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	<title>Comments on: Rockefeller, Brown, Boxer to Push Reid on Including Public Option in Senate Bill Today</title>
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		<title>By: Teddy Partridge</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/07/rockefeller-brown-boxer-to-push-reid-on-including-public-option-in-senate-bill-today/#comment-1991499</link>
		<dc:creator>Teddy Partridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 23:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“We tried, we tried so hard!” — content of liberal Senators’ fundraising letters from this day forward.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“We tried, we tried so hard!” — content of liberal Senators’ fundraising letters from this day forward.</p>
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		<title>By: Blub</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/07/rockefeller-brown-boxer-to-push-reid-on-including-public-option-in-senate-bill-today/#comment-1991464</link>
		<dc:creator>Blub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 22:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;evil pr*cks&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>evil pr*cks</p>
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		<title>By: beguiner</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/07/rockefeller-brown-boxer-to-push-reid-on-including-public-option-in-senate-bill-today/#comment-1991463</link>
		<dc:creator>beguiner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 22:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m hoping that this dance is real.  I’ll be looking for signs of Kabuki.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m hoping that this dance is real.  I’ll be looking for signs of Kabuki.</p>
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		<title>By: TalkingStick</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/07/rockefeller-brown-boxer-to-push-reid-on-including-public-option-in-senate-bill-today/#comment-1991461</link>
		<dc:creator>TalkingStick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 22:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The last minute change that undoubtedly helps the figures was re instituted at the request of the insurance companies, that being to firm up the mandate by  including a very high penalty/tax on those not purchasing the insurance companes’ offerings.  Also they are asking for a options to decrease coverage.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last minute change that undoubtedly helps the figures was re instituted at the request of the insurance companies, that being to firm up the mandate by  including a very high penalty/tax on those not purchasing the insurance companes’ offerings.  Also they are asking for a options to decrease coverage.</p>
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		<title>By: Blub</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/07/rockefeller-brown-boxer-to-push-reid-on-including-public-option-in-senate-bill-today/#comment-1991460</link>
		<dc:creator>Blub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;he.  well, he better hope they’re not too dazzling or his real constituents, the insurance companies, will start thinking they’re not gettin’ a good enough deal.. what’s a good corporate welfare bill that doesn’t actually cost the public some money?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he.  well, he better hope they’re not too dazzling or his real constituents, the insurance companies, will start thinking they’re not gettin’ a good enough deal.. what’s a good corporate welfare bill that doesn’t actually cost the public some money?</p>
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		<title>By: TalkingStick</title>
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		<dc:creator>TalkingStick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I hope I am wrong. But the figures just came out on Max the Insurance Man’s plan and they are dazzling.  Wanna bet they use this as a ceiling to shut out the better plans?  If some GOPers sign on RhamObama will wet their pants to keep them no matter what the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party wants.  Hate to be so cynical and pray I am wrong.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope I am wrong. But the figures just came out on Max the Insurance Man’s plan and they are dazzling.  Wanna bet they use this as a ceiling to shut out the better plans?  If some GOPers sign on RhamObama will wet their pants to keep them no matter what the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party wants.  Hate to be so cynical and pray I am wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: cbl2</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/07/rockefeller-brown-boxer-to-push-reid-on-including-public-option-in-senate-bill-today/#comment-1991455</link>
		<dc:creator>cbl2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;wonder if having &lt;a href=&quot;http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/10/07/145-congressional-dems-to-pelosi-leave-afl-cio-aloooone/#comment-51626&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;AFL-CIO Members are on the Hill today&lt;/a&gt; bolsters them&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wonder if having <a href="http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/10/07/145-congressional-dems-to-pelosi-leave-afl-cio-aloooone/#comment-51626" rel="nofollow">AFL-CIO Members are on the Hill today</a> bolsters them</p>
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		<title>By: Jo Fish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo Fish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So far this whole health care debate has revolved around BHO and the “Audacity of Nope”… No public option, no single-payer, no sticking much to his itinerary for change.  From Justice to Corporate ass-kissing it’s seems like it’s just  more of the same.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So far this whole health care debate has revolved around BHO and the “Audacity of Nope”… No public option, no single-payer, no sticking much to his itinerary for change.  From Justice to Corporate ass-kissing it’s seems like it’s just  more of the same.</p>
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		<title>By: cbl2</title>
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		<dc:creator>cbl2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;thanks very much for the heads up on this David.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks very much for the heads up on this David.</p>
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		<title>By: Blub</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;well… Garamendi was decent in that respect.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But I know what the issues are here. What I’m saying is that we need to articulate a position on the state issue - instead of parroting back what the conservadems say they want or are willing to offer, we need to say what is it we need: and that is price and reimbursement rate regulation as effective competitive to private sector insurers, on the one hand, and healthcare providers/pharmas on the other.  I don’t care what they call it as long as they give us that much - they can call it a state-based PO and have the insurance commissioners run-’em, with central regulation, they can call it a national PO,  it doesn’t matter.  That’s the minimum PO we need or a deal is meaningless.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well… Garamendi was decent in that respect.</p>
<p>But I know what the issues are here. What I’m saying is that we need to articulate a position on the state issue &#8211; instead of parroting back what the conservadems say they want or are willing to offer, we need to say what is it we need: and that is price and reimbursement rate regulation as effective competitive to private sector insurers, on the one hand, and healthcare providers/pharmas on the other.  I don’t care what they call it as long as they give us that much &#8211; they can call it a state-based PO and have the insurance commissioners run-’em, with central regulation, they can call it a national PO,  it doesn’t matter.  That’s the minimum PO we need or a deal is meaningless.</p>
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