Morning all and thanks Elliott for keeping up with this.
Wow John King scored a exclusive there with John McShame. What a coup.

Thanks for the round-up, Elliott.

Thanks also for all your help yesterday. Problem is still there. Perhaps it is actually operator error but even with Cbl drivin the problem persists. Not a complaint, just a heads up for ya ta maybe pass on to the tech types.

‘Morning fhm. John King; carryin on the great tradition of Huntley and Brinkley and Cronkite and Morrow. Yeah, right. The most trusted name in news my ass.

Morning, just getting online, power was off; on Matthews this morning, the decision was that Pres. O will be earning his Nobel by dealing effectively with Iran and getting Russia and China onboard. On health care general agreement that keeping options open will be a good tactic, it will go through when all bills go to committee, and public option will be the choice even for Snowe. That he let it go on so long made the contrast with rushing into things, like war, and was a working plan.

Made a big deal about Letterman, but concluded he will survive because he’s not held to a standard of elected official. Footage of Lettrman on Clinton, Spitzer not making value judgment.

CNN’s State of the Union: “In an exclusive interview this Sunday, John speaks with Senator John McCain, R-Arizona

An exclusive!?

Riiight, McCain is seen on TV so rarely these days. The guy has practically become a recluse since his campaign went down in flames.

Good morning. No Rachael on MTP? (Boo)

Do not understand the media continuing to promote McAyn, he has demonstrated an appalling lack of basic understanding of affairs of state, why drag out the embarrassment? (Of course, the other putative heads of the right wing are hardly any less embarrassing.)

Well, as far as I can tell, its because they like him, and they like what he stands for (and what they think he stands for, as well).

And then there was the tire swing. Also.

Good morning, pups. It’s Dowd, Friedman and Rich today, with Kristof off. Mr. Kristof is off today. MoDo has puked out an excrescence called “Gandhi Wuz Robbed,” in which she tries (and fails) to channel President Clinton and W. Her premise for this thing is two former presidents hash out, and bond over, who should have been candidates for the Nobel Peace Prize. It’s a disgrace, and beneath contempt. The Moustache of Wisdom, in “The Peace (Keepers) Prize,” says President Obama accepted the Nobel Peace Prize with grace by honoring American leadership. In Oslo, he should take this instinct a step further. He’s all concern trolled over the “devaluation” of the Nobel Peace Prize… Mr. Rich says “Two Wrongs Make Another Fiasco,” and that the most surreal aspect of the Afghanistan debate is the Beltway’s credence given to the blunderers who got us into this mess.

Here they are.

The coffee and tea are ready, and I am SOOO stealing those blueberry ricotta pancakes! What a treat. Mr. Marion in Savannah have eye doctor and dentist appointments on Tuesday, so I said “what the hell, why not” and took tomorrow and Tuesday off. A 4-day weekend! I’m going to take my second cup of tea outside and revel in leisure. Have a great day.

Wasn’t there also something about donuts with sprinkles…?

32 F here at Chez Siberia. I’m hunkered down with cinnamon French toast and hot tea, an extremely large wool sweater and wool socks.

Our temperature here has climbed all the way up to 24 deg F. That is as warm as it got yesterday. Had to work up to run and get the paper.

We got down in the high 50s last night and Cbl was wrapped in a blanket with her wool hat on claiming “it’s freezing”.

George Will presumably is putting the finishing touches on an extended rant about Obama’s “narcissim”. The panelists will solemnly agree that the Novel will “hurt” Obama. I will not be tuning in.

Bill Kristol, Bill Gertz, Bob Woodward, Paul Gigot, Andrea Mitchell, and the always wrong Michael O’Hanlon. Once, again, we are forced to endure some of the Villagers favorite neo-cons, a buffet of war mongers who never disappoint their corporate overlords.

Or, I could listen to the Rolling Stones.

Good morning.

Only got down to 37 overnight in the mid-Hudson, Toby. Got the wood stove cranking. However, it’s a brilliant autumn day so I’ll bicycle to the farm stand in a couple of hours & then there’s an antique car show nearby. Anything is good enough to avoid talking heads.

Oh, I can’t bear it. Stooopid reporters on WJ talking about best case scenario in Afghanistan is 5 years of pitched fighting, as if that made any sense at all. Click. Gone. Me too, to read a book.

Frank Rich’s take-down of McCain was vicious. He won’t be invited to the Sedona ranch for the holidays, that’s for sure.

Good plan. We’re still working on the barn so that we can get the chickens inside for the winter.

Andrea actually was quite positive on Chris Matthews earlier; the whole panel agrees public option will be put back in the health care leg’n in committee, and will pass.

Nothing about Obama’s speech last night to the HRC or the demo going on today in D.C.

Typical.

Public option will mean nothing if it’s “opt out.”

Marion – if there’s ‘opt out’, then it isn’t national healthcare reform – it’s ‘blue state healthcare reform’. If there is no public option, then it isn’t healthcare reform..period.

And if there are mandates then there is nothing optional about it.

The NY Times moustachioed one romanticizes war:

If you want to see the true essence of America, visit any U.S. military outpost in Iraq or Afghanistan. You will meet young men and women of every race and religion who work together as one, far from their families, motivated chiefly by their mission to keep the peace and expand the borders of freedom.

Agreed, and I am expecting the conference committee to put health care back together again, literally. What the public wants has to be the standard.

If there is no public option, then it isn’t healthcare reform..period.

If there’s no public option, wouldn’t it just end up being stronger regulation of the private insurance industry plus a massive government subsidy for the private insurance companies?

How romantic. Stupid a**hole evidently the moustachioed one has never been anything but a tourist on this planet.

That “exclusive” cracks me up

Morning everyone
*stretch*yawn*

From what I’ve been hearing lately, it sounds like most of the young men and women in Afghanistan are depressed because they don’t know why they’re there and just want to come home.

He should have seen the CCC camps. And there the kids learned life skills.

No, when it changed over to The Seminal, the “drafts” tab disappeared from the user page. Can’t wait until they fix that.

Good morning, Elliott. Thanks for the round-up.

You see what that Chicken hawk is missing? Comments .
I guess he’s tired of the same old questions.

Tommy, How can you type with your hands covered in blood.
Tommy, How many dead is enough for you?
Tommy, Do you support a nuclear free middle East?

It must get boring.

I dropped a note to the CNN News Tips line to the effect that the US held a general election in November, which John McCain lost because the American public overwhelmingly rejected his views, vision, and judgment. I mentioned it to them because I was surprised that as a ‘news’ outlet CNN should probably have heard of this event.

Thx, Elliott, fortunately for me, I did my weekend posting Friday before the s**t hit the fan technicologically, something not easy for me to deal with. Hope all the trouble gets shot soon.

This guy sounds like a real wiener… err winner…

…Lt. Col. Lewis Sorley (Ret.) author, “A Better War: The Unexamined Victories and Final Tragedy of America’s Last Years in Vietnam.”

Morning Ya’ll from atop Mauna Kea…! ;-)

It’s what makes him think he’s a man. Mr Privilege meets the Salt of the Earth Americans.

Why is Michael O’Hanlon on TV? Why does he have a job?

Oh shit, ya mean we won in Viet Nam? Fits right in with the comment by the guy who brought Agent Orange into public view, “They killed me in Viet Nam and I didn’t know it.”

Mornin’, CT. Another day in the 90s ahead but there ain’t gonna be none of that fuckin’ snow here.

You could ask that very question about the Kagans and most of the Heritage/Brookings crew…!

Frank Rich has a must read today.

To appreciate this crowd’s spotless record of failure, consider its noisiest standard-bearer, John McCain. He made every wrong judgment call that could be made after 9/11. It’s not just that he echoed the Bush administration’s constant innuendos that Iraq collaborated with Al Qaeda’s attack on America. Or that he hyped the faulty W.M.D. evidence to the hysterical extreme of fingering Iraq for the anthrax attacks in Washington. Or that he promised we would win the Iraq war “easily.” Or that he predicted that the Sunnis and the Shiites would “probably get along” in post-Saddam Iraq because there was “not a history of clashes” between them.

It’s an exclusive!

Good, the words “past tense” work well wrt McAyn, also.

Lindsey Grahamon MTP saying our trained local forces in Iraq ‘folded like a cheap suit’ do not make me associate him with the masses, either. and now must get some things done.

After the body gets acclamated to the cold it can be enjoyable. A good heavy snowstorm really cleans the air and reminds one of how much we have f*#ked up our planet.

did Tweety even mention Ensign?

Every week, the talking heads are heralding their “exclusives” –it’s good for a laff.

She’s the only thing saving Gregory’s ass. Would that we had more of her caliber -on both sides of the debate.

Not that I heard, and I think not, but I didn’t watch every minute.

Yeah, I remember repeatedly digging my little green VW out of the snow in Denver every winter. No thanks.

That is why gawd invented garages but then you have to dig out driveways.

This strikes me as one of the worst Sunday lineups in memory. Is that just me?

I lived in a huge complex, Portofino Apartments in Aurora. No garages.

“the tire swing. Also.” lol!

I don’t remember them caring what Kerry thought after Bush won re-election. But I suppose he’s an easy “get” for a guest slot. I also sometimes think a large part of the problem is that the producers seek out the usual suspects because it’s easier than trying to find fresh talented voices. Easier to flip through the creaky old rolodex.

OH MY GOD

Liz Cheney thinks Obama going to Oslo to accept the Nobel Peace Prize is a farce and he should send the mother of a fallen soldier to accept it.
My head exploded.

You and Mike are making me feel cold. It’s 60 degrees and I’m in a sweatshirt and I’ve got socks on, which is rare. I know. I’m a baby.
Last weekend up in Santa Barbara, I had taken all long pants and long sleeves because of the forecast. It was so hot I had to go into town and buy and little sundress. Seriously.

The operant term there is “talented”.

William “The Bloody” Kristol :
he was up early waiting for the phone call, “Pundits for Peace”

Need a bucket and a mop?
Thanks for the heads up. I’ll avoid that later when it comes on here.

Morning Marion, it’s a treat to have breakfast for you :)

Enjoy your holiday with the Mister.

you postponed my Phillies with your mountain weather

STILL no comment on Barry at the HRC clambake?

You people really don’t care, do you.

In my house, Liz Cheney is on the same list as Limpbag, whose name I otherwise refuse to mention because I refuse to give him any more attention than he or his childish nonsense deserves.

George Will presumably is putting the finishing touches on an extended rant about Obama’s “narcissim”. The panelists will solemnly agree that the Novel will “hurt” Obama.

Carnac!? is that you?

I forgot to say Good Morning, Ms. Elliott. Must have been the chill got to my brain. Ha.

Go Dodgers.

Hmmm…
decisions, decisions

Hi, Bye

Postponed their requiem?

Scarecrow’s take:
Frank Rich: McCain Was Wrong On Everything. CNN Treats Him As Sage

I thought you’d “dress” them before the winter comes, you keeping the ladies on for eggs?

Three minutes that beat all the Sunday morning shout shows.

Mumia Abu Jamal, Between Acorns and Blackwater.

They heard about the election just having a hard time believing it. Watching a football game yesterday provided a valuable insight. When a play favoring the home tema is nullified by instant reply the home team fans, despite irrefutable video evidence, boo loudly, refusing to accept reality. The same reaction wingers and corporate media types have when confronted with reality.

Is Nexium also advertising on the reichwing sites – they’re the ones that need it.

as if there’s anything romantic about war; this is the underlying problem we have, the romanticizing of war. How to counter this?

eXactly! Good Morning to you.

and the “Ugly American” one, at that

Nope, you really DON’T care.

There was a site called ogrish.com that published pix taken by troops in Irak. The site has since been sold to LiveLeak.com. If the corporate media and sites such as HuffPo published these pix the “romantization of war” would be gone in a New York heartbeat.

This says it all, it’s his thrid deployment overseas.

and he’s a Reservist — I’ll never forgive Bush for the abuse of the Reserves, ever!

Deployment of the guard is even worse.

Aloha!

Unpossible to answer that

it’s par for the Beltway golf course.

she can’t possibly believe what comes out of her mouth.

Buenos dias, demi!

Ha! we’ll see…

Is Liz an example of Stockholm syndrome?

helped turn the tide of the Vietnam War, imo

YES!

Nah, she’s the spawn of double evil