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	<title>Comments on: Early Morning Swim: KO and Dr. Mehmet Oz Discuss Health Care Fairs</title>
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		<title>By: JamesJoyce</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/15/early-morning-swim-ko-and-dr-mehmet-oz-discuss-health-care-fairs/#comment-1996672</link>
		<dc:creator>JamesJoyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think of the institution of slavery!  C-span will be doing a story on the Pennsylvania abolitionist charged with &quot;treason&quot; under the fugitive slave law&quot;

This abolitionist was found guilty of aiding slaves in their quest for freedom.  For this he was tried and convicted. His conviction was the death of slavery?

So who will be the first American to have his liberty taken away for his failure to comply with unjust and unconstitutional law, under the color of law forcing individuals to enter involuntarily, into  contract with health insurance corporations?    

So the theory of &quot;legitimate government interests&quot; now trumps constitutional law?
Involuntary Servitude is now aided by mandated health care law under fear of tax penalty as Americans aiding in the liberty of other &quot;individuals&quot; from forced coerced servitude with no protection of law , i.e. Dred Scott, where considered criminals


Jefferson is correct.  The corporate aristocrats have gamed the system. They have usurped and continue in attempts to usurp law in the lust for profit.  Wall street has eviscerate America in the lust for profit and health care is the next mechanism, as oil and energy where the last.  The continued Rape of America by Corporate Aristocrats unable to control their passions for power and profit have decimated the republic and its governed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think of the institution of slavery!  C-span will be doing a story on the Pennsylvania abolitionist charged with &#8220;treason&#8221; under the fugitive slave law&#8221;</p>
<p>This abolitionist was found guilty of aiding slaves in their quest for freedom.  For this he was tried and convicted. His conviction was the death of slavery?</p>
<p>So who will be the first American to have his liberty taken away for his failure to comply with unjust and unconstitutional law, under the color of law forcing individuals to enter involuntarily, into  contract with health insurance corporations?    </p>
<p>So the theory of &#8220;legitimate government interests&#8221; now trumps constitutional law?<br />
Involuntary Servitude is now aided by mandated health care law under fear of tax penalty as Americans aiding in the liberty of other &#8220;individuals&#8221; from forced coerced servitude with no protection of law , i.e. Dred Scott, where considered criminals</p>
<p>Jefferson is correct.  The corporate aristocrats have gamed the system. They have usurped and continue in attempts to usurp law in the lust for profit.  Wall street has eviscerate America in the lust for profit and health care is the next mechanism, as oil and energy where the last.  The continued Rape of America by Corporate Aristocrats unable to control their passions for power and profit have decimated the republic and its governed!</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
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		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>howdy back at ya,  klynn!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>howdy back at ya,  klynn!</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
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		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;waving back!&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

a great day to you and the tigers, SD!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em><strong>waving back!</strong></em></p>
<p>a great day to you and the tigers, SD!</p>
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		<title>By: klynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>klynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s yet &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ramusa.org/projects/reach.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;another group&lt;/a&gt; doing health care good in the USA.

Ditto on the hello to selise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s yet <a href="http://www.ramusa.org/projects/reach.html" rel="nofollow">another group</a> doing health care good in the USA.</p>
<p>Ditto on the hello to selise.</p>
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		<title>By: twolf1</title>
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		<dc:creator>twolf1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/9613&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Scarecrow is upstairs...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/9613" rel="nofollow">Scarecrow is upstairs&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: SouthernDragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>SouthernDragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*&lt;em&gt;waving on the way out&lt;/em&gt;*  Hi, bye, selise. *g*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*<em>waving on the way out</em>*  Hi, bye, selise. *g*</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
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		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Who would have guessed the insurance industry would act in bad faith?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

apparently not the people thought it made sense to pre-compromise on single payer comprehensive universal healthcare in favor of neo-liberal healthcare reform (public option in a multi payer system) that not only keeps private insurance companies at the center of healthcare delivery insuring hundreds of billions of dollars a year in useless overhead, increasing costs and millions of people in american still uninsured and underinsured... but also increases their power with an individual mandate to be enforced by the irs.

because we can trust the insurance industry and the regulators in the executive branch (aka larry summers when it&#039;s D and who knows when it&#039;s R).

or not.

duh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Who would have guessed the insurance industry would act in bad faith?</p></blockquote>
<p>apparently not the people thought it made sense to pre-compromise on single payer comprehensive universal healthcare in favor of neo-liberal healthcare reform (public option in a multi payer system) that not only keeps private insurance companies at the center of healthcare delivery insuring hundreds of billions of dollars a year in useless overhead, increasing costs and millions of people in american still uninsured and underinsured&#8230; but also increases their power with an individual mandate to be enforced by the irs.</p>
<p>because we can trust the insurance industry and the regulators in the executive branch (aka larry summers when it&#8217;s D and who knows when it&#8217;s R).</p>
<p>or not.</p>
<p>duh.</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernDragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>SouthernDragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off to swim in the great capitalist cesspool.

US KIA Irak:  4349

US KIA Afghanistan:  873

US MBS 2009:  35,588

Be good to yourselves, and all other living things.

Namaste</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off to swim in the great capitalist cesspool.</p>
<p>US KIA Irak:  4349</p>
<p>US KIA Afghanistan:  873</p>
<p>US MBS 2009:  35,588</p>
<p>Be good to yourselves, and all other living things.</p>
<p>Namaste</p>
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		<title>By: twolf1</title>
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		<dc:creator>twolf1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://media.mcclatchydc.com/smedia/2009/10/14/11/10142009Powell.slideshow_main.prod_affiliate.91.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s another&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: perris</title>
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		<dc:creator>perris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the report, as the people who wrote the report tell us, was specifically done to find a specific result

it&#039;s not only incorrect, it&#039;s rediculous

the health care industry first argues that they can&#039;t compete with a public plan, and then they argue such a plan will make them raise their prices

of course they can, they do with schools, mail and just about everything

if they want to raise their prices they are certainly able to do it but that will put them out of business since there will be nothing attractive about a private plan over the far more efficient of a public program, (as every public program is)

a public plan can&#039;t possibly raise prices of private industry and there is the rub, we have to make certain there is a public option because once there is forced compliance with no public option then you are correct, they will amass and act like monopolies and continue raising prices</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the report, as the people who wrote the report tell us, was specifically done to find a specific result</p>
<p>it&#8217;s not only incorrect, it&#8217;s rediculous</p>
<p>the health care industry first argues that they can&#8217;t compete with a public plan, and then they argue such a plan will make them raise their prices</p>
<p>of course they can, they do with schools, mail and just about everything</p>
<p>if they want to raise their prices they are certainly able to do it but that will put them out of business since there will be nothing attractive about a private plan over the far more efficient of a public program, (as every public program is)</p>
<p>a public plan can&#8217;t possibly raise prices of private industry and there is the rub, we have to make certain there is a public option because once there is forced compliance with no public option then you are correct, they will amass and act like monopolies and continue raising prices</p>
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