Crying well fake crying is meant to get an emotional response from people making choices based on emotion.
Its like the fake facts George Will uses to persuade logical thinkers who don’t know or won’t investigate the facts for themselves.
Being a Lizard brain some or even most of the time is not bad I think as I point out logical thinkers can be manipulated too.
But I’m reasonably smart I can dig up facts on an issue I could research both sides of an argument, I stopped doing that on global warming years ago because I became convinced that George Will was lying.

Emotional People how do we get them to use their gifts to detect GOP lies? The Lizard Brains well to be fair everyone under stress can retreat to the Lizard witness 9/11 fear getting Bush close enough to being elected to steal his second election.
The Emotional choice makers they do have better people skills they should notice lies better. Maybe not being in direct contact throws them off because they can’t see the body language?
Maybe if Beck and friends convince themselves that what they say is true they can give off fake sincerity vibes?
Like Ann Coulter using made up quotes in her books it does lend logical weight to whatever point she makes until you find out she was lying.
Thanj God for Al Franken.

I am thinking that one reason why Emotional choice makers who like Beck and friends don’t twig on him lying is because they say what some people want to hear. And as long as they do that Becks viewers don’t care to look to closely at his facts or if he is lying because its not important.
I am thinking for emotional choice makers its more important that Beck a member of their ingroup is attacking an out group.
I’m thinking that Anger is a drug and Beck and Friends are Drug Pushers

We think exposing Glen and friends as a liar will kill their appeal to emotional choice makers it won’t.
We think proving logically that what Glen and Friends say is wrong will kill their appeal to emotional choice makers it won’t.
We need to think like emotional choice makers we need to show that Glen does not really believe, (granted he might).
We need to show that Glen is betraying them using them using their support to back Big Corporations and cashing big checks from them as he knowingly sells out his supporters.
We need to discredit Beck and Friends in ways Emotional Voters care about.

Oh and lets not forget public humiliation not all emotional choice people belong to an ingroup, or are racists but if you listen to Beck and Friends you are more likely to be an emotional choice maker of an Authoritarian bent who looks at the world good and bad in and out groups.
You want to belong and be popular have power etc. Laughter shows confidence it shows we have the power.
And in a comedy contest WE WIN.

GOP *cough* humor involves hate, hurt, putting people down. It is not humor but if you belong to the same ingroup and share the same group mind well it will get laughs from you fellow clones.
I’ll leave defining Real Comedy to someone wiser than me:)

GOPers it must be remembered can change us at least temporally into emotional choice makers with fear hate etc we can all become less than animals they no this so they seek to infect us.
But the benefits of being an emotional choice maker they shun like getting along with people more. I think to attract the emotional choice makers we need to Identify and Promote things they find attractive.
Like the feeling of family (granted with all its squabbles) we have here talking at the Lake.

GOP humor. Now that’s funny but not in a ha ha way. When they were trying to impeach Clinton Reppubtards were like inbred kids telling their first “wee wee” joke. They were jerkin themselves so hard there was smoke in the room. I’ll bet David Vitter crapped in his diaper for the first time when it seemed OK to tell blowjob jokes 24/7 around Bible Thumping Imbeciles

I would think that Sarah Palin will race Glen to attack Letterman.

I’m sure Sarah and Trigg are already planning a press conference.

Every person has an inalienable right to an interesting life. But if you want me sitting on the pine bench listening to Pastor McCreedy, you’d better be in the front pew. With your hands where I can see them, eyes straight ahead. No scoping.

Yep but when they do it is a different story. To be a hard core 20%er you are an emotional choice, anger junkie with Authoritarian tendencies. You either are a leader or a follower.
Or a paid whore pretender Intellectual like George Will, David Brooks, Cokie Roberts the Devil gives those who bow to him the world in their lifetimes.
Fame, Fortune, Respect but through out history Yes men and paid Propagandaists have never been looked well on by history.

True I’m Sure Sarah is going to ay Dave hit on my Daughter. No wait Dave hit on her its after all all about Sarah.

Can’t sleep. So I will spread rumors. Beck has had a tragic life. He said his mother took her life which can be traumatic to a 15yr teenager. But….

But one of the defining moments in Beck’s early life in Washington — an event still shrouded in mystery — occurred in the waters of South Puget Sound three decades ago.

On May 15, 1979, boaters found the body of Beck’s 41-year-old divorcee mother, Mary, floating about two miles north of the Asarco smelter at Ruston.

A day later, the body of the man who reportedly had taken Beck’s mother fishing was found washed ashore near Vashon Island’s Tahlequah Ferry Dock. The man’s small boat also was found beached at Maury Island, with a small dog, personal items and an empty bottle of booze inside.

Now, news accounts from the time, interviews and official records obtained by The News Tribune largely describe the death of Mary Beck as an accident.

“It was determined that (Mary Beck) appeared to be a classic drowning victim,” a Tacoma police report on her death investigation states.

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Just for the heck of it, here are some ratings. They seem somewhat inconsistent.

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Altemeyer’s research suggested that high SDO scorers were competitive on a personal level (agreeing with items such as “Winning is more important than how you play the game”) and were also quite Machiavellian (manipulative and amoral) agreeing with items such as “There really is no such thing as ‘right and wrong’. It all boils down to what you can get away with.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S…..rientation

SDO Social Dominance Orientation The Leaders of any Authoritarian Group it would seem have a natural tendency to put themselves before the group in private at least. If they think they won’t get caught and given their ego’s they never do.
However since we know they will betray their flock/followers we must expose them for that and sell the message that yes they knew that what they were doing would hurt their followers personally.
An affair who cares but for example a GOP Congressman votes to kill the EPA budget and he has a chemical plant in his district?
We need micro trend stories of that Congressman’s voters getting sick with pictures along side the facts about the Congressman’s vote against the EPA budget, anything specific to the Chemical plant like campaign contributions and knowledge he knew what his vote meant.
To get emotional choice people we need to appeal locally and personally to them.
We need to get them away from the GOP by showing that their Social Dominance Orientation leaders will betray have betrayed and will betray them in the future if it helps them.

With a few exceptions.

It is to laugh.

Beck and Michelle Malkin came from the Seattle Area? Our Real Estate Market is Dooomed!

Mika Brezntisky is the new Cokie Roberts. Just like the new coke. Mika is sweeter but it is still the same old jive in a new package. And it is not good for you.

I probably should read a book.

Malkin is from an Olangapo City Boom Boom joint.

Poor Mika is just beside herself.

What appalling behavior, oh my!

Sweet? “SOME might say”!

“I don’t like it” who the fuck cares.

“I’m certainly going to be watching”

She’s pissed because Letterman dissed her hero Mrs Moose.

Mr. Beck,

As a fellow alcoholic who has been alcohol free for over 20 years, you are no model for sobriety. In fact I believe the disease of addiction still afflicts you. Your compulsive illogical rational on so many issues is a throwback to a bygone fuckhead mentality predicated on ignorance and fear. You Sir remind me of the dysfunctional alcoholic Joe the Red Scare McCarthy, who destroyed so many lives. Now all you tow is the corporate “bullshit.”

Mr Beck, you have no credibility at all. Go away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mika is complaining about Letterman’s abuse of power, affairs with co-workers. I am shocked! Rich guys get more chicks! Who could have guessed.

I know she wrote for a Seattle Paper I assumed she lived in the Filipino Neighborhood of Beacon Hill Seattle but I can’t find where she lived when she wrote for the paper.
I concede I might be wrong.

Mika is a concern troll.

I was kidding, ever been to Olongapo? Ask the Dragon about it.

I’ve been sober for 15 years and this asshole makes me want a belt!

Resist the temptation…. you’ll be better for it!! I go outside and bang my head against trees, to feel “ALIVE” when I can’t cope anymore rather than a 30 pack and a fifth of vodka, just to start!! lol!!!!!!!!!

The automatic assumtion that he abused his power to get laid is what is appalling. Pat the racist on that fucking show every day is what is appalling. Joe the Scar’s inability to appear with any regularity on his own show is appalling.

I thought the GOP hated sexual harassment suits and feminazi’s. Unless I hear something about keeping your job or raises contingent on sex sex its not a big deal.
Bosses sleep with employees all the time.

Too Life Raven, not stupidity, right!

Googled it Navy base is there I had friends in college in the Navy and Marines they had some stories…stories no Mod would allow the hint of a mention of:)

I have not had a drink (of alcohol) for over 40 days. But nothing good ever comes from drinking brown liquor. I can enjoy beer and wine in moderation.

Yup! Just going to Georgia football is enough to keep me sober. . .talk about morons!

Paths are many

Somewhere under a rock.

Morning all. Hey is O’Reilly describing the size of something in the picture above.

Is Beck a dry Drunk an SDO Social Dominance Orientation as I suspect or both I wonder if SDO might be a personalty type susceptible to substance abuse?
In defense of Alkies and Junkies let me state not all Alkies and Junkies are possible SDO’s like Glen.

Or under a bridge Trolls love Bridges and hate goats. One day I hope to get an attack goat!

Good morning, pups. It’s Bobo and Krugman today. Bobo will probably have to grovel in public soon. In “The Wizard of Beck” he says that there is no power behind the media curtain for talk jocks like Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck. They claim to represent a hidden majority but, in fact, represent a mere niche. Rush won’t like that… Prof. Krugman, in “Mission Not Accomplished,” says unless the government does much more than is currently planned to help the economy recover, the job market will remain terrible for years to come.

Here they are.

The coffee and tea are ready, and I’ve got banana pancakes this morning. I’m not really awake yet, so I’m going to shuffle off to the kitchen to get another cup of tea and try to become alert. (Or at least achieve a reasonably facsimile of alertness…) Have a great day.

He’s bragging about size to the girl he is currently asexually harassing.

It looks to me like he’s describing the results he got with one of those pills they keep advertising on my TeeBee…

That’s what it looked like.

As a european I cannot for the life of me understand why Americans get so wiggly about sex. In many parts of the world multiple husbands and wives are perfectly acceptable and in many cultures “mistresses” and “boy toys” are a way of life. I think maybe the Americans need a lot more sex so that they stop their snickering behind their hands and accept sex for what it is, shagging. It is sex people, not a bloody nuclear war.

Bobo reads the GOP script if he is attacking Beck well the Corporate Wing of the GOP and the Fake Populist, Funds, Teabagger wing are going to war its Official!
Now where can I get some popcorn this early?

Frank, Not preaching here but 40 days is a milestone. Keep up the good work and resist the temptation. You will be a better man for it!!! Too Life, not servitude to Jim Bean or the can man! No moderation for me! All or nothing deal for me dude. Good luck and fight the good fight for you and your family! The fight against addiction is a personal war, only you can fight and the victory will be sweet…….

“Needs that where instilled in me by corporate design, needs that where not real at all, just a conditioned mind, I’m not a conditioned mind, always ask why?”

Lines from a song I wrote years ago entitled: “Conditioned Minds”{

You are probably right maybe we would not start so many wars then. Still controlling making people feel guilty is a traditional means of controlling a population it worked for the Catholic Church for 2,000 years.
Europe was prudish in Victorian times on the surface at least why did you go one way and we another?
Still without sex as a sin America would not have its thriving Porn industry!

Lyrics from an anti corporate AA song ?

America is just in it’s infancy. When America grows up maybe it will not be so petulant and prudish… or maybe not.

It is not really a temptation for me. But a good friend of mine has indulged too much over the years. Now he has “Bad days” where he is incapacitated. And I am very angry at him.

Along comes New Hampshire and McCain wins! Republican voters have not heeded their masters in the media. Before long, South Carolina looms as the crucial point of the race. The contest is effectively between Romney and McCain. The talk jocks are now in spittle-flecked furor. Day after day, whole programs are dedicated to hurling abuse at McCain and everybody ever associated with him. The jocks are threatening to unleash their angry millions.

Yet the imaginary armies do not materialize. McCain wins the South Carolina primary and goes on to win the nomination. The talk jocks can’t even deliver the conservative voters who show up at Republican primaries. They can’t even deliver South Carolina!

I could have wrote this Marion just how Desperate to discredit Beck is Bobo? The man is exposing GOP trade secrets.

[adjusts tinfoil hat] I wonder if the word has come down from on high in the RNC that it’s time to slam the brakes on the Rush/Glenn juggernaut, hoping to repair some of the damage before the 2010 elections…

(on edit) After all, RushGlenn,Inc. have done their job thus far — they’ve pretty much doomed any real health care reform and have poisoned any reality-based discussion of climate change legislation.

Yes, but I never attended many AA meetings. I’m a loner and believe in rational recovery vs turning to a god or higher power. It is the recognition that corporations prey on people for profit all the time, and that servitude to a King God or can of beer is not for me. Liberation from corpo-scum who seek to profit from my afflictions, just like health insurers practicing discrimination at the state level, to make profit. Same fucking thing GROSS!

Did anyone watch Rachel last night? She did a segment on Newt and his recognition of businesses. It’s a freeking scam. They notify a business that they’ll be honored at a small dinner then when the business accepts, they’re told that they have to be members first, for a $5000 fee.

They are enabled by cynical Democrats, who love to claim that Rush Limbaugh controls the G.O.P.

http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/

Bobo Facts contra Evidence In a world where High Important GOP party leaders are saying sorry everytime they disagree with Rush then yes the GOP is controlled by Rush.
I expect you to say sorry yourself inside a week.

Is Mika jealous that Dave would not spend five minutes with her? I would not either. Not that she cares.

I don’t think this is tin foil hat stuff:)

Secular Anti Corporate AA for loners sounds like a book:)

Not that she cares.

She needs attention…but only from her ingroup.

So how many members/suckers has Newt taken? Can we get a list we can boycott them!

Mika wants to investigate Dave. She is jealous!

Yes, $5,000, for a signed award and a gavel?? Disgusting quid pro quo. It shows how corrupt the bastards are!! Guess the former speaker of the house did not want to be seen with a women who owned a strip club.

Scumbags by definition?

As if Mika hasn’t used her sexuality to get to where she is.

That’s what makes her so concerned.

They pay more attention to Rush’s imaginary millions than to the real voters down the street. The Republican Party is unpopular because it’s more interested in pleasing Rush’s ghosts than actual people. The party is leaderless right now because nobody has the guts to step outside the rigid parameters enforced by the radio jocks and create a new party identity. The party is losing because it has adopted a radio entertainer’s niche-building strategy, while abandoning the politician’s coalition-building strategy.

The rise of Beck, Hannity, Bill O’Reilly and the rest has correlated almost perfectly with the decline of the G.O.P. But it’s not because the talk jocks have real power. It’s because they have illusory power, because Republicans hear the media mythology and fall for it every time.

http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/

I think Bobo is copying my rants! Puddle sniffing Pumpkin swiller!

Brain Bleach warning next time!

If Puddle sniffing Pumpkin swiller! starts to be the New Common man phrase of the GOP and Bobo…then the Fools are tryin to steal my style!

Are you implying she wears those tight v-neck blue sweaters for a reason besides warmth?

I’m sure her producers are shocked, SHOCKED!

Mika’s aware that Joe had a young intern who died in his office from a blow to the head, right?

Oh that’s right the NBC vs. CBS stuff makes all that incidental.

Mika’s secret lover Richard Haas is going to be on. Haas is the rotten head of neo-con Council of Fascist Relations. Hey jerks, Death To The New World Order!

Mika’s aware that Joe had a young intern who died in his office from a blow to the head, right?

Good point that thought deserves its own post. Mika should be afraid about all the unanswered questions surrounding that.

The conventional wisdom is that trying to help the economy now produces short-term gain at the expense of long-term pain. But as I’ve just pointed out, from the point of view of the nation as a whole that’s not at all how it works. The slump is doing long-term damage to our economy and society, and mitigating that slump will lead to a better future.

What is true is that spending more on recovery and reconstruction would worsen the government’s own fiscal position. But even there, conventional wisdom greatly overstates the case. The true fiscal costs of supporting the economy are surprisingly small.

You see, spending money now means a stronger economy, both in the short run and in the long run. And a stronger economy means more revenues, which offset a large fraction of the upfront cost. Back-of-the-envelope calculations suggest that the offset falls short of 100 percent, so that fiscal stimulus isn’t a complete free lunch. But it costs far less than you’d think from listening to what passes for informed discussion.

Look, I know more stimulus is a hard sell politically. But it’s urgently needed. The question shouldn’t be whether we can afford to do more to promote recovery. It should be whether we can afford not to. And the answer is no.

Krugman gets it!

he Republican Party is unpopular because it’s more interested in pleasing Rush’s ghosts than actual people. The party is leaderless right now because nobody has the guts to step outside the rigid parameters enforced by the radio jocks and create a new party identity. The party is losing because it has adopted a radio entertainer’s niche-building strategy, while abandoning the politician’s coalition-building strategy.

As much as Brooks makes me want to retch, he’s absolutely right about this. It was inevitable that smart Republicans (yes, there are a few smart ones out there) would wake up and see that the path they have chosen will only lead them oblivion. Is it too late? Will they able to destroy their Frankenstein? Time will tell.

Will Bobo be forced to grovel, or is that only for members of Congress who criticize Rush?

And how will they change? Can they even beat the fundies?

Wait, this Letterman thing is real? It wasn’t a bit for his show?

Jesus, who cares? Could the idiot twins on Morning Joke be any more worthless?

There are dust bunnies under my bed that contribute more to American society than those two nitwits…

I doubt it. I think they’re done.

There are dust bunnies under my bed that contribute more to American society than those two nitwits…

That is a very good bit of writing :)

We’re on the same page.

And, of course, the comatose MSM will dutifully ignore Jon Ensign’s illegal conduct in HIS extramarital affair . . . where he violated laws governing the hiring of ex-aides as lobbyists — and hired his then-mistress’s husband(!) as one.

weepublicans having affairs (gay or otherwise) is so commonplace now that it barely registers a yawn from the fourth estate . . . but, a high-profile liberal entertainer like Letterman will be news fodder for the next week, as long as the MSM takes its cues from the reichwing media wh. ores. over at The Joseph Goebbels Memorial Propaganda Factory — which they inevitably do b/c they’re a bunch of lazyasssacksofshit themselves.

Here’s my take on Dave & Mika:

http://whitenoiseinsanity.com/…..rzezinski/

Poor Mika. She wants Dave’s head to roll but she was fine with David Vitter, John Ensign, and all the Pigs at C-Street running a Christian brothel!

she was fine with David Vitter, John Ensign, and all the Pigs at C-Street running a Christian brothel!

It’s only OTHER people’s chickens who are supposed to come home and roost. It’s ALWAYS OKIYAR.

Read your piece Kay left a comment.

Mika claims she is a Liberal now that is funny! Conservative humor real Conservative humor is that they are the joke and they don’t realize it.

Which GOPer is now molesting Chickens ?:)

I agree America’s fascination with sex and extra marital affairs is rather infantile. But, you are missing two key points. For Letterman, sleeping with women who work for him suggests that coercion may be involved. How do you say no to the boss? For the republican creeps, the issue is one of hypocrisy. All claim they believe in family values–which means monogamy. The long list of elected republican womanizers were ardent supporters of Clinton’s impeachment on the basis that he was an adulterer. Granted the right spent years looking for a hook and Clinton gave it to them, nonetheless, the republican hysteria destroyed Clinton’s presidency. Actually, not the worst thing to happen since he talked about privatizing social security.

Clinton was impeached for his blow job. These assholes are still in office and, so far, have not faced any consequences for their long term affairs. That is what is so maddening.

What can not be dismissed is whether coercion was involved in Letterman’s dalliances with staff members. That is a very big issue and what distinguishes his actions from the republican adulterers. I find that very disturbing. It is also disappointing as Letterman was willing to take on republican assholes.

ahem. This is exactly what Lindsay Graham did.

Mika had to admit earlier in the show today THAT SHE HAD AN AFFAIR IN THE WORKPLACE (sex and everything) AND THEN MARRIED THE GUY! She said that what Dave did is wrong because he’s in a powerful position. UMMMMMMMM, WHAT ABOUT YOU MIKA? Were you in a powerful position in the workplace when you decided to drop your draws to the floor to have sex with him? Or maybe your workplace boyfriend you ended up marrying was in a powerful position? Were you raped or forced to have this relationship against your will?

SOMEONE NEEDS TO INVESTIGATE MIKA’S WORKPLACE AFFAIRS!

I bet she’s had more than one from what I can tell this morning. She has a lot to hide.

Mika is fine with diaper wearing republicans cheating on their wives with prostitutes however! She’s not called for Vitter’s resignation because most likely she went home to her workplace-boyfriend-turned-husband and did the astronaut diaper dance!

Glen Beck and the GOP are jealous again. They don’t get any….? Not surprising.

“We need to discredit Beck and Friends in ways Emotional Voters care about.”

falafel.

The point (hypocrisy/irony) is valid either way, and I didn’t see Letterman’s show, but has it even been established that these affairs were extramarital? They have a six year-old son together but I think they’ve only been married a few years perhaps the affairs were pre-Harry/marriage.

Most people don’t know crazy Glenn Becks history. I didn’t till I read about him on wiki.

Beck’s parents were divorced in 1977 and the 13 year-old Beck moved with his mother to Sumner, Washington, attending school in Puyallup. In 1979, his mother died in a boating accident in Puget Sound waters, just west of Tacoma. The man who had taken her fishing also drowned in the boating incident. A Tacoma police report filed after the drowning stated that Mary Beck “appeared to be a classic drowning victim”.[8] A Coast Guard investigator, referencing Mary’s heart and psychiatric conditions, speculated she could have either fallen or jumped overboard.[6] Beck was living with his mother at the time of her death.[6]

After his mother’s death, Beck and his older sister moved to their father’s home in Bellingham, where Beck graduated from Sehome High School in 1982.[6] In the aftermath of his mother’s death and subsequent suicide of his stepbrother, Beck has said he used “Dr. Jack Daniel’s” to cope.[9] When he was 18 years-old, Beck moved from Washington state to Salt Lake City, Utah, following graduation from high-school. It was while sharing an apartment in Salt Lake with a former Mormon missionary that Beck was first exposed to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.[citation needed]

Beck then moved to Baltimore, Maryland, to work at the city’s leading Top 40 station, WBSB, known as B104. There he partnered with Pat Gray, a 27-year-old morning DJ. During his tenure at B104, Beck was arrested for speeding in his DeLorean with one of the car’s gull-wing doors wide open.[32] According to a former colleague, Beck was “completely out of it” when a B104 manager went down to the station to bail him out.[32]

The couple divorced in 1994 amid Beck’s struggles with substance abuse. Along with being a recovering alcoholic and drug addict[11], Beck has been diagnosed with Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder.[12] He cites the help of Alcoholics Anonymous in his sobriety and attended his first AA meeting in November 1994, the month he states he stopped drinking alcohol and smoking marijuana.[13]

In 1996, while working for a New Haven-area radio station, Beck was admitted to Yale University through a special program for non-traditional students. One of his recommendations for admittance came from Senator Joe Lieberman. Beck took one theology class, “Early Christology,” and then dropped out.[13][14]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Beck