
Grassley on Medicare photo op (violating the 10th Amendment)
Well in a world where:
* You can accuse the white GOP donors of the NFL of depriving a white man of his “inalienable right” to own things because the President is the “magic negro”;
* The Washington Post can publish editorials saying accepting a Nobel Prize is unconstitutional;
* Magazines can publish op-eds accusing Obama of being a fraud without mentioning it was written by a guy in Federal Prison for being convicted of Fraud;
* The broadcast media can stop it’s coverage of quasi-celebrity divorces only long enough to focus on getting to the bottom of “balloon boy and his story” (“OH, THE INANITY!”).
It is then no surprise that Grassley has managed to learn one thing — the crazier the better.
“I’m not a lawyer, but let me tell you, I’ve listened to some lawyers speak on this. And you know, it’s a relatively new issue. I don’t think we’ve ever had this issue before of having to buy something. And a lot of constitutional lawyers, saying it is unconstitutional or at least in violation of the 10th Amendment. Now maybe states can do this, but can the federal government? So, I have my doubts.”
That was in response to the idea of individual insurance mandates, an idea ol’ Chuck used to love until there was a possibility — love it or not — that Democrats might actually enact it. And, of course, it also happens to be an argument that is completely bullcrap — and it’s something each and everyone of us make note of when we pay taxes — well maybe not some of Chuck’s base, but the rest of us.



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Would you vote for Christie Vilsack, Attaturk…? Anybody but Chuck…! ;-)
the republicans are allowed to spew in the name of ballance
I still have trouble with “ballance”, if a democrat says water is wet, a republican doesn’t get ballance to say water is not wet, that’s not ballance
You meant ‘balance’ right…? ;-)
He’s Paul Broun’s mentor.
From the Atlanta Journal
Speaking of ‘fair and balanced’… Faux Spew’s Neil Cavuto…
Well… Yes…!
Hey big guy… How’s tricks…! ;-)
Swell, rainin like a mofo here in Georgia. Lake Lanier is up 18 feet from last year!!!!
It’s either feast or famine these days, eh…? ;-)
Yea, last time we talked the hurricane was coming!
Speaking of CAIR… Check out this JPost hit piece…! Daniel Pipes is a real douchebag…!
Wait, that’s a good thing, right? No?
Bonfire of the Inanities…set by the Confederacy of Dunces?
Oh, and about the “Balloon(ey) Boy” thing? When the local reporter on KO talked about how he was up in the attic playing with toys and having snacks, I was, like, a 6-year old with his own Secret Hideout in the ATTIC? WTF?
Now… I wonder if anyone can find a money trail back to some desperate RWA group needing a really good shiny, distracting object.
*adjusting my tinfoil chapeau*
FunnyWheelieDiva
The rain certainly has been welcome except for the 14,000 or so people who got hammered in the floods two weeks ago.
I’m worried about our baloney meters (aka bogometers). We were watching the balloon story on the web. When the announcer said it was about the size of a car, my son, 16, said “It’s empty.” Why? Because, as they had just been studying in physics, helium lifts about a gram per liter or a kilogram per cubic meter. A big car would have a volume of about 8 cubic meters, or lift of 8kg. A small kid weighs 20 kg, plus there is the weight of the balloon and its basket. So it was about a third or quarter the size in should be to carry a boy. His bogometer went off immediately, I wish mine had.
Mornin Joe is freaking out because Obama said he can’t just “write a check” for New Orleans. . .WHERE”S THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT!!!!
Good for your boy!!!
Three cheers for the next generation of Science Nerds!
Nerdz Rool. I no, cuz I are won!
FWDiva
Yeaaaaah, like Joe actually gives a shit about po’ black folk.
IOW, he’s only got any outrage when there’s a Dem to blame. Asshat.
FWDiva
Pipes based his hatchet job on Dave Gaubatz’s new fiction entitled “Muslim Mafia”… Here’s a good synopsis…
Good morning, pups. It’s Bobo, Cohen and Krugman today. In “The Reality Moment” Bobo says Conservative politicians in Britain are treating voters as adults, offering not merely pain, but a different economic vision, and American Republicans should take a cue from their approach. Mr. Cohen, in “An Ordinary Israel,” says Israel, born from the exceptional horror of the Holocaust, has found normality elusive. “Never again” is a necessary but altogether inadequate approach to the world. Prof. Krugman discusses “A Hatchet Job So Bad It’s Good,” and says the report released by the lobbying organization America’s Health Insurance Plans, or AHIP, was dismissed by experts as a hatchet job, but it may have led to a better bill.
Here they are.
The coffee and tea are ready, and I’ve got lemon poppy seed muffins today. It’s another wet, gray day down here. I’m running a bit late, so I’m going to vanish and go and do that stuff that’s gotta be done before I get to be a cog in the medical industrial complex. Have a great day.
As rotten ron said, “There you go again…” In this instance trying to introduce ‘facts’ into a story that did not need them.
Good morning.
Is that back to normal? Is the drought officially over? I’ve been meaning to ask, given all the rain you’ve been getting.
Involuntary Servitude is unconstitutional. Cars are property KO. Dred Scott was property KO!!!! I’m not property. I do not want insurance corporations raping, as segregationists raped America, using the color of law deprived people of constitutional rights.
We are being further enslaved under the color of law with a patently illegal mandate from the government, coerced by a tax penalty to enter into contracts with tax exempt or for profit health insurance “CORPORATIONS. Involuntary Servitude is illegal as a Life Tax!
Lets mandate servitude to the corporations which rape USA!! This is serious retardation 101………….
This is not health care reform, this is corporate protectionism! Remember KO Dred Scott was considered PROPERTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not to mention the fact that mandates are terrible economics. They allow the govt to absolve itself from all responsibility, both for the budget itself, and for oversight of the program. As for those who are forced into the plan that they don’t need, the healthy, there will be much greater resentment than if the collected good were paid for thru taxes, like schools, first responders, etc.
I suspect there will be a lot of scofflaws, leading to a more general disregard for (what is already laughingly-referred-to as) law. An unintended outcome.
For the behind the scenes gremlins. Edit not working properly this morning. I edited, it appeared in the edited form, but after refresh, went back to originally typed form, then told me edit time had expired when I tried to redo the edit.
Well the right to own slaves was taken away:) and after the magic negro comment I hope no African American would play for or against his team. I hope nobody would play with Rush are there any football players saying they want Rush to own them? White or Black?
This is reprehensible. I want real health care reform. Not corporate protectionism. Imagine a law which required the colonist to purchase the King’s Tea while making coffee illegal! Leverage economic involuntary servitude to corporations under fear of tax penalty is coercion, under the guise of a legitimate government interest? So the constitutional rights of Americans are usurped under the color of state and contractual law. Jefferson stated “… aristocrats corporate in nature will usurp constitutional checks and balances, in the lust for endless profit!” We listen to all the flagellating assholes, and fail to recognize the warnings of our revered forefathers who lead at the risk “Death,” a revolution to protect the “rights of men” from a corrupt King and his corporate cohorts in colonial crime, raping the colonist many a time!! What the fuck is Happening in America today???????????????????????????????????????????????
Ah, those pesky facts. Let’s see if we can keep them out of the upcoming climate disruption discussion in Copenhagen.
This is a smart political angle for Republicans because the mandate isn’t going to sit well with anyone. Of course, if Republicans were in charge that would probably be the entirety of their “reform” just force us to funnel more money into corporate coffers. But R’s (and too many Dems) don’t let a little thing like integrity hinder their politicking.
I can’t speak to the Constitutionality of it, but is sure doesn’t sit well with me.
I like that quote, but I can’t find it in context anywhere.
BTW,
Seems the purchase of auto insurance first protects the bank’s lien on the “”property,”" that you really do not own until the note is paid off?? The PIP required in auto insurance plans, was actually secondary?? Most people need loans to buy cars, the loss of life and limb and property evolved into tragedy when accidents occur. People getting “ill” is part of life and death. It is not an “”accident”" which destroys life limb or property as with automobile accidents and the need for insurance? KO is a fucking retard on this one issue!!!!!!!!
This article by Naomi Klein is interesting on that very subject, among others.
Hey I’m no republican and I have a serious fucking problem with this mandate! Go read Jefferson and you will be horrified at what is taking place. Read the prohibition on involuntary servitude, 13th Amendment and why it was passed?????
This is not a Fucking DEMORAT OR RETHUGLICAN ISSUE! Do not be blinded by your politics to the point where you abdicate reason???????
attaturk, I love you, but this is not an editorial.
* The Washington Post can publish editorials saying accepting a Nobel Prize is unconstitutional;
you have to get the terminology right if you are going to write about it.
You there, I’ve got an etiquette question for ya.
I want real health care reform not involuntary corporate servitude perpetuated and enabled under the color of law. Not a patchwork system where corporations exploit for profit and leverage with discrimination, for profit, like a slave owner or a court that denies people protection of law for political expediency while protecting monopolistic status quo corporations.. This is gross!
The site seems to be having a few hiccups.
But, let me try….
I have a job interview with Grassroots Campaigns this morning. Currently, they are working for Amnesty Internationa. It’s a canvassing gig. Do I wear something professional? Not my dfh outfit? If I overdressed, would that be a bad thing?
Anyone’s comments would be appreciated.
Seems like JJ is quoting himself quoting Jefferson!! JamesJoyce June 13th, 2009 at 3:03 am #7 But I cannot find Jefferson saying it.
I’d dress professionally, toned down a bit. If you’re going to appear at people’s doors, you don’t want to look like a DFH.
Blue Texan is upstairs…
And yet we criticize other countries (like Afghanistan) for corruption in government.
How is Grassley’s (or any number of Congressional goppies or Dems) knee-jerk obedience to corporate funders any different?
As for his specious argument about mandatory insurance, how about repealing the requirements for car insurance, home insurance, etc.?
Copenhagen is on track to be a glorified photo op, but there is a bigger problem for billionaires than watering down climate policy — they still have to live on this planet like everybody else! Lester Brown offers some positive news. Ironically, China, which has had to put a big population control program in place after the mistakes of the Cultural Revolution may bring the issue back to the fore. The world population is 6.8 billion and growing at about 80 million a year. It is hard to see how long-term goals for composition of the atmosphere and sea acidity, level, and temperature can be negotiated without some idea of a global population target.
Thanks, that’s what I’m thinking. No pearls. Ha. But, it’s not door to door, it’s the person standing in front of Trader Joe’s with a clipboard.
i hate the individual mandate and i will hate every dem who supports implementing one nationally. the experience in MA is that it does not affect the cost that much, and scarecrow says whatever cost savings there are is a one time (first year) thing. while the insurance companies continue to get the benefit year after year of a captured (enforced by the irs!) customer base.
there is NO way individual mandates should be implemented for private for profit corporations. it would be different if we had something like the swiss have with massive regulation and enforcement, but that’s not happening here (especially with mr. larry no-regulation summers in charge).
let’s see the health insurance industry regulated first (and not some faux, weak regulation that’s poorly enforced).
second that. professional, but not expensive (for example, i wouldn’t wear gold jewelry). and when you canvass, you can modify your dress according to the areas you will be visiting.
You ask a good question — what’s happening in America today?
It’s called economic indebtedness — a.k.a. economic slavery — the same issue that drove the colonists to revolt against Britain. In the modern-day case scenario, it’s been engineered by the corporate aristocracy over many decades and what we’re experiencing right now is the result of their efforts.
Of course, none of this could have been accomplished without the blessings and help of our elected legislators/prostitutes (needless to say) so it all comes back home to roost with the voters who either stayed at home and didn’t vote at all, or who were swayed by the propaganda fed to them by the interest groups wanting to make sure the “right” politicians got elected.
As long as you let a bully push you around, he’s going to do it.
i don’t have to have a car. that’s a choice (it’s also a well regulated market). individual mandates for health insurance is not the same thing at all.
Thanks for the correction… Paraphrasing of sorts, the gist of what Jefferson feared is still there, no!
Selise,
In our state, driving is a privileged issued out of a “Cracker Jack Box,” at a reasonable fee. The analogy between auto and health insurance, fails! KO was sickening last night on the issue!
We have the usurpation of constitutional rights at the state level in Massachusetts by a government in collusion with corporations. Does Blue Cross Blue Shield violates IRS rules of inurement? when laws are passed that require citizens to enter into contracts with insurance corporations, which benefit from the law, considering they dominate the market in MA, tax exempt? Larry O’Donnel (SP as usual) did mention a challenge in Massachusetts’s health mandate law, any links!!!!
Seems the state’s and health insurers are really injurious to rights of Americans. Some states still exercise discrimination where interracial couples seeking marriage certificate are denied protection of law based on race? Yup still happening in 2009!
Corporate servitude predicated on “Involuntary Servitude,” to government and corporation under the facade of a legitimate government interest?
“Involuntary servitude is a United States legal and constitutional term for a person laboring against that person’s will to benefit another, under some form of coercion. While laboring to benefit another occurs in the condition of slavery, involuntary servitude does not necessarily connote the complete lack of freedom experienced in chattel slavery; involuntary servitude may also refer to other forms of unfree labor. Involuntary servitude is not dependent upon compensation or its amount.”
“The Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution makes involuntary servitude illegal under any U.S. jurisdiction whether at the hands of the U.S. government or in the private sphere, except as punishment for a crime: “Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.”"
The rights of the governed are usurped by an “unconstitutional mandate” which violate constitutional due process and equal protection clause under the law, for individuals, while protecting the financial solvency or government and corporations, at the expense of the republic and governed.
Control the corporations…………………………….
i don’t have cable tv, so don’t watch KO.
see oldfatguy’s comments to me on this thread:
http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/10/12/did-schumer-cause-the-ahip-freak-out/comment-page-1/
we’re lucky in MA because we had pretty decent regulation before mandates. now, given MA’s experience with cost, i can’t believe we’re actually considering mandates in the rest of the country, especially where the insurance corps are not regulated. just nuts.
“I can’t believe we’re actually considering mandates in the rest of the country, especially where the insurance corps are not regulated. just nuts.”
Yes its retarded!!
Did you look at other states in the union in the AMA Comp Study? The 2009 AMA study is available for $150.00 from AMA ANY LINKS ANYONE!
http://www.ama-assn.org/ama1/pub/upload/mm/368/compstudy_52006.pdf
Thanks for the refresh with the link!