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	<title>Comments on: Early Morning Swim: KO&#8217;s Marathon Special Comment on Health Care</title>
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		<title>By: Dearie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/08/early-morning-swim-kos-marathon-special-comment-on-health-care/#comment-1991923</link>
		<dc:creator>Dearie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I thought it was wonderful and powerful and heartfelt.  I wanted to facebook it but knew that half of my old/white/repuke friends would de-friend me….and I’d rather continue to try to educate them.  Would that there were more KO’s to speak truth to the greedsters and the followers.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought it was wonderful and powerful and heartfelt.  I wanted to facebook it but knew that half of my old/white/repuke friends would de-friend me….and I’d rather continue to try to educate them.  Would that there were more KO’s to speak truth to the greedsters and the followers.</p>
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		<title>By: Mommybrain</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/08/early-morning-swim-kos-marathon-special-comment-on-health-care/#comment-1991917</link>
		<dc:creator>Mommybrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Keith is a bit overwrought sometimes, but I thought this time, actually, he was pretty restrained.  I also thought it was moving and from the heart.  He distilled all the emotional arguments FOR reform into this one comment.  I have my own stories about the humiliation my ill father endured in the hospital, which was understaffed to say the least.   My poor father also fell out of bed, after being tied in by the overworked nurse who left him dangling upside down restrained by one leg for 4 hours.  And this was in a “good” hospital.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; I hope it is effective.  &lt;em&gt;We&lt;/em&gt; are certainly talking about it today.&lt;br /&gt;
I find that my more cynical (they would say realistic) friends and acquaintances thought it was too much and those who still have a few hopes and dreams left (they would say humanity) liked it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Call me a dreamer.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith is a bit overwrought sometimes, but I thought this time, actually, he was pretty restrained.  I also thought it was moving and from the heart.  He distilled all the emotional arguments FOR reform into this one comment.  I have my own stories about the humiliation my ill father endured in the hospital, which was understaffed to say the least.   My poor father also fell out of bed, after being tied in by the overworked nurse who left him dangling upside down restrained by one leg for 4 hours.  And this was in a “good” hospital.</p>
<p> I hope it is effective.  <em>We</em> are certainly talking about it today.<br />
I find that my more cynical (they would say realistic) friends and acquaintances thought it was too much and those who still have a few hopes and dreams left (they would say humanity) liked it.</p>
<p>Call me a dreamer.</p>
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		<title>By: Cujo359</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cujo359</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 17:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It was a bit overwrought in places, even given the subject matter, but it also made a great many important points. The most basic one is that this has been a debate in which our own fears about death have been the elephant in the room. Olbermann put that part in perspective. And, as he said, he wanted to shout, but there’s been plenty of shouting already. Restraint on this issue is very hard. It’s not too surprising given the stakes. I wish lots of people who aren’t on the progressive end of the political spectrum will watch it, but I fear that few will. It’s too bad.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a bit overwrought in places, even given the subject matter, but it also made a great many important points. The most basic one is that this has been a debate in which our own fears about death have been the elephant in the room. Olbermann put that part in perspective. And, as he said, he wanted to shout, but there’s been plenty of shouting already. Restraint on this issue is very hard. It’s not too surprising given the stakes. I wish lots of people who aren’t on the progressive end of the political spectrum will watch it, but I fear that few will. It’s too bad.</p>
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		<title>By: tejanarusa</title>
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		<dc:creator>tejanarusa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 16:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Did you see Peterr’s post last night on that very parable?  Lovely.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you see Peterr’s post last night on that very parable?  Lovely.</p>
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		<title>By: paz3</title>
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		<dc:creator>paz3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 16:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Have conservatives cowed some liberals into fearing their emotions, and thus supressing them? That is not healthy at all.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s a Question of Balance. Guess I’m into quoting rock song titles today…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Please BT, when someone makes such an eloquent case on our behalf, don’t frame their delivery in a way that gives the opposition an easy way to be dismissive. We’ve got enough framing battles as it is.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Isn’t that rather condescending? Whatever happened to acceptance? Some frame, others express…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have conservatives cowed some liberals into fearing their emotions, and thus supressing them? That is not healthy at all.</p>
<p>It’s a Question of Balance. Guess I’m into quoting rock song titles today…</p>
<blockquote><p>Please BT, when someone makes such an eloquent case on our behalf, don’t frame their delivery in a way that gives the opposition an easy way to be dismissive. We’ve got enough framing battles as it is.</p>
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<p>Isn’t that rather condescending? Whatever happened to acceptance? Some frame, others express…</p>
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		<title>By: paz3</title>
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		<dc:creator>paz3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 16:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;So you can get into heaven even if you behave like a shit to the underclass during your lifetime. I want to see the heaven-application.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Only if the stinkin’ luxury appointed camel you rode in one can manage to get through the eye of that looming needle…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Heaven app. begins with the question, “How well did you love your neighbor?” And if you have to ask, “Who is my neighbor,” you’ll be referred to the Parable of the Good Samaritan.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So you can get into heaven even if you behave like a shit to the underclass during your lifetime. I want to see the heaven-application.</p>
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<p>Only if the stinkin’ luxury appointed camel you rode in one can manage to get through the eye of that looming needle…</p>
<p>The Heaven app. begins with the question, “How well did you love your neighbor?” And if you have to ask, “Who is my neighbor,” you’ll be referred to the Parable of the Good Samaritan.</p>
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		<title>By: paz3</title>
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		<dc:creator>paz3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 15:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;p&gt;conservatives are only concerned about your soul&lt;br /&gt;
the living breathing part of you ain’t important&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;…which shows how lost they (conservatives) are, since the two inhabit each other and attempts to split them up (like dualisim) lead to depression and mental illness.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Frankly, we (my wife and I) loved Keith’s presentation, but then we don’t fear our emotional sides. We prefer to live life fully…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Both Sides Now…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>conservatives are only concerned about your soul<br />
the living breathing part of you ain’t important</p>
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<p>…which shows how lost they (conservatives) are, since the two inhabit each other and attempts to split them up (like dualisim) lead to depression and mental illness.</p>
<p>Frankly, we (my wife and I) loved Keith’s presentation, but then we don’t fear our emotional sides. We prefer to live life fully…</p>
<p>Both Sides Now…</p>
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		<title>By: hychka</title>
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		<dc:creator>hychka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 15:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I turned it off.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Although I love Keith’s show in general, when his mouth gets rolling on and on and on and on…I’d rather do something else.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I turned it off.</p>
<p>Although I love Keith’s show in general, when his mouth gets rolling on and on and on and on…I’d rather do something else.</p>
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		<title>By: Buford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;His analysis of how the US mortality rate compares to that of England in 1843 was powerful stuff. In 3 years, an uninsured non-smoker will have have same mortality rate as an insured ex-smoker… and in 13 years the US insured/uninsured will have the same discrepant mortality rates as the haves/have-nots of Dickensian England (uninsured will have 53% higher mortality than insured). In the mid-90’s, the discrepancy was only 25%.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In America, you have to have insurance to stay alive.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His analysis of how the US mortality rate compares to that of England in 1843 was powerful stuff. In 3 years, an uninsured non-smoker will have have same mortality rate as an insured ex-smoker… and in 13 years the US insured/uninsured will have the same discrepant mortality rates as the haves/have-nots of Dickensian England (uninsured will have 53% higher mortality than insured). In the mid-90’s, the discrepancy was only 25%.</p>
<p>In America, you have to have insurance to stay alive.</p>
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		<title>By: demi</title>
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		<dc:creator>demi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;PS, I just took some cinnamon rolls out of the oven.  Made with low fat bisquick, skim milk, cinnamon and splenda, so they are fairly healthy.  I’ll just leave them on the counter over here for any pups who would like one.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS, I just took some cinnamon rolls out of the oven.  Made with low fat bisquick, skim milk, cinnamon and splenda, so they are fairly healthy.  I’ll just leave them on the counter over here for any pups who would like one.</p>
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