Comments on: Pelosi leads — chooses better policy http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/21/pelosi-chooses-to-lead-chooses-better-policy/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 17 Feb 2012 23:32:21 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Phoenix Woman http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/21/pelosi-chooses-to-lead-chooses-better-policy/#comment-2000530 Phoenix Woman Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:23:21 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/?p=46175#comment-2000530 It was all about keeping the insurance and health lobbies from running ads 24/7 attacking reform, and even (if possible) keeping their campaign contributions from being redirected back to the GOP, where they've historically gone. As Jane has explained repeatedly over the spring and summer and now fall, privately promising to insurance companies to ditch the PO (while publicly praising it) is how Obama kept the health/insurance lobby from running "Harry and Louise" ads day and night for the past six months. Except now the public option is very much alive despite that promise, so the Big Health lobby has pulled off the gloves and started running scare ads (as a cursory viewing of most any televised football game or baseball playoff game shows). And that's now why Obama and the Congressional Dems are suddenly talking about zapping the antitrust exemption for these companies. It's a different game now, and it's because Jane Hamsher wouldn't let the PO get kicked to the curb. Amazing, what the rallying efforts of a few committed people, who understand how to work around the system, can do. It was all about keeping the insurance and health lobbies from running ads 24/7 attacking reform, and even (if possible) keeping their campaign contributions from being redirected back to the GOP, where they’ve historically gone. As Jane has explained repeatedly over the spring and summer and now fall, privately promising to insurance companies to ditch the PO (while publicly praising it) is how Obama kept the health/insurance lobby from running “Harry and Louise” ads day and night for the past six months.

Except now the public option is very much alive despite that promise, so the Big Health lobby has pulled off the gloves and started running scare ads (as a cursory viewing of most any televised football game or baseball playoff game shows). And that’s now why Obama and the Congressional Dems are suddenly talking about zapping the antitrust exemption for these companies.

It’s a different game now, and it’s because Jane Hamsher wouldn’t let the PO get kicked to the curb. Amazing, what the rallying efforts of a few committed people, who understand how to work around the system, can do.

]]> By: Phoenix Woman http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/21/pelosi-chooses-to-lead-chooses-better-policy/#comment-2000529 Phoenix Woman Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:15:18 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/?p=46175#comment-2000529 Indeed! Indeed!

]]> By: gamd521 http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/21/pelosi-chooses-to-lead-chooses-better-policy/#comment-2000431 gamd521 Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:03:08 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/?p=46175#comment-2000431 Pelosi has balls and she is doing the people a great service for which she should be rewarded. The thanks to the others in the CPC is merited as well. Stock should be taken now as to who has impeded progress and highest on the list is Obama. His lack of support for the PO while others did all the work warrants that he should be punished come the next election. It would be a travesty to reward this miscreant by allowing him to share in the hard work of others who had to overcome his efforts to derail the PO. A challenge from Sherrod Brown or some equally deserving candidate should get the support of those on the left. Obama is a pretentious patronizing spewer of platitudes incapable of working hard at anything. He is basically an inept wingbag and we should not have to suffer this clown any further Pelosi has balls and she is doing the people a great service for which she should be rewarded. The thanks to the others in the CPC is merited as well.

Stock should be taken now as to who has impeded progress and highest on the list is Obama. His lack of support for the PO while others did all the work warrants that he should be punished come the next election. It would be a travesty to reward this miscreant by allowing him to share in the hard work of others who had to overcome his efforts to derail the PO. A challenge from Sherrod Brown or some equally deserving candidate should get the support of those on the left.

Obama is a pretentious patronizing spewer of platitudes incapable of working hard at anything. He is basically an inept wingbag and we should not have to suffer this clown any further

]]> By: Kassandra http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/21/pelosi-chooses-to-lead-chooses-better-policy/#comment-2000350 Kassandra Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:28:48 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/?p=46175#comment-2000350 Thanks for that. I needed it this morning Thanks for that. I needed it this morning

]]> By: KayInMaine http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/21/pelosi-chooses-to-lead-chooses-better-policy/#comment-2000341 KayInMaine Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:19:54 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/?p=46175#comment-2000341 When you call my house and get the answering machine, it means one of two things: WE'RE NOT HOME OR WE'RE NOT ANSWERING OUR PHONE! See? And if thousands of you are calling my house at once and are leaving messages to fill the box, but the next 1000 callers get to leave a message, that means I've deleted the first 1,000 messages for you to do so! A Portland lawyer contacted me through my WNI email account and left me his number. I called him. He suggested I do what you guys are suggesting above: buy a phone recorder to record this nonsense! For $100 it would be worth it. Here in Maine you can record another's voice without their permission (unless it's in a private place like a bathroom etc). When you call my house and get the answering machine, it means one of two things: WE’RE NOT HOME OR WE’RE NOT ANSWERING OUR PHONE! See? And if thousands of you are calling my house at once and are leaving messages to fill the box, but the next 1000 callers get to leave a message, that means I’ve deleted the first 1,000 messages for you to do so!

A Portland lawyer contacted me through my WNI email account and left me his number. I called him. He suggested I do what you guys are suggesting above: buy a phone recorder to record this nonsense! For $100 it would be worth it. Here in Maine you can record another’s voice without their permission (unless it’s in a private place like a bathroom etc).

]]> By: ThingsComeUndone http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/21/pelosi-chooses-to-lead-chooses-better-policy/#comment-2000330 ThingsComeUndone Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:03:51 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/?p=46175#comment-2000330 http://www.amazon.com/Bell-Curve-Wars-Intelligence-Republic/dp/0465006930 Place your order now its an old book but I recommend this for the FDL book club. Pleasssse:) http://www.amazon.com/Bell-Curve-Wars-Intelligence-Republic/dp/0465006930

Place your order now its an old book but I recommend this for the FDL book club. Pleasssse:)

]]> By: ThingsComeUndone http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/21/pelosi-chooses-to-lead-chooses-better-policy/#comment-2000329 ThingsComeUndone Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:02:13 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/?p=46175#comment-2000329 <blockquote>David Price describes how the Pentagon is recruiting PhDs to fight its counter-insurgency campaigns: today Afghanistan, tomorrow the world </blockquote> http://www.counterpunch.org/zeese10202009.html Wingnut NeoCon welfare? Is Harvard giving Legacies PhD's ops sorry Bell Curve proved that read Bell Curve wars its funny to see all the college freshman mistakes and lies pointed out in the Bell Curve Wars short book should be available at library.

David Price describes how the Pentagon is recruiting PhDs to fight its counter-insurgency campaigns: today Afghanistan, tomorrow the world

http://www.counterpunch.org/zeese10202009.html

Wingnut NeoCon welfare? Is Harvard giving Legacies PhD’s ops sorry Bell Curve proved that read Bell Curve wars its funny to see all the college freshman mistakes and lies pointed out in the Bell Curve Wars short book should be available at library.

]]> By: selise http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/21/pelosi-chooses-to-lead-chooses-better-policy/#comment-2000327 selise Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:00:08 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/?p=46175#comment-2000327 p.s. more on mandates from digby (via ian): <a href="http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2009/10/light-dawns-by-digby-light-dawns-by.html" rel="nofollow">The Light Dawns</a> p.s. more on mandates from digby (via ian): The Light Dawns

]]> By: ThingsComeUndone http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/21/pelosi-chooses-to-lead-chooses-better-policy/#comment-2000323 ThingsComeUndone Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:53:08 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/?p=46175#comment-2000323 Tape record the number of attempts to call show that she either is erasing messages from her voters to hide their support of healthcare or she has the longest answering machine in history:) Tape record the number of attempts to call show that she either is erasing messages from her voters to hide their support of healthcare or she has the longest answering machine in history:)

]]> By: selise http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/21/pelosi-chooses-to-lead-chooses-better-policy/#comment-2000322 selise Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:52:54 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/?p=46175#comment-2000322 <a href="http://www.counterpunch.org/zeese10202009.html" rel="nofollow">Can the Democrats Avoid a Populist Health Care Rebellion?</a> in case you come back to this thread after your bus trip. have fun! Can the Democrats Avoid a Populist Health Care Rebellion?

in case you come back to this thread after your bus trip. have fun!

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