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	<title>Comments on: Movie Night: Cat Ladies</title>
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		<title>By: Lisa Derrick</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/26/movie-night-cat-ladies/#comment-2003613</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Derrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you for your thoughtful comment. Being an urban dweller in Los Angeles, I see the advantage of feral cats on studio lots, school campuses, cemeteries, at Disneyland. But yes, I certainly se eyour point as well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you for your thoughtful comment. Being an urban dweller in Los Angeles, I see the advantage of feral cats on studio lots, school campuses, cemeteries, at Disneyland. But yes, I certainly se eyour point as well!</p>
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		<title>By: emjaybee</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/26/movie-night-cat-ladies/#comment-2003274</link>
		<dc:creator>emjaybee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 02:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is probably going to get me flamed, but: here&#039;s the deal about catch-neuter-and-release: it&#039;s not restoring nature&#039;s balance, because cats are not native to North America. And feral cats &lt;em&gt;decimate&lt;/em&gt; local bird and small mammal populations already squeezed out by humans. In Hawaii, especially, with its many rare and valuable birds, cats have been a major problem (along with, ironically, rats, also non-native).

Cats as they are now, like dogs, are not &quot;natural&quot; but a wild animal that evolved to live with us for its own survival. Very successfully so. But that means that, like us, they are also in competition with non-humanized animals.

I don&#039;t actually believe that a cat&#039;s life is worth the extinction of (more) native species, frankly, nor that euthanizing an animal that has no possible home and will either suffer or hunt vulnerable species is an evil thing to do. Certainly it is less evil than confining a cat to a house reeking of urine and feces with too many other cats and letting it die of untreated disease or starvation. 

We, as human beings, are responsible for the overabundance of cats; we created their species and imported it, and if we cannot ethically care for all of them and keep them from causing harm, then we have the responsibility of doing what needs to be done. Which may be putting some of them to sleep. When we turn away from this responsibility, we are refusing to deal with actuality, and in the long run, we are culpable.  And as hoarder stories often show, we may be causing more pain than we are preventing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is probably going to get me flamed, but: here&#8217;s the deal about catch-neuter-and-release: it&#8217;s not restoring nature&#8217;s balance, because cats are not native to North America. And feral cats <em>decimate</em> local bird and small mammal populations already squeezed out by humans. In Hawaii, especially, with its many rare and valuable birds, cats have been a major problem (along with, ironically, rats, also non-native).</p>
<p>Cats as they are now, like dogs, are not &#8220;natural&#8221; but a wild animal that evolved to live with us for its own survival. Very successfully so. But that means that, like us, they are also in competition with non-humanized animals.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t actually believe that a cat&#8217;s life is worth the extinction of (more) native species, frankly, nor that euthanizing an animal that has no possible home and will either suffer or hunt vulnerable species is an evil thing to do. Certainly it is less evil than confining a cat to a house reeking of urine and feces with too many other cats and letting it die of untreated disease or starvation. </p>
<p>We, as human beings, are responsible for the overabundance of cats; we created their species and imported it, and if we cannot ethically care for all of them and keep them from causing harm, then we have the responsibility of doing what needs to be done. Which may be putting some of them to sleep. When we turn away from this responsibility, we are refusing to deal with actuality, and in the long run, we are culpable.  And as hoarder stories often show, we may be causing more pain than we are preventing.</p>
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		<title>By: RevBev</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/26/movie-night-cat-ladies/#comment-2003273</link>
		<dc:creator>RevBev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 02:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do you assume so many of us do not know about things?  Nature, hunting, whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you assume so many of us do not know about things?  Nature, hunting, whatever.</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernDragon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/26/movie-night-cat-ladies/#comment-2003272</link>
		<dc:creator>SouthernDragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know what that is but &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tampabay.com/features/homeandgarden/article999034.ece&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fruit rats&lt;/a&gt; here are just your basic rat.  It wasn&#039;t a bite or scratch that almost killed Yang, it was the bacteria she ingested with the rat&#039;s body fluids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know what that is but <a href="http://www.tampabay.com/features/homeandgarden/article999034.ece" rel="nofollow">fruit rats</a> here are just your basic rat.  It wasn&#8217;t a bite or scratch that almost killed Yang, it was the bacteria she ingested with the rat&#8217;s body fluids.</p>
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		<title>By: eCAHNomics</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/26/movie-night-cat-ladies/#comment-2003271</link>
		<dc:creator>eCAHNomics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You clearly don&#039;t know any hunters, and if you eat meat, you don&#039;t know where it come from.

My late husband used to make fun of hunters until I pointed out to him that rock climbing (how we met) was even more bizarre.

My most environmentally sensitive friends are hunters, including my beekeeper who hasn&#039;t bought any meat for several decades.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You clearly don&#8217;t know any hunters, and if you eat meat, you don&#8217;t know where it come from.</p>
<p>My late husband used to make fun of hunters until I pointed out to him that rock climbing (how we met) was even more bizarre.</p>
<p>My most environmentally sensitive friends are hunters, including my beekeeper who hasn&#8217;t bought any meat for several decades.</p>
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		<title>By: eCAHNomics</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/26/movie-night-cat-ladies/#comment-2003270</link>
		<dc:creator>eCAHNomics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good answer. Hits all my buttons. Don&#039;t know I would have had your nerve to say it so plainly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good answer. Hits all my buttons. Don&#8217;t know I would have had your nerve to say it so plainly.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Derrick</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/26/movie-night-cat-ladies/#comment-2003269</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Derrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey sally! Thanks too! Its been one of our busiest nights--and four filmmakers to boot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey sally! Thanks too! Its been one of our busiest nights&#8211;and four filmmakers to boot!</p>
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		<title>By: Christie Callan-Jones</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/26/movie-night-cat-ladies/#comment-2003267</link>
		<dc:creator>Christie Callan-Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks so much it was great fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much it was great fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Derrick</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/26/movie-night-cat-ladies/#comment-2003268</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Derrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://catladiesdoc.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;catladiesdoc.com&lt;/a&gt;

Look forward to festival updates!</description>
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<p>Look forward to festival updates!</p>
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		<title>By: Eureka Springs</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/26/movie-night-cat-ladies/#comment-2003266</link>
		<dc:creator>Eureka Springs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the FDL Cat call.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the FDL Cat call.</p>
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