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	<title>Comments on: Erick Erickson Reviews &#8220;Liberal Fascism,&#8221; Hilarity Ensues</title>
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		<title>By: daphnechyprious</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/26/erick-erickson-reviews-liberal-fascism-hilarity-ensues/#comment-2003177</link>
		<dc:creator>daphnechyprious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 00:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or, you could say Redstate&#039;s review of Goldberg is &quot;stupid exponential.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or, you could say Redstate&#8217;s review of Goldberg is &#8220;stupid exponential.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Sally Blake</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/26/erick-erickson-reviews-liberal-fascism-hilarity-ensues/#comment-2003127</link>
		<dc:creator>Sally Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 00:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Beverly</description>
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		<title>By: BevW</title>
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		<dc:creator>BevW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sally</description>
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		<title>By: GregoriusU</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/26/erick-erickson-reviews-liberal-fascism-hilarity-ensues/#comment-2003123</link>
		<dc:creator>GregoriusU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, let&#039;s have someone as President who ISN&#039;T good at speaking--whoops, we just had one for eight years and he OKed torture, prison camps, black locations, and surveillance against American citizens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, let&#8217;s have someone as President who ISN&#8217;T good at speaking&#8211;whoops, we just had one for eight years and he OKed torture, prison camps, black locations, and surveillance against American citizens.</p>
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		<title>By: wavydavy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/26/erick-erickson-reviews-liberal-fascism-hilarity-ensues/#comment-2003122</link>
		<dc:creator>wavydavy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It makes perfect sense to Jonah and those who view him as some kind of “intellectual.” Actually, he is what passes for conservative intellectualism these days, even though the terms “conservative” and “intellectualism” would seem to be mutually exclusive.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, as a very wise man once observed:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it.&lt;/em&gt;

John Stuart Mill, letter to the Conservative MP, Sir John Pakington (March, 1866) 


http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/PRmill.htm&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It makes perfect sense to Jonah and those who view him as some kind of “intellectual.” Actually, he is what passes for conservative intellectualism these days, even though the terms “conservative” and “intellectualism” would seem to be mutually exclusive.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, as a very wise man once observed:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it.</em></p>
<p>John Stuart Mill, letter to the Conservative MP, Sir John Pakington (March, 1866) </p>
<p><a href="http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/PRmill.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/PRmill.htm</a></p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: wavydavy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/26/erick-erickson-reviews-liberal-fascism-hilarity-ensues/#comment-2003120</link>
		<dc:creator>wavydavy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think he was upset about the order of things:

1. Invade
2. Kill leaders
3. Convert them to Xtianity

This presents a problem (for some), in that it is really hard to convert people (esp. leaders!) after they&#039;re dead.  I am pretty sure Doughy Pantload&#039;s complaint was that it should go &quot;invade, convert, kill&quot; instead.

Then again, the Goopers seem to be trying the dead person conversion on folks like Jackie Robinson, &quot;Republican Hero&quot;.  So maybe it was something else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think he was upset about the order of things:</p>
<p>1. Invade<br />
2. Kill leaders<br />
3. Convert them to Xtianity</p>
<p>This presents a problem (for some), in that it is really hard to convert people (esp. leaders!) after they&#8217;re dead.  I am pretty sure Doughy Pantload&#8217;s complaint was that it should go &#8220;invade, convert, kill&#8221; instead.</p>
<p>Then again, the Goopers seem to be trying the dead person conversion on folks like Jackie Robinson, &#8220;Republican Hero&#8221;.  So maybe it was something else.</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
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		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The NDSP Platform also included:

1-2. The right to abrogate international treaties under the &quot;sovereign nation&quot; doctrine.

3. The right to colonize or occupy other nations for their resources.

4. Blood citizenship. No child of an immigrant could become a citizen. No non-German could become a citizen.

5. Those who are not citizens must live in Germany as foreigners and must be subject to the law of aliens.

6. Those &quot;declared&quot; non-citizens (minorities, those formerly naturalized, or children born within tGermany but of immigrant parent(s) could not hold public office, or vote. [Sound familiar???]

7. Jobs and food was to be prioritized to citizens as defined by the NDSP- aliens (non-citizens) must be expelled from the Reich.

8. Further immigration of non-Germans was to be prevented. &quot;All non-Germans who have entered Germany since August 2, 1914, shall be compelled to leave the Reich immediately&quot;.

9-10. The NDSP argued all citizens must possess equal rights and duties.&quot;The first duty of every citizen must be to work mentally or physically.&quot; [Note this was not universal employment...but COMPULSORY EMPLOYMENT in selective tasks].  &quot;No individual shall do any work that offends against the interest of the community to the benefit of all&quot;. [This was a community standard that excluded types of work as being &quot;anti-German&quot;...either morally or socially].

The next 8 points were their &quot;socialist&quot; [actually populist] agenda. It&#039;s not actually socialist since it denies investment or any sort of State influence on the application of the wealth other than by the laws themselves. In reality it was an effort to eradicate &quot;alien&quot; investors and to redistribute that wealth to Germans, and even German capitalists (Jews, foreign capitalists).  

11. All unearned income [ income that does not arise from work] be abolished. Prominent Jews, because of Medieval discrimination laws had become concentrated in the banking, merchandise retail and investment industries. They were thus investors in real estate, lending, and were at the core of providing capital to German industries. Their secondary profits would be eliminated as loans would be cancelled...thus benefitting the industrialist owners paying off loans.

12.  The total confiscation of all war profits.

13. The nationalization of all trusts.

14. Profit-sharing in large industries.

15. Increase in old-age pensions.

16. Communalization of &quot;large stores&quot; (these often had sprung from the Jewish haberdashers which offered &quot;credit&quot;- it was simply a redistribution of wealth to &quot;true Germans&quot;) which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, Small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.

17. Agrarian reform in accordance with our national requirements. Expropriate from the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.

18. Ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.

19. We demand that Roman law, which serves a materialist ordering of the world, be replaced by German common law.

20.  The curricula of all educational establishments shall be adapted to practical life. The conception of the State Idea (science of citizenship) must be taught in the schools from the very beginning. We demand that &quot;specially talented&quot; children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State.

21. The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young.

22. We demand the abolition of the regular [professional] army and the creation of a national (folk) army [militias designed to undertake state-directed political actions- so much for the claim that the Nazis intended to disarm the people].

23.  All editors and their assistants on newspapers published in the German language shall be German citizens.
 Non-German newspapers shall only be published with the express permission of the State. They must not be published in the German language. All financial interests in or in any way affecting German newspapers shall be forbidden to non-Germans by law, and we demand that the punishment for transgressing this law be the immediate suppression of the newspaper and the expulsion of the non-Germans from the Reich. [So much for &quot;minority-ownership&quot;]

Newspapers transgressing against the common welfare shall be suppressed. We demand legal action against those tendencies in art and literature that have a disruptive influence upon the life of our folk, and that any organizations that offend against the foregoing demands shall be dissolved. [Culture Wars]

24. We demand freedom for all religious faiths in the state, insofar as they do not endanger its existence or offend the moral and ethical sense of the Germanic race [see below comment about the Jewish religion, and which would also apply to other &quot;materialist&quot; religions or agnosticism or atheism]. The party as such represents the point of view of a positive Christianity without binding itself to any one particular confession. It fights against the Jewish materialist spirit within and without, and is convinced that a lasting recovery of our folk can only come about from within on the principle: COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD

25. In order to carry out this program we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the State, the unconditional authority by the political central parliament of the whole State and all its organizations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NDSP Platform also included:</p>
<p>1-2. The right to abrogate international treaties under the &#8220;sovereign nation&#8221; doctrine.</p>
<p>3. The right to colonize or occupy other nations for their resources.</p>
<p>4. Blood citizenship. No child of an immigrant could become a citizen. No non-German could become a citizen.</p>
<p>5. Those who are not citizens must live in Germany as foreigners and must be subject to the law of aliens.</p>
<p>6. Those &#8220;declared&#8221; non-citizens (minorities, those formerly naturalized, or children born within tGermany but of immigrant parent(s) could not hold public office, or vote. [Sound familiar???]</p>
<p>7. Jobs and food was to be prioritized to citizens as defined by the NDSP- aliens (non-citizens) must be expelled from the Reich.</p>
<p>8. Further immigration of non-Germans was to be prevented. &#8220;All non-Germans who have entered Germany since August 2, 1914, shall be compelled to leave the Reich immediately&#8221;.</p>
<p>9-10. The NDSP argued all citizens must possess equal rights and duties.&#8221;The first duty of every citizen must be to work mentally or physically.&#8221; [Note this was not universal employment...but COMPULSORY EMPLOYMENT in selective tasks].  &#8220;No individual shall do any work that offends against the interest of the community to the benefit of all&#8221;. [This was a community standard that excluded types of work as being "anti-German"...either morally or socially].</p>
<p>The next 8 points were their &#8220;socialist&#8221; [actually populist] agenda. It&#8217;s not actually socialist since it denies investment or any sort of State influence on the application of the wealth other than by the laws themselves. In reality it was an effort to eradicate &#8220;alien&#8221; investors and to redistribute that wealth to Germans, and even German capitalists (Jews, foreign capitalists).  </p>
<p>11. All unearned income [ income that does not arise from work] be abolished. Prominent Jews, because of Medieval discrimination laws had become concentrated in the banking, merchandise retail and investment industries. They were thus investors in real estate, lending, and were at the core of providing capital to German industries. Their secondary profits would be eliminated as loans would be cancelled&#8230;thus benefitting the industrialist owners paying off loans.</p>
<p>12.  The total confiscation of all war profits.</p>
<p>13. The nationalization of all trusts.</p>
<p>14. Profit-sharing in large industries.</p>
<p>15. Increase in old-age pensions.</p>
<p>16. Communalization of &#8220;large stores&#8221; (these often had sprung from the Jewish haberdashers which offered &#8220;credit&#8221;- it was simply a redistribution of wealth to &#8220;true Germans&#8221;) which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, Small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.</p>
<p>17. Agrarian reform in accordance with our national requirements. Expropriate from the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.</p>
<p>18. Ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.</p>
<p>19. We demand that Roman law, which serves a materialist ordering of the world, be replaced by German common law.</p>
<p>20.  The curricula of all educational establishments shall be adapted to practical life. The conception of the State Idea (science of citizenship) must be taught in the schools from the very beginning. We demand that &#8220;specially talented&#8221; children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State.</p>
<p>21. The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young.</p>
<p>22. We demand the abolition of the regular [professional] army and the creation of a national (folk) army [militias designed to undertake state-directed political actions- so much for the claim that the Nazis intended to disarm the people].</p>
<p>23.  All editors and their assistants on newspapers published in the German language shall be German citizens.<br />
 Non-German newspapers shall only be published with the express permission of the State. They must not be published in the German language. All financial interests in or in any way affecting German newspapers shall be forbidden to non-Germans by law, and we demand that the punishment for transgressing this law be the immediate suppression of the newspaper and the expulsion of the non-Germans from the Reich. [So much for "minority-ownership"]</p>
<p>Newspapers transgressing against the common welfare shall be suppressed. We demand legal action against those tendencies in art and literature that have a disruptive influence upon the life of our folk, and that any organizations that offend against the foregoing demands shall be dissolved. [Culture Wars]</p>
<p>24. We demand freedom for all religious faiths in the state, insofar as they do not endanger its existence or offend the moral and ethical sense of the Germanic race [see below comment about the Jewish religion, and which would also apply to other "materialist" religions or agnosticism or atheism]. The party as such represents the point of view of a positive Christianity without binding itself to any one particular confession. It fights against the Jewish materialist spirit within and without, and is convinced that a lasting recovery of our folk can only come about from within on the principle: COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD</p>
<p>25. In order to carry out this program we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the State, the unconditional authority by the political central parliament of the whole State and all its organizations.</p>
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		<title>By: JoeBuddha</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/26/erick-erickson-reviews-liberal-fascism-hilarity-ensues/#comment-2003117</link>
		<dc:creator>JoeBuddha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that&#039;s the classic fallacy of &quot;Affirming the Consequent&quot;:

If P then Q; Q; therefore P.

I know, I know, that&#039;s as classy as he gets...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that&#8217;s the classic fallacy of &#8220;Affirming the Consequent&#8221;:</p>
<p>If P then Q; Q; therefore P.</p>
<p>I know, I know, that&#8217;s as classy as he gets&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gasman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gasman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goldberg is an imbecilic asshat.  He employs the most tenuous &quot;logic&quot; to show us how Obama is just like Adolph Hitler.

Adolph has 6 letters and two vowels;
Barack has 6 letters and two vowels!

See!  &lt;em&gt;Obama is just like Hitler!&lt;/em&gt;

That is the type of &quot;proof&quot; that Goldberg uses to support the buffoonish nonsense he regularly extracts from his ass.  It makes perfect sense to Jonah and those who view him as some kind of &quot;intellectual.&quot;  Actually, he &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; what passes for conservative intellectualism these days, even though the terms &quot;conservative&quot; and &quot;intellectualism&quot; would seem to be mutually exclusive.

Goldberg is a moron that writes for other morons.  The bizarre premises by which he tries to equate Obama with the Nazis are both laughable and insulting.  Even he must realize that the analogy will begin to wear thin if Obama doesn&#039;t actually start rounding up and executing people.  An invasion or two, say annexing Ontario or New Brunswick and Nova Scotia would help Goldberg&#039;s argument enormously.  

If Obama really were like Hitler, wouldn&#039;t Goldberg have disappeared already?  Hitler wasn&#039;t big on tolerating dissent, but Obama has let the wingnuts run free.  How does this inconvenient truth buttress Goldberg&#039;s asshat theory?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goldberg is an imbecilic asshat.  He employs the most tenuous &#8220;logic&#8221; to show us how Obama is just like Adolph Hitler.</p>
<p>Adolph has 6 letters and two vowels;<br />
Barack has 6 letters and two vowels!</p>
<p>See!  <em>Obama is just like Hitler!</em></p>
<p>That is the type of &#8220;proof&#8221; that Goldberg uses to support the buffoonish nonsense he regularly extracts from his ass.  It makes perfect sense to Jonah and those who view him as some kind of &#8220;intellectual.&#8221;  Actually, he <em>is</em> what passes for conservative intellectualism these days, even though the terms &#8220;conservative&#8221; and &#8220;intellectualism&#8221; would seem to be mutually exclusive.</p>
<p>Goldberg is a moron that writes for other morons.  The bizarre premises by which he tries to equate Obama with the Nazis are both laughable and insulting.  Even he must realize that the analogy will begin to wear thin if Obama doesn&#8217;t actually start rounding up and executing people.  An invasion or two, say annexing Ontario or New Brunswick and Nova Scotia would help Goldberg&#8217;s argument enormously.  </p>
<p>If Obama really were like Hitler, wouldn&#8217;t Goldberg have disappeared already?  Hitler wasn&#8217;t big on tolerating dissent, but Obama has let the wingnuts run free.  How does this inconvenient truth buttress Goldberg&#8217;s asshat theory?</p>
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		<title>By: BargainCountertenor</title>
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		<dc:creator>BargainCountertenor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In modo snarkissimo:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;the&lt;/em&gt; stupid is almost overpowering.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I just want to note that you misspelled &quot;teh&quot; as &quot;the&quot;, BT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In modo snarkissimo:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>the</em> stupid is almost overpowering.</p></blockquote>
<p>I just want to note that you misspelled &#8220;teh&#8221; as &#8220;the&#8221;, BT.</p>
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