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	<title>Comments on: Late Night: Nice Health Coverage You Got There. Be a Shame If Somethin&#8217; Happened to It.</title>
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		<title>By: texasaggie</title>
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		<dc:creator>texasaggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What no one seems to have noticed is that the kid is NOT fat.  He is big.  His weight for his length is normal.  He is just longer and therefore heavier than more than 95% of the kids the same age. 

The insurance company MIGHT have an argument if they said they wouldn&#039;t insure kids who were obese, but that&#039;s not the case here and they should be smart enough to know it.  I suspect, in my cynical mind, that they just didn&#039;t want to add another kid under the parents&#039; policy without having some sort of an excuse to drastically jack up the premiums.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What no one seems to have noticed is that the kid is NOT fat.  He is big.  His weight for his length is normal.  He is just longer and therefore heavier than more than 95% of the kids the same age. </p>
<p>The insurance company MIGHT have an argument if they said they wouldn&#8217;t insure kids who were obese, but that&#8217;s not the case here and they should be smart enough to know it.  I suspect, in my cynical mind, that they just didn&#8217;t want to add another kid under the parents&#8217; policy without having some sort of an excuse to drastically jack up the premiums.</p>
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		<title>By: RBrudzynski</title>
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		<dc:creator>RBrudzynski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks as if the health insurance industry has set up President Obama&#039;s health care reform proposal for a double-pronged attack. If they can&#039;t kill it with higher fees and penalties on the poor and the middle class, they&#039;ll be able to jack up prices after the health care &quot;reform&quot; bill passes and blame the increase on President Obama!

Sadly, President Obama has failed to fight for a strong public option designed to keep costs and prices down. Once the bill passes, the sky will be the limit for health insurance premiums nd the insurance companies will be able to blame it on Congress and the President. &quot;Reform&quot; without price controls will enrage the middle class and the poor and lead to Democratic defeat in elections for a long time to come.

It&#039;s long past time for President Obama to come out of the closet on the public option. He can&#039;t merely &quot;believe&quot; in the public option - he has to fight for it or be punked by the insurance industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks as if the health insurance industry has set up President Obama&#8217;s health care reform proposal for a double-pronged attack. If they can&#8217;t kill it with higher fees and penalties on the poor and the middle class, they&#8217;ll be able to jack up prices after the health care &#8220;reform&#8221; bill passes and blame the increase on President Obama!</p>
<p>Sadly, President Obama has failed to fight for a strong public option designed to keep costs and prices down. Once the bill passes, the sky will be the limit for health insurance premiums nd the insurance companies will be able to blame it on Congress and the President. &#8220;Reform&#8221; without price controls will enrage the middle class and the poor and lead to Democratic defeat in elections for a long time to come.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s long past time for President Obama to come out of the closet on the public option. He can&#8217;t merely &#8220;believe&#8221; in the public option &#8211; he has to fight for it or be punked by the insurance industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Legion303</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/12/late-night-nice-health-coverage-you-got-there-be-a-shame-if-somethin-happened-to-it/#comment-1995383</link>
		<dc:creator>Legion303</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s even deeper than that, of course (and the reason so many people are up in arms): the insurance companies are using customer money to lobby officials to allow them (the companies) to &lt;strong&gt;keep killing customers&lt;/strong&gt;. This is why I want health care reform, not health insurance reform. The only health insurance reform I want to see is for the CEOs and insurance adjusters to be shipped off to the Hague for crimes against humanity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s even deeper than that, of course (and the reason so many people are up in arms): the insurance companies are using customer money to lobby officials to allow them (the companies) to <strong>keep killing customers</strong>. This is why I want health care reform, not health insurance reform. The only health insurance reform I want to see is for the CEOs and insurance adjusters to be shipped off to the Hague for crimes against humanity.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
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		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Oh come on. We could only pray that the health insurance cartel would stop paying claims. Huge news item. Public finally wakes up and sees that the industry has been holding us ALL hostage. It would be the best thing that ever happened for single payer.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

done last month. barely covered anywhere. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.calnurses.org/media-center/press-releases/2009/september/california-s-real-death-panels-insurers-deny-21-of-claims.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;California&#039;s Real Death Panels: Insurers Deny 21% of Claims&lt;/a&gt;

if we want this stuff covered, we&#039;re going to have to amplify the message. because there are a lot of people who have signed on to not covering single payer related news.

single payer is not &quot;feasible&quot; -- because the dems want ahip to continue to fund the dems and not the republicans (which is what would happen if the dems seriously took them on). so the dems and their allies are committed to protecting ahip. obama may not do 11 dimensional chess, but his administration sure does multi level kabuki.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Oh come on. We could only pray that the health insurance cartel would stop paying claims. Huge news item. Public finally wakes up and sees that the industry has been holding us ALL hostage. It would be the best thing that ever happened for single payer.</p></blockquote>
<p>done last month. barely covered anywhere. <a href="http://www.calnurses.org/media-center/press-releases/2009/september/california-s-real-death-panels-insurers-deny-21-of-claims.html" rel="nofollow">California&#8217;s Real Death Panels: Insurers Deny 21% of Claims</a></p>
<p>if we want this stuff covered, we&#8217;re going to have to amplify the message. because there are a lot of people who have signed on to not covering single payer related news.</p>
<p>single payer is not &#8220;feasible&#8221; &#8212; because the dems want ahip to continue to fund the dems and not the republicans (which is what would happen if the dems seriously took them on). so the dems and their allies are committed to protecting ahip. obama may not do 11 dimensional chess, but his administration sure does multi level kabuki.</p>
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		<title>By: GDC707</title>
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		<dc:creator>GDC707</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh come on. We could only pray that the health insurance cartel would stop paying claims. Huge news item. Public finally wakes up and sees that the industry has been holding us ALL hostage. It would be the best thing that ever happened for single payer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh come on. We could only pray that the health insurance cartel would stop paying claims. Huge news item. Public finally wakes up and sees that the industry has been holding us ALL hostage. It would be the best thing that ever happened for single payer.</p>
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		<title>By: GDC707</title>
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		<dc:creator>GDC707</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yesssssss.   But how viable is this Mccarran proposal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yesssssss.   But how viable is this Mccarran proposal?</p>
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		<title>By: GDC707</title>
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		<dc:creator>GDC707</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We here in the medical field have an old joke line that goes &quot;this would be a pretty good job- if it wasn&#039;t for all these sick people.&quot; But at least for us it really was just a joke. For the insurance co&#039;s it isn&#039;t a joke and it sure as heck ain&#039;t funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We here in the medical field have an old joke line that goes &#8220;this would be a pretty good job- if it wasn&#8217;t for all these sick people.&#8221; But at least for us it really was just a joke. For the insurance co&#8217;s it isn&#8217;t a joke and it sure as heck ain&#8217;t funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Legion303</title>
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		<dc:creator>Legion303</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since they&#039;ve declared war on America, it is up to each American to defend his or her country. I know what I&#039;ll do if my insurance company jacks up rates by 111%, and it won&#039;t be pretty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since they&#8217;ve declared war on America, it is up to each American to defend his or her country. I know what I&#8217;ll do if my insurance company jacks up rates by 111%, and it won&#8217;t be pretty.</p>
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		<title>By: Gasman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gasman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 06:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The insurance industry is in the business of denying coverage.  Period.  They are rapacious bastards that would gladly kill a few babies if it means they can maintain their pornographic profit margin.  You can bet that the upward limit of baby sizes that they will cover will get smaller and smaller.  They charge more and provide less and if left to their own devices will simply continue to do so until they bankrupt our nation. 

Give us a single payer system and fuck the insurance industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The insurance industry is in the business of denying coverage.  Period.  They are rapacious bastards that would gladly kill a few babies if it means they can maintain their pornographic profit margin.  You can bet that the upward limit of baby sizes that they will cover will get smaller and smaller.  They charge more and provide less and if left to their own devices will simply continue to do so until they bankrupt our nation. </p>
<p>Give us a single payer system and fuck the insurance industry.</p>
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		<title>By: iremember54</title>
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		<dc:creator>iremember54</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 05:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The healthcare Industry is smarter than the American People, they tell the Congress loudly what they want. 
Three hundered million of us and we are blogging about healthcare, complaining about what they are talking about, and hoping the give us something with our money.
We aren&#039;t making a fuss, being heard, or trying to even influence what&#039;s going on. We haven&#039;t threatened to not re-elect them, or even bothered them to much. When they had town halls we went and listened to them tell us, not us tell them.
We elected these retards, and allow them to tell us what&#039;s what. We forget they are suposed to be our representatives, not the insurance companies reps. We are sitting back waiting to see what these 535 retards are going to give us, saying we can do nothing about it, and willing to live with what they shove at us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The healthcare Industry is smarter than the American People, they tell the Congress loudly what they want.<br />
Three hundered million of us and we are blogging about healthcare, complaining about what they are talking about, and hoping the give us something with our money.<br />
We aren&#8217;t making a fuss, being heard, or trying to even influence what&#8217;s going on. We haven&#8217;t threatened to not re-elect them, or even bothered them to much. When they had town halls we went and listened to them tell us, not us tell them.<br />
We elected these retards, and allow them to tell us what&#8217;s what. We forget they are suposed to be our representatives, not the insurance companies reps. We are sitting back waiting to see what these 535 retards are going to give us, saying we can do nothing about it, and willing to live with what they shove at us.</p>
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