Another Republican senator says she’s open to voting for a sweeping health care overhaul this year. Maine Sen. Susan Collins said Wednesday the status quo is unaccaptable and she shares the goal of passing responsible health care legislation to expand coverage and curb costs. But Collins also said she has serious concerns about the version that cleared the Finance Committee Tuesday with the support of her Maine colleague, Olympia Snowe. Collins said she worries the coverage won’t be affordable for many families and small businesses, and said proposed Medicare cuts are too deep.
But the AP story is based on a statement from Collins that is indistinguishable from something most other Republicans who oppose the bill but don’t want to be seen as obstructionists would write. Indeed, on Hardball, Collins said that the bill “doesn’t do enough to rein in costs,” parroted the discredited AHIP line that the bill would increase costs for consumers, and called the public option a “non-starter”.
Affordability concerns are valid, and hopefully the HELP version of the bill will prevail on that front. But Collins is arguing two diametrically opposed points here. She wants more affordable coverage, which would cost money to the government in subsidies, but she thinks Medicare cuts are too deep, and she wants reduce the cost of the bill too, somehow, even though all her concerns would add to that cost. So this looks like a total tease to me, and some sloppy reporting from the AP (I know, big shock).
Snowe, meanwhile, has already started laying down markers. . . .
Gibson: You said your vote today was only your vote today and it might not signify your vote tomorrow. What would cause you to pull back? What does that mean?
Snowe: That would mean significant costs are added to the bill, or significant taxes. If some issues aren’t addressed such as affordability, we still have to work on that issue making sure Americans have affordable health plans. They do under this legislation, but we need to do more and to be certain of that. And finally of course, the public option. That is not an area I have agreed to. I don’t want the government at the outset of the process. It really could shut off the private sector. I think the private sector can do a lot because of the market reforms that we included in this legislation that will compel them to live up to a standard.
Snowe also implied to McClatchy that she would withdraw her support if a public option was included. She’s still pushing for that trigger.
It’s important to note that neither Snowe nor Collins are necessary for cloture. All Reid has to do is hold his caucus, which Alan Grayson demanded on Wednesday. The Democrats need to make a decision on whether they support bipartisanship for bipartisanship’s sake, or a bill that works for people.
Related posts:
- Americans Care More About Having Public Option than Gaining Snowe’s Vote
- Burris: Health Care Reform Must Have a Public Option
- Feingold: No Public Option “A Very Strong Reason Not To Support” A Health Care Bill
- This Is Absolutely Nothing Even Kinda Like a Public Option
- Americans Want A Public Option, Not Bipartisanship



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Huh, I was cooking dinner when she was on and I thought it was Daffy Duck.
How much you wanna bet she and Snowe vote against the final bill?
Her voice is truly awful. If I had to work with someone who spoke like that I’d go crazy.
I imagine that every single R will vote again any bill. They always intended to.
We have more votes than you do Collins so you give in because no money for healthcare then no cash for the wars.
You want more cash for another bank bailout NOPE!
That and you better start paying for your own Healthcare Susan cause the Left will be taking away your sweet ride!
I wouldn’t bet on Reid holding anything.
I don’t think he could hold his ground in a poker game if he had a royal flush in his hand.
The most important thing is that we reign in the cost of the bill I fully intend to vote against.
Can anyone remember a good bill that Reid got passed?
I wouldn’t bet on Reid holding anything.
I would bet on Reid holding the door open for the GOP naysayers.
It’s probably not nice to make fun of her, she almost seems like she has parkison type tremors when she talks. . .but what the hell!
Of course. This entire thing has been a game for the Rs – slowing everything down, trying to make the Dems look bad (which isn’t too difficult) and getting face time on tv. They are really awful, but skillful and relentless.
Why bargain for something when they won’t even vote for it and you don’t need their votes. We need 51 votes, actually 50…with Biden.
Voice tight a little high old age siting in her voice and she is excited ? shoulders move she is moving her hands below the camera’s view. She halts pauses between words for several words at the start of each question. Face flush red not sure its makeup smiling I think she thinks she is going to win on this one.
But yes she sounds like Daffy Duck.
What you described sounds more like a hot flash “g”
When Republicans were in the majority they got everything they wanted. Now that they are in the minority, they get everything they want.
Lots of old senators you maybe right and because of their public image all the Senators lie about their health. We cancel their health plan we hurt them financially.
I wonder how many family members are included in their plans kids? grandkids?
What else could cause something similar medically? I’m reading her as excited and she thinks she has won but I could be wrong. I’m no expert but this is obvious something is up or wrong with her.
I honestly can’t even guess. It just might be extreme nerves.
I was thinking that it would be interesting to put as much of their health information as possible into applications for health insurance, just so they could see what it’s like for real people.
I think that a lot of them would discover they can’t afford private insurance, even if they’re otherwise insurable.
Why does Susan Collins talk funny?
There is that.
He’d hold the door for them to go in and out, and be all apologetic because he couldn’t open it fast enough or far enough.
Daffy Duck Collins needs a job.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbYbc2IVqVg
and he wouldn’t even complain if they failed to tip him.
which is exactly what they would do, of course.
she is worse than daffy……..stone cold dumbass whore imo
That would be hilarious!
lack of oxygen frontal lobe,mebbe Sanjay froze her brain?
Heh. Didn’t know the benefits of freezing the brain went so far back as to elect funny speaking Rs.
the Clash:
I feel like I’m in Oz with the Wicked Witch of the East (collins) and the WW West (Snowe). Come on…Doesn’t Olympia look like Margaret Hamilton? Truly freaky.
I went to that White House website that asks for personal stories about health insurance problems, and left the following heartbreaking lament:
“I used to be in relatively good health. Then, I learned that someone I supported for President, who while running for office promised unalloyed support for a robust public option, now evaded and avoided delivering on that promise when he had the chance. I learned that his chief of staff had sold the American Public down the road in a behind the scenes backroom deal with Big Medicine, PhRMA, and AHIP. The last straw was when both of them had the chance to require a certain Majority leader to force an up-or-down vote the way Bush and Cheney always did – and the BLEW that chance!
Now I am a Sick, Sick Man, and my insurance company won’t cover my illness. They say relying to my detriment on the Promises of Slick Politicians is a pre-existing condition, one that is entirely my own fault. Coverage Denied!
The ONLY hope for me is a reform bill with a ROBUST PUBLIC OPTION, with NO triggers, NO opt outs, and NO co-ops!
Please, Madame Secretary – can you help me?”
Seems like i once heard she really does have some sort of problem / health condition with her voice box.
yup,in designer ill fitting garb
LOL. I always thought she looked a little like Olive Oil on the Popeye cartoon.
N O T H I N G is worse than MADAME SARAHs screeching
aieh@#$%!!!!
lol
During the Bush years, everytime one of these GOP cretins would spout off on TV, all I could think of was “War Criminals.” Now, when these same people as well as Dems like Baucus, Bill Nelson, Conrad, Lincoln, Landrieu, Liberman show up, all I can think of is “Healthcare Criminal.” All of them are death merchants whose role in suffering and the destruction of families cannot be overstated.
murder and mayhem inc
more
Source: The Guardian
A pair of maverick Bear Stearns hedge fund managers lied to clients “over and over again” to protect their multimillion dollar pay cheques, exchanging secret emails to orchestrate a $1.6bn fraud as their funds imploded in the global financial crisis, a US jury heard yesterday (Wednesday).
At a federal court in the New York borough of Brooklyn, financiers Ralph Cioffi and Matthew Tannin became the first Wall Street bankers to stand trial in a criminal case arising from the credit crunch. The men, who protest their innocence, are accused of hiding the true picture from clients as their two high-flying hedge funds fell to earth – an event which ultimately contributed to the collapse of the 85-year-old brokerage Bear Stearns.
Prosecuting counsel Patrick Sinclair told jurors that the duo deceived investors “from France to Chicago, from Switzerland to right here in Brooklyn”, and flouted the “special relationship of trust” that comes with looking after other peoples’ money.
… Cioffi, 53, and Tannin, 48, ran two Bear Stearns funds which, at their peak, managed $20bn of assets. During the good times, the court heard that they were well rewarded – Cioffi, a senior fund manager, earned a total of $32m in 2005 and 2006 while Tannin, who has described himself as the “little cheese” of the two, received $4.4m.
Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/oct/14/bear-ste...
It is hard to read these statements. For instance “Collins said she worries the coverage won’t be affordable for many families and small businesses”; who is she talking about, rich families or poor families? Sounds like a lot of double speak. The general public could live without a “Public Option” only if the insurance industry was so regulated that it became in effect a public option, as is the case in Switzerland, where executives do not make multi-million salaries and bonuses.