It’s becoming obvious now that the protracted drama of the Senate Finance Committee, long feared to be the beginning of the end for meaningful healthcare reform, really was just the end of the beginning. Now that a version of the bill has been pried loose from Sen. “Max Tax” Baucus and his committee, the real negotiations — and posturing — have started.
That’s why Joe Lieberman and Evan Bayh are making noises about not ruling out a filibuster — but hey, they can be bribed persuaded not to join one, too!– and why Jay Rockefeller and Chuck Schumer (and Nancy Pelosi, on the House side) are applying pressure in the media for a robust public option. Everyone’s jockeying for position.
Jon Walker’s post at FDL Action today sums up the state of play nicely with a quote from Tom Harkin:
There are 52 solid Democrats for a public option and only about five Democrats really kind of opposed to it…. One has to ask if the 52 should give into the five or if the five should come on board with the vast majority.
And you know what? That’s how everyone knew (or should have known) this was going to wind up back in January — with a handful of faux-centrist Senators threatening to sabotage a Democratic president for at least the third straight time, and everyone else wondering how to get around that obstacle.
But this also means that of all people, Barack Obama should have a plan for how to deal with this situation. I’ve been more naive optimistic than most of the writers here, holding out hope that Obama really does want a public option in the final healthcare bill — not out of his innate progressive nature or the goodness of his heart (always a bad bet when it comes to politicians), but due to his own stated recognition that whatever passes needs to work, or he’s going to pay the political price for the resulting fiasco just as surely as if the bill had been defeated.
That’s why I’m not surprised to read that Harry Reid is reportedly working behind the scenes “for the best possible public option coming out of conference” (though those last four words are worth noting, and perhaps being alarmed over), or to see Nancy Pelosi’s forthright defense of a public option yesterday just before appearing with President Obama at two events in San Francisco (where his praise of her would seem odd if she’d just thrown his alleged secret desire to kill the public option under the bus).
But now’s the time for Obama to stop forcing us to imagine what his real intentions are. We all know how solicitous he’s been of Max Baucus’s endless delays and whatever whim Olympia Snowe chooses to express on any given day, and not openly pressuring Democratic senators who have spoken against a public option. I’ve tried to give Obama the benefit of the doubt, figuring that he’s worked directly with these bozos colleagues in the Senate and knows what preening, obnoxious assholes they are how sensitive they are to being pressured.
At the end of the day, though, he’s got to persuade them to do the right thing. And the end of the day is rapidly approaching.



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Can you pass me what your smoking please? Unless Obama has out machiavellianized himself so he doesn’t know where he stands, he’s always been a weak sister concerning the public option. If any useful public option comes through for his signature, it’ll be in spite of, not because of his good offices.
time for him to clearly state his intentions instead of trying to hide behind the skirts of bipartisanship and congress.
If the topic is Barack Obama’s cluelessness or lack thereof, I must pass along this observation from the Big DNC fundraiser last night at the St Francis Hotel on Union Square:
“You’re not getting it.”
That’s my take on it too.
I mean, he campaigned against the individual mandate versus Hillary, yet that was one of the first things put into the bill. He campaigned repeatedly on making the USA return to the rule of law, yet he not only hasn’t returned the USA to the rule of law, he has stated unabashadly that the past lawbreakers will not be held accountable.
It seems you can’t trust what does come out of his mouth as much as you can’t trust what he doesn’t say (or do) with regards to the PO.
I’d say fork those five – with real forks!!
The Obama-Rahm goal has been to kill the public option but not have their fingerprints on it, as Jane has been saying. So the White House is not going to stiff Pelosi. To be honest, I’m not sure Pelosi has been all that big a supporter of the public option either.
Obama-Rahm see their deals with the insurance companies and other corporate players coming undone if there is a public option. These “deals” are supposedly where they expect to realize the “savings” they project on the private side.
The critical problem with the public option has always been how undefined it has been. So even if one makes it into the final bill, the odds are heavy it will be “robust” in name only.
Steve Elmendorf, Lanny Davis, or Al From? You decide.
Who the fuck does this clown think was knocking on tens of thousands of doors all across this country during the campaign for Obama. And donating money would couldn’t really afford because we were stupid enough that asshole like him would really make some change happen in this country.
Nancy Pelosi has unfailingly supported Public Option and, when her remarks were misconstrued otherwise, has hastened to correct the record. I don’t think you can see much waffling there.
It’s an advantage of having a party leader from a safe district or state: she doesn’t have to trim her sails to be re-elected. In fact, if she wants it, her Speakership will probably outlast Barack Obama’s presidency.
“loony left?”
WTF?
It’s “loony” to want the most efficient, effective, and universal plan like single payer. But’s it’s perfectly “rational” to want to keep the unnecessary level of profit for the middleman insurance companies, while simultaneously making the system waaaaay less efficient and far from universal?
WTF?
It’s pretty plain to me which of those is LOONY.
I seem to recall Obama making a statement about regular americans getting as good a health care as members of congress, or something to that effect. To me, that is the starting point for a public option.
That point of view has certainly been well represented on this site; as I said in the post, I recognize that mine is a minority opinion.
But I do think that if he really wanted to kill the public option, praising it in a nationally televised primetime speech last month — and specifically citing its popularity — was a strange way to go about it.
I don’t really understand Nantz’s spine on the PO lately, not that I’m complaining. It’s just that the whole political class are such a bunch of set-for-life pigs, i’m just sort of astonished that any of em (except the few exceptions we know and love) would bother even pretending to give a fark.
All I can guess is that somebody does Fear The Hamsher!
Somebody needs to put together a youtube video of all of Obama’s healthcare promises and statements…
And play it repeatedly all across the US.
BTW, here’s the money quote from that article, IMO.
Agreed… but he also said, with emphasis, it would only cover 5% of Americans…. thereby implying that its loss would not be a significant hit.
We’ll get our public option ,as we get closer to seeing a final bill the opposition among Dems sure does seem to be fading.
It may only be a handful of Democratic Senators still opposed .
There already is a majority of Sens committed to the PO ,enough to pass the bill .
so things are looking up from a few weeks ago ,when this looked like it was dead in the water
If there are 52 Senate Dems solidly behind the PO… put it in the damn bill and pass it through reconciliation. The CBO has shown that costs would be lower with the PO.
The fact that this is not being done, or even discussed at this point, makes it clear the WH and Robin don’t want a PO in there.
Rahm’s been Obama’s point man trying to keep the public option out of everything from the beginning. Why would Obama throw elbows to make it happen when there’s very little evidence that he even supports such a thing?
Obama wants his “reform” to build his reputation, but he doesn’t want to change the system so much it upsets the corporate bagmen.
Why oh why has this song from My Fair Lady been running through my head all week whenever I think of Obama and Harry Reid?
“Words! Words! I’m so sick of words!
I get words all day through…Is that all you blighters can do?
…Sing me no song! Read me no rhyme!
Don’t waste my time, Show me!
Don’t talk of June, Don’t talk of fall!
Don’t talk at all! Show me!
Never do I ever want to hear another word.
There isn’t one I haven’t heard.
Here we are together in what ought to be a dream;
Say one more word and I’ll scream!
…Please don’t “expl’ine,” Show me! Show me!
Don’t wait until wrinkles and lines
Pop out all over my brow,
Show me now!”
“Show Me” lyrics by Alan Jay Lerner
If a progressive movement is to be effectual at all it must be willing to take action at some point. That time will come when Reid decides to exclude the PO from the merged senate bills
Most progressives have come to see that the PO is a crucial element of HCR. Also that this is an issue that directly affects our well being. It would be strange if as we decry the lack of spine in elected public officials for being unwilling to act in our interest, if we compound that cowardice in ourselves by taking that crap when our very health hangs in the balance.
Reid should be the first targeted for removal from his seat in the next election so as to make him an example to the rest of the scabs such as Lieberman, Lincoln, Landrieu and the rest. It is not even necessary that we succeed in our attempt, the effort alone will show our determination and that the progressive movement needs to be taken into account.
A well coordinated campaign of several hundred thousand contributing $50 would generate sufficient funds to field a candidate to oppose Reid, who believes that the public deserves to have the option to pay for health care in a nonprofit way, such as a comprehensive government supplemented PO.
Action such as this must be carried out openly and explicitly specifying that the motivation derives from a wish to rid congress of unprincipled people unwilling to look out for our interest.
Obama’s words before MD primary re healthcare (from Wm Hughes):
try again
well it looks like the youtube embed code is not working…
search for “Obamam promises promises” on youtube and you will pull it up.
Indeed it is a strange way of going about the many initiatives he’s touted in his 10 months in office. I’m looking a results vs rhetoric, bipartisanship vs doing the job, and have seen little results, or getting the job done. As an example, though off topic, is Israel/Palestine conflict where he threads a needle to move forward. When a concrete indictment of Israels “supposed war crimes” in the last Gaza invasion comes forward, the US voted “NO” in the UN condemnation of Israel for war crimes. Previously Obama forced Palistines not to agree with the report. If we want rhetoric over substance, we should have repealed the Twenty-second Amendment and reelected Bush.
IMO, that’s the most precise example of Obama’s “post-partisanship” (or “changing the tone,” or whatever) on display — he was positioning the PO simultaneously as not so threatening to those who opposed it, and not so vital to those who supported it.
As I say in the post, though, I think there will be a PO in the bill because it’s the only way reform works, and Obama knows he’s going to pay the price if it doesn’t work.
It is regrettable the President Obama is the mouth piece for the Democrats, instead of the Liberal voice of America. Democrats are just passive & weak in philosophy, and unorganized in the extreme.
The republicans present a well working propaganda media program in Fox News that goes unchallenged off the internet. Democrats need their own 24/7 media station that can bark and bite back. It needs to be called “Hound,” the fox’s curse, and when stuffed with good honest media people, the Fox would be history.
Isn’t one of the essential skills of politics calculated ambiguity? Big money constituencies are less inclined to attack the president if they think he might be an ally. Maybe Obama doesn’t want to put his hands on the ball and have people start attacking him until the ball is on the one yard line. If BO had alerted AHIP months ago that he supports a PO they would have been shooting at him all along.
I hope BO will push for a PO. If you know the story of his mothers death it’s almost unimaginable that he wouldn’t.
Is it possible to message a specific person here?
I’d love to hear Phoenix Woman’s take on that article linked at 8.
The more I read it, the more I think it’s just plain more GOP/Media Complex bullshit.
The guy says Obama needs carping from the left, as it helps him with the center and conservatives.
Hasn’t nearly every poll ever taken on the PO shown SUPER MAJORITY support??? If 75% of the people are LEFT, then why is it even necessary to worry about the 25% that are in the middle or on the right???
This is just more bullshit TradMed trying to define the CW methinks.
If you’re reading this PW, would love to hear your take on that article.
Have you looked at the unemployment numbers lately?
There are plenty of people in pajamas nowadays and they’re reading Worldnetdaily, Newsmax, Drudgereport, and freerepublic.
That’s the real dumbing down of America.
I don’t know about PW, but here’s my take on that article.
On Monday, a few blogs (including this one) went apeshit about a quote from NYT reporter John Harwood that an anonymous “Obama adviser” had dissed liberal blogs.
My interpretation at that time was that Harwood was intentionally trying to pick a fight between Obama and the blogs, and several blogs (as I said, including this one) took the bait.
This is the second article since then trying to throw out the same bait. (That this one was written by known right-wing phony Byron York shows the malicious intent.) Fortunately, the blogs that got suckered the first time seem to have wised up.
OK, thanks. I didn’t know who Byron York was, so your take does explain a lot to me.
Thanks man.
50 votes in the Senate for a PO, Biden has to break the tie; which way would he go?
FWIW, here’s the other article I was referring to, on Tuesday from those famous friends-of-the-blogosphere at Politico.
Like York, they saw Harwood’s success at punking some liberal blogs and decided to try for a piece of the same action.
I wish/hope/pray that this is the case. It is the ONLY way to interpret the events thusfar in a positive light.
Obama = Public Option Enemy #1
Pelosi has smartly recognized that the robust Medicare+5% public option is the only plan on the table which will ensure affordability.
Everybody would have agreed on this long ago if Obama hadn’t given credence to opponents’ unworkable schemes. Maybe he’ll have an 11th hour epiphany but I’m not holding my breath.
Bravo! So Appropo. If I had trusted the lyrics in many “My Fair Lady” songs, I think things would have made a little more sense along the way.