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	<title>Comments on: Early Morning Swim</title>
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		<title>By: gtomkins</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/12/early-morning-swim-203/#comment-1994864</link>
		<dc:creator>gtomkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Medicare for All

One of the political advantages to single payer, quite aside from it being thr best policy, and quite aside from it having the political benefit of actually giving the majority of the electorate that is currently insured the tangible benefit of lowered premiums, is that it is the only plan that could be implemented immediately.  Medicare provides an apparatus that is already up and running to collect premiums and pay claims.  Not many working people would have to be enrolled for premium coillection, since almost all of us are already signed up for the payroll deduction charged by the already-existing Medicare.  Only the amount deducted would have to be adjusted to add in the premium to add coverage for the before age 65 years to the coverage already in place for the after-65 years.  Similarly, almost all providers of medical services are already dealing with Medicare, and so would not need to add any staff to deal with collecting from Medicare.  In fact, they would be able to stop dealing with any other plan, saving them considerable admin costs.  

I don&#039;t see why Medicare for All wouldn&#039;t be able to start collecting premiums and paying claims within a month of the final passage of the implementing legislation.  The premium rates would have to be calculated, but the task of coming up with an interim rate could be assigned by presidential order to the existing Medicare bureaucracy, and could be accomplished before final passage of the law.  Some providers would have to register with Medicare, but that too could start before final passage.  Ditto for the few individuals not already having Medicare payments deducted from their paychecks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Medicare for All</p>
<p>One of the political advantages to single payer, quite aside from it being thr best policy, and quite aside from it having the political benefit of actually giving the majority of the electorate that is currently insured the tangible benefit of lowered premiums, is that it is the only plan that could be implemented immediately.  Medicare provides an apparatus that is already up and running to collect premiums and pay claims.  Not many working people would have to be enrolled for premium coillection, since almost all of us are already signed up for the payroll deduction charged by the already-existing Medicare.  Only the amount deducted would have to be adjusted to add in the premium to add coverage for the before age 65 years to the coverage already in place for the after-65 years.  Similarly, almost all providers of medical services are already dealing with Medicare, and so would not need to add any staff to deal with collecting from Medicare.  In fact, they would be able to stop dealing with any other plan, saving them considerable admin costs.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see why Medicare for All wouldn&#8217;t be able to start collecting premiums and paying claims within a month of the final passage of the implementing legislation.  The premium rates would have to be calculated, but the task of coming up with an interim rate could be assigned by presidential order to the existing Medicare bureaucracy, and could be accomplished before final passage of the law.  Some providers would have to register with Medicare, but that too could start before final passage.  Ditto for the few individuals not already having Medicare payments deducted from their paychecks.</p>
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		<title>By: egregious</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/12/early-morning-swim-203/#comment-1994833</link>
		<dc:creator>egregious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love Stockholm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love Stockholm</p>
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		<title>By: Bluetoe2</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/12/early-morning-swim-203/#comment-1994821</link>
		<dc:creator>Bluetoe2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stockholm is worth visiting any time of the year.  A beautiful city with educated, friendly, bilingual citizens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stockholm is worth visiting any time of the year.  A beautiful city with educated, friendly, bilingual citizens.</p>
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		<title>By: demi</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/12/early-morning-swim-203/#comment-1994819</link>
		<dc:creator>demi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have a fun and fullfilling fall day, my friend.  See you later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have a fun and fullfilling fall day, my friend.  See you later.</p>
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		<title>By: maggiesboy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/12/early-morning-swim-203/#comment-1994818</link>
		<dc:creator>maggiesboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is presented in Stockholm at an annual ceremony on December 10, the anniversary of Nobel&#039;s death.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is presented in Stockholm at an annual ceremony on December 10, the anniversary of Nobel&#8217;s death.</p>
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		<title>By: eCAHNomics</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/12/early-morning-swim-203/#comment-1994817</link>
		<dc:creator>eCAHNomics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m off for now. BBL.

Be well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m off for now. BBL.</p>
<p>Be well.</p>
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		<title>By: eCAHNomics</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/12/early-morning-swim-203/#comment-1994816</link>
		<dc:creator>eCAHNomics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Completely irrelevant Q. Why are the Nobels awarded in Sweden in December? Is that the only way they can get tourists there at that time of year?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Completely irrelevant Q. Why are the Nobels awarded in Sweden in December? Is that the only way they can get tourists there at that time of year?</p>
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		<title>By: foothillsmike</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/12/early-morning-swim-203/#comment-1994815</link>
		<dc:creator>foothillsmike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the same time that they inject themselves into the Limpball/NFL story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the same time that they inject themselves into the Limpball/NFL story.</p>
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		<title>By: WarOnWarOff</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/12/early-morning-swim-203/#comment-1994814</link>
		<dc:creator>WarOnWarOff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I uttered several profanities, but try to keep it soto voce so as to not scare the kitties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I uttered several profanities, but try to keep it soto voce so as to not scare the kitties.</p>
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		<title>By: twolf1</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/12/early-morning-swim-203/#comment-1994813</link>
		<dc:creator>twolf1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MSNBC just said that Al Sharpton is injecting himself in to the Limbaugh/NFL story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MSNBC just said that Al Sharpton is injecting himself in to the Limbaugh/NFL story.</p>
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