Jonathan Landay is a good reporter and McClatchy is a reputable news organization (there are still a few), but this is a ridiculous story:
As the Obama administration reconsiders its Afghanistan policy, White House officials are minimizing warnings from the intelligence community, the military and the State Department about the risks of adopting a limited strategy focused on al Qaida, U.S. intelligence, diplomatic and military officials told McClatchy.
Got that? Intelligence, diplomatic and military officials think the White House isn’t listening enough to intelligence, diplomatic and military sources! Unpossible!
In just as uncanny a development, the sources interviewed for this story believe pretty much everything that would tend toward an escalation of forces along the line Stanley McChrystal desires–the Taliban is closely tied to Al Qaeda, they would offer the terrorists safe havens if they returned to power, they would help in plotting attacks abroad, etc. Almost all of the sources are anonymous, too, except for this guy:
The White House, as well as Congress and U.S. military, “have got to level with the American people, and they are not doing it,” said Marvin Weinbaum, a former State Department intelligence analyst now with the Middle East Institute. “They are taking the easy way out by focusing on the narrow interest of protecting the homeland” from al Qaida.
Yeah, that “narrow interest,” protecting people from harm and such. How dare they abandon the much more necessary and realizable goal of turning Afghanistan into a vibrant representative democracy!
The problem with any story about this region that focuses on intelligence reports is that the intelligence can easily offer contradictory information:
Nearly all of the insurgents battling US and NATO troops in Afghanistan are not religiously motivated Taliban and Al Qaeda warriors, but a new generation of tribal fighters vying for control of territory, mineral wealth, and smuggling routes, according to summaries of new US intelligence reports.
Some of the major insurgent groups, including one responsible for a spate of recent American casualties, actually opposed the Taliban’s harsh Islamic government in Afghanistan during the 1990s, according to the reports, described by US officials under the condition they not be identified.
“Ninety percent is a tribal, localized insurgency,” said one US intelligence official in Washington who helped draft the assessments. “Ten percent are hardcore ideologues fighting for the Taliban.”
Both of these stories feature advocates for a particular policy using traditional media as a pass-through to leak intelligence favorable to their side. But the McClatchy story is so brazen in a “they’re not listening to our Chicken Little act!” way, that it really shouldn’t have been published by any self-respecting newspaper.
Instead of arguing the intelligence, argue the policy. And in that respect, you have a choice between Dianne “do whatever the general says” Feinstein, or Russ “let’s actually make a decision based on achievable goals” Feingold. Only one perspective gets on the Sunday shows, however.



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The same Jokers who said nothing when Bush said Iraq had ties to Ossama? Who said nothing when the President pulled troops out of Afghanistan to attack Iraq? Who said nothing when the President said Iraq had WMD.
Who said nothing when Bush said Mission Accomplished?
Fire these Jokers and just get a Ouji board chances are the Ouji board won’t be wrong all of the time.
If these experts were so good then the Surge would have worked and McCain would be President.
I’m sure that all these Intelligence, Diplomatic, and Military officials all supported Bush. In other words they were wrong about everything for 8 years.
Asking these sources what was their view on these issues when Bush ran things would be something a real reporter would ask.
Is it necessary? Is it realizable? Really?
Ask this moron the next question how do we pay for all these troops? Ask this moron if politically even the Pro War Republicans will support a tax increase in a recession.
More debt spending to finance the war will break the Dollar and drive interest rates through the roof does this source want to relive the 70′s?
Democracy I thought our guy stole the election? …Oh sorry it must be a typo he must have meant Bushocracy where elections are stolen all the time.
Yeah, I was kidding. Sometimes my sarcasm is a bit dry. :)
The tribes who fought the Taliban were our allies and now we are loosing them? But we still think we can win?
I’m sure Condi had said those exact same words so I wasn’t sure:)
We need to ask the Generals to talk to the Pro War GOP and say you all have to vote for a tax increase to support the war or its over!
You all need to vote for a tax increase on the rich to pay for the war and pay for healthcare now for everyone or the President will Veto all war spending that does not include money to bring the troops home now.
You need to all vote for the tax increase on the rich right now before a single Democrat votes or there will be no deal.
Such is the way a Real Chicago Fixer leans on Congress Rahm so take notes!.
OT, one thing that I like about FDL is that we are frequently given actions we can take, petitions to sign, critters to call and so forth. It’s very important to turn concern and anger into action. The pups are well informed but the fact that they are become ACTION pups is crucial to getting change. Jane is a giant in this.
We need more action.
Agreed.
Maybe Afghanistan does not want Americans in Afghanistan doing democracy missionary work. After what befell Iraq American democracy missionary work does not really seem very sincere or capable of convincing the natives it is really great—really it is—never mind Xe or that torture stuff.
Maybe WashingtonDC,the Pentagon,the CIA and some big and wealthy corporatists are not telling the truth as to why Afghanistan is on the you get our democracy like it or not list?
There is a lot of energy to be exploited in lands north of Afghanistan that will require pipelines,supply lines and stable investment framing all of which are powering WashingtonDCs interest in Afghanistan which goes back to the Bill Clinton WH. George W. Bush and Dick Cheney have fingerprints all over this to be sure.
This is not about Afghanis getting democracy. This is about resource exploitation/transit security or gaining control of lands bordering Iran to the east as well as from Iraq to the west of Iran in order to present Iran with very real military threats as WashingtonDC may desire or does desire to fulfil.
Then there is the matter of Pakistan and that is not independent of above considerations either.
It would be more useful if the Pentagon would stop the lie telling for the hidden interests behind what is really driving this AF-Pak conflict seeking on part of WashingtonDC.
Are there any real American patriots in the Pentagon capable of telling the truth? Any?
I want someone in the press willing to find a single General willing to go on the record about how are we going to pay for these wars.
Thats Congress’s job won’t work the Pentagon needs to plan for a budget because 7 years of wild war spending IS IT.
If the Generals can’t win a war in 7 years then its time to admit defeat! Worlds Last Super Power, Best Army in the World…and they still lose!
In other countries there Pensions and even their lives would be gone!
But here they have the gall to demand One More Chance!
This sounds like a Country song about an ex husband who never did any good creepin around the back door screaming One More Chance!
One More Chance
Why I thought the Mission was accomplished?
Your not listening to me the Generals, the Diplomats the Intelligence agencies all say that this Time I’m goin Win
Generals, Diplomats, Intelligence agencies are you off your meds again are those the voices in your head talkin
or you drunk friends at the bar.?
We can win this time all I need are 40,000 more troops I mean Lottery Tickets!
Damm I thought fallin for Greenspan’s Housing bubble con was as dumb as you went!
I think I need to read more Generals arguing for more troops to get the lines I need to finish this song but I worry teh stupid might be catching.
And only one perspective gets a pay off for their spouse.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2003/04/22/MN310531.DTL
That should reassure people who are sending their children off to die.
“The problem with any story about this region that focuses on intelligence reports is that the intelligence can easily offer contradictory information:”
The real problem with any story about this region that focuses on intelligence reports is that in general, the US intelligence community doesn’t know shit about the region.
Isn’t it amazing how they scream about wasted tax dollars and government being too big and then they turn around and say “Let’s spend more!”?
I want to argue the objective.
Does that come under policy? Sincere question.
(edit: rely not aimed at post 8. sorry)