Comments on: Save Us, Rachel http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/03/save-us-rachel/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 17 Feb 2012 04:13:25 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Kassandra http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/03/save-us-rachel/#comment-1989113 Kassandra Sat, 03 Oct 2009 23:46:07 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/03/save-us-rachael/#comment-1989113 <p>Yeah, I think I’ll put my $ on Grayson. But the song is great…nothing like the 60’s and 70’s protest music but it’s a start.</p> Yeah, I think I’ll put my $ on Grayson. But the song is great…nothing like the 60’s and 70’s protest music but it’s a start.

]]> By: Tuttle http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/03/save-us-rachel/#comment-1988974 Tuttle Sat, 03 Oct 2009 19:54:06 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/03/save-us-rachael/#comment-1988974 <p>I like, Kent Jones, too. btw, didn’t, Willie Giest, start out on, Tucker Carlson’s show with the same kind of gig?</p> I like, Kent Jones, too. btw, didn’t, Willie Giest, start out on, Tucker Carlson’s show with the same kind of gig?

]]> By: aview999 http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/03/save-us-rachel/#comment-1988971 aview999 Sat, 03 Oct 2009 19:16:21 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/03/save-us-rachael/#comment-1988971 <p>Excellent ideas! The Unions should definately join together - we need that now more than ever.</p> Excellent ideas! The Unions should definately join together – we need that now more than ever.

]]> By: Navigator http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/03/save-us-rachel/#comment-1988969 Navigator Sat, 03 Oct 2009 18:52:36 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/03/save-us-rachael/#comment-1988969 <p>I love Rachel and never miss her show. But I also love elected Representatives who aren’t afraid to speak up and speak out for Progressive viewpoints. We need so many more.</p> <p>This is Rep. Alan Grayson (D-FL) taking on Wolf and a gang of Republicans on The Situation Room on Oct. 1.</p> <p>Rep. Grayson is just the type of intelligent, blunt, outspoken, liberal Dem we need as Senate Majority Leader…at least IMHO.</p> <p>Rep. Grayson calls Republicans “knuckledragging neanderthals”. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTrDF0Gszck" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTrDF0Gszck</a></p> <p>And this is a little profane commentary on Grayson…and Republicans… from the The Rude Pundit.</p> <p>The Rude Pundit sums it up. <a href="http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2009/10/rep.html" rel="nofollow">http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2009/10/rep.html</a><br /> (Warning: possibly offensive language to some)</p> I love Rachel and never miss her show. But I also love elected Representatives who aren’t afraid to speak up and speak out for Progressive viewpoints. We need so many more.

This is Rep. Alan Grayson (D-FL) taking on Wolf and a gang of Republicans on The Situation Room on Oct. 1.

Rep. Grayson is just the type of intelligent, blunt, outspoken, liberal Dem we need as Senate Majority Leader…at least IMHO.

Rep. Grayson calls Republicans “knuckledragging neanderthals”. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTrDF0Gszck

And this is a little profane commentary on Grayson…and Republicans… from the The Rude Pundit.

The Rude Pundit sums it up. http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2009/10/rep.html
(Warning: possibly offensive language to some)

]]> By: marcos http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/03/save-us-rachel/#comment-1988966 marcos Sat, 03 Oct 2009 18:21:54 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/03/save-us-rachael/#comment-1988966 <p>All the power’s in the hands<br /> Of people rich enough to buy it</p> <p>While we walk the street<br /> Too chicken to even try it</p> <p>–The Clash, White Riot, 1977</p> <p>All of the time I see people trying to take political shortcuts, expecting some deus ex machina to resolve our inability to marshall effective political power commensurate with our level of support as complex blind alleys are resolved by magic in bad fiction. Grassroots organizing is what delivers the goods, what focuses popular support into an exercise of power and coerces progressive policies from the elites. This is a power game and we’re not playing for keeps. The other side clearly is.</p> <p>We need mass mobilization to confront the noise machine, and the only entities big enough to do that are the unions. ANSWER is stalinist toast. But the unions are too busy fighting one another. The SEIU and AFL-CIO need to declare a truce right now and use their muscle to put hundreds of thousands of people into the streets demanding Medicare for all, to organize the unemployed. Labor thinks that it can do the movement building during election years and work on organizing workers on the off years, but at this point, we need all hands on deck or we’re toast.</p> <p>We also need a rapid response media strike force so that the next times they come at one of us, like Van Jones, we have some toolkit that can challenge that framing. The other side’s main weapon is what I call a clusterfuck bomb. They send out shards of fear, hoping that at least one of those wedge issues causes any one to question progressive initiatives. We cannot respond to that with intellectual argument because that will have us playing defense all over the court, rather we have to fashion up a toolkit that hits people viscerally where it hurts corporations. </p> <p>One political approach to that is to bridge the left/right gap with some good old fashioned anti-corporate populism. This should be much easier once the wheels really begin to come off of the economy next year.</p> All the power’s in the hands
Of people rich enough to buy it

While we walk the street
Too chicken to even try it

–The Clash, White Riot, 1977

All of the time I see people trying to take political shortcuts, expecting some deus ex machina to resolve our inability to marshall effective political power commensurate with our level of support as complex blind alleys are resolved by magic in bad fiction. Grassroots organizing is what delivers the goods, what focuses popular support into an exercise of power and coerces progressive policies from the elites. This is a power game and we’re not playing for keeps. The other side clearly is.

We need mass mobilization to confront the noise machine, and the only entities big enough to do that are the unions. ANSWER is stalinist toast. But the unions are too busy fighting one another. The SEIU and AFL-CIO need to declare a truce right now and use their muscle to put hundreds of thousands of people into the streets demanding Medicare for all, to organize the unemployed. Labor thinks that it can do the movement building during election years and work on organizing workers on the off years, but at this point, we need all hands on deck or we’re toast.

We also need a rapid response media strike force so that the next times they come at one of us, like Van Jones, we have some toolkit that can challenge that framing. The other side’s main weapon is what I call a clusterfuck bomb. They send out shards of fear, hoping that at least one of those wedge issues causes any one to question progressive initiatives. We cannot respond to that with intellectual argument because that will have us playing defense all over the court, rather we have to fashion up a toolkit that hits people viscerally where it hurts corporations.

One political approach to that is to bridge the left/right gap with some good old fashioned anti-corporate populism. This should be much easier once the wheels really begin to come off of the economy next year.

]]> By: msmolly http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/03/save-us-rachel/#comment-1988965 msmolly Sat, 03 Oct 2009 18:11:05 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/03/save-us-rachael/#comment-1988965 <p>You have asked this a couple of times on Jane’s threads…and I also would like an answer. Even “we don’t know” would be OK.</p> You have asked this a couple of times on Jane’s threads…and I also would like an answer. Even “we don’t know” would be OK.

]]> By: msmolly http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/03/save-us-rachel/#comment-1988964 msmolly Sat, 03 Oct 2009 18:09:40 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/03/save-us-rachael/#comment-1988964 <p>And I noticed that Richard Wolffe was back on KO this week. He must have done adequate penance.</p> And I noticed that Richard Wolffe was back on KO this week. He must have done adequate penance.

]]> By: msmolly http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/03/save-us-rachel/#comment-1988963 msmolly Sat, 03 Oct 2009 18:08:57 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/03/save-us-rachael/#comment-1988963 <p>I never heard Rachel’s radio show, but he is just inane. Sorta like a male Ana Marie Cox. JMHO of course. Others may feel differently. I often also turn off KO’s final segment when he winds up with some stupid comic. And yes, I *do* have a pretty good sense of humor. Just don’t care for those segments of the show.</p> I never heard Rachel’s radio show, but he is just inane. Sorta like a male Ana Marie Cox. JMHO of course. Others may feel differently. I often also turn off KO’s final segment when he winds up with some stupid comic. And yes, I *do* have a pretty good sense of humor. Just don’t care for those segments of the show.

]]> By: xargaw http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/03/save-us-rachel/#comment-1988961 xargaw Sat, 03 Oct 2009 17:59:06 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/03/save-us-rachael/#comment-1988961 <p>Rachel is terrific, not just because she is smart, but because it is apparent how hard she works by how well she is prepared. She knows her material (in depth) backwards and forwards and is not afraid to ask ANY question. She does it all with grace and not the obnoxious manner that has become so typical in the media. It is very sad that she is the exception in the media and not the norm. I remember the days of Daniel Shorr, and when Dan Rather and Sam Donaldson were real journalists in the 60s and 70s before big salaries and egos. Rachel is a journalist. The rest are media personalities. </p> <p>I agree about Gregory. He is beyond awful and has made MTP unwatchable, except for tomorrow when Rachel will be on.</p> Rachel is terrific, not just because she is smart, but because it is apparent how hard she works by how well she is prepared. She knows her material (in depth) backwards and forwards and is not afraid to ask ANY question. She does it all with grace and not the obnoxious manner that has become so typical in the media. It is very sad that she is the exception in the media and not the norm. I remember the days of Daniel Shorr, and when Dan Rather and Sam Donaldson were real journalists in the 60s and 70s before big salaries and egos. Rachel is a journalist. The rest are media personalities.

I agree about Gregory. He is beyond awful and has made MTP unwatchable, except for tomorrow when Rachel will be on.

]]> By: Twain http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/03/save-us-rachel/#comment-1988959 Twain Sat, 03 Oct 2009 17:57:14 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/03/save-us-rachael/#comment-1988959 <p>I would really like to know the answer to your question about the ad. Haven’t seen one thing about it here.</p> I would really like to know the answer to your question about the ad. Haven’t seen one thing about it here.

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