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More new guitarists?
So you will run out of new finds, when?
Hey Suz!
hey newton — how’s the bay area besides wet?
Strong rain all day. No wind – none. It is just what we needed.
You freezin your deck off up there yet?
nope – warmed up starting yesterday. only got 1/4″ of rain up here. more rain and some wind forecast for later tonight — and another storm thursday and another saturday.
This place was thirsty. Another day of what we had today and we will be at about a third of the average rainfall for the year. It literally rained non-stop from about 3am until 3 hours ago.
Man, it was windy down here – all day. Wet and windy. Doom despair and agony on me – deep, dark depression, excessive misery…
we had a dry year ourselves — i only got something like 43 inches when our average is 70.
we could use the rain. i think there are only a few places that couldn’t.
hey that guy – i love storms like that — they make me feel so alive with the weather so wild.
Not me. I hate winter and this was a solid blast. I wish I could have slept all day.
NBC Late Nite with Jimmy Fallon is pretty funny. Fallon and Samberg and others from SNL!!!
hey ce — how’s ohio tonight?
Dude, you know what you have to do.
Michigan can’t decide if it wants to be fall or winter. We’ve had frost on everything already, no snow. But i won’t be surprised if halloween has flurries like it did last year.
36F temperatures at night as of late. *wraps up in the fleece throw in her chair*
Suzanne,
It is a colorful fall here! In just days we went from green to red, orange, yellow and brown. I’ve only been back a week, and it went from summer to fall in days. And temps in 50’s and 40’s even! We are ordering firewood this week.
hey alias. i’m in fleece myself and *gasp* warm socks and it is 50 outside.
Is this the start of your rainy season?
we are starting to show color ourselves. my wood guy brought me some yesterday, stacked it up next to the fireplace, and said he will be back with more later this week and told me to call if i ran low before then.
hey things – how’s seattle tonight?
Yeah, but this place – we never, ever get 16 hours of steady rain. It just doesn’t happen. We get a couple of hours and it clears, and the next day the same thing, then it’s sunny for a week.
Go to sleep?
Plant something.
Any Thunder and Lighting I love being scared when the Thunder detonates right near your house. Seattle maybe once twice a year thunder, and lightening so far away your not sure its lightening.
i’m so jealous – i love thunder and lightning.
Plenty of color locally for me, and its not quite yet at peak. Just more crisp falls as of late in this state.
I’m trying ot wind down a bit from a gig i had tonight. Had a ball playing bouncy japanese pop and rock, with a few english tracks here and there. Also with my new genre to explore. Korean pop. *evil grin* Yes, i’mma music geek. :P Never met a song in another language i didn’t like at this point. Behehe. ^_^ My audience had a great time too.
Wind Rain cold almost icy rain in the day cold seems early this year.
woohoo! such fun!
Hi pups!
Suz and Chris, Just arrived. I was busily writing y’all replies on lisa’s thread totally oblivious to what time it was.
hey sunny – how ya doing tonight?
Well welcome to the wonderful world of sump pumps to pump water out of the basement, portable generators, and stocking bottled water as local wells and rivers get all kinds of surface chemicals swept in.
Still I’m hoping next year the crops grooow if you guys get enough rain.
Dang, Suz.
That was vibrant!
Who ARE them guys?
Aside from Bloomfield and Bishop . . . well . .
*G*
Sustained winds for 5 hours over 45mph, and we got 2.5″ of rain in less than 24 hours.
Power off and on all day and out for three hours in the after noon.
LOVE IT! *G*
Need the water, for sure. *G*
Howdy Ya Pups! *G*
Where the crops grow is in the valley and the southland (where everything is monsoon crops like cotton – Christ, California chose a desert to grow cotton!). I don’t know how much rain they got down there, but they need a lot more than our requirements.
do the google dood (laughing) malo and indigenous have been around for a while — they have a great cover of shame shame shame and i love their number 9 number 9. chris — i know you have heard chris before.
check out their websites — the band names in the post link to their sites
Hey gal! Glad you are here…
Weather patterns should change if Al Gore is right maybe Northern California gets rain now? I admit until a new balance is reached no change in weather is likely stable. Still I do like when things grow.
Its great to walk against constant winds like that. Provided you have no where to get to in a hurry:)
Too many bad experiences with lightning here. I respect it – I do not like it.
i like thunder and lightning when i’m all cozy inside with a good fire going. out in a car… not so much.
Michigan’s idea of ’stable’ is frightening to tamer states like California and Washington. :P Then again, the lakes make their own weather, when it isn’t being throttled by fronts from the arctic by way of canada.
Growing is great, and if the rain sustained it, I say go for it.
But CA is dividing up pumped water to ag districts based on corporate-run farming, and the golden rule is as it always has been – corporate farmers get water pumped to them at the exclusion of smaller operations, communities fail, the little guy gets not just squeezed but squeezed out, and suddenly every tomato and apple grown in the state is owned by a multi-billion dollar parent company. It’s kind of sinful.
I know Malo, and the OTHER Santana. Jorge. ;-)
I know Indiginous, too. From KPIG.
Just don’t know them two git pickers, fine stuff they shared!
Fine jammin! *G*
Respect yes, Scared… sometimes but I do miss it, I miss 3 inches of rain one day and maybe another 2 inches next week as flood warnings fill the news, I miss wind that knocks down Oaks and whistles through the caulk on windows pushing rain in.
was wondering dood… :) is where i first heard either of em.
Northern Illinois I know what you say:)
Yes, and even more Monsanto than that.
I detest what’s going on in CA.
It’s corporatization by big biz is what’s killin us, here, and the nation.
I’m agin it all.
Yer one step ahead of me . . . again. *G*
I’ll hafta look for some old shit from Winterland or something, to rock yer soul.
*G*
Sky gets weird colors air smells funny tornado weather you drive fast. When you can’t see out your windshield from the rain pull over being scared a little does make a person feel alive.
Sure.
Listen, you want to grow stuff in a desert? Citrus! Or Soy beans.
But cotton? Drive down I5 towards SoCal and all you see for a bazillion miles is cotton. What are they thinking?
ohhhhh i could use some soothing tonight… am jittery as if there was something wrong on the internets or something
Agreed its evil. Still I do hope things grow there without pumping water that might save the small farmer.
You would! :D
newton, i love driving by the date farms down around the salton sea. the sea is ugly and smells horrible but the date farms are lovely.
Happy Late Late Night, FIREDOGS!
I finally got my most recent diary post up: Rep. Weiner’s “Stand up for the Public Option!”
Hi Suz, TCU, newt, Larue, and everyone!
hey k-town- how’s ktown tonight?
Yeah grow Hemp!
Once again, it’s ridiculously late. I’m not sleeping. And I’m totally screwed (not in the good way).
Suz, how about this?
Better now that I finally got that post up.
Anyone here have a major problem with Weiner?
It is sinful. Terrible for crop diversity, organic growers, etc. Pisses me off every time I hear the term small farmers out of the mouths of politicians.
Rare to get a good vegetable in Florida in the winter. Varieties grown are designed for commercial expedience.
I can’t remember being near the Salton Sea, but I’m told that it is unmistakably stinky.
From the map, it sure looks like the same ag story.
Whats it smell like pollution if so what kind Sewage, Petrochemicals or the ever popular both. Are there commercially used chemicals that are not some form of petrochemical?
Howdy
LL!!!!!
Response to ThingsComeUndone @ 62
Hola. I need sleep!
Does Cotton need a lot of water to grow?
Suz!!!! *g*
girlfriend, you come sit down right here next to me and dish. how ya been? how’s va tonight?
Your right about smelling tornadoes. Difficult to describe, but it’s real. Like an ultra fresh odor, coupled with an eerie stillness.
Suz, what was the big hit Indiginous had on KPIG. Ohhh, long about late 90’s or early ’00’s? Can’t find what I’m thinkin on youtube . . .
Help?
why do people put *g* in their comments. see it all the time. no idea what it means.
You won’t get an argument from me, if you could do it without strangling real food crops, and real farmers.
I used to live in Davis, and wherever you went beyond the inner city limit, tomatoes. Miles and miles of tomatoes. But they are all gone now, in favor of condos, and the ag interests just bought up all the smaller operations and moved them south-east… into what could be mistaken for the Mojave Desert, if you were mapless.
shame shame shame and number 9 number 9 were two that got good rotation. neither one of which is on utubes. i’ve been looking for shame shame shame for when the d’s fold and cave next but a search via google fails to find any videos.
*pulling up a chair* Everything’s good here in VA, have been really busy with work as usual — but I’m taking the odd days of leave here and there to enjoy the autumn weather lately :-) You’ve been putting up some really lovely pics over at your place…looks utterly beautiful out there this time of year.
and the sky gets a sick color. the air feels charged and ya can smell something like ozone in the air.
Yields of seed and lint are proportionate to climate and water conditions, but more so than, say, oranges. But there are places where you should not grow anything, and this is the very definition of wasteful.
thanks ll. you got color showing?
True that you don’t smell you notice the lack the stillness
Suz !
Evenin’ all !
Are our CaliPups safe ?
*g* Grinning, kind of like :) sideways smiley face
petro! how’s toronto tonight?
They ain’t, iz dey . . . *G*
Done that drive in the 90’s.
Not since.
Water is gonna be the biggest thang since oil.
And soon. If not already.
People will fight over water, in CA. And die for it.
It’s the stuff of our USA break up.
Comin, soon, to us all.
Not so much where I am, yet — I need to take a road trip next week to the valley, or even WV, to see some peak colors.
Tomatoes need water lots and they grow them in a desert? Is Famine of the 4 horsemen fame setting up our farm policy?
Tonight’s cover-charge for Canukites with excellent health care is…
I’m thinking…
Cali also chose to grow Rice in the Desert !
How are ya, buddy ?
Likely it’s the Senate Finance Committee Bill, and where we are heading for the House and Senate Committee deliberations on HC REform.
Or maybe it’s financial reform, or war reform.
Lots to be nervous about, gal.
We did Bailey’s and Hot Chocolate tonite.
To comfort us.
*G*
we are about a week and a half away from ‘prime’. makes the drive into town so lovely — all the trees (except the sitka spruce and other evergreens) leaves so vibrant.
Grinning is good! But I thought it was some super-cool codespeak thing. Oh, well.
Suz, did you see my diary post from yesterday about my argument with the south east regional director of CBR?
That’s right, rice.
I’m pissed but ready for more.
You guys getting frigid up there yet?
Famine is setting us up He is behind the Big Agricultural Companies!
Autumn is my favorite time of year for sure — aside from the colors, I just love the way the air smells…crisp and clean, and the wood smoke :-)
Hey you ! How’s my Belgian Brew compatriot doing ?
nope.. yesterday was my day off and i was off doing real life stuff — getting ready to hunker down just in case.
Apropos of nothing – Nobody Loves Me Like My Mother
…heard it on my XM blues channel while driving around tonight
((( Petro! ))) Doing fine here, and you? Lately I’ve been into the Dogfish Head ales ;-)
i love each new season — but agree about autumn and smells. the air is so crisp ya could fold it and ya can see your breath. the smell of wood smoke, and stews and chili in the air instead of bbq and charcoal.
It’s funny I should remember this now, but when the econ jumped into the crapper last year, you know what people raided CostCo for? Rice. They bought more rice than CostCo could hope to stock. Imagine how much rice we are talking about, if CostCo could come nowhere near to keeping up…
Nope, not in my earworm problem.
Another one. Maybe ‘03 . . . youtube don’t show it. I’ll know it when I hear it.
Loved it, wish I had a CLUE as to what it was. . . . sigh.
F- f- frizzin’ … below freezing in fact. We’ve had lots of wind and rain, so most of our Fall Color is on the ground already. Old man Winter is knocking on the Door …
ahhhh bb thanks ll – great tune
Hmmm? Big Agricultural Companies are the Horseman Famine, Darth is the Horseman of War (loosing a war at least)
oh crap.. that was supposed to be in reply to ll
I remember I talked about it in the comments Seattle was having a rice shortage.
America spends about 11% of GDP on Health Care, right ? That’s a lot of moolah to take away from the Robber Barons and they’re going to put up one heck of a fight.
In the end, though, there will be a strong Public Option .. or the Dems crash and burn in ‘10 & ‘12, perhaps beyond that.
;-) That reminds me, I need to think about dragging out the crock pot soon and start making chili and stuff
Let’s just say the Brewskys are tucked away and the Single Malt & Grand Marnier have been moved to the front …
It’s a morose joke now – all those folks stocking up for the Econopocalypse – they now have garages brimming with… sacks of rice.
True but we have to win we can’t afford so much unproductive spending.
Hmmm … the only one that’s available up here is DOGFISH HEAD 60 MINUTE IPA … should I try it ?
i already have a pot of turkey noodle bagged and in the freezer. made a big pot of pasta e frigiol (or however the hall ya spell fra-zool)that goes into containers and joins it.
Yes definitely — and if you ever see the 90 minute, do try that too!
Well if the Midwest got the rain you got during planting season it would have been a smart move.
In drought-stricken California, there’s a move afoot to… grow rice tailored to the Asian menu to compete with rice actually grown in Asia. Asian countries are quietly pissed as hell.
Pistachios I can understand, dates I can understand. But more rice…
That was a perfect example of something that happens in third world countries … suppliers with overstock start a rumor that *product X* is in tight supply. Panic ensues and people run out to buy up as much of it before it runs out, then a real shortage happens and prices zoom upward. Last year, the Costco fiasco was with Jasmine Rice, then the Indians got into the act with Basmati Rice, then Flour.
People were buying enough stock to last a whole year, sometimes more … insanity !
Don’t recall details, but I recall that rice on the international market was screwed from naked short selling.
And THAT drove up the price, and shorted the market, for production, somehow.
And all THAT, created a run on rice for Costco.
And drove UP the price, for those who were manipulating the market.
See http://www.deepcapture.com/ for details as to how this manipulation is done.
*G*
My point is, the rice scam was fabricated, by the Wall Street Markets.
Not by production or consumption.
the air feels charged
Exactly. Perfect description of the spooky feeling.
Me – I wish there were a run on Silk™ Chocolate soy milk.
mmmmmmmmmmmmm
Mmmm, pasta e fagiole (I think that’s how it’s spelled) — perfect for autumn and winter. In cold weather I’m all about soups and stews.
Hoss, there is NO other way to spin this, and the WH, Congress, and the corps know it.
Either we win, or we lose so bad on this we’re indentured forever.
Our future ability to work and earn a decent living and get healthcare is at stake.
This is IT.
We got a month or two to tell.
Here’s hoping, huh. *G*
and it isn’t a good charged. the kinda that gives ya a sour stomach and a feeling of dread as the hairs on the back of your neck stand up. ya start looking around, horizon to horizon, looking for trouble cause ya know its coming.
It’s long, but reads fast. If you have a moment, my diary entry yesterday was CBR’s Genocide Awareness Project (GAP) Director Closes His Eyes to Death & Suffering.
I also thanked you over at the diary post re Weiner’s new site. Let me also thank you again for cutting me slack the night we met, the night when my confusion turned into an epiphany and I realized how lucky I was to have found Jane Hamsher and all of you.
———
And TCU, my response to your questions at the diary post:
He did really well. But you’re right about the way he was treated.
The “fair and balanced” interview at Faux ‘news’ was, first, a segment grilling Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-NY) and thrashing each point he made, followed by a segment shining smiles at Rep. Tom Price (R-GA) and giving him extended airtime to twist the facts uninterrupted.
The funny thing is, Weiner beat the real moron of Faux ‘news’ in the debate and slipped in the reference to his new website, to boot.
——-
g’nite. i really need sleep.
that’s the stuff – ya spell better than i do – would be lost without spellcheck :) and yeah, soups, stews, cassaroles. hearty food to warm ya from the inside out
I’m sure you are right. But to meet even a run-demand, you have to have a helluva lot of rice just sitting around. And California had a helluva lot of rice just sitting around.
newt I’m with ya on that — and the Silk Very Vanilla :-)
Spell it? What the phook IS it?
I gather it’s NOT rolled and stuffed veal.
*rolleyes*
sleep well. we were all rookies here once and we learn from each other. g’nite ktown
Agreed ! This will be another stimulus once the Trillions are spent giving health services, instead of lining the pockets of Insurance Execs.
From there, the fight moves to the Climate, which will create another huge stimulus for Green Energy.
Basically, ObamaCo are moving Trillions away from Greedy Robber Barons and back to reg’lar folk. I have a feeling that, 8 years hence, we will look back and say, “Wow, why didn’t this get done a long time ago ?”
Let me encourage you who might not have seen it earlier to please take a look at Rep. Weiner’s “Stand up for the Public Option!” and sign his petition.
It’ll only take a moment!
now, g’nite everyone!
Is that a Darker Beer, or does it take 30 minutes longer to brew ? *g*
Addictive. And the vanilla – love it, too.
Oh sheet, it’s late, gotta go…thanks Suz, glad to catch up a little bit. Good night all!
g;nite ll — nice seeing your fonts again
nite LL
Today I hear two thing on talk radio. Sean Hannity arguing for rich people “I got a job at a ship yard because rich people were buying yachts!”
and Brian Sussman on KSFO arguing about health care with someone explaining that everyone has health care in America, there are plenty of programs for them to get health care. The caller was talking about the care he got in the UK and Sussman argued that they were having problems with it. At that point the caller didn’t have the stats to back up that Sussman didn’t know what he was talking about. The one or two opportunities that callers have to get the real story out and the hosts nail them or cut them off.
Hiya pups.
Home from work. The weather has been SO NICE!
hey spocko – like the followup post you did over at sem tonight.
Your being more Optimistic than me I like it Nite all
The Indians were pissed because the nutjobs in Cali went and patented Basmati Rice.
They moved the European Court, which overturned the Cali patents. Now there is a huge fight because some Americans patented some Indian Herbs. Of course, this did not exclude my field of yoga/meditation … some joker in Cali. patented most of the Yoga postures.
What a country !
hey et — love those pictures. the rose hips look purplish. does the cold do that to them? down here they are almost a scarlet
I’m looking for new soup recipes. I’m tired of my standard lentils and potato leek. I like really hearty soups.
I went to sonoma last weekend and about 20 pounds of apples. So far I’ve made on apple pie from scratch. The crust (out of Jim Dodge’s American Baker) came out great.
KSFO/KGO – advocates for
breadlines“health care fairs” since 1998.That really is what they are talking about.
Is it good ? I’ve never had it, I drink Almond Milk from time to time.
make some apple butter. real easy and it keeps in the fridge – i’ve made it before as christmas gifts. pretty easy recipe.
jeez
The only way this ever works is to make Politicians understand that their careers are in jeopardy if they screw up.
It is really good. Too good.
g’nite things
That does it … I’m getting some tomorrow. *g*
nite things
i am bailing out too
nite pups
thanks Suz
Thanks.
Where are the defamation lawsuits for Hannity and Limbaugh?
it was requested from thingscomeundone!
g’nite newton
{{{ LL }}}
We’ve got five kinds of rose hips, including the wild rose ones. These are the only ones that do that, so it isn’t the cold – they were that way before the first frost. They’re huge, bigger than a nickel. And they’re incredibly sweet. I want to make a chutney with them, rhubarb, beets and raspberries.
how cool. how do ya fix them?
Yes rice in CA was ’sitting around’.
But the manipulation of it was on Wall Street Trading, the unregulated trading that previous Glass-Steagall and and other regs used to prevent the ABUSE of, products sitting around.
You got a commidity?
Wall Street Barons will short sell it, nekked and more, drive the price down, buy insurance to HEDGE that loss, and bet on it’s comeback when they enable the comeback!
And in the meantime, they loot all our pensions, money markets, 401k’s, and savings, to USE our savings dollars to do so.
It’s the game. It’s why we are screwed. It’s why home mortgages and our savings are worthless.
The fuckers bought shit debt, bundled it, and sold it off to someone ELSE who would hold it and want to sell it off. Or wait for a HUGE bailout to mark it.
And that debt has NEVER been marked to market value, and never been written off. It sits there, ready to kill us all, again.
It’s a fuckin pyramid scam, and our president and our elected offals just bailed out the grifters and paid them NOT to go broke, and took OUR money and gave it away, clean and neat.
Transfer of wealth, no regulation.
And healthcare reform is headed the same way.
Mandates, but no public option for competition against the insurance companies.
Transfer of wealth.
Life is simple, don’t screw it up.
*G*
I was at a BBQ about a month ago and 2 Neocons were there, talking about how Obama was going to ruin the Best Health Care in the World, which America now enjoys.
I spent the better part of 2 hours yanking their Chain, much to the delight of all present.
Honestly, the only way to beat these guys is by using the Stephen Colbert tactic … it makes them look so stoopid that even their own friends can see it.
It is the exact same tactic I always use, when I do group meditation classes.
Wow, I wanna believe what you said.
But MY POV is that the transfer of wealth, and our hard work, is upwards, and is NOT trickling down.
Not at all.
WE’re FUCKED!
You got proof I can believe in???
I agree with you completely.
And that’s the pressure Jane and FDL has been putting on THEM, all along.
I’m for that pressure.
*G*
Oh, I completely agree that it’s always been trickling up. I do believe that Obama’s intentions are to move it the other way and that he will be largely successful in doing so.
What is going to be crucial is that, 8 years from now, the public pressure keeps up so that Single Payer becomes a reality. It really will be decided by which side fights harder.
Wow.
I so want to believe all that.
Needed me some inspiration tonight, so thanks Petro.
We hope on! *G*
And now, good nite good Pups, and thanks for all your thoughts.
‘Preciate all of yas . . . *G*
g’nite larue
Harry Reid is lagging behind in Nevada. His office should get thousands of call every day, saying that we will work for his opponent, unless he passes a robust public option.
FDL has enough info. on how he can do that, even if Rahm wants a weak Bill. In the fight for his seat, HoJo is not Reid’s BFF, ‘We the people’ are !
G’nite Larue !
You supply all the great eats and I’ll supply the inspiration … deal ?!! *g*
jane’s post on harry — wow she was on fire. harry’s gonna learn the hard way not to piss jane off
Execellent! (mr. burns voice)
Jane is terrific ! Congress and the White House know the growing force that Blogs like FDL are becoming.
We have to let Harry Reid know that we’re ready to sacrifice him as an example to other “Dems” … work for us or get fired !
oh yeah (in best ferris bueller voice)
It was a lot of fun for me … by the end of it, we three had ‘agreed’ that Obama was Osama’s Love Child, that he would convert every last Murkan to Islam, stop America’s favorite pasttime, replace Rushbo & Beck with Farrakhan & Ayers, etc. …
I haven’t fixed ‘em yet, but I just got some walnut oil, so I want to use that in the chutney. I’ll come back with a recipe if it works.
kewl. rosehips galore here. along with 7 apple trees.
Please do, it sounds amazing !
I miss big apple trees. The ones here are tiny. Moose eat them for lunch sometimes. The trees, not the apples.
I’ll have to try that. I really don’t like to argue. I like to pursuade people.
Egad … 3:14 a.m. in Frosty Toronto … G’nite all !
g’nite petro
It has served me well my whole life. Let me know how it works for you.
*poof*
i’ve seen deer up on their hind legs eating the apples on the trees. we have elk in the area but i’ve not seen any here on this property.
Apple-fed elk are the tastiest. We’re considering splitting a locally grain-fed elk with some friends.
the only time i had elk or venison was when i did the napa valley wine train back in the early 90’s. my entree had both as well as a 3rd wild meat i can’t remember.
Got lost reading about Orly Taitz’ latest. Thanks for the hospitality suz.
*poof*
g’nite sunny
time for me to head out. g’nite all and thanks for all the conversations tonight.
*poof*
The two pickers were Mato Nanji (on the left), guitarist for Indigenous, and the one in the middle was Chris Duarte.
Mato & his brother and sister (bass & drums) have been around for more than 10 years, and play a lot on the Native American circuit…since they are, er, Indigenous.
Duarte is sort of All That on the Chicago blues circuit.
Back to Mato. Yeah, all them bluesers do their requisite Hendrix covers, but Mato has this kind of rawness — a bit like Hendrix — that is frequently lacking in the other more studied covers done by the likes of Johnny Lang or even (gasp) the late SRV. Check out a 99 cover of Hendrix’s Voodoo Chile (Slight Return).
(I tried the embed code, but it appeared blocked here… .)
hi realfish — thanks for that link… wow and awesome :)
and yes, embeds are blocked in the comments.