ohio legislature. and how the corporations that he represented[many with close ties to the usg's intell services] used illicitly obtained personal information to blackmail ohio legislators[both homosexual/heterosexual]. the best part of his story was how his clients used him to manage “honeytraps” for the legislators, filming/recording their peckerdilloes[so to speak[.
it was a conversation that confirmed things that i had learned in two pieces of anti-trust litigation that i conducted that involved major amerikan corporations with very friendly ties to what i like to call the secret state.
one must never forget tong-sun park and the cosmo club. the kcia’s lobbyist, extortionist.
just as an indelible a memory would be lbj’s comment that he had so many “peckers in his pocket”. and how did those peckers get there. well, it must never be forgotten what good friends lbj was by the head of the amerikan okhrana, edgar hoover.
alan grayson needs to start telling the us electorate a whole lot more about how k street really operates.
Uh Hedge Funds bought plenty of chopped up home debt with loans from from the banks that made the mortgages they bought this at $1 collateral for every $36 loaned then they used that as collateral for bank loans to buy companies like Cerberus buying Chrysler or Bain Capital buying ClearChannel (home of Rudh Limbaugh).
NY is the finance Capital of the country this ruling has made the Hedge Funds and the Banks holding worthless paper.
I expect this ruling to be rushed to trial.
It’s DC, dude.
If this ruling stands does this mean Mitt Romney’s Bain Capital does not own Rush?
If this ruling stands I expect blood on Wallstreet.
You can make conduct which in the past was illegal legal. What you can’t do is make something illegal in the past if it was legal at the time. In this case you can only make it criminal going forward.
There is a long and detailed explanation of the legal basis for concluding that the trials were based on existing international law in the Alstoetter case, the Judges case. I do not think the cases violated the ex post facto principle.
Cynthia I think this might be bigger news than the bank collapse last year.
I realize he’s doing bumper stickers, but he’s going to have to learn how to articulate and persuade.
Why?
Are you really looking for just another go-along-to-get-along Representative?
People seem to be paying attention to what he’s saying, wouldn’t you agree?
Can claim neither, tejanarusa.
But I can tell you I have done enough investigative work over the last 25 months, combined with my own personal financial research, that lead me to believe that op-ed is a Rosetta stone of sorts.
The states were prevented by the White House from doing anything which would allow ready renegotiation of the mortgages. And without ready renegotiation, well, we are where we are.
Wasn’t there a pretty detailed discussion of Alstoetter and another lawyers (Nazi) case in a Christy thread last year? Apropos of Bush OLC lawyers’ memos, iirc.
The collapse of the banking system was not a separate issue.
It’s the result of the toxic mortgages finally realized at the top of the food chain.
But now you can see that the entire food chain was toxic, and it’s still held together with little more than baling wire and chewing gum.
It’s lonely work, showing your party what a little spine will get you.
50 more, please, like Alan Grayson, mistakes and all.
Hear, hear!
Right, but, well, I guess I don’t understand then how that would affect these cases, since criminality or lack thereof isn’t even an issue. These are basically civil trials and that’s why I used the FISA law (although I admit I might be misremembering whether that was part of the FISA law or not as my memory sucks these days) because they dealt with civil trials, or potential civil trials.
Anyways, sorry, IANAL, and therefore should probably just let it go. Sorry if I’m comming off as somewhat thick, lol, but I was never accused of being the brightest of bulbs to begin with. lol
Agreed same issue but this could undo all the corporate takeovers that were done over the last few years. This could bankrupt hedgefunds after all if their home loan paper used as collateral is worthless then do they give it back to the banks at the price they bought it or current value?
Do all the Hedge Fund managers have to give back their bonuses they made these deals so if the deal is not legit its their fault.
If You’ve got the Money Honey…
So why didn’t anyone tell me. Jane will be on the Rachel Show.
Jane is going to be on Rachel Maddow!
Frank
Consider yourself told
Yes. I agree that he’s getting attention and he’s being heard.
There’s going to have to be a systematic attempt to allow renegotiations of loans — which means the current White House should undo the damage Spitzer outlined in his Feb 2008 op-ed and allow the states to chase predatory lending while encouraging states to set up programs with smaller, solvent state banks to take over the new mortgages. This would shore up property values and stop the cascade due to uncertain underlying property values.
And there’s going to have to be a federal effort to regulate or altogether remove mortgage servicers like MERS; I am certain of other abuses which have undermined homeowners by other mortgage servicers, needs to be a national effort.
It’s no coincidence this crap happened under Republicans, either. Just follow the money.
Oh look, speak of the devil…
Commission Impossible — How the Angelides Commission can crack open the Wall Street scandal —- if it dares.
By Eliot Spitzer / Slate Magazine
Posted Tuesday, Oct. 27, 2009, at 12:24 PM ET
Oh, my – is he tiptoeing out from the [politically] dead?
Yeah, I wouldn’t worry about it “the market is self-correcting and will take care of itself” as Alan Greenspan said. Heh.
It’ll self-correct to the detriment of those “clever bastards” who wanted money, but didn’t really want to have to deal with the real world mortgage papers.
Seems fair to me.
I don’t recall one on a Christy post, but I and others discussed Alstoetter extensively on several of Emptywheel’s posts on torture and the Yoo memos.
the phrase is ex post facto. Look up the case of Calder v. Bull, 3 U.S. 386 (1798). The ex post facto prohibition only applies to criminal laws, not civil (even though Article I doesn’t distinguish, the S.Ct. said otherwise).
Here’s hoping the Masters of the Universe were too clever by half, that their apparent belief in the fungibility of mortgages and the utility of severing the debt from the underlying real property goes unrewarded. It would be nearly a first.
I’m coming to this post late but I wonder how much impact these rulings can have if most mortgages are foreclosed not through court actions but by an alternative procedure by advertisement. There the mortgage holder gets to foreclose by publishing an advertisement and then taking title through a sheriff’s sale. There is the right of redemption for a year but there is no way short of paying off the mortgage of reclaiming the property. At least that’s how most of them are foreclosed in Minnesota and Wisconsin. Mortgagees and their assigns only go to court to collect deficiency judgments personally against the debtors and mortgages only wind up in bankruptcy when that situation arises. Is that different in New York?
Some states require a judicial foreclosure, others don’t.
I will be doing more (a lot more) posts on this. I beleive there is one more lement to the story, and if I am right, it will be much much bigger than last year’s bank collapse.
If my theroy is correct, and I almost wishit wasn’t, it would mean that all mortgages that had the interst in land separated from the promissory note AND had the promissory note included in a pool that was divided into traunches and those traunches sold to different investors would have broken the privity of contract needed to make the promissory note enforcable.
We are not there yet, we still need a test case for that theory, but if I’m right. All of those debts would just evaporate.
So, you could end up owneing your house free and clear which is nice, but it might be a nightmare if you ever wanted to sell it. I cannot imagine how a title company would deal with it.
There will be a series of posts to develope this idea. I’m going to do a Marcy Wheeler type trip into the weeds, so it will take many short posts to avoid confusing everyone, including myself.
It’s not just banrupting hedge funds. The triple A rated traunches of the se CDOs (Collateralized Debt Obligations–and the debtsa re not just mortgages, they can be corporate debt, car loans, any loan with collateral)where mostly bought by big institutional investors like municpalities, Universities, pension funds, State Comptrollers.
You are looking at the total fianacial collapse of those kinds of institutions. This is a disaster.
Way different in NY, we have judicial forclosure here. They have to take the homeowner to court.
Somebody correct me if I am wrong, but in non judicial forclosure states can’t the homeowner sue the lender and do all this “prove the note” stuff?
I thought non judicial forclosures only went forward if the homeowner did not go to court to get a restraining order. I realize this shifts the burden of initiating a court action onto the homeowner, but I THINK homeowners have some sort of judicial relief availbale–if facts warrant it–in evey state.
Please correct me if I am wrong about this. I am not admitted in all 50 states , nor have I attempetd to (yet) to research this point.
Just what we need. New a different ways for deadbeats and freeloaders to get out of their legal obligations.
Not 100% on this, but I think the answer to your question is not always.
The homeowners didn’t break the privity of their contract with their mortgagees. Stupid, greedy banksters have only themselves to blame.
Congress will probably preempt any states that start erasing mortgages though.
**Foreclosure Fraud**
During the housing boom, lenders passed around mortgages as if they were whiskey bottles at a frat party. Notes were lost, destroyed, sold into multiple pools. Mortgages were not recorded and exorbitant fees were collected by the big firms on Wall Street.
Now that the bubble has burst, “lenders” are trying to collect on loans they do not own, in most cases never lent a dime on the transaction, have no right to, or were paid 30 times over in bailouts, insurance, credit default swaps, etc.
They are doing this because they can. They are steamrolling the courts rocket dockets because hardly anyone is contesting their foreclosures. Think about it. If you could go into a court and file thousands of foreclosures a week, and only a mere 10% challenged the authority of the foreclosing entity, what would you do if you were the greedy bankster?
The crises is even worse in non judicial states…
In almost every case these pretender lenders do not and did not own the loan. Almost all loans during the boom were securitized and it was investors that put up the money. Not the banks.
Now these “pretender lenders” are trying to steal the homes by filing fraudulent assignments, by the thousands, to process the foreclosures.
Don’t believe me? See for you yourself.
http://4closurefraud.wordpress.com/
4closureFraud
See also:
livinglies.com
http://livinglies.wordpress.com/foreclosure-defense-forms/people-players-and-resources/mers-mortgage-electronic-registration-systems/